Daredevil Disney+ Series To Be Much Shorter Than Originally Planned
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- čas přidán 7. 09. 2024
- John and the crew discuss the upcoming Marvel Disney Plus series Daredevil: Born Again getting a much more shortened season than originally planned.
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My relationship with the MCU is like a sports fan still supporting their team even though they suck, but like a team fan I want to see them get better again.
Great analogy I don't think the MCU sucks right just a wild card/divisional round team. Not Superbowl ready yet a few years away
@@DevDinish sucks was a harsh term to use. There have been some good games here and there.
This is good news! Old series didn’t have 18 episodes per season. Shows that go over around the 13 episode mark, you start getting filler episodes.
False. Many good written shows have 13+ episode seasons where there's no filler. Lost, The West Wing, Agents of Sheild, etc have almost no filler episodes and are all 20+ Seasons
As long as the story is good. Would rather have 13 great episodes than more episodes with fillers or duds. But hey if the story justifies it make sure all 18 are great.
Hey man, just about every banger back on the day had 23 episodes per season. I think they should go back to that. Just my own opinion
I remember when people used to complain that 13 episodes (in Marvel Netflix) was too long and that even that had filler 😅
@@Shockkings0714I agreed until you mentioned Lost and Agents of Shield 💀
I think the ideal amount for a 45-60 minute Daredevil should be 11. 13 was sometimes too much on Netflix
If Daredevil: Born Again is gonna be 13 episodes, I really hope they’re nice and long like on Netflix. No more 30 minute episodes. Make them at least 50 minutes (not including credits).
A lot changing for the better. They have a legacy to live up to. Original stunt coordinator, maybe old cast, Punisher showrunner. I see greatness
Better not be 30 minute episodes.
@@Allanfan20watch it be 6 30 minute episodes
Should be 13 one hour episodes@@icantthinkofagoodusername4575
I never wanted 18 episodes. I'm glad it's less episodes. I'd like 8-10 45 minute episodes being listed as 53 minute episodes cause of the credits. That's my ideal scenario.
I really wish Disney and or Marvel would stop giving people trivial updates on whatever it is their working on and just finish their movies and shows and put them out. This is how companies fall into the “we’re way too online / twitter brain” trap and start reacting to “online discourse” every step of the way to their own detriment. Just shut up and make quality stuff. It’s not worth doing vibe checks every 2 seconds. That often leads to self-sabotage.
It's going to be 13 episodes on a dramatically reduced budget because they already burned so much of it on the version they scrapped. If this show still manages to be good after all this it'll be a minor miracle. They seem to be taking the right steps - but I'm having a hard time overcoming my skepticism.
I feel like Netflix Marvel shows always had too many episodes. I would like a nice snappy 8-10 episode comic book show
They only had time to shoot 6 out of the 18 between start date and when the strikes stopped production. They are re-using those episodes as reports have said, plus additional scenes to be shot and a new 1st episode, so it's not cost so far quite as much as people think. They restarted shooting today.
@@carlfrancois6334 it's street level and practical, not CGI or set driven. it won't cost them anywhere near as much per episode which is why they could do 18, and they appeared to be shooting nearly as fast as the original DD. They will still have had to buy out contracts, two lots pre-production so they have definitely made those episodes cost more. The shorter season may make that up.
Honestly with the amount they actually filmed they already spent alot of money so cutting some episodes makes sense to save some money.
I think none of this matters until Marvel proves we can trust them to make a quality product again, I speak of story and acting because largely production has been a smaller drop off from the MCU peak.
Good, I thought 18 was a lot. Network shows have so much filler and 6 episodes are only working with a couple of the D+ shows so im happy with this news
As long as it's better written, don't really care
Step by step disney is reverting to what the netflix daredevil was, casting, writing, length, stunt team etc. Theyre eating humble pie on a level i havent seen before
Daredevil is back baby
If they stick with the Netflix 13-count, I'll be happy!
I could see Daredevil: Born Again being 18 episodes if it was split into two parts. But it doesn't surprise me, that this series will have fewer episodes.
Just patiently waiting for the ncu to return to form. Releases being an EVENT and not, "ah just another superhero film".
If it based in the Netflix Daredevil continuity then theirs no need to have exactly 18 episodes. 10-15 is fine but the writing has to justify it. We also complained about Netflix shows being too long.
Honestly, I felt with every single Netflix Marvel show, that the 13 episode seasons were just a little bit too long. I think with 10 episode seasons most of the shows would have been just a little bit tighter. I remember being at episodes 6 and 7 of DD, Punisher, Luke Cage and feeling like the season is coming to a close beforerealizing that it's just half way through. I don't think I can do a 18 episode overarching story. If they were to do mostly standalone episodes, procedually with a minimal story arc I could get on board with 18 episodes.
My fear (well, one of my fears) was that the episodes would only be 25-35 minutes or so. I'd rather have the Netflix model with maybe a few less episodes. I personally liked everything about that show so I would love that count but there was some filler not everyone liked. I couldn't get enough of those 3 seasons. I didn't like that show because of the character so much as it was just well written and executed.
No it was at San Diego Comic Con they announced Daredevil Born Again.
That’s good however, I don’t know if I speak for everyone but I would like to see a little more violence I mean there’s only one violent episode and echo, but they build it up like it’s violence throughout and it’s not violence
Echo was only 5 maybe 10-13 for Daredevil Born Again since they scrapped it and started again... If they re-shoot some parts of episodes done maybe longer...
I actually kinda like this news, when they announced it was gonna be 18 episodes I thought that was kinda excessive, and it had me thinking that we were only gonna get a bunch of tiny 20 minute episodes, but 13 definitely sounds like the sweet spot for me because it’s not as beefy as it was originally but it’s also still longer than the previous MCU Disney+ shows, based on everything that’s happened with this show with them scrapping most of it and going back to the drawing board it sounds to me like this is a show that they looked at the original version of, decided it wasn’t very good and so they’re going back and trying to give us something better, the World War Z example is great because when I heard what they originally had in mind it sounded weird as fuck, but after they went back and redid it we got, not one of the greatest zombie movies but a solid, entertaining one, and so maybe that’s what’s happening here, that they were originally going in a very bad, very bizarre direction with the story and so they decided to pull the plug on it and redo it, who knows? They might’ve originally had an idea that was too ambitious for their own good so they decided to tell something more streamlined, this show could be a disaster for all I know but I’m still faithful that they’re trying to turn out something great because they know how much people want this show to be great
If Marvel has thought me anything these last couple years, it’s Quality > Quantity
I would much rather have 13 QUALITY episodes than 18 stretched out QUANTITY episodes.
Yep. I am not mad at this decision
2:59 I hate to break it to ya but yeah especially with Star Wars that’s exactly what Disney did. The Obi Wan show was a movie. I’m sure Mando was originally a movie. And the same with most of the marvel cr… I mean stuff. 😂
Don’t forget, they made it 18 episodes at first because we were going to get more Matt Murdock in court as well. So less lawyer in court stuff and more budget for less episodes.
They should just brought daredevil back as a feature film. Kinda dumb to just bring back as a show.
What?
It should have never been 18 episodes to begin with. That's way to much!
I'd pick less episodes, with high quality, over loads of episodes, with low quality.
18 episode, 30 mins a pop
Won’t ever come close to the OG Netflix series anyways
Disney viewership numbers for MCU shows are hard to judge as a lot of the nerds are downloading or streaming illegally, not to mention shows base numbers are only initial viewership and you have the people that surf streamers
13 eps / 45-50 minutes long not included the credits.
The Netflix fleshed out the characters back story pretty well but at times it dragged too much. But still, thus far the Netflix show is a slow burner but the best.
MCU should have just casted with different actors is my thought.
Yep
Would it be that bad if the infinity saga was a 1 hit wonder. Maybe you just cant do that again especially becuase the time they were in was perfect
You wouldnt get shit for hiring a white tony stark or having a mostly white male team so you could do comic book acurate stuff.
The comics were doing great bcoz of civil war.
You only had spidey bats and xmen films tp compete with
Sequel fatigue hadnt set in yet
Sci fi fantsdy movies werent as big and you had large blockbuster variety.
Right place right time
Let me guess? It went from 18 episodes to only 6?
13 Episodes Is Ok
Now I understand and get that people's memory is super short so I'll be the one to drag ur memory....what's going on with the MCU is not Kevin Feige fault remember after endgame and such Bob Chapek became CEO and what did he do that's right he took creative control from the creatives and place some of his buddies in there and then order a ramp up of content from marvel which stretched Kevin Feige thin...what's going on now is Kevin Feige being brought back down and creative control being place back in the creatives hands content being chop and back to being more focus...of course there's going to be effects from those changes before Iger took back control and after but please dig in those brains I know nobody is saying all this is Kevin Feige fault but this is why the MCU is where it is right now as far as seeming to have lost its unique and special glits to it....by the way people should stop celebrating 18 or 13 episodes daredevil and focus more on how long are each episodes going to be.
True
I still think Feige miscalculated a bit. The multiverse saga wasn’t the best idea in my opinion. But Chapek and the pandemic deserve much more blame.
we can't ONLY blame Chapek for this, Disney Plus was Iger's baby, and as a reminder, Bob Chapek was made CEO on February 25th 2020, but at SDCC in 2019 was when Marvel announced the following: The Falcon and the Winter Soldier, WandaVision, Loki, What If?, Hawkeye. And a month later at D23 2019 they announced Ms. Marvel, Moon Knight, and She-Hulk. The initial push of a glut of Marvel and Star Wars shows for Disney Plus came from Iger. and I think that IF everything had been top quality, and IF we didn't have a pandemic derail the MCU freight train of momentum from one project to another, it would have been far more successful and nobody would be talking about Marvel fatigue.
@@wraithkelso sure, also Alan Horn’s disastrous firing of James Gunn and John Favreau going to work on Star Wars also had an effect. I think if they’d been around to assist Feige he could’ve handled the expansion much better.
Damn it! 🤦🏾♂️
Should have just gone in and made it season 4 and continue the Netflix version and bring everyone, including the creative team back. Anyone but Disney knew this was the way to go.
idc, i get it, I would be happy with 10 episodes, save money after all the wasted filming
What happened to the 18 episodes order
Yes the multiverse sage has been hit and miss but a lot of people just continually moan about it, imo the majority of projects have had more positive than negatives even though some negatives have ruined projects completely.
Let it go John, let it go lol!
If this show tanks, EVERYONE will be saying, Bob Iger needs to fire Feige.
Feige isn't going anywhere. There also isn't anyone that can take his place
40 - 45 minutes is the perfect length for an episode - Netflix episodes are usually too long and Disney+ is too short haha
IF YOU THINK THIS SHOW IS GOING TO BE BETTER THAN THE NETFLIX ONE THEN YOU DONT KNOW GOOD TV!!!! THERE JOHN I SAVED YOU FROM TALKING ABOUT THIS ENDLESSLY 😂
Well yeah, that’s a given.
Well you certainly sound like an angry Netflix Daredevil fanboy
Hope daredevil will not be a non binary or something 😂 with pronouns lol.
Phase One wasnt wildly entertaining. It was OK and Avengers capitalized on it. We gotta be honest about the MCU.
Phase 3 was where the mcu was firing on all cylinders. Iron man, avengers, winter soldier, and gotg were the only top tier mcu movies. Everything else was considered pretty mid at best by most. I'm a pretty hardcore mcu fan, but there seems to be some revisionist history. A lot of people even reacted to gotg vol 2 the same way many reacted to thor love and thunder.