Unpopular opinion: i usually reject her. Reason? It feels like it should be a romance only gift. It feels too intimate for just friendship. Feels out of place.
@@edielungreen EXACTLY! I detest running through Overlord. "I’ve been counting…The number of days you lengthened my life..." is the reason I slog through.
One time when doing the Feros mission, I forgot to equip the gas to the grenades. I thought I was saving them as I lobbed grenade after grenade at them thinking I was helping. I was not...
Lol I can just see your Shepard "OK we've got the gas bombs we can stun them" (throws bombs) Garrus: "Sheppard those wee the incendiary bombs!" Sheppard: "oh great another thing the council will bitch at me about"
Going to get Wrex's armor in ME1 but only after he dies on Virmire is pretty brutal. The journal is like well since Wrex is dead no one needs this anymore.
I'm surprised you don't have "failing to help Grissom Academy in ME3" on here. Seeing Jack on Cronos Station as a Cerberus Phantom is brutal, especially if you romanced her in ME2
Woah, never even considered that. I did romance Jack on my first (and only so far) playthrough and part of my acceptance of fate was how well adjusted she had become.
One of the most cursed decisions I’ve ever seen someone make was in a friend’s first play through, he sided with the geth on Rannoch effectively wiping out the quarians and making Tali kill herself, then he chose the destroy ending so the geth all died anyway 😭
In fairness I’d save the Geth over the Quarians too if I can’t make peace, the Geth were almost always innocent and the Quarians were the aggressors every time.
Peace is the best option for sure but if I had to choose I would choose the Quarians everytime. I hate how the games kept forcing me to feel sorry for the robots. At least my sympathy towards the Quarians feels natural and not forced.
I sent David to grisam academy. And then when I went to rescue them and number three ran into him and he unlocked a security room and said to me guns lots of guns in there. There was a single gun in a single container and there was nothing else in that room I think a man who calculates pie in his head and can run through crazy numbers like a calculator would know the difference between lots of guns and one gun
The first time at that point, I knew the BioWare game translation was “maybe one or two guns” and thought that was pretty funny. Didn’t remember The Matrix well enough to get the reference. Either way, the free level-up on the Mattock is helpful at that point in the game 😸
EDIT: Getting Gianna Parasini (NOT Nassania Dantius) killed is like #11 for cursed decisions. So many options and you choose to rat her out. That's not Renegade, that's just being awful.
@@ScottishScrub No, if you help her, then she shows up in ME2. She's at the table just before the stairs to go talk to Liara the first time. She will give you a small mission to help her bust someone again.
To be fair, you obviously rat her out with the intent to try and get the garage pass from Anoleis. You don’t really have any reason to suspect that Anoleis would go straight into murder mode, you’d more likely think that he’ll relieve her of her duties and put her investigation to a halt prematurely.
You forgot one. Giving Veetor to Cerberus. Not only does it peeve off Tali, the poor guy is even more broken than he was after Freedom's Progress. I did it and felt so bad afterwards. Never again. And yeah I was running a Renegade Run.
Little renegade advice. You can kill a lot of colonists and get part of the renegade points. If you don’t kill too many everyone will talk as if you never killed anyone in the later games.
That line about God not being with him was so good. Almost reminded me of Bud telling Bill that they deserve to die in Kill Bill 2. Amazing tidbits come from scumbag decisions, like killing wreck after he finds out about the genophage sabotage. Love this trilogy
Mordin's my favourite ME character but I'd argue Renegade Shepard does worse things. Shooting Mordin has at least some justification. Shepard may have believed both Salarian and Krogan aid would be needed to save Earth, so felt like he had no choice but to pull the trigger when Mordin refused allow the cure to be sabotaged. Don't get me wrong, it's a horrid thing to do, but there's at least a reason for it. I'd say Shepard's most pointlessly cruel act would be allowing Samara to shoot herself and then killing her daughters. There's absolutely no justification for it, it's psychopathic shit.
I remember loving Ashley as a romance option in Mass Effect 1 because of all of the things her and Shepherd had in common But I can't say no to Tali lol
One of the things I did, is after (accidentally) triggering the Ashley Romance in ME1, Romancing Tali in ME2, then bringing Ash abord the Dreadnought... well for one in the Hospital Ash approves, but in Dreadnought well its fun
@@TheMhalpern very much like some people in real life, you can't be nice to Ashley without her taking it as an erotic overture. I wonder how many people fell into that particular trap? On my first playthrough I kept telling her "let's be professional" and "now's not the time". Still ended up "romancing" her. On my most recent (2nd) playthrough, I was like "well, if I'm going to pay for it anyway..." And, if you aren't romancing Liara, then Ash and MShep wasting an afternoon in a bit of diversion before going off on a mission with little (in universe) chance of success/survival makes sense.
@@rhoetusochten4211 This isn't Ashley specific, all characters act like this, like you tell them 2-3 nice lines and they all go apeshit over you. Romance was bit more refined in ME2 and ME3, but in ME1 it kinda felt like afterthought tbh. Also, if you had Shadowbrooker dlc and read hacked emails, apparently Tali upgraded her suit with "nerve stimulator" (vibrator). I don't know why, but it always crack me up.
I have my own theory that if you accept Liaras Gift and she's also your lover, she gets pregnant from the interaction. It's a hope of mine cause it would be an awesome continuity to play as an Asari Shephard (probably looking for Commander Shephard) in the upcoming Mass Effect. If you didn't romance her specifically, you'd simply play as some other badass Alliance Soldier or Race looking for Shephard.
@@redse_ From a story standpoint I don't see it happening. We've yet to confirm if Shephard even lived from the aftermath. Sure there is the destroy ending that shows them breathing. But who knows what tf happend to to shep whether they lived or not. I just wanted to provide a way you could allow newcomers to join the fray by introducing a Shephard fanatic as well as bringing back old time fans by making Sheps decisions continue to have weight. And yes, I personally believe it should branch into shep having offspring. It'd make replayability of the original trilogy and the newcoming entries have that much more weight.
Interesting... does it take 2 willing and intentional partners? As far as I understand, it takes no physical contact, and you basically have "intercourse" each time an Asari does that "embrace eternity" thing. Liara very well *could* have a backup plan to her backup plan. ...a little extra "time capsule" for future generations.
@@rhoetusochten4211 I don't think it does. Especially cause the Asari use other species to encourage genetic variation. I mean, not to get dark, but it doesn't take 2 willing humans to breed. And there is no indication that you have to "embrace eternity" to breed. Liara even does it twice to Shephard just to understand the prothean visions in ME1. It seems to me at least, there just needs to be a unification of the mind and the willingness to merge those minds into an asari offspring. So like I said before, and part of me hopes, that an asari Shephard would make a kickass story start.
I always thought that taking Morinth's side over Samara was the most non-sensical in-character decision in the game. As horrible as they are, I can see some justification for most of the other decisions. e.g. not trusting the Krogans to remain peaceful (what happens if Wrex dies?), or handing David to Cerberus because you think the ends justify the means. However, with Morinth, there's just absolutely no reason to betray Samara. I really feel like the game originally had greater plans for the Ardat-Yakshi and Morinth, and had to cut a lot of it. The game already makes it clear that Ardat-Yakshi are born that way and it's not their fault. Yet they're still forced into solitary exile. They could have spent time developing Morinth into a more nuanced and less evil character while keeping Samara largely the same, but really emphasizing how Samara's unwavering and unyielding code makes her regard Morinth as absolute evil, even though Morinth doesn't really deserve death as punishment.
So what happens at the ardat yakshi monastery in me3 if you sided with morinth? I would expect some unique dialogue there as her sisters realise who came to save them.
@@hector_the_well_endowed nothing. She's Just not there, so few people gave a single crap about morinth that in three She gets a couple of emails and a default Banshee that would have spawned anyway named After her. And Considering, as OP Says, how nonsensical siding with her in the First Place Is? That's Fair enought, i Guess.
I always felt it so strange. Here I am, Shepard, spectre, mass murderer, in a heavy armor, loaded with at least 3 guns and a rocket launcher, but now I am hugging her and she has to feel comfort...
This is really a "how to increasingly piss off Mass Effect paragon players" video. When you let Garrus say all the wrong things, after you hurt Liara and Javik like that....I think I'm having a stroke 😂
Given that you can only play the citadel dlc before you start the mission where you takedown Cerberus you probably wouldnt cause any danger to their relationship at all. Because you meet them only when you start that mission and trigger pretty much the last parts of the game. In my headcanon Garrus realized after meeting that Turian that he actually likes Tali and went on to confess to her, making this scene where Shepard can interrupt them much more sweet.
@@axelnilsson5124 I see your point, but I'd say yes and no. There is development if you take both o some missions in 2 and other moments in 3 where they talk over comm when wondering the ship. It's small perhaps but I think it was enough for the game.
in the french version of ME2 there was a bug that made hugging tali almost impossible. the paragon interup 'would last like one seconde if no less so yeah it wasn't possible glad I switch to english on my second playthrough
I love and hate this video so damn much because I can’t see myself rejecting ANY of these options 😂😂 Big Dan I salute you for doing these unspoken acts and digital war crimes
My first play through of the trilogy Jack was the only one I ended up, interacting, with too. Makes sense for me though because I have a penchant irl for getting with psychopaths who are just as likely to kill me as they are to bang me. 😆
I went Femshep first playthrough and romance Garrus my first playthrough over, but for Female romance options Jack really was the only one that interests me, my first Mshep run I'm gonna romance her.
People already mentioned choosing geth and then destroy or getting Gianna Parasini killed on Noveria. I will add one more horrible decision: killing Falere on Ardat-yakshi monastery mission
@@Hifuutorian Well she said I was special and I could survive. I defeated the reapers and had max persuasion skills so I agreed. Ouch, talk about pride before the fall
No matter how nice or evil your playthrough though, there's one choice we all make, and that's hitting the Renegade prompt right before finishing off Kai Leng. "That was for Thane, you son of a bitch."
@@Zyo117 I find it way more satisfying to destroy her verbally. If you beat her up, you look like an asshole. If you shred her arguments to pieces live on air, she looks like an asshole.
If Miranda survived till the Me3 , she does go to sanctuary and Spoiler warning Kai leng kills her too , so that quote is edited " that was for thane and miranda , you son of a bitch " I always choose that option too but kinda wished my shepard used biotics instead of a omni-blade especially since I mained her as a vanguard
@@Annik_Tenacious_Felis Kai Leng will only kill her if you dont warn her about his presence in the second or third conversation you have with her about her sister. If you warn her Miranda survives as she can fight him off during his assassination attempt.
I didn’t realize there was another path towards Gavin Archer ending his life in ME 3! The only way I had seen was if David was at Grissom Academy, but you didn’t go there by the end of Act 1; David would’ve died by Cerberus forces - and then told Gavin that. This is great!
Will you create a tier list of squadmates (+ idk, maybe villians like saren) but on side of their "power" like liara biotics and shadow broker contacts> james combat skills?
Hey Dan, I am once again playing through the mass effect series so obviously gotta binge all your mass effect videos as well. I know your probably long done with making videos on the series but I was wondering if you ever thought about making another video on it, would you ever do a series play through were you try and get the most amount of war assets as possible. I have seen many videos on “max war assets” but never a guide on how to do so. Just thought it would make for a cool video or series of videos. But I also know that would be a lot of playing just for a few videos so definitely get not wanting to do it. Anyways love you’re videos keep up the good work
Happy N7 day commander I should go 😉 great channel keep it up and god speed. I’m re playing Andromeda as it’s been so long and still doing a fem shep legendary edition play through 🎉🎉🎉 😃
Awesome vid. I am playing through ME2 and missed the paragon interrupt for Tali. They made that window way too short. Also of note is that killing the rachni queen didn't make your list. Just burn the damn bugs :P
When you were talking about rejecting Liara's gift I didn't, as someone who just found your channel, know that was you on screen and was just thinking "what a jackass." 🤣
I used like 2 or 3 gas grenade against the zombies things because I misread what the game wanted for me to do to them and I could only save like two groups of colonists and had to kill the rest. (I didn't know melee was nonlethal until it was too late) They still thanked me for saving the colonist tho, even though only 6 out of 16 were alive.....
One thing I wish about Mass Effect is that more of the choices were "no right answer" decisions like the Witcher 3 gives. Like Virmire is. Bioware wants you to feel the weight of big decisions. But typically, they weight the scale so that the "good" choice gives you game karma in the end. Which, imho, puts a big thumb on the scale. Gotta say, given Wreav's ambitions, if he's in charge, sabotaging the cure is probably the right thing to do for the Galaxy.
My most recent playthrough of 1, in a sleep deprived state I forgot to unequip some explosive ammo on Wrex during Feros, and didn't realise until the end and all the renegade points popped up
Cheating on Liara (or anyone) is the worse to witness for me. But i think the biggest soab moves are the morinth and archer ones. About the genophage sabotage, I think it could be quite logical (depending on who's alive etc).
I totally get that. On my playthrough, Tali died in 2. So, when it came time to choose Geth or Quarian, I chose Geth. I don't think I could have done that were Tali alive. If she doesn't get a home, no Quarian does.
If there's one thing that I think is truly cursed in the LE, it's the fact that certain sounds, like background gunfire during cutscenes, aren't heard at all. Such inattention to details just irk me a lot, and thus need patches. Also, glorious N7 day! (And also the dumb Bolshevik Revolution anniversary.)
some of these sound like trolling choices, the first 3 in particular. I thought of all the ones you'd put here is Rana Thanoptis suviving the first game
I'll never understand people who defend sabotaging the cure. Much of what I've read from them contradicts what's said in game or uses irl logic only when it helps them.
There are two decisions that are really going to put my eventual evil playthrough in jeopardy. Leaving David with Cerberus because I am holding back tears and just wanna cry during that whole dlc due to being horrified at that poor guy. And…oh god…sabotaging the Genophage cure and having to kill…Wrex. I saw the scene, where Wrex finds out that you faked the cure. And up until that point he is so jolly and speaks so good of you. It really made me feel like we were close. But Damnit…that scene never fails to tear me up.
Dude I missed the Cortez interaction on the citadel and that made him die. I was kind of peeved since I talked to him nonstop and I was trying to go for a "perfect" play-through.
I actually played through the Feros/Zhu's Hope missions in ME1 and accidentally killed all the colonists, lol. I did the missions late in the game so I didn't have alot of storage space, and I didn't realize that the Anti Thorian gas was a storable item, I thought it was story related and would be added anyway. Boy was I wrong. Those poor colonists.....
My renegade playthrough was one of the best playthroughs I ever did, but there were some choices that were a little harsh. There's a salarian dying on the Thane recruitment mission that I just can't let him die... it's only 1 unit of medigel.
The Renegade one is hilarious. "You Asari are so weak. You haven't got the guts to kill a hostage. You should stick to stripping. LIARA, NOW!" I can imagine Liara being like "Well that worked but _really_ , Shepard?"
I didn't realize you got the gas grenade during the conversation, I thought you had to purchase it earlier in the game, so I tried just running past all of the colonists... one colonist survived because I forgot my own plan and iced the four you first encounter (that you can 100% run past).
I... I didn't even know that Steve could die, this never happened to me... Damn , this whole video was painful to watch. But I'm glad someone has the guts to do what I will never do.
Rejecting Liara’s gift is so brutal you deserved to have the game crash lol
Guess the secret AI on his computer rebelled for a while there.
The game: I got you.
Justice for Liara 😂🤣😂🤣
Unpopular opinion: i usually reject her. Reason? It feels like it should be a romance only gift. It feels too intimate for just friendship. Feels out of place.
I'd agree if it was something cool. It's literally just them watching a light.
Leaving David with Cerberus is downright one of the most evil decisions in the trilogy
Overlord isn’t one of my favorite missions… and yet I slog through it every time TO SAVE DAVID 😸
At least Gavin still gets a smackdown for it. Small consolidation.
I did it for science.
"Leaving David with Cerberus." *pulls out a dictionary* Those words, is it possible to use them in a sentence like that?
@@edielungreen EXACTLY! I detest running through Overlord. "I’ve been counting…The number of days you lengthened my life..." is the reason I slog through.
The critical mission failure after being sucked to death by morinth was hilarious
I showed my dad that scene
He burst out laughing
Probably why it's at the end of the game itself. lmao.
She got me the first time i played years ago lol
harbinger: well. this is awkward
lol sucked to death
Pink goggle Shepard is a heartbreaker and life taker. Adore it.
I'm afraid I can't.
@@michaelandreipalon359 running is also good option!
Deciding to wear them is the ultimate cursed decision
Imagine the feminist groups supporting that suit
I'm bustin up 🤣🤣🤣🤣
One time when doing the Feros mission, I forgot to equip the gas to the grenades. I thought I was saving them as I lobbed grenade after grenade at them thinking I was helping. I was not...
Ooooooooooof.
"Was the anti-thorian grenade supposed to turn them into a gas?"
@@LostFoundling Yea, if they have the upgrade equipped to them, the grenades are gas grenades... without the upgrade, they are regular grenades...
Same thing happened to me the first time 👍 then i found out that when i ran out of grenades i could just punch the citizens.
You can just knock them out by melee'ing them
I missed the interrupt to hug Tali once... a simple reload wasn't enough, I flat out let the geth in the next room kill me before reloading.
Mood. I had my hand away from the mouse, and missed the interrupt by a millisecond. Loaded immediately. Gotta show support to our quarian girl ♥
For the thorian controlled colonists, I wanted to use the gas, but I forgot to equip it so I pretty much blasted them into pieces
I did that first time, it felt like the "We Saved The City" SpongeBob meme
I didn't know you could just punch them, it made things so much easier
Depends on my playthrough, often I play renegade so dont shoot at me.
Lol I can just see your Shepard
"OK we've got the gas bombs we can stun them" (throws bombs)
Garrus: "Sheppard those wee the incendiary bombs!"
Sheppard: "oh great another thing the council will bitch at me about"
Literally the definition of: "...So I started blasting."
Going to get Wrex's armor in ME1 but only after he dies on Virmire is pretty brutal.
The journal is like well since Wrex is dead no one needs this anymore.
Shepard: "It's mine now I guess..."
Thats a thing? Wow oO.
I'm surprised you don't have "failing to help Grissom Academy in ME3" on here. Seeing Jack on Cronos Station as a Cerberus Phantom is brutal, especially if you romanced her in ME2
Woah, never even considered that.
I did romance Jack on my first (and only so far) playthrough and part of my acceptance of fate was how well adjusted she had become.
That's less making a choice and more forgetting to do something
My GOD that sounds horrible. Okay. Never forgetting to do that. Thank you.
@@jacobwilson7109there’s also audio files on them turning her into a phantom on the station 🥴
@@appelofdoom8211it’s not even hard to forget it’s on the journal, Samantha mentions it after Priority: Palaven and it’s a game
I gotta admit, Garrus being a gun geek is pretty adorable and I wish there was an option to just talk to him about guns in that bar meetup xD
Hey, one good thing tho:
He might show his gun to that cute turian lady so they both can calibrate it together :p
Ikr?
The reaction to Steve's death by Kaiden or Ashley always cracks me up.
One of my favorite moments of ME3
RUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH.
I can accept if one does not like Tali, but it is a sin to not hug her
Anyone who doesn't or can't adore Tali, has no soul.
100% this.
I don’t really love tali but I always hug her and save her from exile. She’s sweet, and doesn’t deserve to suffer as much as she does.
they should crash the game if you dont
You guys hug quarian scum. Sad.
One of the most cursed decisions I’ve ever seen someone make was in a friend’s first play through, he sided with the geth on Rannoch effectively wiping out the quarians and making Tali kill herself, then he chose the destroy ending so the geth all died anyway 😭
"The ends justify the means" guy, huh?
In fairness I’d save the Geth over the Quarians too if I can’t make peace, the Geth were almost always innocent and the Quarians were the aggressors every time.
Peace is the best option for sure but if I had to choose I would choose the Quarians everytime. I hate how the games kept forcing me to feel sorry for the robots. At least my sympathy towards the Quarians feels natural and not forced.
@@sandrogamer30018 but does this unit have a soul?
@@zakkmylde1712 No.
I like this channel cause it allows me to see all the things that would destroy my fragile soul.
That's what I'm here for lol
Me too
@@BigDanGaming you’re doing the Lords work mon ami
Definitely..
I can't do it, myself.
Seeing how it turns out really makes me feel better about my choices.
Big Dan: Rejects Liara's gift.
Game: Oh no you don't.
Hey here’s this thing you can do, do you want to?
„Nah im good“
*universe glitches back*
HEY HERE‘S THIS THING YOU CAN DO.
YOU
WILL
I sent David to grisam academy.
And then when I went to rescue them and number three ran into him and he unlocked a security room and said to me guns lots of guns in there.
There was a single gun in a single container and there was nothing else in that room I think a man who calculates pie in his head and can run through crazy numbers like a calculator would know the difference between lots of guns and one gun
There's lots of guns but not for Shepard
Its a Matrix reference.
The first time at that point, I knew the BioWare game translation was “maybe one or two guns” and thought that was pretty funny. Didn’t remember The Matrix well enough to get the reference. Either way, the free level-up on the Mattock is helpful at that point in the game 😸
Im surprised letting Samara kill herself and then killing Falere anyways didnt make it up here…that’s super cursed 😅
EDIT: Getting Gianna Parasini (NOT Nassania Dantius) killed is like #11 for cursed decisions. So many options and you choose to rat her out. That's not Renegade, that's just being awful.
She always dies, doesn't she?
@@ScottishScrub ah shit not Nassania, I meant Gianna
Not being owed a beer is cursed
@@ScottishScrub No, if you help her, then she shows up in ME2. She's at the table just before the stairs to go talk to Liara the first time. She will give you a small mission to help her bust someone again.
To be fair, you obviously rat her out with the intent to try and get the garage pass from Anoleis. You don’t really have any reason to suspect that Anoleis would go straight into murder mode, you’d more likely think that he’ll relieve her of her duties and put her investigation to a halt prematurely.
You forgot one. Giving Veetor to Cerberus. Not only does it peeve off Tali, the poor guy is even more broken than he was after Freedom's Progress. I did it and felt so bad afterwards. Never again. And yeah I was running a Renegade Run.
Little renegade advice. You can kill a lot of colonists and get part of the renegade points. If you don’t kill too many everyone will talk as if you never killed anyone in the later games.
Convince the guy to stop, don’t kill the Asari and they assume everything is fine
a salute and moment of silence for dan, who went through all this pain just to show us what would happen
Can't believe Archer has actually more self-reflection this way. Still not letting him keep David tho
That line about God not being with him was so good. Almost reminded me of Bud telling Bill that they deserve to die in Kill Bill 2.
Amazing tidbits come from scumbag decisions, like killing wreck after he finds out about the genophage sabotage. Love this trilogy
Shooting Mordin was the most heartless and cruel thing you could do. You're a true monster if you do.
Mordin's my favourite ME character but I'd argue Renegade Shepard does worse things.
Shooting Mordin has at least some justification. Shepard may have believed both Salarian and Krogan aid would be needed to save Earth, so felt like he had no choice but to pull the trigger when Mordin refused allow the cure to be sabotaged. Don't get me wrong, it's a horrid thing to do, but there's at least a reason for it.
I'd say Shepard's most pointlessly cruel act would be allowing Samara to shoot herself and then killing her daughters. There's absolutely no justification for it, it's psychopathic shit.
I did it to go through a renegade playthrough, I felt like a monster, I've never felt to bad about a decision
I shot Mordin in all 6 classes play through 😉
If Wrex is dead, it's for the greater good
I remember loving Ashley as a romance option in Mass Effect 1 because of all of the things her and Shepherd had in common
But I can't say no to Tali lol
One of the things I did, is after (accidentally) triggering the Ashley Romance in ME1, Romancing Tali in ME2, then bringing Ash abord the Dreadnought... well for one in the Hospital Ash approves, but in Dreadnought well its fun
@@TheMhalpern very much like some people in real life, you can't be nice to Ashley without her taking it as an erotic overture.
I wonder how many people fell into that particular trap?
On my first playthrough I kept telling her "let's be professional" and "now's not the time". Still ended up "romancing" her.
On my most recent (2nd) playthrough, I was like "well, if I'm going to pay for it anyway..." And, if you aren't romancing Liara, then Ash and MShep wasting an afternoon in a bit of diversion before going off on a mission with little (in universe) chance of success/survival makes sense.
@@rhoetusochten4211 This isn't Ashley specific, all characters act like this, like you tell them 2-3 nice lines and they all go apeshit over you. Romance was bit more refined in ME2 and ME3, but in ME1 it kinda felt like afterthought tbh.
Also, if you had Shadowbrooker dlc and read hacked emails, apparently Tali upgraded her suit with "nerve stimulator" (vibrator). I don't know why, but it always crack me up.
I have my own theory that if you accept Liaras Gift and she's also your lover, she gets pregnant from the interaction. It's a hope of mine cause it would be an awesome continuity to play as an Asari Shephard (probably looking for Commander Shephard) in the upcoming Mass Effect. If you didn't romance her specifically, you'd simply play as some other badass Alliance Soldier or Race looking for Shephard.
Liara being pregnant sounds cute, i wonder if FemShep can get pregnant too.
@@redse_ From a story standpoint I don't see it happening. We've yet to confirm if Shephard even lived from the aftermath. Sure there is the destroy ending that shows them breathing. But who knows what tf happend to to shep whether they lived or not. I just wanted to provide a way you could allow newcomers to join the fray by introducing a Shephard fanatic as well as bringing back old time fans by making Sheps decisions continue to have weight. And yes, I personally believe it should branch into shep having offspring. It'd make replayability of the original trilogy and the newcoming entries have that much more weight.
Interesting... does it take 2 willing and intentional partners?
As far as I understand, it takes no physical contact, and you basically have "intercourse" each time an Asari does that "embrace eternity" thing.
Liara very well *could* have a backup plan to her backup plan. ...a little extra "time capsule" for future generations.
@@rhoetusochten4211 I don't think it does. Especially cause the Asari use other species to encourage genetic variation. I mean, not to get dark, but it doesn't take 2 willing humans to breed. And there is no indication that you have to "embrace eternity" to breed. Liara even does it twice to Shephard just to understand the prothean visions in ME1. It seems to me at least, there just needs to be a unification of the mind and the willingness to merge those minds into an asari offspring. So like I said before, and part of me hopes, that an asari Shephard would make a kickass story start.
I always thought that taking Morinth's side over Samara was the most non-sensical in-character decision in the game. As horrible as they are, I can see some justification for most of the other decisions. e.g. not trusting the Krogans to remain peaceful (what happens if Wrex dies?), or handing David to Cerberus because you think the ends justify the means.
However, with Morinth, there's just absolutely no reason to betray Samara. I really feel like the game originally had greater plans for the Ardat-Yakshi and Morinth, and had to cut a lot of it. The game already makes it clear that Ardat-Yakshi are born that way and it's not their fault. Yet they're still forced into solitary exile. They could have spent time developing Morinth into a more nuanced and less evil character while keeping Samara largely the same, but really emphasizing how Samara's unwavering and unyielding code makes her regard Morinth as absolute evil, even though Morinth doesn't really deserve death as punishment.
So what happens at the ardat yakshi monastery in me3 if you sided with morinth? I would expect some unique dialogue there as her sisters realise who came to save them.
@@hector_the_well_endowed nothing. She's Just not there, so few people gave a single crap about morinth that in three She gets a couple of emails and a default Banshee that would have spawned anyway named After her.
And Considering, as OP Says, how nonsensical siding with her in the First Place Is? That's Fair enought, i Guess.
You know this is a Big Dan list when the first thing he does is reject Tali 😂
Shepard, Kaidan, and Ashley's reactions to Cortez crashing is so lulzy!!!😂
I feel like they did a take and said "Make it sound like a bad anime dub" and just went with that take
Hope those narmy moments get patched out easily.
Except for James Vega's. At least his reaction makes sense.
A similar one to not hugging Tali is not comforting the mother of the girl Morinth murdered when she starts crying.
I always felt it so strange. Here I am, Shepard, spectre, mass murderer, in a heavy armor, loaded with at least 3 guns and a rocket launcher, but now I am hugging her and she has to feel comfort...
Happy N7 Day, Big Dan! Thank you for making all Mass Effect videos. Awesome as always.
That stream with turning down Liara and then all the endings all at once was legendary
This is really a "how to increasingly piss off Mass Effect paragon players" video. When you let Garrus say all the wrong things, after you hurt Liara and Javik like that....I think I'm having a stroke 😂
8:51 Garrus doesn't need a wingman, he's got Tali. Why would I want to break up that couple?
It's one reason to not romance garrus. I love tali and garrus ending up together. :) a gun and a tech geek :D
Given that you can only play the citadel dlc before you start the mission where you takedown Cerberus you probably wouldnt cause any danger to their relationship at all.
Because you meet them only when you start that mission and trigger pretty much the last parts of the game.
In my headcanon Garrus realized after meeting that Turian that he actually likes Tali and went on to confess to her, making this scene where Shepard can interrupt them much more sweet.
Because it was out of left field and didn’t get any development
@@axelnilsson5124 I see your point, but I'd say yes and no.
There is development if you take both o some missions in 2 and other moments in 3 where they talk over comm when wondering the ship. It's small perhaps but I think it was enough for the game.
i tried to romance tali in me3, but apparently i didnt do it right, because i walked into the battery room and…
in the french version of ME2 there was a bug that made hugging tali almost impossible. the paragon interup 'would last like one seconde if no less so yeah it wasn't possible glad I switch to english on my second playthrough
Also in the Italian one!
You heartless Occidentals!
I love and hate this video so damn much because I can’t see myself rejecting ANY of these options 😂😂 Big Dan I salute you for doing these unspoken acts and digital war crimes
Interesting to see this conversation with Gavin Archer in ME3. I never had the balls to let Cerberus keep David to see it for myself.
If we’re being honest, I rejected both Liara and Ashley in the first game. Jack is the only one from the trilogy that interested me.
My first play through of the trilogy Jack was the only one I ended up, interacting, with too. Makes sense for me though because I have a penchant irl for getting with psychopaths who are just as likely to kill me as they are to bang me. 😆
I too prefer my women without any redeeming qualities
@@Vyrophyl ??? Jack literally turned her life around completely by ME3 so idk what the point of your comment is....
I went Femshep first playthrough and romance Garrus my first playthrough over, but for Female romance options Jack really was the only one that interests me, my first Mshep run I'm gonna romance her.
Yeah except they did nothing with Jack's romance in ME3 except for the shore leave DLC. Terrible
People already mentioned choosing geth and then destroy or getting Gianna Parasini killed on Noveria. I will add one more horrible decision: killing Falere on Ardat-yakshi monastery mission
I didn't know you could get Gianna killed!
Hm....
@@kcj6236 better to kill Falere now than have her become a Banshee and impale hundreds.
The game didn't crash... Liara ordered Glyph to cut the signal
"imma grab a water" 😂
Couldn't bare to not hug her.
Big Dan getting Huge! I subbed when you had 10k crazy to see your journey! Hope you go far but keep up the small community vibes! 🤜🤛
I was there when Dan went for that bottle of water. I hope the water was worth it, Dan. Hope it was worth it.
It wasn't, was it?
@@michaelandreipalon359 Hydration be damned!
You don't think he has the fortitude to witness Tali crying and *not* hug her, do you?
I know Geth that can't oull that feat off.
Pink Goggle shepard is a legend hahaha
I will admit Morinth killing me was a surprise but still worth it
death... by snu snu!
A surprise but a welcome one. 😆
How was it a surprise lol.
@@Hifuutorian Well she said I was special and I could survive. I defeated the reapers and had max persuasion skills so I agreed. Ouch, talk about pride before the fall
@@vikingsword3485 Thought with your other brain I see ;)
No matter how nice or evil your playthrough though, there's one choice we all make, and that's hitting the Renegade prompt right before finishing off Kai Leng. "That was for Thane, you son of a bitch."
Also punching the Bint journalist 😂 Al-Jilani.
@@Zyo117 I find it way more satisfying to destroy her verbally. If you beat her up, you look like an asshole. If you shred her arguments to pieces live on air, she looks like an asshole.
If Miranda survived till the Me3 , she does go to sanctuary and Spoiler warning
Kai leng kills her too , so that quote is edited " that was for thane and miranda , you son of a bitch "
I always choose that option too but kinda wished my shepard used biotics instead of a omni-blade especially since I mained her as a vanguard
@@Annik_Tenacious_Felis Kai Leng will only kill her if you dont warn her about his presence in the second or third conversation you have with her about her sister.
If you warn her Miranda survives as she can fight him off during his assassination attempt.
I didn’t realize there was another path towards Gavin Archer ending his life in ME 3! The only way I had seen was if David was at Grissom Academy, but you didn’t go there by the end of Act 1; David would’ve died by Cerberus forces - and then told Gavin that. This is great!
Kaidans scream has me in tears 😂
Happy N7 day big Dan can't wait to see what information we get today if any
As a long time big dan fan, I love the Cortez death scream every time
Will you create a tier list of squadmates (+ idk, maybe villians like saren) but on side of their "power" like liara biotics and shadow broker contacts> james combat skills?
HAPPY N7 DAY BIG DAN!!!
“I need to grab a water”
This is why you are my favorite.
Hey Dan, I am once again playing through the mass effect series so obviously gotta binge all your mass effect videos as well. I know your probably long done with making videos on the series but I was wondering if you ever thought about making another video on it, would you ever do a series play through were you try and get the most amount of war assets as possible. I have seen many videos on “max war assets” but never a guide on how to do so. Just thought it would make for a cool video or series of videos. But I also know that would be a lot of playing just for a few videos so definitely get not wanting to do it. Anyways love you’re videos keep up the good work
That streamer missing the hug prompt for Tali committed unwilling and unknowingly a crime.
Love you big Dan
Happy N7 day commander I should go 😉 great channel keep it up and god speed. I’m re playing Andromeda as it’s been so long and still doing a fem shep legendary edition play through 🎉🎉🎉 😃
Alternative title: “Pretty much everything I did on my first play through before really understanding the mechanics”
The pink goggles are Baaack. Also happy N7 day guys!!
If Wreave is in charge... NEVER cure the genophage
Boom! Exactly what I was thinking. If it was Wrex, it would have been different.
“Yes, I’ve noticed the others avoiding me.”
What did you do to my boy Javiik T.T
Awesome vid. I am playing through ME2 and missed the paragon interrupt for Tali. They made that window way too short. Also of note is that killing the rachni queen didn't make your list. Just burn the damn bugs :P
Yeah, I always miss it too.
It's so fast I thought it was some bug and not a real interrupt
I just know there has to be a video coming for the N7 day teaser that was put out 👀👀
When you were talking about rejecting Liara's gift I didn't, as someone who just found your channel, know that was you on screen and was just thinking "what a jackass." 🤣
oh my god... this was so freaking hard to watch... Not hugging Tali... And refusing Liara's gift. I feel so bad now :O almost started crying.
First playthrough I killed the colonists because of a similar mission that was too difficult (the paragon only mission with the scientists...)
First time I played through Zhu's Hope, I blew up the colonists because I forgot to switch to the gas -_-
I used like 2 or 3 gas grenade against the zombies things because I misread what the game wanted for me to do to them and I could only save like two groups of colonists and had to kill the rest. (I didn't know melee was nonlethal until it was too late)
They still thanked me for saving the colonist tho, even though only 6 out of 16 were alive.....
One thing I wish about Mass Effect is that more of the choices were "no right answer" decisions like the Witcher 3 gives. Like Virmire is. Bioware wants you to feel the weight of big decisions. But typically, they weight the scale so that the "good" choice gives you game karma in the end. Which, imho, puts a big thumb on the scale.
Gotta say, given Wreav's ambitions, if he's in charge, sabotaging the cure is probably the right thing to do for the Galaxy.
Not even a minute in and says “I’m going to get water”😂
Dan remember to have water next to you the next time you need a paragon interrupt 😂
My most recent playthrough of 1, in a sleep deprived state I forgot to unequip some explosive ammo on Wrex during Feros, and didn't realise until the end and all the renegade points popped up
Cheating on Liara (or anyone) is the worse to witness for me.
But i think the biggest soab moves are the morinth and archer ones.
About the genophage sabotage, I think it could be quite logical (depending on who's alive etc).
I totally get that.
On my playthrough, Tali died in 2.
So, when it came time to choose Geth or Quarian, I chose Geth.
I don't think I could have done that were Tali alive. If she doesn't get a home, no Quarian does.
Siding with Morinth is like Anakin choosing the Emperor in Revenge of the Sith lol
If there's one thing that I think is truly cursed in the LE, it's the fact that certain sounds, like background gunfire during cutscenes, aren't heard at all. Such inattention to details just irk me a lot, and thus need patches.
Also, glorious N7 day! (And also the dumb Bolshevik Revolution anniversary.)
some of these sound like trolling choices, the first 3 in particular. I thought of all the ones you'd put here is Rana Thanoptis suviving the first game
So close to 100K
Garrus has been calibrating guns for so long, he forgot to calibrate his pickup lines.
I'll never understand people who defend sabotaging the cure. Much of what I've read from them contradicts what's said in game or uses irl logic only when it helps them.
I'm still in shock they allowed you to shoot Mordin in the back like that.
Pure scumbaggery
There are two decisions that are really going to put my eventual evil playthrough in jeopardy. Leaving David with Cerberus because I am holding back tears and just wanna cry during that whole dlc due to being horrified at that poor guy. And…oh god…sabotaging the Genophage cure and having to kill…Wrex. I saw the scene, where Wrex finds out that you faked the cure. And up until that point he is so jolly and speaks so good of you. It really made me feel like we were close. But Damnit…that scene never fails to tear me up.
7:54: Dan: "With all the temptations aboard the Normandy,"
Video: [Shows the most disturbingly Uncanny Valley character in the game]
I made so many mistakes in the series I’m tempted to play the whole darn thing again 😩
Dude I missed the Cortez interaction on the citadel and that made him die. I was kind of peeved since I talked to him nonstop and I was trying to go for a "perfect" play-through.
I actually played through the Feros/Zhu's Hope missions in ME1 and accidentally killed all the colonists, lol. I did the missions late in the game so I didn't have alot of storage space, and I didn't realize that the Anti Thorian gas was a storable item, I thought it was story related and would be added anyway.
Boy was I wrong.
Those poor colonists.....
My renegade playthrough was one of the best playthroughs I ever did, but there were some choices that were a little harsh. There's a salarian dying on the Thane recruitment mission that I just can't let him die... it's only 1 unit of medigel.
Ahhh a fellow Blood Dragon enjoyer. Rock on, Cybersoldier.
when i saw pink-shep with his silly googles on, i knew we were in for a ride !!!
12:41 I experienced this without knowing what would happen (but suspecting as much) and it is one of my fav memories from the entire series!
I’ve had the game crash at that point with Javik-I try to remember to quick save right after the encounter with Liara 😜
I'm surprised you didn't mention the paragon speech check in the shadow broker dlc, that was pretty cruel for Shepherd
You'd think that was a fucking Renegade option
Shep really put the less in Ruthless with that One
The Renegade one is hilarious. "You Asari are so weak. You haven't got the guts to kill a hostage. You should stick to stripping. LIARA, NOW!"
I can imagine Liara being like "Well that worked but _really_ , Shepard?"
That’s not a decision that’s dialogue
@@axelnilsson5124 I’d argue hugging tali or not falls into that same category
I give you bonus point Dan. I tried so hard to do a renegade play through it failed on Virmire. I was so crushed Wrex died I started a new.
Ps. Happy N7 day
Oh, and here I was thinking this was about decisions made in making the Legendary Edition, as in changes from how things were originally.
Leaving David with Cerberus. Something I will never ever do.
I didn't realize you got the gas grenade during the conversation, I thought you had to purchase it earlier in the game, so I tried just running past all of the colonists... one colonist survived because I forgot my own plan and iced the four you first encounter (that you can 100% run past).
Hey dan,I know this is unrelated,but if I want 100% mass effect 1,do I need to do the smuggle quest because I'm trying to do only paragon.
I try to avoid the comforting paragon interrupts for fear of losing romance with another person.
NO 8 is something that happened to me in my first ME3 playthrough, didnt even know I could help the lad until the second time around.
I prefer Garrus' other pick up line. "Do you come here often? I imagine anyone who does is an alcoholic."
I... I didn't even know that Steve could die, this never happened to me... Damn , this whole video was painful to watch. But I'm glad someone has the guts to do what I will never do.
LIara scared in ME2 when I found out she was able to keep track of my gentleman sausage accross countless star systems.
The CorteZ death audio is freaking hilarious! ARGGHHHHHHHHH
"Cheating on Liara"
Meanwhile Kelly giving me the VIP treatment in the Captain's quarters and Liara seems perfectly cool with it.