Masters of Taiwan p1 - Martial History with Liu Kang Yi & the Oldest Bubishi Manual
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- čas přidán 12. 09. 2024
- In the first episode, I meet up with my friend John Eusebio @longfistmantis to visit the bookstore of Liu Kang Yi. Mr Liu's bookstore, Wuxue Shuguan has a huge collection of martial arts books, in both Chinese and English, and he has also spent decades collecting old and rare manuscripts. In this video he shares his insights on the development of martial arts from a military combat art, to an integrated system of both combat and health practice, as we see it today. He also shows us a copy of the Bubishi, the foundational manual of Okinawan Karate.
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YOURE IN TAIWAN????? PLEASSSSSEEEE GO SEE JIANG YI SHAN. PLEASSSSSEEEE GO INTERVIEW HIM. Feel his hands PLEASE. Oh my God this is incredible
I know a certain karate nerd who might be awful jealous of this particular leg of the Taiwan adventure! 😄Can't wait to see more.
Very cool book! And yes, some of the moves in the old manuscripts are essentially the same as many modern combatives. It turns out that the basic strikes, basic wrestling, and simple submissions existed pretty much everywhere. I look forward to seeing what else you get up to in Taiwan!
For sure! Its cliche but we all have two arms and two legs
Yep, funny even the history of modern combatives traces to Kung fu according to Fairbairne. Truly nothing new under the sun
this is a false perspective, It's a pain in the arm and two legs but the combinations, styles and strategies are ENDLESS...
if it is the same, there is a 99% chance that it has A COMMON ORIGIN...
So much so that when you look for historical records, they ALWAYS FOLLOW the following chronological order...
It first appears in Sumeria, centuries later in Egypt and India, centuries later in Greece and China and only several centuries later in the rest of the world...
CLEARLY THERE IS A COMMON ORIGIN...
Double Wrist Lock you don't see in Western wrestlers or in CATCH as a catch can, until there is an interpretation between Asia/India and the West...but you see statues from 800 years ago in Asia...
You see the Western style of wrestler millennia ago in Egyptian tombs, but you don't see the Asian style (Jiujitsu like), until Asia had a cultural exchange with the West...
Even INDIGENOUS styles, except very simple and visceral styles, they are similar BECAUSE THEY HAVE A COMMON ORIGIN...
Only the root of these techniques must be VERY OLD, MORE THAN 10 THOUSAND YEARS...and must have gone through cycles of flowering and decay throughout the evolution of weapons and armed battle tactics...
We have a flowering boom of unarmed fighting from the 1800s, because society changes and becomes peaceful, and we have the same boom in the Greek, Egyptian, and Roman periods, in periods of peace and stability, and then a collapse and focuses more on armed techniques or interruption in the transmission of knowledge in periods of POLITICAL INSTABILITY and absence of hegemony in political power...
These cycles are well documented over the last 2 thousand years, and must be repeated through the past throughout at least 6 or 10 thousand years...
This first episode is a very good introduction! It looks like the quality of pictures has increased, to compare with previous series. Congratulations for the great work and thanks for sharing!
Excellent first episode! Looking forward to seeing the rest of the series!
Oh great! Looking forward to the series!
Loved it! I wish I can visit beautiful Taiwan one day. As a child, one of my fondest memories is when my father bought our first VHS video (before we only had Beta) and finally could rent the Kung Fu Kids movies and Lucky Seven, both made in Taiwan.
Very very interesting, his explanation was very detailed. Also he was kind to show the book with the posture.
Luv it.
Fantastic content, much better and authentic than what other commercial camp organisers are putting out. This is real stuff, and top notch material.
Thank you!
Always able to find the interesting places and people to meet ! One more excellent series !
Good episode there.Cant wait to see the next episode about Bajiquan and the Wutan headquarters there in Taipei
Awesome episode Will. I’m very excited for the next few episodes!
Fantastic, so much treasure in Taiwan and the bookstore! Looking forward to the next episode! Thank you 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
I lived and studied in Taiwan for ten years starting in 1990... The hot springs up in Yang Ming Mountain is amazing...i used to live up there for years...
I breathlessly await every episode of your show. Love the troves of information you are putting out there, thank you.
Man Karate nerd would love this. Original techniques of Okinawan karate including grappling
Welcome to Taiwan
This is great! Very interesting indeed! Many thanks :)
What an amazing treasure!! Great video mate ;-)
Well that was fascinating!! Looking forward to more of this. That's a TV documentary standard production! Kudos.
Thanks man!
thanks for keeping it faithfull to the audience!. keep on the great work!. keep on believing in what you do!.
This was amazing!! I can't wait for part 2
I appreciated this video. Some background on Taiwanese martial history was great. Keep living the dream - big steps. This series is going to push your channel big time. Great job. Happy for you.
Thank you!
Thank you for making this video serial ! This comment by the Master starting from 2:38 as follows " Traditional Martial Arts originated from Military , then spread to civilian. Once it entered civil life, people became concerned about ageing. Once you get old , you lose your Gongfu. People asked if there was any way to prolong the strength power. They looked for ways so they looked in Chinese medicine , Taoism even Buddhism & confucianism. At that time , people wanted to do anything that could further this aim. They absorbed and used it but there was no system to it" ... this is precisely what in the book " Chinese Martial Arts Training Manuals , a historical survey " by Brian Kennedy & Elizabeth Guo... CMA in the late Qing dynasty to early Republican era , were publicized in books by various Master s in CMA, they were civilians. When they wrote the books tend to include their personal application of Metaphysical understanding of MA of their respective system. There is nothing wrong with such personal freedom to apply what their beliefs in the MA they majored in. However in Modern times, those practitioners in the West tend to bring along the metaphysics belief into the MA they learned from. Traditional MA was from Military application , that includes all the subjects that many modern days military academies taught as well. However once in civilian hands , it had developed along the lines of individual metaphysics belief as well. So it is good to hear there is a Master in Taiwan could explain how CMA had developed throughout time, and certainly from personal preference to see CMA continues to grow without any attachment of metaphysics to it... anf let that part just part of individual practise rather than being collective as a whole because Traditional MA which has military origin was all about practicality in conducting training the troops and winning the war in the battlefield.
I loved his bookstore beyond words... an absolute must visit if you ever happen to visit Taipei city.
Amazing book store! I have to visit it someday. While investigating Ba Ji Quan you might want to meet with Adam Hsu. I think he is now teaching in one of the parks, maybe near Jiang Kai Shek Memorial Hall, can't quite remember. Anyway, his English is pretty good. He lived in California for years. I met him years ago through my Shuai Jiao shifu Daniel Weng. Hsu Shifu moved back to Taiwan a few years ago.
Unfortunately I am already back in Australia. Generally the videos take me several weeks to edit, so what you are seeing is from early Feb, not live
Excellent content as always!
I think I went to that bookstore about 20 years ago with Marcus Brinkman. I wonder if you’ll be catching up with Luo DeXiu or Su DongChen.
Would have been nice but didn’t get time on this trip unfortunately
Luo laoshi is mostly in Europe these days and Su moved back to Japan.
@@davechesser9062 A well-educated guess, but Luo laoshi has been in Taiwan since Covid-19. He was in Europe quite a bit before then, though. I'm a student of his in Taipei. I'm not sure about Su. I know people who have attended his class in Taipei in the last few years, but for all I know he decided to go back to Japan.
As a Shaolin quan practitioner, I also like Baji quan ( which was the style of many emperor's bodyguards). It is brutal and efficient. Great journey, I wish would be able to joining you in your exciting trips. Keep up the great work! .. I will be looking forward to hour next episode...like and subscribed!
Oh, also can you look at the lei tai tournament scene in Taiwan, it’s like Sanda but far more traditional and I would like to explore it.
Liu Kang wins. Flawless victory
Awesome series
Awesome! Jesse Encamp must see it.
I understand there's a very good Feeding Crane practitioner there, who would be well worth looking up.
Wait and see haha
I would like to see you interview Sifu Adam Mizner, an obviously divisive character, who, based on my experience with him, has real skills as described in the Taiji classics. I love your channel and realize this would be an explosive interview that would get an unfortunate number of negative comments. It would take a great deal of courage to walk into that interview with an open mind. Regardless, you will be surprised, and even awed, I suspect.
Well Done Will nice story
Thank you for sharing, the martial
Great content
Maaan this series seems right up my alley! Thanks for the video.
BTW, Is that a poster of Sifu Adam Hsu when you're about to enter the bookstore? I used to study at one of the schools headed by two of his students, but location's been tough recently.
Yea that’s him!
Shifu Adam Hsu is one of the three students of Liu Yun Chow and my grand master, Su Yu Chang's Gong Fu brother...
Met Master Hsu a long time ago at one of his Baji seminars in the early 90s...
He is not only a martial arts master but a true scholar as well...soft spoken and nobody would suspect his power until it was revealed...
Awesome to meet someone of his lineage!
You may want to check out little nine heaven kung fu based out of Taiwan I believe they are associated with Tien Shao dao the school combination of Hsing I chuan Tai chi and Bagua
Perhaps next time, I’m already back home editing videos now
your doing a great thing bud!
Why you didn’t came to Tainan- it would be a pleasure to introduce you to a famous Tanglang master
Time was short, so I decided to just focus my time in one place. I'll come to Tainan next time for sure!
Add me on the list please! Thank you
Question, would you say that the martial culture of Chinese martial arts are better preserved in the Chinese Diaspora or in China itself, I know it seems like Ann easy question, but from what I understand there are a great deal of frauds in China and far less so in other Chinese communities throughout East and Southeast Asia.
Honestly, I think overall the martial arts are pretty similar both inside and outside China. What’s different is the society and people’s attitudes
If you're interested in learning the history of Martial Arts in Communist China, please read the books by Dr Zhouxiang Lu
You can look at kun tao arts in Indonesia, Malaysia and old kung fu in Vietnam.
Wow, when I saw that colorized bubishi (wu bei ji) my heart skipped a beat...
The Japanese needs to be honored in this respect. They kept better records of this than the Chinese did...
There is a written 108 volume of Bubishi in Taiwan University years ago. I don’t know if it is still there or if you are able to go visit..
It goes from training to mapping to developing weapons to strategies and on to how to raise stock, army, food then down to personal combat...
The shifu's hypothesis is very interesting especially the third theory...
I will add my own if you care to read...
One, old China was warring a lot. And bandits were everywhere...martial arts were practiced for life and death situations thus making it more effective..
That leads to two,
It got watered down during peace times so it became more about health and self-preservation...
On another note...looks like you have the long fist Tanglang men next..
I am interested if you will be showing the other four styles of Tanglang in Taiwan...
My grand Master was master Su Yu-Chang who was a master of all five mantis plus he was one of the three students of the most famous presidential body guard, Baji Master, Liu Yun Chow...
I hope you will show case and document the famous Baji Master Liu Yun Chow and personally, find my grand Master 's students in Pachi-Tanglang which I think is in Ping Tung...
Love your series..makes me want to be young and back in China/Taiwan again...
Thank you for the great videos and your journey...
Baji video is just released! And yes, will be covering some more Mantis styles, stay tuned
@@MonkeyStealsPeach can you send me the link to the Baji video? Many thanks!
Brilliant!
Reminds me that I need to buy some Lion Books lol
Okinawa karate came from the Tang dynasty and the Ming government who deployed 36 families in the liu chooo
I have question. Is there a connection between Ninjutsu and Chinese kungfu. They say there’s connect between Hsing-I and Ninpo taijutsu. Just seems interesting.
Thank you
Sorry I don’t know anything about Ninjutsu
Yes there is. A lot of Chinese would go to Japan and other surrounding countries everytime a kingdom or dynasty would fall.
Wubei Zhi, or Bubishi in Japanese, is written by Mao Yuanyi (茅元儀 1594-1640?) in Ming Dynasty of China. Unless you are a Japanese and not communicating with others language speakers, when referring to this book, please use the correct Chinese name instead of Japanese. This is a respect of the culture.
Imagine when people call Japanese name in Chinese pronunciation, it will create not only confusion but also disrespect. E.g. saying "De Chuan Jia Kang" (徳川家康) instead of Tokugawa Ieyasu.
This is not the same Wubeizhi as that written by Mao Yuanyi. It is a martial arts manual of Okinawan origin that is based on the Chinese martial arts of Fujian. I call it Bubishi as the book is mostly relevant to Karate practitioners who are familiar with the Japanese pronunciation of the name.
Besides, as Chinese characters can be pronounced in so many different ways, which is the “respectful” way to say it? Mandarin? Hokkien? Reconstructed Ming Dynasty palace speech?
@@MonkeyStealsPeach Since it's a book originated in Okinawa and most referred in Karate world, sure it can be called as Bubishi.
For which is the "respectful" way to pronounce Chinese characters, for someone like you who has been lived in China for over 30 years, I bet you know the choice. Still no? simply list all the dialect versions that you want, but not foreign spelling. It will make you very considerate and your video way more fun to watch.
subtitles are not clear, please clarify so everyone can read them for contrast in thickness
I lived in Taipei Taiwan for over three years and I was exposed to a lot of good martial arts there especially praying mantis. Ironically, some of that traditional praying mantis still exists in mainland China. The only problem is it is difficult to find but when you do, it is awesome And it almost matches Taiwan praying mantis as well. The sad thing about mainland. China is most of the martial arts that you will see is contemporary wushu
I lived in China for over 13 years. There is a lot of good traditional stuff if you know where to look for it. Have a browse through my channel, you'll see some of what I found
Plus there’s the school of master Too
Have you been to Philippines and South Africa?
I’ve been to the Philippines. You can see where I have been by the playlists on my channel page
secret martial arts manuals, did he have the nine yin bone claw manual? what about the eighteen dragon subduing palm?
"eighteen dragon subduing palm" in fiction martial arts, watch "Donnie yen ""sakra"" movie."
@PaMuShin buddha's palm i think.. they also used the music from Buddha's Palm, the 1964 black and white movie 如來神掌(上集) , an early Wuxia movie from Hong Kong.
Great channel, I love the content. I saw that you practice Brazilian Ju Jutsu? So is the Brazilian art for fighting and the Kung fu a hobby, or do you also use your Chinese arts for combat?
Thanks mate. Depends what you mean by fighting/combat. I’m fortunate that where I live in Sydney, I don’t encounter violence in my everyday life, and so I don’t need to use either art for that.
The one time I did use it was back in China, when I intervened in a domestic violence situation. I used a takedown from my Mantis on the guy, pulling him off the woman and grabbing his face and sweeping his foot at the same time.
If you are talking about sparring, then I use whatever fits the ruleset/format. I have formally competed in BJJ and had several informal Sanda matches before too.
@@MonkeyStealsPeach great answer, looking forward to your next video.
You mean to tell me Liu Kang is a real person🤣😂interesting
#viierjkd was here. 😉🤛💥
Jiangyushan later?'
I was going to ask the same thing. Can't not interview the Grandmaster.
I didn’t go to Tainan on this trip
@@MonkeyStealsPeach that makes sense
@@Bagoth2 He is the top guy in Taiwan and for monkey style and also some hsingyi and other stuff. Bodyguard to the president. You could just interview him and I would watch it. He is the real deal and has bridged cultures and cannot get the 'it wouldn't work in the cage' comments as he fought and his students too in MMA. Best of all, he seems like a very humble and grounded guy, unlike too many hotheads nowadays. I saw a video of him teaching at the European Shaolin temple too as they recognise his lineage and skill. His online courses are too expensive for me but I enjoy his videos.
@@MonkeyStealsPeach A good reason for another trip ;)
I'm in Kaohsiung now.
If you come here I'll introduce you to some teachers/practitioners etc...✌️
Thanks! Unfortunately I’m back in Australia now.
@@MonkeyStealsPeach Wow, that was fast 🥸
@@worldtraveler007 I was there in Feb, the editing takes weeks, so I don't do it on the road
易筋经内壮功法具有实践意义的有庄欣荣的金刚体内功。此外还有黄氏易筋经，金警钟 浑元一气功， 宝鼎 十三段内功。吞气或者咽气的练法似乎不是上等武学。
对了。非常推荐大家去找少北拳 王化山师傅的视频，他练成刀枪不入的功夫。
Have you tried to ge in contact with 'the wandering warrior' he is a fellow youtuber based in taiwan and does shuai jiao taiwan style and praying mantis
Yes, we know each other online, but he was in the US at the time I visited
There are kungfu enthusiast who loves kungfu by talking about it but not actually doing it.
Well Liu Kang Yi is not one of those. He practices several styles and has excellent gongfu
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I always thought taiwan was too friendly with japan to hold onto chinese culture and real kung fu. Maybe the sport wushu but never actual hung gar or choy li fut
With all do respect - deepest respects - there is definitely a different modern cultural perspective towards traditional Chinese martial arts in Hong Kong and Taiwan than Mainland China.
I have no idea why in Mainland China they - especially the government run media - feels the continual need to perpetuate this unrealistic, mythical, anachronistic, representation of Shaolin monk kung fu/chuan fa/wushu.
How often do we see Mainland China produced kung fu videos - usually by state media - on CZcams with hyperbolic titles ("Feel the Power of Kung Fu"), where the camera is sped up (undercranked), choreographed fights misrepresented to be real, and where people go flying 20 feet backwards from a palm strike? Why do they need to do this?
I far prefer the academic approach of preserving traditional Chinese martial arts that is going on in Hong Kong and Taiwan. It's far more sincere, honest, and respectful to the rich history of martial arts.
For example, there is a video that can be searched here on CZcams where preservationists in Hong Kong are making virtual 3-D recordings of surviving masters of various kung fu styles doing forms.
I agree with you on supporting the academic approach and the official perceptions of martial arts in the different places. However, in mainland China there is a lot of academic work going on, it just doesn’t get so much light shone on it for a couple of reasons: firstly, those individual martial artists/researchers don’t generally have access to western social media to promote what they are doing due to China’s firewall, and secondly the Chinese government’s official body’s aren’t offering any real support or voice to those type of people even within China. Its very much limited to grassroots
Taiwan, Republic of China
中華民國，台灣
Very nice & authentic feel