How to use CARDO to Record your Voice with Insta360
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- čas přidán 5. 09. 2024
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THANK YOU, so many motovloggers have been doing reviews for this camera and all of them did not even talk about the feature let alone test it out, and some of these videos came out after the December firmware update. Props to Insta360 for sponsoring this its one of the features that makes me want to get a new camera
It's refreshing to see you are open with your sponsorships and kick-backs. I was previously very complimentary about your videos. I was critical of just one of your videos. I think it was one where you got an early release which does compromise one slightly. Anyway, I digress, as always a great video, helpful, thank you.
Man I hope they bring this to the X3
Kinda feel like they will bring it to the x4 along with few other software features to make it seem like a good upgrade for x3 users 😅
they already have this on the x3, I do this and connect it with a cheap Bluetooth intercom on my helmet. I would say it works a little better than the cardo as it picks up some of the bike noise too whenever im not talking.
@@RUIZBRIANhow do you do it? I wanna try!!
same way mate@@AbydeProductions
Brother how? @RUIZBRIAN
So its only the Packtalk edge and NOT the packtalk Neo as well? Seems very strange since the two are very similar in hardware.....
Been waiting for this quite a while. It's surprising that there's no dedicated product to capture good quality audio while riding (incl. group rides). Best that works for me is the SENA 50c, but the video is so bad, it's basically only usable as a reference to sync it's audio with other cameras.
It would have been cool if the bluetooth sync would work with other insta360 cams too. Even if the quality isn't the best, it would make synchronising audio of a DJI mic a lot easier, and I would love to use it with their 360 cams to have the re-framing options.
I just tried to pair the following (which didn't work (as expected)):
SENA 50s to Insta OneRS
SENA 50c to Insta OneRS
Here's my 2 cents on best audio solutions:
- DJI for solo rides
- 2x DJI for 2 people rides
- SENA 50c for group rides
We have this set up and it's been quite frustrating to pair the Cardo Freecom and keep our intercom connection. It upsets the intercom (Hey Cardo, radio off - if you know, you know!) and I can confirm that it only records one dialogue. It's nearly there but not quite so we will be sticking to DJI for now too.
so you also suffer the radio coming on randomly? How about it also randomly phoning the last number dialed?
So the freecom voice recoding does work? I haven't been able to find anyone document it anywhere until looking through these comments. I've got the Freecom 4+ which is BT 4.1
I'm not worried about the connection to other riders still working or recording anyone other than myself.
What version do you have?
Thanks!
@@dervisher5420 i just got it to work on my freecom 4x with alot of fiddling, lmk if you need some assistance:)
@@TheRiderGuideryou can disable the radio in the Cardo app which was the only way I could get the radio to stop coming on randomly.
someone probably mentioned this already, but you can now record your Cardo audio, including multiple riders, directly through the Cardo App on your phone.
Way too much noise reduction in the cardo for sure. Us motorcyclists know that there is always some wind when riding fast and for me it makes it more immersive to have some wind and pipes rather than just voice
You're not a clogger then
Does x4, record both your Cardo input and its own Mic input? Aka do you have 2 audio tracks at the end of recording session?
Thank you for making this video! a hot topic for me, and such a pain point, I use the purple panda with my gopro 8 but it is hit and mis as far as actually capturing the correct audio, some times it the media mod mic (not good) and most the time its the external mic that is extremely good, but not knowing whats going to happen or if it will change mid roll is just killing me...
this feature would not help but defiantly good to know. I switch to the new DJI camera but it had some serious issues, probably a fluke but not sure Im willing to risk getting another one.... we just need a good reliable instant on camera with external mic. thanks again
The problem is when you activate mesh it is not working. At least for the Sena system. Great video !
I use the dji OA4 + dji mic 2 connected with Bluetooth. No cable, perfect quality 👍
Great video are you able go in depth with how u connected the dji mic to your cardo
Just tested it on mine, at home, not on the bike, works great, audio for me is very clear and usable, however it may cut out a lot of engine noise that some folks like hearing during a vlog, I'll be trying the passenger/other rider audio soon as I can, I don't think there will be a problem there 🤞, thank you for doing the video, makes life a whole lot easier, things being okay on an actual test ride, cheers 👍
Let us know if you have already tried it out! Cheers!
Try turn off noise cancelation🤔.
@TherD0001 too much background noise cut out so didn't bother trying with other rider audio. In my case I also got device unconnected alerts every minute or so, decided to stick with the setup I have, wired mic and ace pro mic adapter & female TRRS to male TRS, it works great for me with minimal fuss, don't get me wrong it would probably work if I stuck with it, however I'm already setup the other way, why fix what ain't broken as they say 👍
@@mototripperuk Ok. My solution at the moment is to use the Fodsport m1-S Plus intercom phone with X3. The connection works without problems with the X3, but the Intercom connection is not possible at the same time to the camera, because then the sound is not transmitted to the camera at all.
So it works with the camera only as a microphone. I don't keep the camera in the helmet so wired connections are difficult.
@durango008 thanks for the information mate, but I'm happy with my setup as it is at the moment, I may go back & try it again at some point 👍
The sound quality of the Cardo is amazing. If you also want to record just the engine and external sounds, perhaps it's better to place a recorder in your bag and then mix everything in post-production. Do you have a video demonstrating how you edit your videos? Thanks.
I feel like I prefer hearing the wind noise and exhaust, the Cardo eliminates basically all of the background noise. Still a nice option to have if it's a really windy day.
Is it possible to star the voice recording with a voice commmand? Bcos I couldn't find that command on the Cardo PT Edge. Nice tut, thanks!
What helmet is that, carbon with the leather trim/insides?
Do you actually know if’s possible to do that but with the DJI action 4?
Greetings ✌️
You read my mind…
Well, when i get the chance definetly will pick up the ace pro, but the insta360 x3 gets this update to do it also, that would be freaking awesome.
As you are close to Insta, I love my Insta360 x3 but will wait for the next version with 4K or 6K, 10-bit. You can't beat the ability to edit in 360; it's fantastic when combined with Insta Studio. I accept the AcePro is good for quality and nighttime but the flexibility of editing in 360 blows the competition away. Once you go there, it's hard to switch back to basic one-dimensional Action Cameras. Just my humble opinion. I spent 5 weeks in Europe last year with it, and it was awesome. I have booked to ride solo from the UK to Cappadocia, Turkey and back. I am hoping they release an upgraded version of the Insta360, a Pro version, pretty please :-), and happy to pay. The last wish is to be able to use Wireless Mic and easy sync to other Insta cameras like the Ace Pro. Lol, I accept I am optimistic.
My cardo connects to my BMW, and if the Dual Bluetooth Channels don't work reliably then its not going to be much use. Hopefully this gets fixed/refined in due course.
I connected my Cardo Edge device to the first-ever version of the Insta360 camera, but was unable to link my phone. I assumed this was due to the camera's older technology. Regarding the two Bluetooth channels, it seems I might need to forego my passenger's connection, assuming Insta360 makes further improvements to connect camera and phone as well.
Ideally, both companies should collaborate to enable the recording of multiple cameras with phone and not only my own voice but also phone calls and conversations over mesh. Additionally, integrating an extra BT magnatic microphone which I can place anywhere for capturing exhaust notes, all operating seamlessly together with access control for each Cardo user to prevent unwanted recording, and phone call announcements to ensure legal compliance, would be fantatic.
Cardo's split channel BT sux. It doesnt work with both channels in use at the same time. Took me forever to get my system hooked up to my s1krr because the cardo wouldnt work when paired to my bike and my phone. I had to pair the cardo and my phone to the bike but not together to get the audio to work. I imagine the same is going on with the insta360, cardi, phone situation.
Hey! Excited to see a video on the mosko bags on the Scrambler. How does it fit over the pipes??
Can you do this with the freedom x4 ??
Thanks for this video. Question: I'm moving from a Go Pro to the Ace Pro. I have the Cardo Pack Talk Edge. A ZumoXT navigation. And my iPhone. When the two devices are synced to the Cardo, the navi seems to bump the phone offline. Then the phone re-connects. When navi gives an instruction, I'll hear "phone re-connected" so I assume it blips out. If I go Ace Pro to the Cardo and I also have the navi unit, will it bump out the Ace Pro so nothing is getting recorded?
Will camera record audio from Cardo intercom? Or just the solo? Oh near the end. Does anyone else know?
Thanks mate. Thanks. Your new place is awesome. Thanks for the cardo ace pro connectivity news.
i wish it would still pick up some of the motorcycles sound it would be so perfect then but i understand why it does not. Also are those the icon pursuit gloves? How do you like them in summer months?
Can I connect the x3 to my packtalk?
wow i was literally thinking about how to do this on a ride the other day! thanks for this
You can also connect kardo to the insta360 x4 camera and it also works
It's interesting you note the Cardo has two bluetooth channels. I currently have my phone and my Garmin ZumoXT paired and whenever a navigation instruction comes up, it disconnects the phone. Then I hear "phone connected" after the instruction is over. Is there a way to avoid that? If I try to pair the Ace Pro, will that bump one of the other devices? Thank you.
This needs to come to x3/x2... the camera needs it the most being generally on the handle bar or elsewhere
I was just wondering yesterday how the sound would be using the cardo recording to my phone. That way I could capture group conversations and use it for windfree voice. My gopro + lav mic will capture perfect wind, pipes, voice sometimes and then other times be way too much wind without me changing anything. And I don't want to add a 3rd mic to my helmet
The answer to the important question I can't seem to find anywhere is will it let me record group chat audio and save it directly to the camera?
i use the purple panda with my go pro .. I dont have those audio issues unless im doing like 90 plus
lol, when are you ever doing less than 90mph... 😉
thats pretty cool rob all this new tech is changing the game in really good and helpful ways luv it cheers
I just got the X4 and it doesnt work for me - soon as I connect to the Insta, it disconnects my phone
Would you do a video comparing some beginner setups?
Wouldn't it be great if you could connect the cardo packtalk edge and Dji mic 2 with the insta360 x3 camera. Get some nice stero sound.
I know the cardo can connect to 2x Bluetooth devices, but i dont know if the dji mic and insta360 does...
czcams.com/video/YcXjF_bgJxY/video.htmlsi=5B58NGsO2sJRc48X
ive connected but i cant hear any voice. Unsure what's going on.
Nice video mate. Waiting for video about how to choose camping location
Thanks for the video. Will the camera work the same way with Cardo Palktalk slim ? And is this only insta360 or DJI Action as well? Thank you
Anyone know if you can you connect Cardo to Dji cams?
Myself and some folks in my comments have tried connecting Ace Pro to Cardo AND phone, simultaneously, and it does not work for us either… static and cutting in and out
I bought both the Ace Pro, and the Cardo Edge because I want to connect both my phone for music, and the Ace Pro to record the music I'm listening to on the ride. I should have watched this video first; I was so disappointed when I couldn't get them both to pair directly. The Cardo does have two BT channels to connect a second BT headset that another biker might be using that is not compatible with Cardo, and you're supposed to be able to stream the music you're listening to over to the other rider. I figured that this would work, I was able to pair my phone directly to the Cardo, then pair the Ace Pro as a second rider, but when I played music from my phone it stuttered really bad. I could play FM radio with no issues though. I forgot to test if the camera recorded the radio as well at the time. I am hoping that a firmware update will allow this to work. For me listening to music while riding is a huge deal, and I'd love to watch my videos back and listen to the same music I was listening to at the time. I have tried positioning the Ace Pro mic at various spots in my helmet to try and pick up the music, but my Shoei helmet is so tight around the ears and the speakers of the Cardo that it just can't pick it up unless I place the mic right next to one of the speakers but then it gets way over distorted because of the Cardo volume.
The Cardo Packtalk Edge (and previous Packtalk generations) doesn't have bluetooth resources and simultaneous capacity to serve both a BT camera/ recorder in recording and a BT audio playback device in active playback at the same time. Stuttering will occur in the playback audio as well as in the recording session as the bluetooth circuitry then will be multiplexing the audio streams. Your described experience is as by current hardware design, no firmware update will change this. In order to accommodate the functionality you describe as desired, some additional (hardwired) equipment and maybe even some post production with video/ audio editing is required as well. The Cardo connection matrix as described in the Cardo Packtalk Edge user documentation applies. 🙂
@@bjornonwheels thanks so much for the explanation. It makes a lot of sense to me now. No worries, I’ve given up on trying to record the music now and have moved my focus on becoming a moto-blogger. I hope to have my channel up and running this summer.
I was just looking to pick up a Cardo Spirit this week. after this video, maybe I should look at the edge instead. thanks for the great info.
Should get the pro
@@iamziim I ended up with the Sprint HD. It's very similar to my freecom, but the buttons Do different things.
Hi, I've paired my Cardo Slim and Ace Pro and commited small video. In the video everything mutes completely while I'm not speaking, which is very confusing when watching. It can also cut beginning of the words. I cannot find which setting in Insta360 or Cardo causes this issue. Could someone help?
I did this to the T and I can't hear anything after the recording.
Should I record with dewarp or action view or the other while it's on the helmet?
How many seconds to automatically connected to each other (cardo+acepro)?
What is the Purple Panda mic connected to in the test? The camera?
May I ask what’s your helmet&visor brand? Thanks
What helmet and googles brand is this . Its cool
Nice house, mate! Thank you for your work :)
Love this, wow!! If I have the Cardo blue toothed to my Garmin XT & my phone, any idea if I can go to the ace pro as well??
The Instas can use Garmin units the same as if you had the GPS remote. Saw video Insta has out on this, recently
Do you connect both insta360 & phone togethere?
Interesting. I have been trying to get my DJI microphone 2 to talk directly to X3. Which it does. But when I get over about 30km/h the microphone is overloaded with wind noise, that is with the windsock in place. Shoei neotec 2 helmet. Any suggestions ?
Tried clicking the link but all it offers is a free screen protector. No battery.
great video, I need to test this out!
hope they will do a firmware update so we can use it on the X4
It function in grouping cardo?
I have tried the pack talk bold and it also works but only when you talk and it doesn’t record other riders conversation. It’s good for VLOGing but doesn’t provide any sound other than your voice.
DJI mic 2 will connect on Bluetooth with older firmware (0.21)but with .035 it connects with no sound. .041 came out the other day, hope they fixed the issue. Problem with the MIC 2 is no matter how low you turn the gain down on the camera it peaks and you just hear clicking noises.
I also have packtalk bold . How is the audio quality?
That's all well and good, but... when are you going to give us a tour of your new house and the new area you've moved to? I'm really looking forward to that mate 😅🤜🏼🤛🏼
So I am super pissed. I just picked up the insta 360X4 and the Cardo Packtalk EDGE and when connect them I get no sound recorded threw the mic and voice commands do not work. It's like the camera is not registering the mic. I'm really getting kind of pissed.
Figured it out. Had to go into Cardo app, go to Settings-Audio Settings-Advanced Audio Settings-turn off Intelligent Noise Block. This fixed it.
Great video mate! How are you mounting the DJI mic inside the helmet?
If you have the Mic 2, you can pair wirelessly with the Cardo. Just drop the DJI in a tank bag, pocket, etc.
I have the cardo packtalk neo, will it work? or only with edge
Does the dji mic work with the ace through Bluetooth or does it need the usbc adaptor? Once they make a wireless lav mic that pairs and works directly with action cameras, it will change the game. Retain waterproofing, no wires, no adaptors, can't wait for this day
In this video he says it was recording internally I think, not to the camera.
How much of a delay is there between powering on the Ace Pro and the Cardo syncing to it if you don't touch anything? The Osmo Action 4 and the mic apparently takes about 30 seconds (!) to sync if you use the quick capture function (so not really quick...) so wondering how this compares?
can this be done with the X3?
I love the idea of the cardo low speed with no ear plugs is fine but out on the road with some ear plugs in I can't hear shit from anyone in our group.
Cardo need better speakers an be able to crank up real loud.
What I a frustration I have the Senna's, just bought them. I would have bought this for that benefit, actually one caveat, can it pick up group conversations of your other riders? LOL, just watched the end of the video. 🤣
Group audio can be recorded via bluetooth on the Packtalk Edge, but with poor and intermittent audio as result. Se my comment elsewhere below this video for description. 🙂
@@bjornonwheels nice one and thank you for the reply.
Not working for me..360rs + cardo slim...
Does it allow you to listen to music while using the mic yet?
No, not really when connection is made by bluetooth. Simultaneous connection and use will give stuttering audio. There isn't enough physical resources and simultaneous capacity in the Packtalk Edge (and earlier Packtalk generations) to do this. 🙂
@@bjornonwheels Ah dang that's kind of disappointing
The most important information is still missing. Hopefully you can find another device.
Does bluetooth work for the camera at the same time when the Intercom connection is connected (DMC or Bluetooth). Or does the intercom block the connection of the voice to the camera completely?
(In the Bold model, the priority can be changed in the app, I don't know if that has any effect here. Bold has no effect)
Hearing other people's speech is not so important, but the microphone of your own device should always work so that the sound is transmitted to the camera.
It would be enough if you could keep the intercom on and have conversations with others if necessary, and your own voice would go on the camera at the same time.
It would be great to be able to record the conversation, but if even the sound of your own mic was going to the camera, the Edge would also work as an intercom system with the camera, and not just as a microphone when you can't connect other devices at the same time.
Good and informative video by the way!!
If the bluetooth enabled camera/ recorder is connected to a Cardo Packtalk Edge as a bluetooth headset companion ("Rider A"/ "Rider B") and then bridged in to Packtalk DMC mesh, the BT camera/ recorder will participate in the DMC group as a bluetooth headset member. DMC intercom will work as expected without blockage or interruption. In addition, TFT/ GPS/ Phone 2 connection is available for other use. The Cardo connection matrix as described in their user documentation for the Packtalk Edge applies. See my comments elsewhere below this video. 🙂
@@bjornonwheels Thanks!! In other words, the functions seem to be the same as in my current Bold model.
Pactalk Bold refuses to find almost any devices in Non-DMC intercom pairing. I have managed to connect one device.
Phone/Gps pairing accepts different devices better
@@durango008, your mileage may vary. The Hero12 is accepted by the Packtalk Edge as a device that can connect as a bluetooth headset ("Rider A"/ "Rider B"). Since I don't have a Insta360 Ace Pro I cannot verify if that one can do the same. I don't have the PT Bold anymore. I just sold the pair I had the other day, so I can't verify the PT Bold against the Hero12 either. I've had some plain stereo headsets earlier that connected to the Packtalk / Packtalk Bold in the rider channel. When I tried a Sony WH-1000XM4 to pair with the Packtalk Edge now, the PTE wouldn't accept it. Some devices will be able to connect in the TFT/ GPS/ Phone 2 mode instead, as you say.
Though bluetooth connection is sweet to have, the known hardwired helmet recording solutions with separate/ dedicated lav mikes and Y-splitters are still the most reliable way to connect for voice and group recording. Just do a neat install and tuck those tiny wires away. 👌🙂
@@bjornonwheelsyou seem to know a lot about this-I just got the x3 and need both a headset for group rides and a mic for vlogging. Will the cardo be able to record my voice audio for the vlogs while also being able to connect to
My phone/other riders, or will I need a separate mic for the vlog while the cardo does my phone and other riders? TIA!
@@jamestalkseverything sorry, I don't know the X3. My experience and current reference is Packtalk Edge and bluetooth to GoPro Hero12. Blutooth voice recording for both own voice and group works on that setup, but audio quality is variable to poor and for the moment I see it as suitable for own educational purposes only. For public VLOG I'd recommend a separate microphone still and keep the Cardo Packtalk for phone and group communications (per April 2024). Let's hope audio recording over BT improves in the close future!
🙂
This method doesn't seem to work on my oneRS, or am I doing something wrong?
Yes. Does not work. Cardo 4x + rs
Sorry, I tried it the first time and it didn't work. And today I did it! works!
Does it record the incoming too? I've heard you can record the audio on your phone (not tried it yet) and I was thinking that'd be a great way to record the chatter with my friends. I could still record the mic on my Insta360 to get ambient/engine noise and just fix it in post.
Group audio can be recorded if the recording camera is bridged in to Packtalk DMC Mesh as bluetooth "Rider A" or "Rider B". Recorded group audio will be poor and intermittent. 😬
It’s not working. I mean it does get paired but audio does not work. 😅 i bought ace pro just after watching that commercial.
Just got my reply from cardo giving long process to pair the intercom. Let’s see if it will work.
Hello . What a nice Channel !☀️☀️
When connected the camera, will it still record Cardo conversations as well as audio?
Group audio can be recorded if the recording camera is bridged in to Packtalk DMC Mesh as bluetooth "Rider A" or "Rider B". Recorded group audio will be poor and intermittent. 😬
thank you, awesome video as well @@bjornonwheels
@@bjornonwheels I’ll probably just get a recorder and a second Cardo
@@nickbock3156 I've tested that alternative, by recording off a 2nd Packtalk. Both with my previous PT Bold and now the PT Edge, in both cases connected as DMC mesh. I'm not really sure that the audio is as enjoyable, it sure isn't HiFi. If you want to reflect a comms audio situation in your audio it's fine, but you're most certain to get some comms audio artifacts as you'd normally experience in a DMC mesh connection. Remember to insert some electrical attenuation between the headset audio out and recorder, otherwise the recorded audio might have too much gain and be just too hot even when the output volume from the PT Edge is turned all way down. The PT Edge audio out is meant for headset audio, not line out to recording equipment.
My take is that own voice is best recorded with a good quality dedicated lav mike with a good wind muff / deadcat inside the helmet. Group comms audio can be picked up by a lav mike close by or even on the right or left earpiece/speaker as acoustic coupling and some (mono) split wiring connecting with own voice lav mike to recorder. Alternativley as electrical signal split with attenuator wire and (mono) split wiring with own voice lav mike. That will keep you down to the complexity of just having to deal with a single PT Edge on your side for logistics, power/charge, group connection and so on.
Enjoy experimenting! 🙂
nice
Now make it compatible with all the Packtalks. I mean, how difficult can it be 🤷♂️
The timing on my his video, I was just shopping around for one
the lack of engine sound, is weird.
I’ll be honest the cardo audio sounds like ass and the others are way better
Happy to help testing the group chat on the Cardo. Halla
Does it works with Freecom X4?
Only the cardo edge.