This New Move Makes HYDRAPPLE Broken!
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- čas přidán 27. 12. 2023
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Hydro Pump has a similar effect. Normally it does 0 damage, but it has a very small chance of dealing 110 damage to your opponent.
Lol
Same applies for Focus Blast, but it’s 2% to do massive damage
@@martell5437 Here in the 'biz we call it Focus Miss
I think stone edge has a similar effect, but 10 less power and it’s physical too!
The same goes for Rock Slide 🤓
Hydrapple used Fickle Beam.
Hydrapple is going all out for this attack!
Main Hydrapple Head:
"You heard 'em, GET 'EM BOYS".
Rattle em’ Bois
Well its a dragon so they can just say ”RAG ‘EM BOYS”
"FICKLE 'EM BOIS!"
@@Sabrina_Tea this is my new favorite expression
imo the strat for fickle beam is to only use it when ur fine with the 80bp chip, but to laugh ur ass off when it nukes them instead
Hydrapple is kinda like Urshifu if he didn’t see the doctor everyday
Hydrapple makes you go to the doctor every day.
I love that every VGC video has to have an over enthused 2000’s commercial esque title to help with garnering views. “This move makes Hydrapple broken! But that’s not all! If you call now!”
It would be funny if fickle beam had a chance to be 5x as powerful seems all the heads decide to fire
30% chance for 400 effective base power. It can still crit btw.
Lol I know that it's 30% for balance, but the idea of a Hydrapple just FIRIN MAH LAZOR like it's 2008 at the enemy mon for 400 power (stab ofc) is just too amazing
tbf the inner heads probably wouldn't be as strong
I like to think of it as simply the Hydrapple that commands the others is much stronger, so even the four other heads combined only equal what it can do.
Maybe some of the tume 2 heads cooperate and sometimes more.
Maybe base is 80 always but then it can be +40 per head. Capping at 240.
A dragon type magnitude. With better chanses for strong damage.
I recently saw a hydrapple next to a skill swap, trick room, hypnosis Malamar, giving it contrary, and it goes hard with leaf storm and Draco meteor, and then super sweet procs twice, making malamar’s hypnosis 100%.
I tried it out and it’s pretty fun. Not sure how competitively viable it would actually be, but I enjoyed playing it.
I keep finding this too, it’s fun
In open team sheet? Not very, I imagine, two turns of setup for the strat means all you have to do is knock out that Malamar asap. Smn like Urshifu Rapid could probably do it I imagine, plus Aqua Jet for priority. Still, I like to think it could work! I’m definitely thinking of building a and trying it for myself. Bc really, with Contrary given to it Hydrapple is basically Serperior with extra bulk, dragon typing, starting off a whopping 120 sp Atk instead of a meagre like, 80, on the other side of the speed spectrum.
Edit: Just found a teampaste someone’s already built, gonna give it a spin methinks. I was already thinking Incineroar and Amoonguss would be decent partners
@foofootoo made a contrary hydrapple team on his channel, it's got so many fun tricks.
I really want to try some serene grace skill swap team with this guy, just sounds endlessly RNG and I'm here for it
EDIT: Apparently it's not coded to work with serene grace my disappointment is immeasurable
Finally a better dragon pulse
Better Dragon Pulse that's also a better Draco meteor.
Specifically 30% of the time, but that 30% of pokemon that are hit by it are gonna wish they weren’t born.
@@inteleonarmy1838 Unless they Tera Fairy.
What if we made the signature move's effect "it can crit but again"
i like that ficklebeam is just dragon pulse but with two different chances to crit differently
This Pokémon is just “mods can we obliterate this person”
Supersweet syrup activating once is really stupid especially considering intimidate exists
Thank sleep moves for that
Fickle beam is an OHKO move that always attacks but still only has the 30% chance to OHKO
Red/green blizzard vibes
If/when we get evolutions for Flapple and Appletun in Gen 10, what do you think they would be like? For example, for Appletun, they could replace Gluttony with Well-Baked Body.
Omg now I want flapple to become a fighter jet and just have several heads raining beams of death upon everything below lol
I would like if they were all different types of dragons from throughout mythology, maybe flapple would be an amphiptere (serpentine dragon with wings and no other limbs) and appletun would be a tarasque (turtle dragon hybrid thing)
@@kyleheck5363 i imagine appletun to kinda look like a lion turtle from avatar the last airbender
@@poop.9654 ooh yeah something to that effect, I think a lion/turtle hybrid is a pretty common motif
@@inteleonarmy1838so dragapult?
I think Hydrapple is super under explored. It 4x resists both of Ogerpon Wellspring's STABs, doesn't care about Urshifu's Surging Strikes or Iron Hand's Wild Charge, and there are like three relevant ice types in the form (realistically two, but A. Ninetales is also super underexplored rn.) Yeah it's weak to Flutter Mane's D Gleam and Moonblast, but you can tera if you need to and that weakness can be further covered by partners.
Personally I think people need to stop comparing it to Amoongus just because it's bulky and has regenerator. They do separate things; Amoongus is an annoying wall that you need to be prepared for otherwise it'll sleep half your team, heal its partner, and redirect everything. Hydrapple on the other hand can just hit with two STAB nukes in Leaf Storm and Draco Meteor and then just switch out and gain back any chip it took like nothing happened. A potentially interesting core could be Palafin, Hydrapple, and Incineroar. Though who knows how good it would wind up being.
Hmmm... under rainbow terrain, this would be even stronger. You'd need a fire-water-grass trio in your team to pull it off, too, with hydrapple being the grass.
Rainbow Terrain would not boost its chance to double damage unfortunately, as it is not coded as a secondary effect (same for Serene Grace, and Sheer Force does not interact with it at all). The plus side is that Covert Cloak does not block the double damage potential either
@@itztaytay2MAN that's unfortunate. Going through covert cloak is probably more significant competitively though so you win some lose some ig
You might have seen this already, but there's a really fun strategy i've seen with supersweet syrup draco meteor hydrapple paired with contrary skill swap malamar. Using skill swap on hydrapple gives malamar supersweet syrup and causes it to activate twice, so now your opponents are at -2 evasiveness. Now if hydrapple uses draco meteor he will get boosted special attack. But wait, there's more! If you then use skill swap onto your opponents, supersweet syrup will activate again, and because hydrapple has contrary now, it gains +1 in evasiveness.
I just want to say thank you for being beginner friendly constantly. I’m still learning and learning what a “bump” means is massive and so helpful. Thank you!
I think Milotic would be a great partner for Hydrapple and a combo I will probably try out when the new rules et finally starts.
My reasoning is that they no only compliment each other in typing but Milotic is an actual useful Hypnosis user due to competitive, which also has access to other support moves that aren't 100% accurate like Icy Wind and Muddy Water (If I'm not confusing learnsets). Milotic also gets access to Dragon Cheer which will help alleviate the Sp.Att drops from Leaf Storms and Draco a lot. I dunno how much the Speed control from Icy Wind will help since it is REALLY slow, but you should be able to get some more favorable match ups
Super sweet syrup should act like intimidate and activate every time you switch in
Why does Fickle Beam remind me of “I’mma firing my Lazar”
I adore this stupid thing so damn much, he’s perfect
99% of gamblers give up before getting max fickle beam
Hydrapple is the pokemon content we've been needing. Gimme that lil apple dragon death machine.
Hydr apple gets access to sweet scent which lowers evasion 2 stages on command vs once per battle on entry, making moves like possibly even a Gouging Fire with Dragon Rush and Stone Edge consistent high damage options AND keep regenerator on the apple
Hell yeah, the hydrapple I built for the dlc has the exact same move set as the second one you showed
Gastrodon is exactly what I had in mind. It’s fun lol
Imagine being on the receiving end of that attack! Gotta be sure to not submerge an infested apple on sugar...
i run a choice specs with the same moveset as the first showcase, with it being able to switch with incineroar
Really good Sneasler showcase
I think this mon actually is gonna go crazy on restricted sun teams, since what it'll end up doing is make Venusaur sleep powder 100% accurate while it is also the fastest thing on the field
I’ve been using venu and it’s kinda mid now with most fast paradox Pokémon with booster being able to outspeed you no matter what. Running sun also boosts the opposing paradox mons so you gotta play carefully around it. Sun is strong, especially with raging bolt and the other new proto guys, but idk if venu is that guy anymore.
Hydrapple is like a gun that have both Mininuke and regular bullet into it's clip
I saw a twitter video where he placed a Hydrapple next to contrary malimar. Malimar skill swapped into the hydrapple so the opponents now have -2 evasion so Malimar can hit its hypnosis. It also gives Hydrapple Contrary so you can go for Dracos and get a plus 2 off of them. Pretty gimmicky, but funny concept.
I will be supporting you on Charlotte!!
I love this thing way more than I probably should.
I rlly like hydrapple!!
Theres a youtuber called foofootoo i saw paired it with a Malamar to skill swap Hydrapple Contrary, also you get a second evasion drop as Malamar gets supersweet syrup
If it wasen't for Fickle Beam I would love this guy. He would be a way to mitigate rng with supersweet syrup...
Then they went and gave it a move that is usually dragon pulse but sometimes it's actually roar of time haha. Not to mention... there is the insane high role potential of the empowered fickle beam crit; which game freak seemingly wants you to go for by planting the idea in your head with dragon cheer as it's evo requirement.
(I know dragon cheer is ally only but you get what I mean)
That all aside I love the tera water set in smogon singles since it bluffs hydro pump. Also I suppose in-game doubles allows bluffing aswell.
I’m waiting for hydrapple to get meme. “Me and the boys going to regionals” *hydrapple screaming*
Dragon type Pokémon are eating now boys
Could you use regenerator on the av tera poison Hydrapple? I just feel like you have to switch if you were to use draco meteor
probably the only pokemon i can see having good synergy with what looks like a generally useless move, “dragon chant”
Contrary hydrapple looks fun.
Even if the setup looks inconsistent
That's a neat showcase! Really nice sets! ^^
If it's alright to say, I thought Freezai's Contrary Skill Swap team was really cool for Hydrapple!
(If me talking about another youtuber upsets you, I understand and will delete this comment if you want, just thought it'd be nice to mention this way to play Hydrapple.)
What abt syrup bomb? Could be an interesting way for speed control
I really want to see fickle beams all out attack hit a crit but it’s a 1.8% chance, and I doubt it’ll happen enough for it to be something to worry about in competitive
Makes me happy when other people call pokemon goobers
I cant tell if he said “right” or “ripe” when he was talking about hydrapple fitting on your team and i really hope he went for the pun
its like having Strange Crits
Instruct oranguru for double fickle beam+tr shenanigans?
What about using Malamar with contrary and skillswap?
Holy hell I’m early. Well, the dragon will join my team even before the video is over
Hell Moxie Boosted the Guilty Gear fan
could you give like a tutorial on just like EV spreads in general
would be cool if loaded dice worked with Fickle Beam
I have a small question. There was already an attempt of heightening the chance of the doubled power Fickle Beam by putting Serene Grace on Hydrapple, however, that didn't work because that didn't count as a seconday effect. So... would putting Sheer Force on Hydrapple work and still let Fickle Beam release their powerful blast?
No, Fickle Beam does not interact with Sheer Force at all
Hydraple is definitely RIPE for my team!
The only down side to super sweet syrup is contry surviper.
I wonder if there would be a way to make funni beam trigger more often, hmmmmm…
Nope, it's not coded as a normal secondary effect and is not interacted with by any ability, terrain, etc. There is no unfickling the beam
If only icy wind fluttermane didn’t have 100% usage
Things could've gone south if the opposition had a tera fairy umbreon. Luckily for you, he chose another type that's somewhat decent.
bug dragon might be better typing or not but hydrapple could’ve made sense to be one. There’s multiple worms in the apple and the main one looks dragon like. Bug/dragon isn’t 4x weak to ice and loses the poison weakness but gains the rock flying ice fairy and dragon for 2x super effective, you lose the grass spore immunity but terra grass would fix that so bug dragon could work
Bug doesn’t really make sense though? Even if the Wyrm’s in Hydrapple were “Worm’s” instead, Worms aren’t insects
Im sorry but thats an incredibly stupid idea that achieves nothing and doesn't even make sense
Does serene grace make it double power more tho
It does not
Dracoapple is too cute and good ❤
Gamer sups got BCAA my guy?
Name the hydrapple "WorldEater"
I dont love the idea of using leafstorm and draco, because you essentially HAVE to switch the guy out, and youre not running regenerator because youre working off super sweet syrup
I hope Dondozo pulls a Coalossal and becomes really good again
I love sneasler
Blud forgot Regenerator
Malamar is Hydrapple's best teammate. Bar none.
Magma Storm Heatran stocks are rising
Unrelated but how did you get 2 pokemon for your icon?
Union circle
does bro own gamersupps or something?
Hey look guilty gear reference
Imagine if someone gave this thing serene grace in anything goes mode inside pokemon showdown
A lot of people already tested it and it seems like it doesn't work
Unfortunately that doesn’t work, Fickle Beam works really weirdly with abilities
That’s no fun :/
Serene Grace boosts the secondary effects of moves, which is technically not what Fickle Beam's chance to double dmg is since it's not an actual effect (such as status, stat changes, flinch, etc)
The plus side is if it did work how you wanted anything with Shield Dust or holding a Covert Cloak would be immune to the random nuking, which is not the case
Moxie. Do you take suggestions for video ideas?
Ye
@@MoxieBoosted An interesting thing I've noticed in gen 9 VGC is that many players are opting to take a turn manually setting weather with Pokemon like Tornadus and Whimmsicott rather than take advantage of free weather setters like Torkoal and Pelipper. Why do you think that is? To me the value of getting the weather effect for free when the Pokemon enters is huge opposed to giving up a whole turn for the effect. I'd love to know your opinion and I think there's enough to discuss to warrant a video.
You should try out my Mamoswine team. It has slightly off meta picks but it’s fun and the Hitmontop is possibly the most fun and effective pivot mon I have used in a while. Can deal with Incineroar as well as support Mamo, and create good matchups turn one.
Team ID: HHT9L3
Why do you never max out two stats? Like what does 4 Def, 12 Spdef and 4 Speed do instead of just going for 252 Spatk (and 4 somewhere else)? Stopping after "hitting he bump" makes sense but I don't get why that's a threshold you don't want to just hit, but hit exactly and not go over it
It's just an efficiency thing
I see, thank you
Ngl for as useful as supersweet syrup's evasion drop is, the fact that it only procs once per battle really makes me not want to use it. Switching isn't nearly as common in doubles and there are enough situations that I can see why its useful, but in situations where your opponents strategy has switching built into it it just bothers me
You can retrigger syrup with skill swap
regenerator better
@@SephyClone7ah, sweet scent at home with the potential to intimidate cycle
I know Hydrapple is right for my team because it is shaped like my best friend
I don't really understand why GF decided supersweet syrup can only activate once but intimidate can be cycled. Attack Drop > Evasiveness drop imo.
What about pairing it with skill swap Serene grace Blissey?
Serene Grace does not boost the 30% chance to double damage as it's not coded as a normal "Secondary effect". Similarly Sheer Force does not interact with the move at all
@@itztaytay2 hmmm, interesting. I feel Blissey might have a niche with the rise of Sun teams with special attackers like Walking Wake, Venusaur, Flutter, and Torkoal. Thinking of ways to fit it in some way
Had a dream Ampharos was banned in vgc for being too good in trick room teams. Idk what was my dream cooking
i don't understand why poison tera?
Fairy/poison resist
Can fickle beam go all out and crit at the same time?
Yes it can
Dark Fe tested it
Yup
Video starts at 0:00
Hydrapple is a silly Pokemon.
I’d be interested to see how an assault vest kingambit and hydrapple would pair under trick room. Self target syrup bomb and rack up defiant boosts for three turns while you get slower. I’m not sure how confident I am about its effectiveness and taking a special attack from a base 120 mon, but could be fun for casual
Defiant only works if opponents drop ur stats
@@MoxieBoosted fiddlesticks
You're usually pretty level-headed and evaluate new things well. If this title is just pure clickbait, I'm going to be upset. I trust you.
I one shot a thundurus
@@MoxieBoosted LMAO
wtf
@@MoxieBoosted LMAOOO THIS REPLY IS EVERYTHING!!!
Couldnt you run it with a king's rock maushold?
I did this and flinched a iron hands but it only triggers once so it’s unreliable
@Will1amFord I dunno why it only activates once but I guess that could just be a "in the back for the late game" strat
@@tobinator4906 can definitely mop up late game provided you get a few syrup bombs off to slow the usual late game sweepers. The flinch chance after 10 hits is insane.
Hydrapple, regardless of Fickle Beam, either 6-0s or does nothing. No in between.
I've swept full Ubers teams and gone down to a fucking family of mice. Mon's absurd.
To be fair the mice have hands, Pop Bomb is no joke
Gato=1?? Do you play gear 😭
Gato=1
Imagine if we had a spread move that acted like stored power except it removed screens and it got more powerful the more stat boosts the opposing pokemon have
I just feel bad for it. There's so much competition for being a grass type in general, let alone the competition for being a trick room special attacker.
The sunk cost of not running torkoal or bloodmoon, in addition to the sunk cost of not running rillaboom or amoongus, is just too much ground to make up imo
Moxie I will find you and steal all of your shinies unless you link the damn music you use alr
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Somewhat off topic, but I notice a lot of "So, yeah." "But, yeah" transitional phrases in your sentences. Personally, I think they degrade the quality of your script and are better off omitted. They're like filler. Cheers!
So yeah
@@MoxieBoosted Your videos are all great regardless. So yeah just wanted to clear that up 🤣 Hard to convey criticism online