4:29 If Ryo appears in TRI, that means that A, Maki is part of Hypnos, B. the Tamers are going to be involved, and C. SHIT IS ABOUT TO FUCKING GO DOWN.
Not necessarily. Tamers and Adventure are different universes. Ryo was transported from the Adventure universe to the Tamers universe. If Ryo is (remembered and) brought back, it would just be Ryo, not the rest of his adoptive universe where he mysteriously has his own parents.
I'm surprised you didn't talk about the actual possibility of Ryo being Gennai. He looks the part, and with the timetravel stuff he's done with millenniummon; it's possible.
I thought i was the only one thank you! Besides his appearance it would make sence, gennai was infected with a dark spore by piedmon in the flashback of season 2, the dark spores are created by milleniummon though for stuff like manipulating ken into creating chimeramon so milleniummon can be created in a time paradox. It would make sence for Milleniummon to use the 2 humans present during his "death". When the 4th tri poster came out i was absolutely sure because Machinedramon was on it and it would be like the only logical explanation for why evil gennai chose to dress up as the emperor (instead they chose not to have any explanation).
Genni literally means subverter of countries. Digimon goes hella deep. Like Metaphysics deep. Quantum realms deep. Genni is the only constant human just like The unkown human in the Pokemon Mystery Dungeon games. Digimon digital = your phone. Pokemon pocket = pocket dimension. The digital and Pokemon worlds are the same. Their inspiration comes from the same potentiality force we tap into when we dream or imagine. That's why both were so captivating. The idea of you demons" manifesting as friends. Imaginary friends. There's always the bad imaginary friend "lucifer, satan, the demiurge, morpheus, milleniumon, darkrai" same entity. It seeks forgiveness. Creepy I know but thats the holistic nature of space time. All the stories are true/ all the characters are you.
That would explain why Gennai appeared as the Digimon Emperor since the Emporer was also a creation of the spores. And also it looks like Machinedramon is gonna be in the next movie and he's one of the necessary components to create Milleniummon. I think the spores are basically pieces of Milleniummon that cause the person they infect to subconsciously start trying to create Milleniummon again, just like Ken was driven to create Chimeramon, one of the necessary parts of Milleniummon. If he hadn't been stopped, he probably would have continued to create Machindramon.
And I repeat what I said in an older vid- The digivice Mika shows is shown in the first episode-> When they presented the missing digidestined. in the vid "Digimon Theory - Maki Original Digidestined/ Evil Gennai" I wrote: "The Digivice you showed in 1:48 is the same one Maki used to open the gate!"
One Vision is the insert song from Season 3 and is on Taichi's workbook in the first movie (first five minutes to be exact); Milleniummon's dark spore made Ken turn Digimon Kaiser in 02 which he was with Ryo when he defeated it. Milleniummon's hi-jinks also caused Ryo to be transported into the Tamers world after his Monodramon fused with ZeedMilleniummon. Now, I'd assume that the destruction of the d-reaper and the reboot of the digital world and Ryo's pathological need to run away and tame digimon probably led to him fleeing back into the digital world. Tl;dr Milleniummon confirmed! Machinedramon is the enemy of the next movie! Ryo is totes Gennai. Ryo confirmed.
I also think that Milleniummon and ryu will play a role...the fact that evil genni pretends to be Ken, and Ken was with ryu when they fought milleniummon is what gives me the feeling...
That is good, but what about Nyaromon being with the others? My theory is that Gennei travel back in time, to stop Piedmon and then when the eggs hatch, all eight was together, instead of Gennei dropping one of the eggs. I wonder if that means we suppose to see Salamon instead of Gatomon in the first place.
i think we might get another x-evolution plot again where yggdrasil is working with maki and gennai to get rid of the digimons because its over populated,and seeing that alphamon and jesmon,two royal knights appeared i think im probably correct.
I have another threory along the same lines except one difference in this movie "homeostasis" was name dropped who is a being very close to yggdrasil in fact he is the god of season 1 so maybe there are two gods yggdrasil and homeostasis and the royal knights have split between them and are fighting
As far as i remember, Homeostasis is a replacement for Yggdrasil (Because Ygg gone berzerk on some situations, notably the X movie). So, theres no place for Yggdrasil to have a seat.
I've actually found a hole in your theory. At the end of Ryo's final game on the Wonderswan, and the end of his journey, nobody could kill Milleniummon. Milleniummon could only be stopped for destroying the Digimon multiverse because Monodramon sacrificed his own life to seal Milleniummon inside his own body, reverting himself to an egg. Milleniumon is still living inside Monodramon, and it's vicious nature only surfaces when Monodramon has Digivolved to Cyberdramon. Due to the weak body of Monodramon suppressing Milleniumon's power. Another thing, Ken only became the Digimon Emperor because Milleniumon's spore is still inside him. Hence why he made a Kimeramon. Had Kimeramon not been stopped, the Digimon Emperor probably would've made a Machindramon and Jogressed the two together to make a new Milleniummon to replace the old one, restarting the whole events of the Wonderswan games all over again...This time without Ryo being able to stop him! Out of all the Digidestined, only Ken remembers the events of the Wonderswan games. Proof is in one episode of 02, Ken had a nightmare of him purposely getting hit by Milleniumon's spores that was aimed at Ryo instead of Ryo getting hit! That just shows how good friends Ryo and Ken are! The Digidestined were extremely mean towards Ryo though! Ken was Ryo's only friend among them! One friend was not enough for Ryo to go to the Adventure Digimon reality, so he went to the Digimon Tamers one instead. If Ryo does appear in Digimon Tri, he'd have to be the one to stop Milleniummon if Milleniummon is the true villain of Digimon Tri's plot. Milleniummon IS Ryo's destined Digimon Partner after all! That's why he has such a connection to him!
The theory is interesting but there is a few flaws. 1. I can't remember exactly but wasn't Milleniummon *AFTER* Gennai was attacked by Piedmon. Because all that happened shortly after the original Digidestined (our group of 8) were chosen after their interactions with the large Red Agumon and Parrotmon. The Digimon were digieggs when Piedmon and his army stole the crests, and Gennai made off with the eggs and digivices (save Gatomon). This would make it years before Milleniummon, the Digimon had to grow naturally as well as they didn't have their parters speeding up their evolutions. Next consider in the games Agumon contacts Ryo when he had already evolved into Agumon which would mean that time had passed for Agumon, and for Gennai. Gennai became old at this time (if it's the same one) and then became younger somehow in 02. I can't remember if that was just a dub thing or what but I have some thoughts on this theory. 2. We're still not sure if this *IS* Gennai. Him becoming Ken doesn't make much sense unless he's needing to keep his identity hidden.
let's not get ahead of ourselves. We still need to know about wether or not Himekawa planned this all along. Because that grin wasn't a happy grin in was an evil grin. Don't defend her.
I believe that is true for Gennai and in one of Ken flashback in season 2 we could see Ryo. Know I am even more worry about the main team and as well as the team from season two.
Ryo exists in the tamer world with Takato, Rika etc. They mention Tai and Kari in that season trying to be like them. However, if you remember in the second season, young ken ichijouji is is taken to the world, and people have always wondered who that person was in the sandstorm with him. The person resembled Gennai highly. I think that encounter that people questioned will come into play with Ken being an emperor, Gennai taking his form etc etc. But thats a small part of it to the bigger picture.
Ryo originated in the Adventure universe (he's canonically the one who was with Ken and Mille). He was made to travel to the Tamers universe after the ordeal with ZeedMille (don't ask where his parents came from). Certain points about Tai being mentioned never occurred in the original, but Adventure and 02 were broadcast there per Konaka. Incidentally, this means that Ryo could watch himself on TV for a few moments. But Ryo technically isn't able to travel back and forth on his own now.
I hope your right if ken is considered a season 1 character (had a regular digivice has a crest and is the only member of season 2 so far that has been named) then Ryo should be considered one as well (i like the theory from someone below that gennai is ryo) but you left out any mention of homeostasis being confirmed now
I would like to share my own theory on the topic: It could be quite long so read carefully and take your time. If you find it such a bothering then feel free to ignore. Ok, so taking in consideration this... "Agents: The Agents are a group of digital humanoids that created the Tags, Crests, and Digivices. They also cared for the Digi-Egg that would hatch into the DigiDestined's Digimon. When Piedmon learned of this, he assembled a force of Guardromon and Mekanorimon and attacked their hideout, killing all save Gennai, who escaped with the digi-eggs and crests, except for Gatomon's". What if Maki Himekawa is like Gennai, another Agent who survived the attack of the Dark Masters and that's why they seems to know each other, and they are working together in some sort of vegance? Now, being Piemon the one that sent to kill all Agents and this was a Dark Master (the leader), maybe there is a relation with the return of Machinedramon, which is another Dark Master (the strongest one). Maybe Gennai and Himekawa are using their own perpetrators as pawns in their vengance. So at the beginning a was thinking on that, but then I considered the following... - The Dark Masters killed all the Agents except Gennai (and Himekawa assuming that she is an Agent like Gennai) - If Himekawa is an Agent and is working with Gennai, she may be infiltrated in the organization that watch over Digimon phenomena en in the real world in order to gather information and decieve attention. After all, Agents and Humans are physicaly identical, and if Digimon, viruses and other digital phenomena are able to traspass and affect the real world, why an Agent coulnd't? That should aslo explain why she knows Gennai and why she is able to travel between worlds. - The organization was founded after the events of Apocarymon, which were witnessed in all the skies around the world. - Dark Masters are pawns of Apocarymon. Apocarymon is an atemporal and paradimentional being that was born from the data of Milleniummon in order to ensure its own existence. (Read and research the official chart of Milleniummon and further information about its origins, nature and general background). - In order for Milleniummon to be born, the data of Apocarymon, Mahchinedramon (Dark Master, subordinade of Piemon, which is suborndinade of Apocarymon, which was created from Milleniummon) and Chimeramon are required. - Gennai is pretending to be Ken Ichijouji, more specificly the Digimon Emperor. - Ken Ichijouji/ The Emperor, was the one who created Chimeramon. Himekawa as the black D-3, Ichijouji's D-3. When the Digidestined of 02 were defeated by Alphamon at the beginning of Seikai, Ken's D-3 was the only one with a close up. (Getting back to the beginning)... - Apocarymon is the safety policy to ensure Milleniummon existence. - The Dark Masters worked for Apocarymon or were controled by him. - The Dark Masters Killed the Agents. - Piemon, Dark Master´s leader, infected Gennai with that little black sphere, which is arguably a dark spore. - Spores, just as Apocarymon, were created from Milleniummon. - If Himekawa is an Agent like Gennai, she muts be infected as well by Piemon or somehow. - In Kokuhaku the concept of "Quantic sea" is introduced, and it is denominated as the 1st source of "all realities". It is known that in Digimon all realities are paralel to each other. This topic have been already discussed in mangas, in the movie Digimon Tamers: Battle of the Adventurers, Digimon Xros Wars eps. 78-79, Digimon Story Cyber Sleuth and most recently here in Digimon Adventure Tri: Kokuhaku. - Milleniummon evolves into Zeed Milleniummon which has been said to be a multiversal and atemporal being prophesied to be the one to destroy "all realities and universes". So... adding 2+2 I believe that... - As shown in a flashback in Adventure 02, Milleniummon was defeated by Ken Ichijouji and Ryo Akajima during or prior the events of Adventure 01. With Milleniummon's death, the Dark spores and Apocarymon (which is an atemporal being) are created, and thus, ensuring its own existence. - The Dark Masters killed all the Agents, except Gennai and Himekawa. - Gennai got to scaped with the Crests and Digi-eggs which are going to destroy Apocarymon in the future. - Gennai (or one of his copies) is corrupted by Piemon and so is Himekawa(?). Maybe the effects of the spore/black sphere were set to be activated after some time. - The concept of "corruption" by the action of an external element has been highgly used in Digimon Advenutre and is nothing new. Gears of Darkness, Spores of Darkeness, Control Towers/Dark Towers, etc, etc - If the spore/black sphere was to be effective inmediatly, then Gennai (or his infected copy) must had been pretending to be a good guy all this time. If it was indeed a copy, then it had to remain hidden until the right ime comes. - Machinedramon was destroyed by War Greymon's Dramon Killers in Adventure 01. Its data was not absorbed. - Apocarymon was destroyed at the end of Adventure 01 by all the Digidestined. Its data was not absorbed. - Chimeramon was destroyed by Maganamon 4 years later after Adventure 01 in Adventure 02. Its data was not absorbed. - Chimeramon's data may be loaded on Ichijouji's D-3, after all, he was the one who created Chimeramon. - Apocarymon's and Machinedramon's Data may be conserved or gathered somehow by Gennai (or his corrputed copy). - Machinedramon + Apocarymon + Chimeramon = Milleniummon. Milleniummon evolves into Zeed Milleniummon. Zeed Milleniummon = The Quantic sea and all other realities become highly endangered. This may explain... Why Himekawa knows Gennai and is able to travel between worlds = Like Gennai, she is also an Agent. - Why Himekawa have Ichijouji's D-3 and why Gennai of all villians and desguises, is pretending to be the Emperor = Chimeramon, which is required for Milleniummon's formula. - Why Machinedramon? = Machindramon is a Dark Master, The Dark Masters killed all Agents, except Gennai and Himekawa who got corrupted, Dark Master were under Apocarymon's command. Machindramon is required in Milleniummon's formula. - Why Apocarymon? = Mastermind behind the Dark Masters. Created to ensure Milleniummon's birth which will evolve into Zeed Milleniummon. Apocarymon must be destroyed in order to get the Data also required in Millenimmon's formula. - Apocarymon Data+ Chimeramon Data+ Machinedramon Data= Milleniummon = Zeed Milleniummon = Quantic Sea and all realities endagered = Homeostasis is on high alert = we go back to the beginning of my thesis. - Conclussion: The plot is trying to give birth to Zeed Milleniummon which denominated as the "Ultimate Evil" destined to destroy all realities. The only thing that I believe I haven't manege to fit in m theory is "Demiurgos", because they haven't clearly explain what the heck is that shit xD Any question? What do you guys think? x)
Its a good theory, actually. Fun thing is: Bad feeling and malevolence actions are one of the thing that makes milleniummon to be fueled (rebirth), so, theses events on the films were actually much beneficial for him; More than most ppl imaginate. (Considering that he is actually aglomerate of every bad thing you can imaginate on one existence lol) He probably will be stronger than the last time someone met (Ryo).
Buuut. What if the actual villain is not Milleniummon, but other? Like... Ogudomon. (Or simply the Demon (Ultra-form) ) LOL Because we are clearly forgetting about Demon from the 02, who were plotting something. He can be the mastermind of everything happening right now. Like, he is doing all of that just to obtain his Ultra-form. Or... Considering the fact that he has been pushed to Dark Sea (and Dark Sea are Dagomon area, wich evolves into Leviathmon, one of the sin demon digimons), he coud've been merged with Leviathmon to transform into Ogudon on the proccess.
derikk5 Actually Demon being the Mastermind could be possible as well, since, you know... he was never "destroyed" in the 1st place. Just expelled to the Dark Area. However, the treath of a "multiversal" level and the implication of the concept of the "Quantic Sea", Ichijouji's D-3, Gennai portraying himself as the Digimon Emperor, Machinedramon, etc... there are all hints more related to Milleniummon than any other evil Digimon. Most ppl doesn't know the background of Milleniummon, what digimon are required to form him, his relation with Apocarymon, and the relation of this with the Dark Masters, being one of this Machinedramon which required to form Milleniummon. Plus, Ichijouji was directly involved in the 1st defeating of Milleniummon, and of all Digidestined of 02 he is the only one that has been constantly hinted about. In addition, now that you mentioned that all the negative events of Tri, it is true that they have been leading to a series of negative feelings, despair, fear, hesitation, anger,sadness, etc... they may indeed be fuelling the Rebirth of Milleniummon, that can also explain the purpose of all this infection issue within the plot, which makes me further believe on Milleniummon being the ultimate menace in this arc. It is quite interesting indeed :) Ps. In any case, nothing about any Demon Lord has been hinted so far, eventhough Daemon is one them, nothing about him has been implied as well (yet?), so I'm not very confident about Ogudomon being the last enemy. In the same way, it is known (so far) that in order to reach his Ultra form Daemon requires Arukadhimon, which again is nowhere to be seen or hinted. So I'm not trully sure about them... maybe in the following Ovas they revealed further information, remember that I and pretty much everybody are just making "theories" and "speculations" solely based in the current 3 Ovas aviable and there are still 3 more to come o:
Gabriel Pereira Thats true, hahaha. But the truth, there one more evil being that threats the digital world on the same scale as milleniummon; And thats Ogudomon, as i mentioned. Why? He is actually all the seventh-sins related. You would've mention the lucemon satan-form, but, fact is, its much stronger than satan form. The motive is... No one can destroy him, while the person hold any type of feeling. Lets say i would try to destroy because, "i want to protect the world. Its my job!". Well, it gets nullfied. Not actually a joke. And guess where actually Daemon got pushed back? Yup, the "Dark Sea" (what both of us mentioned), where dagomon lives; And dagomon can evolve into Leviathmon, one of the sin demons. And thoses sin's digimons can evolve into Ogudomon, if they merge with another sin's digimon (any comb can turn into it).
I think Dark Geni is actually Piedmon in disguise as they have the same personality and sick since of humor, not to mention that they are both shapeshifters.
Well we know now that in the 4th movie called Loss which is coming out on February 25th 2017 the poster features Taichi, Yamato, Sora, Hououmon and Mugendramon (Machinedramon) so Milleniumon is very possible
The thing is, machinedramon and kimeramon were resurrected as a result of the Y2K glitch, in the year 2000. Digimon Tri. is not based in the same year.
Your theory is pretty decent though mines a little different. This isn't the first canonical reboot to happen in the digital world. There's also the one from digital X evolution. And let's take some events from that movie to clear things up. The Royal Knights and Yggdrasil are immune to the reboot. Also digimon with the X-Antibody Virus are immune. So this would explain meikomon and the two Royal Knights. And yes I support the theory that maji is an original digidestined. Though I don't think jesmon is hers. But I do believe Ryo will return and so will zeedmillenioummon as to why machinedramon is in the next movie I say he has the X-antibody virus and was immune. And chimeramon will also return and eventually by the final movie we'll see ryu and zeedmillenioummon make their comeback in the anime.
I've had the x antibody in the back of my head also. But i haven't been 100% able to back it up..because..well..Meicoomon seems to be the only Digimon with the virus, that actually looks like a x antibody version of a Digimon.
Well there's also official X-antibody virus evolutions for each of the Royal Knights as well. So the Royal Knights could also have it. A lot if digimon who get have an evolution they get. Like wargreymon and metalgarururmon. As jesmon is fairly new and doesn't have a virus form I guess all the Royal Knights and Yggdrasil are exempt as to why Yggdrasil was still corrupted and evil after the reboot in X evolution. Because they are the admins of the digital world and probably need their levels and knowledge to run it. And I'm guessing there's a feud among the Knights currently. Like some wanted another reboot and some didn't. They could also be blaming alphamon for the virus as he has it and he might be accused of spreading it. I don't think Jesmon is evil, especially with his namesake being Jesus Christ. Jesmon's character from what we've seen so far is a chivalrous one. But he is still young and naive so he could just be against alphamon cause he's on the side accusing him of spreading the virus. What do you think?
I forgot about that movie! The X-anti body thing is a possibility! The only Digimon game I've ever played was the 'Digimon Masters' MMO and the ds game 'Digimon World Dawn', so I don't quite see how Ryo would actually be in it, aside from him having a tiny part in Digimon the Movie where he was watching the Digidestined's battle with Diaboromon
jedi airon there is a huge differences between a Royal Knight and a Jogress Digimon, sure they can form Omegamon, but in fact, that Omegamon isn't the one that is part of the Royal Knights, in this case the Jogress Omegamon is too far to to even assimilate the power of the RK Omegamon, and the reboot didn't effect Alphamon and Jesmon because Royal Knights usually have this power of travelling between dimensions, and we can see that in Digimon Tri with Alphamon doing that in the real world, so we can assume they travel to a dimension where the reboot didn't affect at all
About Digimon.. I think this a way for Daemon to get the Dark Spores.. If you think about it milleniumon released the dark spores in the past when he battled Ken and Ryo.. By reseting /rebooting the digital world 🌍 back to how it was like a fresh new computer 💻 factor settings.. Daemon can recreate a milleniumon or create a Zeedmilleniumon and with the same events to get the Dark Spores or recreate a digital world in his own image.. History is repeating.. This can explain a lot of things if they do this perfectly. Also Jessmon and Alphamon is the same things that going on in digimon cyber sleuth not exactly but similar. Some Royal Knights want to delete all infected digimon and other Royal Knights believe there's another way without harm.. I'm guessing Hack is for the kids and Alphamon just wants to get rid of anything that's cause trouble and damage to the digital world.... I just hope they explain who were the original digi destines.. Or this could be the story..
No don't think so Milleniumon was created in Xros wars manga the same way in the ryo games but it did not have any dark spores which was mention the the manga. As for changing the digital world lore just change records and history also changes.
My issue is: We know the digidestined digimon are in the forest and the kids initially got no guidance because Gennai had to flee the dark masters with the eggs and crests. SO if the world reset and gennai is "evil" why are the digimon in the same place tho time around?
your theory makes perfect sense, as a big fan o Ryo Akiyama I just hope he shows up in adventure tri, besides he is the "dimensinal traveler" isn't he? so it's a long shot posibility but gosh i hope ypu're right!
I think the whole reboot thing was an elaborate ploy by a now evil Genni and whomever Maki is (i think she's the main antagonist, probably an evil digimon disguised) to cripple the original digidestined and somehow resurrect the evil digimon that have died over the past few years. The digimon are going to struggle to digivolve until they get their memories back, after all they depend on their bonds to evolve. Maki was way too happy after learning the digimon had lost their memories.
well i have a theory that Genai is not a bad guy and he just needed the reboot so he can give to the digimons the x antibody i noticed that meikos dark digivice had an X could meicoomon already has the x antibody?
When did the spore thing happen? I really don't remember that! Also - if Ryo shows up to fight Milleniummon, his partner is not going to be Cyberdramon because Cyberdramon was created as a fusion of Ryo's original partner and Milleniummon... Wasn't he?
i do like the idea of huckmon being maki's digimon and zeed mellieniumon being the main antagonist...and revealed sed manipulated all for his creation since the dark masters saga or even dark emperor saga in the next tittle... and all still end how adventures 2
man that would make the whole time paradox with ken, ryo and millenniummon even more fucked. piemon infecting gennai with the dark spore millenniummon created. and yeah that could be good for ryo to return to his own timeline. ryo is at the same age as taichi, yamato and most other children from that generation, meaning he was 11 in adventure 1, and it's stated that in tamers ryo is 14, taichi, yamato, sora, jo, koshiro and mimi were 14 in adventure 2 meaning that the events in tamers took place in the same time as in adventure 2. taichi and the others are 17 in tri so yeah ryo could return since his mission in the tamers timeline is over
I think Mil is the Big bad, the Dark Masters are his Generals, Maki and Gennai are both under a form of possession. The 02 kids are imprisoned within the DW.
what if later in the movies, omnimon managed to evolve further and turned to alphamon. And what if his main enemy is millenniummon. And what if he sends alphamon back in time back to the beginning of tri movie. alphamon knowing that meicoomon started everything tries to destroy him but the Digi destined arrive and omnimon fights alphamon.
I thought in season 1 of the original Digimon the old man was the one fighting the Dark Masters so i really sure that what you are saying is 100% not right
I love Ryo. but tamers destroy him. I think is highly probable. since you can see the kids forget abou Ken and the 02 kids, like what happened to Ryo before. And with the homeostasis confirming the existence of other worlds. is possible that Ryo is in the tamers universe. since the show the book with the tamers song title and because this is an anniversary series I don't think it doesn't mean a thing. they put it there for a reason. also there is the theory that gennai is Ryo or ryo's clone . I don't think Maki is one of the original digidestined mainly because I still have hopes they are the frontier kids. but I do believe she is good. she is making everyone think she is the bad for a reason. I feel she is like Tony stark in civil war, doing all this for a greatest good.
I kinda wonder, if Gennai is evil- Why he helped them digivolve? It was LITERALLY his point in the prophecy! Making them go through bad stuff so they can go to mega. Hmmm... Now that I think of it... Maybe he unlocked it for later taking control over them with the infection?
Isn't that Kens digivice? Is Tamers connected to Adventure? Somebody please explain this to me because I'm really confused right now after watching the 3rd movie of tri.
Fredrick Aleksander I was referring to Ryo, not the digivice because I'm not much familiar with his character except from Tamers. I'm already aware bout the digivice from Adventure 2. I was just wondering how the heck did that woman get it.
Ryo is a big character in some of the games, and if you watched Digimon Adventure 02 there's a flashback from when Ken was younger and you could see him travelling the Digital World with Ryo.
Basically there is a connection to the Wonderswan games which are canon to Adventure 02 where... Machinedramon + Chimairamon in their dying forms DNA digivolve and essentially takes his revenge out on the Digi-Destined by kidnapping them and I won't go into the whole thing because it's very long to explain. Basically Agumon is the only one to escape with Tai's digivice and calls for help to which only Ryo responds. Ultimately there are multiple showdowns in which Milenniummon is defeated one of which unleashing the dark spores on Ken. In the Final Encounter Xeedmilleniummon is shown to be able to erase any digital beings from existence with one attack.
If they do the next movies perfectly definitely Digimon Tri can possibly get a series season similar to Dragon Ball Super. Theirs so many unsolved About Digimon... Who are the other original digi destines?I thought the voice that took over Kari was spirit of her Mega digimon Ophanimon. But God's of the Digital World is Yggdrasill and Huanglongmon share the title of "God of the Digital World" with God.
in the adventure novel homeostasis was the one who took over Hikari. In Xros Wars homeostasis is the new god after the last god Yggdrasill was gone. In Savers we learn about Yggdrasill. So it was god who took over Hikari
Hah i just noticed some real details here watching the video and listening to ryo's backstory what if ryo is geni same hair style when younger and same eyes and the dark copys happened to ryo so what if ryo is fighting another bad copy of himself but the ryo i mean is more so the past ryo before he becomes geni it seems right if he is permanently linked to millenniummon then why cant he have become purely digital himself or made his own copys of himself to watch the digital world when he isnt there and the ageing makes sense if milleniummon took them to the past and or future then the copies make total sense if he needed to make sure anyone could get the info before he left the time he was sent to
Well the seed was planted back in season 1. Millenniummon could gave triggered the virus at anytime, my guess.. he was waiting for the perfect moment..or waiting until he was strong enough
This is kinda off, for starters black spores come after adventures 01, somewhere in between 02 and 01, secondly Millneumon was already defeated, even if the digital reset no of the event that lead to his birth would happen
Theres no need for any such event to happen to him to be rebirth, actually. He actually were born from malignance from the others digimons (or even humans), such as bad actions, feelings, etc. So, as long thoses things exists, he can still come back, no matter what. So, i wont be surprised if Meicoomon turn into him, considering her plot on the story.
people be hating ryo like they hate on 02. only difference is that one is brought much in terms of story to the world while the other is a shit sequel.
Regardless of what they do with dark gennai its not gonna make up for him being a chore to watch in the first 5 movies he was in. The worst part definetly has to be the Digimon Emperor costume that he uses for no reason except for the fact that he likes it and its fanservice. Digimon Tri really loves to act like 02 didnt happen while also shoving the Digimon Emperor in our face all the time with dark gennai who isnt half the character ken was. Wish they wouldnt waste resources on this anymore, they already gave them a barebones budget and shitty staff so why bother. I hope that someday we can get another digimon series with normal evolutions, Xros wars wasnt horrible but the evolution sequences failed to build the usual hype as digimons didnt have fixed levels and there was little reward for the emotional growth of characters. Tri didnt even bother with the whole growth thing instead gave us tai "dying" only to bring him back and make everyone seem surprised. Lastly Mei didnt even do anything despite the movie series being her introduction.
I love Ryo. but tamers destroy him. I think is highly probable. since you can see the kids forget abou Ken and the 02 kids, like what happened to Ryo before. And with the homeostasis confirming the existence of other worlds. is possible that Ryo is in the tamers universe. since the show the book with the tamers song title and because this is an anniversary series I don't think it doesn't mean a thing. they put it there for a reason. also there is the theory that gennai is Ryo or ryo's clone . I don't think Maki is one of the original digidestined mainly because I still have hopes they are the frontier kids. but I do believe she is good. she is making everyone think she is the bad for a reason. I feel she is like Tony stark in civil war, doing all this for a greatest good.
4:29 If Ryo appears in TRI, that means that A, Maki is part of Hypnos, B. the Tamers are going to be involved, and C. SHIT IS ABOUT TO FUCKING GO DOWN.
Not necessarily. Tamers and Adventure are different universes. Ryo was transported from the Adventure universe to the Tamers universe. If Ryo is (remembered and) brought back, it would just be Ryo, not the rest of his adoptive universe where he mysteriously has his own parents.
I'm surprised you didn't talk about the actual possibility of Ryo being Gennai. He looks the part, and with the timetravel stuff he's done with millenniummon; it's possible.
I thought of that too!!!!!! :D Gennai having been Ryo in his childhood would be very COOL!!!!!!
You are right ryo is gennai it make sense
I thought i was the only one thank you!
Besides his appearance it would make sence, gennai was infected with a dark spore by piedmon in the flashback of season 2, the dark spores are created by milleniummon though for stuff like manipulating ken into creating chimeramon so milleniummon can be created in a time paradox. It would make sence for Milleniummon to use the 2 humans present during his "death". When the 4th tri poster came out i was absolutely sure because Machinedramon was on it and it would be like the only logical explanation for why evil gennai chose to dress up as the emperor (instead they chose not to have any explanation).
Genni literally means subverter of countries. Digimon goes hella deep. Like Metaphysics deep. Quantum realms deep. Genni is the only constant human just like The unkown human in the Pokemon Mystery Dungeon games. Digimon digital = your phone. Pokemon pocket = pocket dimension. The digital and Pokemon worlds are the same. Their inspiration comes from the same potentiality force we tap into when we dream or imagine. That's why both were so captivating. The idea of you demons" manifesting as friends. Imaginary friends. There's always the bad imaginary friend "lucifer, satan, the demiurge, morpheus, milleniumon, darkrai" same entity. It seeks forgiveness. Creepy I know but thats the holistic nature of space time. All the stories are true/ all the characters are you.
That would explain why Gennai appeared as the Digimon Emperor since the Emporer was also a creation of the spores. And also it looks like Machinedramon is gonna be in the next movie and he's one of the necessary components to create Milleniummon. I think the spores are basically pieces of Milleniummon that cause the person they infect to subconsciously start trying to create Milleniummon again, just like Ken was driven to create Chimeramon, one of the necessary parts of Milleniummon. If he hadn't been stopped, he probably would have continued to create Machindramon.
Your theory is correct because the 4th movie poster shows machinedramon on the cover.
AAAAAAAND it was wrong xD
@Falcon Shadow Nova yes i hope we get to see a reboot of ryo and milleniniummon battle like the games.
What if Ryo grew up to be genai??
And I repeat what I said in an older vid-
The digivice Mika shows is shown in the first episode-> When they presented the missing digidestined. in the vid "Digimon Theory - Maki Original Digidestined/ Evil Gennai" I wrote:
"The Digivice you showed in 1:48 is the same one Maki used to open the gate!"
One Vision is the insert song from Season 3 and is on Taichi's workbook in the first movie (first five minutes to be exact); Milleniummon's dark spore made Ken turn Digimon Kaiser in 02 which he was with Ryo when he defeated it. Milleniummon's hi-jinks also caused Ryo to be transported into the Tamers world after his Monodramon fused with ZeedMilleniummon. Now, I'd assume that the destruction of the d-reaper and the reboot of the digital world and Ryo's pathological need to run away and tame digimon probably led to him fleeing back into the digital world.
Tl;dr Milleniummon confirmed! Machinedramon is the enemy of the next movie! Ryo is totes Gennai. Ryo confirmed.
What if the dark spore from piedmon was a failsafe so that if they failed their mission dark gennai was to put events into motion to cause a reboot
I also think that Milleniummon and ryu will play a role...the fact that evil genni pretends to be Ken, and Ken was with ryu when they fought milleniummon is what gives me the feeling...
AAAAAAAND it was wrong xD
this would be a good plot if it happened but instead we get a fused digimon we still dont know about.
That is good, but what about Nyaromon being with the others? My theory is that Gennei travel back in time, to stop Piedmon and then when the eggs hatch, all eight was together, instead of Gennei dropping one of the eggs. I wonder if that means we suppose to see Salamon instead of Gatomon in the first place.
i think we might get another x-evolution plot again where yggdrasil is working with maki and gennai to get rid of the digimons because its over populated,and seeing that alphamon and jesmon,two royal knights appeared i think im probably correct.
I have another threory along the same lines except one difference in this movie "homeostasis" was name dropped who is a being very close to yggdrasil in fact he is the god of season 1 so maybe there are two gods yggdrasil and homeostasis and the royal knights have split between them and are fighting
As far as i remember, Homeostasis is a replacement for Yggdrasil (Because Ygg gone berzerk on some situations, notably the X movie). So, theres no place for Yggdrasil to have a seat.
He is also the original god of season 1 who possessed kari before so really he predates yggdrasil
At the end of this Digimon Adventure Tri-series, Ryo and Milleniumon go to another world to continue the fight.
And here we go Digimon Tamers 2!!!!!!
I've actually found a hole in your theory. At the end of Ryo's final game on the Wonderswan, and the end of his journey, nobody could kill Milleniummon. Milleniummon could only be stopped for destroying the Digimon multiverse because Monodramon sacrificed his own life to seal Milleniummon inside his own body, reverting himself to an egg. Milleniumon is still living inside Monodramon, and it's vicious nature only surfaces when Monodramon has Digivolved to Cyberdramon. Due to the weak body of Monodramon suppressing Milleniumon's power. Another thing, Ken only became the Digimon Emperor because Milleniumon's spore is still inside him. Hence why he made a Kimeramon. Had Kimeramon not been stopped, the Digimon Emperor probably would've made a Machindramon and Jogressed the two together to make a new Milleniummon to replace the old one, restarting the whole events of the Wonderswan games all over again...This time without Ryo being able to stop him! Out of all the Digidestined, only Ken remembers the events of the Wonderswan games. Proof is in one episode of 02, Ken had a nightmare of him purposely getting hit by Milleniumon's spores that was aimed at Ryo instead of Ryo getting hit! That just shows how good friends Ryo and Ken are! The Digidestined were extremely mean towards Ryo though! Ken was Ryo's only friend among them! One friend was not enough for Ryo to go to the Adventure Digimon reality, so he went to the Digimon Tamers one instead. If Ryo does appear in Digimon Tri, he'd have to be the one to stop Milleniummon if Milleniummon is the true villain of Digimon Tri's plot. Milleniummon IS Ryo's destined Digimon Partner after all! That's why he has such a connection to him!
The theory is interesting but there is a few flaws.
1. I can't remember exactly but wasn't Milleniummon *AFTER* Gennai was attacked by Piedmon. Because all that happened shortly after the original Digidestined (our group of 8) were chosen after their interactions with the large Red Agumon and Parrotmon.
The Digimon were digieggs when Piedmon and his army stole the crests, and Gennai made off with the eggs and digivices (save Gatomon). This would make it years before Milleniummon, the Digimon had to grow naturally as well as they didn't have their parters speeding up their evolutions.
Next consider in the games Agumon contacts Ryo when he had already evolved into Agumon which would mean that time had passed for Agumon, and for Gennai. Gennai became old at this time (if it's the same one) and then became younger somehow in 02. I can't remember if that was just a dub thing or what but I have some thoughts on this theory.
2. We're still not sure if this *IS* Gennai. Him becoming Ken doesn't make much sense unless he's needing to keep his identity hidden.
Did Gennai get corrupted by Piedmon's Dark Spore? Will Ryo make a surprise return?
let's not get ahead of ourselves. We still need to know about wether or not Himekawa planned this all along.
Because that grin wasn't a happy grin in was an evil grin. Don't defend her.
the games that have ryo in them, are canon and sweet video
Benevolent Banette they are? Oh. I guess that's true.
I believe that is true for Gennai and in one of Ken flashback in season 2 we could see Ryo. Know I am even more worry about the main team and as well as the team from season two.
Snivy27 me too
Ryo exists in the tamer world with Takato, Rika etc. They mention Tai and Kari in that season trying to be like them. However, if you remember in the second season, young ken ichijouji is is taken to the world, and people have always wondered who that person was in the sandstorm with him. The person resembled Gennai highly. I think that encounter that people questioned will come into play with Ken being an emperor, Gennai taking his form etc etc. But thats a small part of it to the bigger picture.
Ryo originated in the Adventure universe (he's canonically the one who was with Ken and Mille). He was made to travel to the Tamers universe after the ordeal with ZeedMille (don't ask where his parents came from). Certain points about Tai being mentioned never occurred in the original, but Adventure and 02 were broadcast there per Konaka. Incidentally, this means that Ryo could watch himself on TV for a few moments. But Ryo technically isn't able to travel back and forth on his own now.
I hope your right if ken is considered a season 1 character (had a regular digivice has a crest and is the only member of season 2 so far that has been named) then Ryo should be considered one as well (i like the theory from someone below that gennai is ryo) but you left out any mention of homeostasis being confirmed now
I would like to share my own theory on the topic:
It could be quite long so read carefully and take your time. If you find it such a bothering then feel free to ignore.
Ok, so taking in consideration this...
"Agents: The Agents are a group of digital humanoids that created the Tags, Crests, and Digivices. They also cared for the Digi-Egg that would hatch into the DigiDestined's Digimon. When Piedmon learned of this, he assembled a force of Guardromon and Mekanorimon and attacked their hideout, killing all save Gennai, who escaped with the digi-eggs and crests, except for Gatomon's".
What if Maki Himekawa is like Gennai, another Agent who survived the attack of the Dark Masters and that's why they seems to know each other, and they are working together in some sort of vegance?
Now, being Piemon the one that sent to kill all Agents and this was a Dark Master (the leader), maybe there is a relation with the return of Machinedramon, which is another Dark Master (the strongest one). Maybe Gennai and Himekawa are using their own perpetrators as pawns in their vengance.
So at the beginning a was thinking on that, but then I considered the following...
- The Dark Masters killed all the Agents except Gennai (and Himekawa assuming that she is an Agent like Gennai)
- If Himekawa is an Agent and is working with Gennai, she may be infiltrated in the organization that watch over Digimon phenomena en in the real world in order to gather information and decieve attention. After all, Agents and Humans are physicaly identical, and if Digimon, viruses and other digital phenomena are able to traspass and affect the real world, why an Agent coulnd't? That should aslo explain why she knows Gennai and why she is able to travel between worlds.
- The organization was founded after the events of Apocarymon, which were witnessed in all the skies around the world.
- Dark Masters are pawns of Apocarymon. Apocarymon is an atemporal and paradimentional being that was born from the data of Milleniummon in order to ensure its own existence. (Read and research the official chart of Milleniummon and further information about its origins, nature and general background).
- In order for Milleniummon to be born, the data of Apocarymon, Mahchinedramon (Dark Master, subordinade of Piemon, which is suborndinade of Apocarymon, which was created from Milleniummon) and Chimeramon are required.
- Gennai is pretending to be Ken Ichijouji, more specificly the Digimon Emperor.
- Ken Ichijouji/ The Emperor, was the one who created Chimeramon. Himekawa as the black D-3, Ichijouji's D-3. When the Digidestined of 02 were defeated by Alphamon at the beginning of Seikai, Ken's D-3 was the only one with a close up.
(Getting back to the beginning)...
- Apocarymon is the safety policy to ensure Milleniummon existence.
- The Dark Masters worked for Apocarymon or were controled by him.
- The Dark Masters Killed the Agents.
- Piemon, Dark Master´s leader, infected Gennai with that little black sphere, which is arguably a dark spore.
- Spores, just as Apocarymon, were created from Milleniummon.
- If Himekawa is an Agent like Gennai, she muts be infected as well by Piemon or somehow.
- In Kokuhaku the concept of "Quantic sea" is introduced, and it is denominated as the 1st source of "all realities". It is known that in Digimon all realities are paralel to each other. This topic have been already discussed in mangas, in the movie Digimon Tamers: Battle of the Adventurers, Digimon Xros Wars eps. 78-79, Digimon Story Cyber Sleuth and most recently here in Digimon Adventure Tri: Kokuhaku.
- Milleniummon evolves into Zeed Milleniummon which has been said to be a multiversal and atemporal being prophesied to be the one to destroy "all realities and universes".
So... adding 2+2 I believe that...
- As shown in a flashback in Adventure 02, Milleniummon was defeated by Ken Ichijouji and Ryo Akajima during or prior the events of Adventure 01. With Milleniummon's death, the Dark spores and Apocarymon (which is an atemporal being) are created, and thus, ensuring its own existence.
- The Dark Masters killed all the Agents, except Gennai and Himekawa.
- Gennai got to scaped with the Crests and Digi-eggs which are going to destroy Apocarymon in the future.
- Gennai (or one of his copies) is corrupted by Piemon and so is Himekawa(?). Maybe the effects of the spore/black sphere were set to be activated after some time.
- The concept of "corruption" by the action of an external element has been highgly used in Digimon Advenutre and is nothing new. Gears of Darkness, Spores of Darkeness, Control Towers/Dark Towers, etc, etc
- If the spore/black sphere was to be effective inmediatly, then Gennai (or his infected copy) must had been pretending to be a good guy all this time. If it was indeed a copy, then it had to remain hidden until the right ime comes.
- Machinedramon was destroyed by War Greymon's Dramon Killers in Adventure 01. Its data was not absorbed.
- Apocarymon was destroyed at the end of Adventure 01 by all the Digidestined. Its data was not absorbed.
- Chimeramon was destroyed by Maganamon 4 years later after Adventure 01 in Adventure 02. Its data was not absorbed.
- Chimeramon's data may be loaded on Ichijouji's D-3, after all, he was the one who created Chimeramon.
- Apocarymon's and Machinedramon's Data may be conserved or gathered somehow by Gennai (or his corrputed copy).
- Machinedramon + Apocarymon + Chimeramon = Milleniummon. Milleniummon evolves into Zeed Milleniummon. Zeed Milleniummon = The Quantic sea and all other realities become highly endangered.
This may explain...
Why Himekawa knows Gennai and is able to travel between worlds = Like Gennai, she is also an Agent.
- Why Himekawa have Ichijouji's D-3 and why Gennai of all villians and desguises, is pretending to be the Emperor = Chimeramon, which is required for Milleniummon's formula.
- Why Machinedramon? = Machindramon is a Dark Master, The Dark Masters killed all Agents, except Gennai and Himekawa who got corrupted, Dark Master were under Apocarymon's command. Machindramon is required in Milleniummon's formula.
- Why Apocarymon? = Mastermind behind the Dark Masters. Created to ensure Milleniummon's birth which will evolve into Zeed Milleniummon. Apocarymon must be destroyed in order to get the Data also required in Millenimmon's formula.
- Apocarymon Data+ Chimeramon Data+ Machinedramon Data= Milleniummon = Zeed Milleniummon = Quantic Sea and all realities endagered = Homeostasis is on high alert = we go back to the beginning of my thesis.
- Conclussion:
The plot is trying to give birth to Zeed Milleniummon which denominated as the "Ultimate Evil" destined to destroy all realities. The only thing that I believe I haven't manege to fit in m theory is "Demiurgos", because they haven't clearly explain what the heck is that shit xD
Any question? What do you guys think? x)
Its a good theory, actually. Fun thing is: Bad feeling and malevolence actions are one of the thing that makes milleniummon to be fueled (rebirth), so, theses events on the films were actually much beneficial for him; More than most ppl imaginate. (Considering that he is actually aglomerate of every bad thing you can imaginate on one existence lol) He probably will be stronger than the last time someone met (Ryo).
Buuut. What if the actual villain is not Milleniummon, but other? Like... Ogudomon. (Or simply the Demon (Ultra-form) ) LOL Because we are clearly forgetting about Demon from the 02, who were plotting something. He can be the mastermind of everything happening right now. Like, he is doing all of that just to obtain his Ultra-form. Or... Considering the fact that he has been pushed to Dark Sea (and Dark Sea are Dagomon area, wich evolves into Leviathmon, one of the sin demon digimons), he coud've been merged with Leviathmon to transform into Ogudon on the proccess.
derikk5 Actually Demon being the Mastermind could be possible as well, since, you know... he was never "destroyed" in the 1st place. Just expelled to the Dark Area.
However, the treath of a "multiversal" level and the implication of the concept of the "Quantic Sea", Ichijouji's D-3, Gennai portraying himself as the Digimon Emperor, Machinedramon, etc... there are all hints more related to Milleniummon than any other evil Digimon. Most ppl doesn't know the background of Milleniummon, what digimon are required to form him, his relation with Apocarymon, and the relation of this with the Dark Masters, being one of this Machinedramon which required to form Milleniummon.
Plus, Ichijouji was directly involved in the 1st defeating of Milleniummon, and of all Digidestined of 02 he is the only one that has been constantly hinted about.
In addition, now that you mentioned that all the negative events of Tri, it is true that they have been leading to a series of negative feelings, despair, fear, hesitation, anger,sadness, etc... they may indeed be fuelling the Rebirth of Milleniummon, that can also explain the purpose of all this infection issue within the plot, which makes me further believe on Milleniummon being the ultimate menace in this arc.
It is quite interesting indeed :)
Ps.
In any case, nothing about any Demon Lord has been hinted so far, eventhough Daemon is one them, nothing about him has been implied as well (yet?), so I'm not very confident about Ogudomon being the last enemy.
In the same way, it is known (so far) that in order to reach his Ultra form Daemon requires Arukadhimon, which again is nowhere to be seen or hinted.
So I'm not trully sure about them... maybe in the following Ovas they revealed further information, remember that I and pretty much everybody are just making "theories" and "speculations" solely based in the current 3 Ovas aviable and there are still 3 more to come o:
Gabriel Pereira Thats true, hahaha. But the truth, there one more evil being that threats the digital world on the same scale as milleniummon; And thats Ogudomon, as i mentioned. Why? He is actually all the seventh-sins related. You would've mention the lucemon satan-form, but, fact is, its much stronger than satan form. The motive is... No one can destroy him, while the person hold any type of feeling. Lets say i would try to destroy because, "i want to protect the world. Its my job!". Well, it gets nullfied. Not actually a joke. And guess where actually Daemon got pushed back? Yup, the "Dark Sea" (what both of us mentioned), where dagomon lives; And dagomon can evolve into Leviathmon, one of the sin demons. And thoses sin's digimons can evolve into Ogudomon, if they merge with another sin's digimon (any comb can turn into it).
Or, it can be like this: Ogudomon or daemon appears; His actions leads up to milleniummon rebirth.
Ryo is canon, he was with Ken before 02. So he could appear. your theory is solid.
I think Dark Geni is actually Piedmon in disguise as they have the same personality and sick since of humor, not to mention that they are both shapeshifters.
Well we know now that in the 4th movie called Loss which is coming out on February 25th 2017 the poster features Taichi, Yamato, Sora, Hououmon and Mugendramon (Machinedramon) so Milleniumon is very possible
The thing is, machinedramon and kimeramon were resurrected as a result of the Y2K glitch, in the year 2000.
Digimon Tri. is not based in the same year.
We're talking about a Digimon that created himself in a time paradox though, a few years aren't an issue
I mean, it has being more than 10 years sinse Piedmon placed that dark spore into Gennai so who could even remember?
Your theory is pretty decent though mines a little different. This isn't the first canonical reboot to happen in the digital world. There's also the one from digital X evolution. And let's take some events from that movie to clear things up. The Royal Knights and Yggdrasil are immune to the reboot. Also digimon with the X-Antibody Virus are immune. So this would explain meikomon and the two Royal Knights. And yes I support the theory that maji is an original digidestined. Though I don't think jesmon is hers. But I do believe Ryo will return and so will zeedmillenioummon as to why machinedramon is in the next movie I say he has the X-antibody virus and was immune. And chimeramon will also return and eventually by the final movie we'll see ryu and zeedmillenioummon make their comeback in the anime.
I've had the x antibody in the back of my head also. But i haven't been 100% able to back it up..because..well..Meicoomon seems to be the only Digimon with the virus, that actually looks like a x antibody version of a Digimon.
Well there's also official X-antibody virus evolutions for each of the Royal Knights as well. So the Royal Knights could also have it. A lot if digimon who get have an evolution they get. Like wargreymon and metalgarururmon. As jesmon is fairly new and doesn't have a virus form I guess all the Royal Knights and Yggdrasil are exempt as to why Yggdrasil was still corrupted and evil after the reboot in X evolution. Because they are the admins of the digital world and probably need their levels and knowledge to run it. And I'm guessing there's a feud among the Knights currently. Like some wanted another reboot and some didn't. They could also be blaming alphamon for the virus as he has it and he might be accused of spreading it. I don't think Jesmon is evil, especially with his namesake being Jesus Christ. Jesmon's character from what we've seen so far is a chivalrous one. But he is still young and naive so he could just be against alphamon cause he's on the side accusing him of spreading the virus. What do you think?
Then why agumon and gabumon get rebooted ? Aren't they also royal knight ? Because they can form into Omegamon
I forgot about that movie! The X-anti body thing is a possibility! The only Digimon game I've ever played was the 'Digimon Masters' MMO and the ds game 'Digimon World Dawn', so I don't quite see how Ryo would actually be in it, aside from him having a tiny part in Digimon the Movie where he was watching the Digidestined's battle with Diaboromon
jedi airon there is a huge differences between a Royal Knight and a Jogress Digimon, sure they can form Omegamon, but in fact, that Omegamon isn't the one that is part of the Royal Knights, in this case the Jogress Omegamon is too far to to even assimilate the power of the RK Omegamon, and the reboot didn't effect Alphamon and Jesmon because Royal Knights usually have this power of travelling between dimensions, and we can see that in Digimon Tri with Alphamon doing that in the real world, so we can assume they travel to a dimension where the reboot didn't affect at all
About Digimon.. I think this a way for Daemon to get the Dark Spores.. If you think about it milleniumon released the dark spores in the past when he battled Ken and Ryo.. By reseting /rebooting the digital world 🌍 back to how it was like a fresh new computer 💻 factor settings.. Daemon can recreate a milleniumon or create a Zeedmilleniumon and with the same events to get the Dark Spores or recreate a digital world in his own image.. History is repeating.. This can explain a lot of things if they do this perfectly. Also Jessmon and Alphamon is the same things that going on in digimon cyber sleuth not exactly but similar. Some Royal Knights want to delete all infected digimon and other Royal Knights believe there's another way without harm.. I'm guessing Hack is for the kids and Alphamon just wants to get rid of anything that's cause trouble and damage to the digital world.... I just hope they explain who were the original digi destines.. Or this could be the story..
No don't think so Milleniumon was created in Xros wars manga the same way in the ryo games but it did not have any dark spores which was mention the the manga.
As for changing the digital world lore just change records and history also changes.
My issue is: We know the digidestined digimon are in the forest and the kids initially got no guidance because Gennai had to flee the dark masters with the eggs and crests. SO if the world reset and gennai is "evil" why are the digimon in the same place tho time around?
your theory makes perfect sense, as a big fan o Ryo Akiyama I just hope he shows up in adventure tri, besides he is the "dimensinal traveler" isn't he? so it's a long shot posibility but gosh i hope ypu're right!
I used to think the dark spore made young Gennai into an old man ... XD
I think the whole reboot thing was an elaborate ploy by a now evil Genni and whomever Maki is (i think she's the main antagonist, probably an evil digimon disguised) to cripple the original digidestined and somehow resurrect the evil digimon that have died over the past few years. The digimon are going to struggle to digivolve until they get their memories back, after all they depend on their bonds to evolve. Maki was way too happy after learning the digimon had lost their memories.
But wasn't that spore what make him look like an old... old?
This wasn't actually stated, just speculated by fans. It was just an unexplained black orb.
well i have a theory that Genai is not a bad guy and he just needed the reboot so he can give to the digimons the x antibody i noticed that meikos dark digivice had an X could meicoomon already has the x antibody?
When did the spore thing happen? I really don't remember that!
Also - if Ryo shows up to fight Milleniummon, his partner is not going to be Cyberdramon because Cyberdramon was created as a fusion of Ryo's original partner and Milleniummon... Wasn't he?
Domihork You have to rewatch to see it. It was when Homeostasis was explaining the origins of the Digidestined to the kids in season one.
That's a good question! And another set of good questions!
Ryo is in another universe!
i do like the idea of huckmon being maki's digimon and zeed mellieniumon being the main antagonist...and revealed sed manipulated all for his creation since the dark masters saga or even dark emperor saga in the next tittle... and all still end how adventures 2
man that would make the whole time paradox with ken, ryo and millenniummon even more fucked. piemon infecting gennai with the dark spore millenniummon created. and yeah that could be good for ryo to return to his own timeline. ryo is at the same age as taichi, yamato and most other children from that generation, meaning he was 11 in adventure 1, and it's stated that in tamers ryo is 14, taichi, yamato, sora, jo, koshiro and mimi were 14 in adventure 2 meaning that the events in tamers took place in the same time as in adventure 2. taichi and the others are 17 in tri so yeah ryo could return since his mission in the tamers timeline is over
I think Mil is the Big bad, the Dark Masters are his Generals, Maki and Gennai are both under a form of possession. The 02 kids are imprisoned within the DW.
I think demon could be envolved as he was after the black seed planted in ken's neck
what do you think?
My guess is that spore is what turned him super old. He died so the spore did too.
what if later in the movies, omnimon managed to evolve further and turned to alphamon. And what if his main enemy is millenniummon.
And what if he sends alphamon back in time back to the beginning of tri movie. alphamon knowing that meicoomon started everything tries to destroy him but the Digi destined arrive and omnimon fights alphamon.
Really good theory please keep it up! :)
I thought in season 1 of the original Digimon the old man was the one fighting the Dark Masters so i really sure that what you are saying is 100% not right
i think that maybe himekawa is the main villain since she is always grinned mysteriously, right??
I love Ryo. but tamers destroy him. I think is highly probable. since you can see the kids forget abou Ken and the 02 kids, like what happened to Ryo before. And with the homeostasis confirming the existence of other worlds. is possible that Ryo is in the tamers universe. since the show the book with the tamers song title and because this is an anniversary series I don't think it doesn't mean a thing. they put it there for a reason. also there is the theory that gennai is Ryo or ryo's clone . I don't think Maki is one of the original digidestined mainly because I still have hopes they are the frontier kids. but I do believe she is good. she is making everyone think she is the bad for a reason. I feel she is like Tony stark in civil war, doing all this for a greatest good.
I kinda wonder, if Gennai is evil- Why he helped them digivolve? It was LITERALLY his point in the prophecy! Making them go through bad stuff so they can go to mega.
Hmmm... Now that I think of it... Maybe he unlocked it for later taking control over them with the infection?
He also was the one that made them loss there mega forms for the digital world and got then got them back.
if she is one of the original digidestend could it be that their digimon became the royal knights
not played the games but any chance this version of the digimon emperor is similar to the one that ryo had to fight when he fought the other clones?
Why not just put another dark spore on maki once she's in contact?
Isn't that Kens digivice? Is Tamers connected to Adventure? Somebody please explain this to me because I'm really confused right now after watching the 3rd movie of tri.
what do you mean tamers???
that digivice is from digimon adventure 02 not digimon tamers 😑
Fredrick Aleksander I was referring to Ryo, not the digivice because I'm not much familiar with his character except from Tamers. I'm already aware bout the digivice from Adventure 2. I was just wondering how the heck did that woman get it.
Ryo is a big character in some of the games, and if you watched Digimon Adventure 02 there's a flashback from when Ken was younger and you could see him travelling the Digital World with Ryo.
+Brandon Scott ryo is dimension traveler , so he can connect to every digimon season
Basically there is a connection to the Wonderswan games which are canon to Adventure 02 where...
Machinedramon + Chimairamon in their dying forms DNA digivolve and essentially takes his revenge out on the Digi-Destined by kidnapping them and I won't go into the whole thing because it's very long to explain. Basically Agumon is the only one to escape with Tai's digivice and calls for help to which only Ryo responds. Ultimately there are multiple showdowns in which Milenniummon is defeated one of which unleashing the dark spores on Ken. In the Final Encounter Xeedmilleniummon is shown to be able to erase any digital beings from existence with one attack.
What if the 02 cast, and Ryu are being held prisoner?
your content is very good you should have more subs.
If they do the next movies perfectly definitely Digimon Tri can possibly get a series season similar to Dragon Ball Super. Theirs so many unsolved About Digimon... Who are the other original digi destines?I thought the voice that took over Kari was spirit of her Mega digimon Ophanimon. But God's of the Digital World is Yggdrasill and Huanglongmon share the title of "God of the Digital World" with God.
Actually not entirely true "homeostasis" is god in season 1 and he was named dropped in the movie itself when kari was possesed
in the adventure novel homeostasis was the one who took over Hikari.
In Xros Wars homeostasis is the new god after the last god Yggdrasill was gone.
In Savers we learn about Yggdrasill.
So it was god who took over Hikari
Yeah they flat out said that in the movie when maki was explaining
They did I haven't seen the movie yet.
Oh...well your good then everybody else here seems like they havent either or else they are completely ignoring that part
Hah i just noticed some real details here watching the video and listening to ryo's backstory what if ryo is geni same hair style when younger and same eyes and the dark copys happened to ryo so what if ryo is fighting another bad copy of himself but the ryo i mean is more so the past ryo before he becomes geni it seems right if he is permanently linked to millenniummon then why cant he have become purely digital himself or made his own copys of himself to watch the digital world when he isnt there and the ageing makes sense if milleniummon took them to the past and or future then the copies make total sense if he needed to make sure anyone could get the info before he left the time he was sent to
but if gennai get corrupted by piemon dark spore why he didnt get infected by it before by the time when he did get it why he get infected by it now
Well the seed was planted back in season 1. Millenniummon could gave triggered the virus at anytime, my guess.. he was waiting for the perfect moment..or waiting until he was strong enough
oh thats make sense same as you said maybe until he was strong enough
0:36 That is not Gennai, that is Marcus Damon's dad in his 20s.
They do look alot alike (if you look past the hair color, which could be dyed). Maybe Ryo\Gennai is his dad.
That makes Marcus Damon descended from pure awesomeness
what if Ryo is Gennai???
Ryo is gennai isn't it obvious they look clmpletelt the same and ryo is human that tkme travel thru the digital world
i thought that black spore is what made him an old man.
guys dont forget crest of kindness, that ken belonging,
This is kinda off, for starters black spores come after adventures 01, somewhere in between 02 and 01, secondly Millneumon was already defeated, even if the digital reset no of the event that lead to his birth would happen
What Digimon show was millenniumon was defeated.
games, comics etc. Ryo is in the wonderswan games
Theres no need for any such event to happen to him to be rebirth, actually. He actually were born from malignance from the others digimons (or even humans), such as bad actions, feelings, etc. So, as long thoses things exists, he can still come back, no matter what. So, i wont be surprised if Meicoomon turn into him, considering her plot on the story.
Wargreymon X He was defeated in games by Ryo
derikk5 Are you sure about that, from what I know about him, that I've never heard
it's pronounced "Jen-nai" not Gennai
they even pronounce it in the dub
Genai is right
Yggy and another evil plan...yay.
The woman in black looks like digglers wife from Arrow.
people be hating ryo like they hate on 02. only difference is that one is brought much in terms of story to the world while the other is a shit sequel.
Gennai is just corrupted and I think Meikuumon is the key to getting him back to normal.
Who's this Ryo?
ur saying gennai wrong
That's the pronunciation in the original Japanese version and in tri. (with the hard g). Gennai like Jedi was used in the earlier English dub.
AAAAAAAND it was wrong xD
This guy is mispronouncing the names
peedmon
Turns out it was all just simply bad writing in the end.
Regardless of what they do with dark gennai its not gonna make up for him being a chore to watch in the first 5 movies he was in.
The worst part definetly has to be the Digimon Emperor costume that he uses for no reason except for the fact that he likes it and its fanservice.
Digimon Tri really loves to act like 02 didnt happen while also shoving the Digimon Emperor in our face all the time with dark gennai who isnt half the character ken was.
Wish they wouldnt waste resources on this anymore, they already gave them a barebones budget and shitty staff so why bother.
I hope that someday we can get another digimon series with normal evolutions, Xros wars wasnt horrible but the evolution sequences failed to build the usual hype as digimons didnt have fixed levels and there was little reward for the emotional growth of characters.
Tri didnt even bother with the whole growth thing instead gave us tai "dying" only to bring him back and make everyone seem surprised.
Lastly Mei didnt even do anything despite the movie series being her introduction.
I love Ryo. but tamers destroy him. I think is highly probable. since you can see the kids forget abou Ken and the 02 kids, like what happened to Ryo before. And with the homeostasis confirming the existence of other worlds. is possible that Ryo is in the tamers universe. since the show the book with the tamers song title and because this is an anniversary series I don't think it doesn't mean a thing. they put it there for a reason. also there is the theory that gennai is Ryo or ryo's clone . I don't think Maki is one of the original digidestined mainly because I still have hopes they are the frontier kids. but I do believe she is good. she is making everyone think she is the bad for a reason. I feel she is like Tony stark in civil war, doing all this for a greatest good.