It's absolutely interesting. As student of Literature, mainly Literary Theory, it's great to find videos like this because we can have a different view of the theory, the post colonialist side. Thank you from sharing!
I worked for the narratological research project where the Living Handbook of Narratology was planned and published, in fact my doctoral supervisor is one of the editors of the handbook. We also made a conference were David Herman was one of the keynote speakers. I have just recently come across your channel and I really like your content, especially on post-colonial topics. Thank you very much indeed for your work!
@@masoodraja Yes, Herman is one of the most important American narratologist of the newer generation, Seymour Chatman and Dorrit Cohn being those of the older generation. Cognitive narratology is indeed a very interesting recent spin off of narratology. My professor and I have worked with it in our project, especially with the concepts of frames and scripts and their connection with themes and plot structures within narrative texts.
@@masoodraja Yes, Lakoff for the concept of frames, Schank and Abelson for the concept of scripts. Schank has written a very interesting book called „Tell me a Story: Narrative and Intelligence“. Apart from that all the important articles and books on cognitive narratology are quoted in Hermans article on this topic in the Living Handbook. My professor, my colleagues and I have made practical use of these concepts in a book called „Eventfulness in British Fiction“.
I appreciate your introduction to cognitive narratology. I was previously unaware of the term. I am just beginning to research the topic. Reading satirical novelist Terry Pratchett's description of "narrative causation" is what first drew my interest. I am a retired "senior" who has just enrolled in a graduate seminar on social theory in preparation to enter a PhD program next year. I am simply amazed at the amount of pertinent information that is available online. Thank you for your suggested links.
@Rick Diamond - have you started your PhD yet? I'm also a senior (just had my 61st birthday) who is doing a PhD part time. I'm looking at the Middlebrow novels of the first half of the 2oth century. Just coming up to my first APR and really struggling. Hope you're doing well with your research.
@honeychurchgipsy6 Thank you for asking. I am not in a degree program. I am auditing a class in social movements and working on my own project involving the influence of Japanese otaku culture on Western youth. I am also working part-time at the local libatary. I just turned 72 and am recovering from a very tough graduate history seminar last semester that nearly burned me out.
@@rickdiamond9288 - sounds interesting and I hope you've recovered from last semester. yesterday I read a story about a 76 year old man who just received his PhD from Bristol university, after 50 years - lol!! He did 5 years on it back in the 70's and then left without finishing. He got back into academic studying with an MA in 2016 - same year that I started my MA. His story gave me hope!!
Herman did mention Goffman and Minsky as the two very important predecessors of cognitive narratology and cognitive poetics. Both Goffman and Labov were crucial in pumping this new blood in narrative theory/narratology, that many saw as some kind of a sterile tool after the heyday of structuralism, that eventually led to people like Monika Fludernik, David Herman, Peter Stockwell, etc. At least it seems they were. I don't know if we are aware of that fact enough.
@@masoodraja Erving Goffman was both social cognitive scientist and sociolinguist, he always crosses my mind whenever i am thinking and talking about cognitive approach in literary studies. And William Labov's model of natural narrative - orientation, coda, etc certainly served as an inspiration for Monika Fludernik's own version of cognitive narratology - natural narratology, among others. Both she and Michael Toolan mention him in their narratology introductory textbooks.
@@masoodraja thank you. I try, because their work is so damn interesting. Goffman was one of the main intellectual giants of second twentieth century, comparable to Clifford Geertz, for example. And Monika Fludernik ( and David Herman) is comparable, speaking of her intellectual abilities, to great scholars such were the so called "oralists" - Jack Goody and Walter Ong.
I have watched your videos on narratology and then on cognitive narratology. they were very usefull. thank you so much. I am an MA student of english literature and I want to use cognitive narratology by david herman as my approach to analyze a novel as a thesis. and I already read herman's article too. but unfortunately I can't find any specific framework in order to know how to apply this approach and how it can analyze a novel. can you please instruct me?
@@masoodraja thank you for answering. however, I didn't expect you to help me in my individual project. instead I wanted to know if you can introduce us some sources about how we can work with this approach. because your recommended article of david herman was only about the benefits of cognitive approach and there was nothing helpfull about how we can read a novel based on this approach. is there any framework and instruction by david herman on cognitive narratology at all?
Thank you. My point is that I don’t teach about frameworks etc; that is mostly social sciences methodology adopted by English departments in Pakistan and India. So, to use any theory what I recommend is to explain your theory and then see how it can help you analyze a text.
Hello sir. I have one question. Please take a look. Whether post Colonialism is a theory or a method of study while focusing the sentence "Post Colonialism is democratic egalitarianism that refuses to impose the alienating western ways of thinking on tricontinental societies ".
Thank you. I am guessing this is either an exam question or part of an assignment. I am sorry, I cannot answer such questions. You are welcome to read, especially Robert Young, and that should enable you to answer such questions.
It's very helpful and easy to understand. Thanks for your explanation.
You are welcome.
It's absolutely interesting. As student of Literature, mainly Literary Theory, it's great to find videos like this because we can have a different view of the theory, the post colonialist side. Thank you from sharing!
Glad it was helpful!
I worked for the narratological research project where the Living Handbook of Narratology was planned and published, in fact my doctoral supervisor is one of the editors of the handbook. We also made a conference were David Herman was one of the keynote speakers. I have just recently come across your channel and I really like your content, especially on post-colonial topics. Thank you very much indeed for your work!
Thank you so much. And thank you for your work with the project. I am just beginning to learn the significance of David Herman’s work!!
@@masoodraja Yes, Herman is one of the most important American narratologist of the newer generation, Seymour Chatman and Dorrit Cohn being those of the older generation. Cognitive narratology is indeed a very interesting recent spin off of narratology. My professor and I have worked with it in our project, especially with the concepts of frames and scripts and their connection with themes and plot structures within narrative texts.
Great!! Please share if you have any links. I know framing from Lackoff’s work but would love to explore more.
@@masoodraja Yes, Lakoff for the concept of frames, Schank and Abelson for the concept of scripts. Schank has written a very interesting book called „Tell me a Story: Narrative and Intelligence“. Apart from that all the important articles and books on cognitive narratology are quoted in Hermans article on this topic in the Living Handbook. My professor, my colleagues and I have made practical use of these concepts in a book called „Eventfulness in British Fiction“.
Thank you. I will certainly check out the books!!
I appreciate your introduction to cognitive narratology. I was previously unaware of the term. I am just beginning to research the topic. Reading satirical novelist Terry Pratchett's description of "narrative causation" is what first drew my interest. I am a retired "senior" who has just enrolled in a graduate seminar on social theory in preparation to enter a PhD program next year. I am simply amazed at the amount of pertinent information that is available online. Thank you for your suggested links.
Thank you so much and welcome!!
@Rick Diamond - have you started your PhD yet? I'm also a senior (just had my 61st birthday) who is doing a PhD part time. I'm looking at the Middlebrow novels of the first half of the 2oth century. Just coming up to my first APR and really struggling. Hope you're doing well with your research.
@honeychurchgipsy6 Thank you for asking. I am not in a degree program. I am auditing a class in social movements and working on my own project involving the influence of Japanese otaku culture on Western youth. I am also working part-time at the local libatary. I just turned 72 and am recovering from a very tough graduate history seminar last semester that nearly burned me out.
@@rickdiamond9288 - sounds interesting and I hope you've recovered from last semester. yesterday I read a story about a 76 year old man who just received his PhD from Bristol university, after 50 years - lol!! He did 5 years on it back in the 70's and then left without finishing. He got back into academic studying with an MA in 2016 - same year that I started my MA. His story gave me hope!!
Lord bless you, dear mentor! Regards
You are welcome.
Great video. Thanks.
You are welcome.
Herman did mention Goffman and Minsky as the two very important predecessors of cognitive narratology and cognitive poetics. Both Goffman and Labov were crucial in pumping this new blood in narrative theory/narratology, that many saw as some kind of a sterile tool after the heyday of structuralism, that eventually led to people like Monika Fludernik, David Herman, Peter Stockwell, etc. At least it seems they were. I don't know if we are aware of that fact enough.
Thank you. That adds more to my reading list:))
@@masoodraja Erving Goffman was both social cognitive scientist and sociolinguist, he always crosses my mind whenever i am thinking and talking about cognitive approach in literary studies. And William Labov's model of natural narrative - orientation, coda, etc certainly served as an inspiration for Monika Fludernik's own version of cognitive narratology - natural narratology, among others. Both she and Michael Toolan mention him in their narratology introductory textbooks.
Thank you so much. Your knowledge is certainly more extensive than mine.
@@masoodraja thank you. I try, because their work is so damn interesting. Goffman was one of the main intellectual giants of second twentieth century, comparable to Clifford Geertz, for example. And Monika Fludernik ( and David Herman) is comparable, speaking of her intellectual abilities, to great scholars such were the so called "oralists" - Jack Goody and Walter Ong.
@@coltthestarsheriff3544 Great. Yes, Ong I am pretty familiar with. Thank you so much for sharing.
Great
Thanks.
Sir do a video on gramchi's theory of hegemony & integral state.
Please watch the video on Hegemony and dominance; it explains Gramsci.
@@masoodraja sir please share link
Please search the terms on the channel and it will show up; I will have to do the same.
@@masoodraja I have found thanks❤️❤️
I have watched your videos on narratology and then on cognitive narratology. they were very usefull. thank you so much. I am an MA student of english literature and I want to use cognitive narratology by david herman as my approach to analyze a novel as a thesis. and I already read herman's article too. but unfortunately I can't find any specific framework in order to know how to apply this approach and how it can analyze a novel. can you please instruct me?
Thank you so much. Unfortunately, I cannot help with individual projects. I think it is fair to expect that kind of guidance from your own professors.
@@masoodraja thank you for answering. however, I didn't expect you to help me in my individual project. instead I wanted to know if you can introduce us some sources about how we can work with this approach. because your recommended article of david herman was only about the benefits of cognitive approach and there was nothing helpfull about how we can read a novel based on this approach. is there any framework and instruction by david herman on cognitive narratology at all?
Thank you. My point is that I don’t teach about frameworks etc; that is mostly social sciences methodology adopted by English departments in Pakistan and India. So, to use any theory what I recommend is to explain your theory and then see how it can help you analyze a text.
Hello sir.
I have one question. Please take a look.
Whether post Colonialism is a theory or a method of study while focusing the sentence "Post Colonialism is democratic egalitarianism that refuses to impose the alienating western ways of thinking on tricontinental societies ".
Thank you. I am guessing this is either an exam question or part of an assignment. I am sorry, I cannot answer such questions. You are welcome to read, especially Robert Young, and that should enable you to answer such questions.
@@masoodraja thank you sir for helping. This is enough 🙏
Hello sir
Hello.