Why Sith Acolytes Were Often Stronger Than Jedi Masters - Star Wars Old Republic
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- Explore the differences in training methods between the Sith and Jedi in the Old Republic. Discover how the Sith's survival-based approach to training their acolytes led to them becoming stronger than Jedi Masters. Learn how the Jedi's close attachment to their masters during training and lack of desire for power compared to the Sith's hunger for knowledge and power.
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Why were Sith Acolytes of the Sith Empire often stronger than Jedi Masters? The Old Republic training methods of the Sith were vastly different from those of the Jedi. Dark Lords would send acolytes into the universe with only enough training to survive. This method was designed to make them stronger by leading them along, feeding their hunger for more knowledge and power. And it kept the master alive longer. Failure in this training usually resulted in death or torture at the hands of their master.
Jedi Padawans were closely attached to their masters during training and not sent out on their own until they had proven they were ready. Most Jedi Knights were satisfied with that rank and had no desire to become a master. Sith Acolytes, on the other hand, were power-hungry and would do anything to earn the title of Dark Lord of the Sith. - Krátké a kreslené filmy
Jedi: peaceful and content
Sith: IT'S ABOUT DRIVE, IT'S ABOUT POWER, WE STAY HUNGRY, WE DEVOUR-
Corny
PUT IN THE WORK, PUT IN THE HOURS AND TAKE WHATS OURS!!
So basically the jedi don't have the will to self improve and the sith wanna get better and stronger and once again I ask why are the Jedi the heroes ?
@@troupemastergrimm6861 Hi, local nerd here and to answer you question, neither the Jedi nor the Sith are really "heroes" in any sense of the word. Both sides are basically two opposing extremes.
The Jedi think that cutting themselves from emotions that everyone naturally feels like love, hate, greed and the such is the right path because force sensitives are capable of terrible things when they overindulge. Their right, but also wrong because in denying their emotions they deny what makes them people and that usually ends with them living lonely, solitary lives despite wanting otherwise.
On the other hand, the Sith think that experiencing everything and indulging in every innate desire is the way to go because the emotions generally empower force users and the Sith seek freedom and control through power. Their right, but also wrong as well they allow themselves to feel too much and usually leads to a lot of needless death and suffering because Sith tend to be selfish and self serving.
Hope this answered your question. Local nerd out.
They literally devoured planets.😊
Shows that the Sith could beat the Jedi, if only they could beat their own self-interests & worked together without backstab & betrayal, they could have ruled the galaxy for thousands of years.
Then again, that's the thing with evil: it consumes itself.
Edit: You can tell people are interested in this, there are new replies after a year.
If they could work together without back stabbing each other - then they wouldn't be Sith.
It's a bit like that old what if question… Could the Germans have won WW2?
And the best answer is that the Nazis could have won … if they _hadn't behaved like Nazis._
@@casbot71
Could the Germans have won WW2?
If they focused everything they had on taking Britain, not invading the USSR & not declaring war on USA - then yes, they likely would have won... until Adolf was killed / died & all of Europe rebelled against them.
i sincerely believe that had Sidious let Plagueis live and worked with him, the empire would’ve ruled forever
@@casbot71 that is irrelevant and not similar
Just like from my favorite Star Wars novels the darth of bane trilogy He talks about the ideology of the siff and how The brotherhood Moved away from The old ways of the Sith Like revan Auntie talks about how Khan's brotherhood it is making the sith Which is why they were never able to beat the jedi Because they water down their numbers and And therefore got weaker as a whole Bane Saw this flaw and fixed her Only 2 there should be Is a master and apprentice One to embodie power the other to crave it And only the strongest We'll live to go on and pass on the knowledge of their master And Bane knew with each new master and apprentice the Sith would become infinitely stronger and he knew that 1 day they would destroy the jedi he didn't know if he would live to see it but he knew it would happen Thus the 1000 years of sick planning And it would be executed by Darth sidious And it worked he became the emperor
*Sith Master [to apprentice]:* And your driving goal should be to kill me [cough cough], I mean _not_ kill me …and in fact protect my life at all cost.
It is treason then.
😂😂😂
Actually they said that: "You either kill me or I kill you for failure" . "So train hard and be loyal dear apprentice" . "Any questions?"
@@lupohutchington269
When the lunch break starts ?
a certain apprentice:- welcome home [proceed to kill his master]
Basically the Sith were all about maxing that grind
Sigma master
Sith all Gigachads
@@Ronin3453 And similarly like to shoot themselves in the foot.
@@wastrelperv A true sigma embraces the pain, the grind, the hustle.
@@Ronin3453 Most "true sigmas" would be grinding, not on CZcams comments.
The Sith got that drip too
Yes they do indeed got that drip
You either drip or drown (idk why im here i dont even really watch star wars)
@@najmifarhan6052
You should read up on some of the Lore, truly interesting stuff
fax
Fr Fr
Sith Lord: *Tosses Apprentice into the wild to die*
Also Sith Lord: *Punishes apprentice for failing to get stronger after surviving*
Barbaric, but you'll create very powerful warriors. The more cruel you are, and the more danger you put them in, the stronger the warrior will be if he survives.
But at that point, it's just survivorship bias at work.
@Shane DSouza if by survivorship bias you mean survival of the fittest, yes. That's kind of the entire point. That's not really bias, that's just people not being up to the task.
@@shootaman2 except a trained person defeats an untrained person even if the untrained person is "hungry"
@n k ... yes. I'm not sure why you're bringing that up, as if I said anything different.
Put it this way. Train two people as soldiers, the same combat training, fitness regiments etc. One of them only works out and does combat drills, eats 3 good meals a day, and sleeps in a king bed every night. The other does the same combat training, but also does regular survivorship training, wilderness survival etc. Which is the better warrior?
Another example. Take a rich kid, never been in a fight, never skipped a meal, doesn't know what a tent is, and has never even cooked a meal. Then take a kid that's grown up on the streets, fighting for everything he has, and has always had to do everything himself. Which will make the better warrior?
The point is filtering out the weak who have no survival skills or any real fight in them, and leaving the ones who already have the mentality to fight and survive. Nobody said they'll fight hungry and untrained, moron.
When your choices are grow or die, most will try to grow. The fear of being killed is a pretty good motivator, as the sith have shown. After you get to the top, you need to keep going to prevent those around and below you from catching up to you.
George Lucas: No, but quicker, easier, more seductive.
Legends authors: And I took that personally.
Pfft! Wait i don't think that joke fully meshes! There's a difference between the dark side being more powerful then the light and a sith being more powerful than the jedi. Really jusr aounds like skill issue for the pseudo pacifists
I mean you can't really say it's not stronger when it's kicking everybodies ass. What Jedi don't get is that "being one with the Force" isn't a Light Side thing, it's just a Force thing. Dark is definitely stronger than Light. Dark is all consuming. Dark came before the Light. We don't got no chicken or egg situation here.
When it’s a 1v1 Sith are definitely individually stronger, but as a group the Jedi were always superior.
Jedi’s tend to have better foresight with force, and had better synergy. Which allowed for better cooperation. Which is tactically superior to treating a battle as an individual effort in most cases.
In addition, Jedi’s were more willing to put their lives on the line to accomplish a mission or goal. As opposed to a Sith, if they deem a battle as a lost cause they’ll just ditch their group for survival.
@@OG-ColorfulAbyss. Jedi had better abilities to directly counter or Defend against Dark Side abilities.
@@uhohcuzzo whereas a lot of super powerful Sith are just seemingly immune to the power of lesser Sith, so..
the armor concept art is ridiculously cool.. why disney isnt properly investing in a old republic film series is beyond me
They've already destroyed the IP, don't give them any more ideas. The IP is already dead. They need to sell it and let someone else resurrect it.
lmao you want disney to ruin the old republic era too
@@user-wr6dj4ib9othey released a time line for movies like with Rey and her temple, and they brought up the high republic era for movies too so we might be SOL there my friend
Trust me when I say Its better for ALL of us that Di$ney keeps their Slimy disgusting claws off of the Old Republic. For now we must bide our time until star wars is under a new company that actually appreciates and loves Star wars. Then it will be safe to make an Old Republic Game that is hopefully done the RIGHT way.
Oh they would just ruin it like they did with the main franchise plus that old republic book they put out was hot garbage a talking rock seriously?!
SWTOR showcased that so well, there was _always_ rivalry amongst the Sith. Sometimes it even seemed as if there was more Sith boss fights than Jedi boss fights while playing the Warrior or Inquisitor. At the end of the day it was that trait that made the Sith Empire able to sack the Jedi Temple on Coruscant.
The sith in the old republic were so badass. Bring back the dark council
A chick that has not left the nest shall never conquer the sky.
That's why Wrath was feared by the Dark Council and Darth Viciate himself. He knew , keep your friends close but your potential destroyer closer.
I don't think Vitiate feared anyone or anything. To his very last moment he saw himself as absolute and beyond just talent, he that Wrath as useful and the only individual he ever considered to be close to his equal was the stranger and even then, when he was about to be destroyed he belived himself to be stronger (and that was the case, don't get me wrong)
Who? I’m not familiar with that individual.
@@daydreamdirtyI believe he means Emperor's Wrath, the Sith player character in SWTOR
@@zenmoshi9806 and Scourge. He’s even in a book so that really details it a lot better for those who haven’t played the game and can’t be asked going through the painful process of figuring out how to make the UI tolerable.
@@daydreamdirtyif you mean Vitiate basically think Palpatine times a million.
*Jedi after their padawan betrays them:* “Why did you do this!? You’re supposed to destroy the sith not join them!”
*Sith after their apprentice betrays them:* “I’m so proud of you!”
But they failed at betrayed: FAILURE!!
You know, I actually find the Sith one wholesome if it happened right.
The Sith ideology is about getting stronger. Deceit isn't that, it's just people being people and wanting to short track things.
I imaginr out there in those eras there would be at least a few honest Sith who follow through with the Teachings and declare a formal challenge with their masters. No tricks, nor cheats. A good fashioned test of skill and strength.
When the Apprentice succeeds, the Master then congratulates them with their dying breaths with all the pride of a harsh, but fair parent.
😂😂😂 I guess two wrongs do make a right for the sith.
Reminds of Maul treating Ezra as an apprentice in Rebels.
Maul: "What knowledge do you seek from the holocrons?"
Ezra: "You know what I want. How to destroy the Sith."
Maul: "You're as ambitious as ever!"
In the Darth Bane books Bane got pissed at his apprentice because she didn’t try to kill him
Well, there's also the fact that Jedi training was very limited and not directly martial, whereas the Sith valued physical and martial strength and put no limitations of what aspects of the force their apprentices could study.
That doesnt necessarily explain anything actually. It's a better explaination to say that 1: there were frequently less Sith than jedi because 2: the Sith prioritized the ability to do violence and hold power over others over discipline, knowledge, or wisdom. Sith acolytes who were not innately more talented at violence and survivability were killed. That's it, it's not that they were innately more powerful or that their training was better. Rather the training just killed off the weaker ones. So if you see a Sith they're more likely to be better warriors because being able to kill things is *far* more important to success as a Sith than as a jedi. A jedi can be a mediocre warrior and still be an accomplished diplomat, seer, healer, advisor, scientist etc. Jedi simply have a broader range of responsibilities. In a word survivorship bias. You see the terrifying Sith warrior in front of you cutting down a jedi master and her two padawans, you don't see the hundred dead acolytes who were driven mad or killed by the wild beasts of a thousand other worlds that were the equivalent of those padawans.
True, also they would tend to have more experience as a result of how they were trained which makes a massive difference in a fight. Relatively speaking it could be compared to the difference between a veteran and a complete rookie in battle - the veteran can lose, whether cus of luck,over confidence, etc but more often then not they will win
You also don't see the amount of experimental procedures said Sith go through as, often enough, they were used as guinea pigs by their masters. For every one of them that succeeded and survived, add another thousand that lost their minds, were crippled or, if they were lucky, died.
You started off with a decent paragraph and then you took a total dump. The training of the sith was nothing but rage, the hatred of weakness, fear of death, and lust for ultimate power. They were tested ruthlessly and forged into elite weapons.
it does explain it though. ones training is "only the strongest survive" while the other is "anybody can do it, we hold your hands throughout." the first results in a more cutthroat, merciless warrior. while the other results in many more warriors, but less powerful.
Pretty sure sith are also just stronger simply because there’s only a few of them using the dark side of the force and there’s not thousands of them using the same power source like the jedi…not really sure if that’s true but I read it somewhere as another reason for the rule of 2.
Also people tend to forget that the Sith are drawing from the dark side... by tapping their emotions... Jedi on the other hands were tapping into the light side through being calm and centered... you can only become so calm, but you can always become more angry. The power you could take from the Dark Side had no limit.
If malgus was actually allowed to rule the sith empire and enact his reforms they'd of been unstoppable
Basically, Sith had Spartan training while Jedi had Athenian training.
I do believe Jedi Shadow Sentinels would’ve been able to easily counter most of the Sith back in those days as they were trained field agents specifically trained to hunt down dark side users and apprehend or eliminate them - not to mention they were basically Jedi SpecOps trained in a variety of survival skills, espionage, and sabotage tactics on top of their normal Jedi training and they were generally just better at everything as they understood both the Light and Dark sides of the Force.
(I don’t know if they were around then but they were during the clone wars and if they were allowed to do anything the Jedi would’ve easily won - but that was just one of the many tactical blunders of the council during that era).
Spartans were trained as a team,a single unit. one weak soldier would shatter the Phalanx formation. Siths were trained to be individual warriors/ duelists/ space wizards who are specialize on fighting alone
@@shenzhendrake2429
I was mainly stating that they were synonymous in terms of severity rather than the actual curriculum used therein.
That would be awesome to see a horror star wars film about the Shadows.
@@Abracastabya Spartans weren't quite that brutal. I think people underestimate how incompetent and tyrannical Athens is alot. As well as how active their propaganda machine was. Spartans did not really expand till their short-lived golden age basically because they did not want to. Also, this is just funk a jedi master will tear apart most acolytes. Acolytes will likely beat padawans, but Jedi knights is pushing it. acolyte training more like surviving till adulthood in a satanic cult. Most won't make it. the ones that do are likely psychopathic and ruthless.
@@kieranforde3787The Spartans were more brutal than anyone gives them credit for. They’re entire society was a warrior society. Babies were strong enough to wield the shield and spear or they were killed. Not to mention they had an entire caste who served as slaves. These were the helots, the original inhabitants around Sparta. They were bred to become slaves and never to be free men. People mainly focus on their heroics at Thermopylae, which wasn’t even their prize to entirely claim. It was their pride as warriors and the thought of glorious death that drove them to stay, not “we’ll buy you more time to warn everyone”. Athenians were no different. They controlled their empire with an iron fist. It was no coalition or league. Members paid taxes to Athens and those that rebelled were crushed. The Greeks as a whole were a bunch of warrior assholes.
Because the Sith focus on short term power, while the Jedi focus on long-term enlightenment.
On blindness. If somone thing that Sith only wanted quick boost, that person does not know anything about sith.
@@yourgodemperorofeverything1354
Being a Sith is about gaining power for sake of gaining power. Being a Jedi is about maintaining the status quo at all costs.
@@wesleywallace4426 Being sith is gaining power to gain ultimate freedom, being able to rise above everything and be free from any chains that could bound you. To trascendent, thanks to the force. Like, their whole code tells us that.
Short term? Nah the goal was as long term as it can be, to gain ultimate power and completely dominate the force to the degree that one could become a god like being to rule the galaxy. That may be a little dramatic but at the end of the day, being the absolute top of the food chain so to speak was the goal of the Sith
@@yourgodemperorofeverything1354 It was all about personal liberation only, which prevented effective cooperation between the Sith over and over again and let to most their states and socieites being opressive and more totalitarian than the republic.
As a SW nerd playing SWTOR so I can RP a sith it’s so sad to see that nobody realizes this. All the RP guilds have you do the same basic training that Padawans do at the ages of 5 - 7 but they act like they’re some all powerful empire of evil geniuses
Stronger than Jedi Masters, weaker than Republic Soldiers💀
they were buffing the muscles!
And that was before the Rule of Two, so for the most part the Sith Empire wanted its agents to be as strong as possible in order to enact the Sith Grand Plan.
“Most Jedi Knights were satisfied with that rank, and had no desire to become a master”…
Anakin: What?! That’s outrageous!
Well, what do you know :DDD
@@Artaxerxes. Dax!
It was a quality over quantity. Most Jedi survive training, even if they are weaker in the Force. As long they are good enough they graduated and became knights. Sith on the other hand compete against against each other in their academies. Less students survive, most being maimed or dying along the way. The strong dominate the weak, they fight to kill, and their ambition drives them to be better than any threat they could face.
TL:DR:
Jedi strive to be good enough.
Sith strive to be the best.
There is also the misunderstood premise that Jedi masters are supposed to be strong. But the definition Jedi use for strong can be anything, strong in strategy/understanding/conflict resolution etc. all these are paths to Jedi masters can take, while the sith only provided one path, violence.
Sith: Bro you won't grind?
Jedi Padawans: Nah we got the power of plot with us
It's because you didn't have to be good at using the force to fight to become a Jedi Master. You could be a Jedi who just focuses on healing or using the force to make art or music or just be a Master of Battle Meditation. Even in Luke's Jedi order there were Jedi who had no martial skills at all
I can't wait for The Acyolytes to come out to see something before the skywalker era. Don't get me wrong I've loved everything I've seen but finally, something before any of that. But i'm also really looking forward to Ahsoka and Mandalorian season 3 for sure too
this is the first time I've heard of something called "The Acolytes" it seems that i haven't been as active recently
Ha ha ha ha….
Lol, this did not age well
@@user-db4zi3mw9x it did though cause I don't mind the show. I don't get why it's getting so much hate
You know your sith when:
You skip tutorials.
Never read the instructions.
Always win at monopoly.
Jedi: learn how to keep peace
Sith: train for killing anything
The reason why Cal is pretty cracked symbolizes that Jedi that learned survival will become very ve try powerful, as it also works for Ahsoka
Swtor to this day is the best way to immerse yourself into Star Wars. I really started thinking like a Sith Lord while playing 😂😂 Ego was >>>>
Sith: Motivated
Jedi: Mommas Boys with no desire for improvement.
Quite frankly, one is a warrior and the other is a monk. One lives for conflict, the other for peace.
Jedi: The Roleplayers
Sith: The Asmongoloids
Makes me want to start my 999th play through as a sith Warrior
Infighting was actually encouraged by the Sith empire and ultimately the Sith empire saw this as for every master or apprentice who died would be replaced with a stronger Sith who would fulfill the dead masters or apprentice roles better. Add in their training was meant to strengthen their connection to the dark side which was generally combat training that mostly was a case of live or die. Also consider unlike the modern empire the sith actively seeked to expand their ranks and were open to pretty any force sensitive that showed promise this included slaves. Where as the average jedi trained for mastery and strengthening their connection to the force its never for the sake of power ideally and generally most jedi who showed the potential to grow stronger eventually peaked do to limited growth or became outcasts because their power lead them to the dark side which was rather banished outright or executed by jedi sentinels whos goal was to hunt any signs of the dark side. This meant most jedi while very much dangerous to some extent had an upper limit sense the strongest jedi at the time were prodigies which is not normal. Not every jedi could be to the same level as luke revan or palpatine and it was not expected of them where as the sith expected absolute perfection or you would die. So ultimately id say its a combination of enviorment and training as well as a strong encouragement for self improvement via strengthening their connection to the darkside at all costs or playing the corporate ladder climbing via infighting and cunning that makes the sith so strong. I mean the modern sith does not really have this sense most sith acolytes are not actually sith but purely pawns in vader, duku or palpys game and ultimately are at best assassins or a replacement.
In the context of the old-republic universe, their openness towards any potential force-sensitive was, at the start of the game, a rather new development though, with Sith traditionally valueing those with pureblood lineage more than anything else. As a Sith Inquisitor character, you even see, that purebloods will get preferencial treatment.
Firstly that guy in the picture is actually a fairly powerful Sith Lord hose name I have forgotten, but he was a “rival” to malgus, which no matter how dismissive malgus was of him puts him as pretty strong, he was as I understand in joint command of the assualt with him. That puts him more on the level of a council master. But also this wasn’t a random ship full of sith, this was a hand picked elite strike team. Also in this raid on the temple there was only a single jedi master present, Ven zallow, who we see due to Malgus. In the book covering these events it is specifically noted that most upper level knights and almost all masters are not present, with zallow being left in charge.
They kinda weren’t tbh, and I’ve never seen anything to suggest it, the average sith acolyte will be better than the average knight yes 100% because of the harsh training and low survival right only the best sith live and so they are on average better.
But I think it’s important to note that jedi training is not as soft as many people here seem to think, in order to become a knight you had to pass through multiple levels of psychological torture, or have already experienced significant hardship so as to have the trials waved. Combined with the fact that in order to even become a padawan you had to demonstrate your skills to masters, which while in times like the clone wars doesn’t always mean beating the shit out of other padawan prospects it sure as hell would during war time.
History and feats have shown that all the way up, jedi masters are on par with Sith Lords, there may be weak or strong outliers for both but the parity remains. The same goes for knights, and while it may be true that jedi knights are on average slightly weaker, it should be noted most of our info on this comes from peace time after the sith vanished where martial prowess mattered less.
The sith could never have won even without their infighting, because they lacked the number, jedi managed to nearly as effectively train their members and weed out the weak while not killing(most of them), and because of a lack of focus on combat they had greater specialization. There was probably 1 knight to every 1 sith because quite simply their training was relatively comparable at the time, but the Jedi also had healers, engineers, highly advanced telepaths, and philosophers. On top of that they had entire corps of people below the knights to support them. A knight may only be .9 of a sith but for every one sith the Jedi have a dozen .1s, .2s and .3a lying around
Sith on the Sigma grindset
Jedis: hippies
Siths: corporate ladder
I forget the exact quote or what game it's from, but it was a sith saying how they are stronger as the requirements for becoming a sith lord are much higher than that other a jedi knight or master. He said something about how many jedi were granted the title of knight over a long stretch of time but at the same time only a handful of sith lords were granted the title in the same time because to be a Sith you must prove your strength.
That’s the thing though. The Sith were powerful but unfocused. We saw time and time again that they could easily stomp the Republic and the Jedi when someone came along and forced them to get their shit together. Khan’s Brotherhood, Bane’s Rule of Two, Revan’s Empire, the actual Sith Empire of Revan’s time, Vitiate and both of his empires.
But the Sith were too chaotic to ever be focused for long. One Sith can muck up a whole war, as we again saw with every time the Sith actually got their shit together and went all in.
We destroyed each other, we desired secrets of each other. Ajunta Pall. First sith lord
I ❤this! Listen to lore all day!!!!!!!
The infighting is what lead to sith downfall and is why Darth Banes rule of Two worked so well. One to embody the power and one to crave it. This meant not only did the sith get stronger every generation, but they also weren’t as barbaric in nature.
No Darth Bane Failed, The Rule of Two was a dumb plan that could have been ended by a stray asteroid ending the Sith forever.
something that always gets me, Revan during his time as a dark lord of the sith attempted to teach that for one to become the new dark lord they must defeat the master in single combat
but many sith wanted the position without earning it, Malak was powerful in his own rights but was no where near his master
he polluted the pool by shooting revan in the back, this is what keeps happening with the sith, the apprentice does not earn the title of dark lord
why the hell to the bad guys have so much more drip than the good guys?
Just because you become a Jedi Knight, it doesn't make you a master.
I mean, in both the Jedi stories in Swtor we get a Padawan faster than Anakin in the Clone Wars
dem boys dripped out tho
Very good explanation, sometimes the Sith were smarter than the Jedi with the ir methods.
Well the problem came and is part of the swtor story of the old republic that sith literally had to bolster their numbers because acolytes died pretty often because of this process and would gather slaves, force sensitive to weak for jedi training as like animals to slaughter to help the few good ones along as well.
@@BaeBunni Old Republic Kotor the best era of the expanded universe what do you think of the Series that comes from the Sith Acolytes what are your expectations with which you would confirm with story since Disney directs them will they do it well? This time?
No it is not. It's a poor summation of a semi lore-abiding videogame.
I don't know if I would call it smart to throw a thousand Children in a Meatgrinder an pick up what comes from the other side back alive.
@@XaldirGodofGood Tis the way of the Sith
In terms of developing one’s technique and discipline, the Sith method actually sounds much worse than the Jedi one.
Having a master who trains you directly on a regular basis instead of one who shows you the basics and has you figure out most of the rest yourself would result in very underdeveloped students in real life.
Also, for a Jedi, all the rank of Master means is that you’ve successfully trained another Padawan to Knighthood. It’s much more of a formality than the Sith rank and not always the best measuring stick of a Jedi’s power.
Sith Acolytes were also present in the ' Force Unleashed ' series
The word acolyte gives me anxiety now
In conclusion, it was a skill issue
Jedi: "come young one, I will teach you till you're ready."
Sith: "swim bitch!" *throws apprentice into lake *
So basically the Sith had that Goggins mentality
But then we see them getting bodied by normal republic troopers in the cinematic trailers.
A week ago I wasn't even interested in Star Wars, but now, I'm slowly engaging into it.
that final shot is my armor
Bro on the thumbnail looks like a peacekeeper
It's about drive, it's about power, we stay hungry, we devour!
The only great weakness of the Sith is their ridiculous infighting. If Marr or Malgus had succeeded and the Sith could have stopped fighting, they would have overwhelmed the Jedi.
The easiest way to defeat the Sith is by doing nothing. If you take away their work, they will become extremely quarrelsome.
So basically go full on Vergil mode
Nox is the best example
More than that. As explained by Bane and later Yoda after order 66, Jedi train to face threats they know and have already encountered before. Sith work to BE a threat that no one has seen yet. Jedi are reactive in the quest for more power, Sith are proactive. Therefore, jedi tend to play catch up with the sith. Only by being completely overpowering (Yoda VS Dooku or Ventress) will it not matter. Otherwise, pound for pound, we compare a passive Jedi VS go getter Sith.
I think it's interesting that the standard sith training method is very much like the yellow-bladed jedi's drive to go out and be a part of the larger universe. Interesting also that the jedi phased that subclass out of their own ranks, except for temple guards who were granted those lightsabers honorifically
Sith's where Adults. Jedi's where 3-4y olds wondering why their momy did not write them anymore.
"Most Jedi Knights were satisfied with that rank, and had no desire to become a master."
If only Anakin Skywalker could've felt this way.
If only Obi-Wan Kenobi could've felt this way.
You can hold onto hate for aeons but forgiving and being peaceable is a “one moment at a time” thing
If the Sith weren’t so busy fighting each other, they could take over everything. They are so powerful when working together.
It's basically like greek hoplites and spartan hoplites
They had that Sithma Male Grindset
Sith crave power. Jedi try not to crave. It makes sense who becomes the stronger.
thanks, I've always wondered how a young Sith could best Jedi masters
Darth Maul VS Qui-Gon Jinn comes to mind.
@@Facade953 that's what I thinking about.
Master Luminara vs Asajj Ventless too.
Oh you small summer child... the clip is so misleading, and there is so much more to know.
the examples (Maul, Ventress) are from the prequels, when the rule of two had been in practice for centuries. Those apprentices were thoroughly selected by some of the most skilled force users in the Galaxy. No wonder they were so strong.
my acolyte in old republic is like naw bro i got privilege he was a lord in 3 days
So the siths are like baby birds being pushed from the nest and the Jedi are like orcas who stay beside their mother till her passing and after that more than half of the grown orcas die cause of the mother's absence
Jedi Masters? No way in hell. Jedi Knights? Ye, quite often.
Because they were better.
I'm sure Sith would be able to partner up few seem to care about helping to prevent others from dying a rare interest for the Sith .
The real answer is because all the weak ones were already weeded out. It's not a difference in quality, it's a difference in the quantity.
Doesn't matter however we can agree that on both sides the old republic versions would wipe the floor with what exists in current (considering cannon cause master Luke from legacy and the sith he fought with are a different breed from everything) and then be disappointed in what their decendants are and what they did.
Thanks for enabling subtitels on the video so that i can read the edited subtitle's subtitles. And also get vastly distracted from the actual video
This was the path of Man-Bun Tjock. THE CANON Sith Warrior of the Old Republic.
Or maybe it's because the Sith focused more on pure combat training while the Jedi focused more developing inner peace and harmony with the force. It's like training a rifleman and a swordsman. A man can be trained to shoot a rifle skillfully in a few weeks while it takes years to train a man to skillfully use a sword.
This reminds me of Ventress being powerful enough to go toe to toe with council members. Generally the dark side is a path to quicker power, where as light side is a longer journey
dathomir was strong in the darkside. maul was stronger in the darkside compared to dooku for example, ventress(also from dathomir) got accustomed fast to the darkside.
@@Smoothalcoholic I felt like dooku was more powerful than maul in some ways, but maul was stronger in different ways. It would have been great to see them fight in the series
@@spongederp160 dooku was a better force user(learned sith lightnig by himself) and more skilled with a lightsaber imo but maul was trained to kill people that fight like jedi(dookus makashi) as well as having more raw strength.
dooku probably could have done what maul did on the 501st venator but he wouldn't use raw telekinetic strength on that level, feat wise i have only seen kylo, yoda, sidious, and vader show that level of strength in their feats.
a fallen dooku with sith eyes would probably be around yoda and sidious in terms of power but the guy was just way past his prime during the prequels.
@@Smoothalcoholic For his advanced age he did incredibly well, but i agree, he was past his prime. His strength lied more in his intelligence and cunning
I don't think maul would do well against Dooku. Dooku is one of the best duelists of that time period, even in his old age. Maul lost his significant duels, apart from Qui gon who was 60 years old and had never faced a sith before, nor was he known for his dueling ability.
The reason why acolytes were so strong is because all these creators of expanded media with Star Wars want their own Darth Vader and always make Sith OP when they shouldn’t be.
If I had to choose, I'd be a Sith Lord instead of a Jedi.
pOWER!! *SSSSSTREEEENGTH!!!*
"We are the Seekers. Not the Shepherds." Yuthura Ban
Its the drip it's just to powerful
The duality of life. There will only ever be 2 choices in life.
this is true to real life as well. people who’s parents guide them and direct them away from hardship, typically end up being satisfied easily, and do not require more money or power to be happy. Some people raise their kids by throwing them to the wolves to make them hungry for more. It creates determined people, but also assholes. The former is more likely to care about others than the latter
I mean, that title does sound bad ass I can't blame them
The sith training is almost like the training of the Spartans
Example A darth mall was cut in half and his hatred for one person kept him alive
I agree with this assessment 100%!
They often get killed by tiny teddy bears, so I don't buy it.
So the TERMS ACOLYTE, were different from "THE ACOLYTE" series huh