Well there is...or the matter wouldn't still be so controversial. The analysis of his previous lap on board footage seems to suggest that the wheel flexing was progressively getting stronger. So why didn't he notice the problem? There was something just not right with his car in general...the bottoming out was far worse than those behind him, the car was squirming, the steering already seemed loose.
@@biscuitcase83 you're saying the steering seemed loose a lap earlier and therefore it wasn't the fault of the steering column? How does that logic work? Drivers have to trust their car to some degree. I know Senna disliked that Williams but on some level you persuade yourself that the car you are in isn't going to fall apart in your hands. To decide to stop mid-race whilst you are in the lead is a big call to make. I wish he had trusted his instincts about that car long before this. I wish he'd never left McLaren. Wish wish wish.
@@snaubdca7yebf No I didn't say it wasn't the fault of the steering column at all. I said something likely contributed to when abs where it actually snapped. Much like Roland Ratzenberger the day before, whose wing failed and went under the car.
The steering didn't breake before the crash. There had been oversteer before he went right into the wall. I guess Senna tried everything correcting that steering issue. So it was all about combinations which caused the crash of Senna. Oversteer, bumps, low tyre pressure, bad aerodynamics. The subfloor of the car touched the bumps.
Another thing I've never heard mentioned is that if you look in his rear view mirror at :12, on this vid, you can see him look downward, but not in to the corner, but what appears to be more centerline. As a racing driver you are always looking where you want to go... toward your exit mark. I know he was said to be on the brakes and maybe that accounts for the downward lean of the helmet, but you don't see that from him under any other video I've seen under hard braking. I suspect possibly he was looking into the cockpit trying to assess "what just happened" He was quite simply The Best.
@@sgmasterbr7629 Observei esse detalhe também. Veja pelo movimento do capacete dele que ele olha para baixo exatamente nos momentos em que o volante mais oscila, tentando entender o que estava acontecendo.
@@anthonylyons4617 I recommend reading the book Martin Zustak, Tamburello 2013. He carries out a complete analysis of the telemetry and concludes that the most likely cause is the steering column breaking. The theory of loss of traction could also be deduced using telemetry, but it does not explain the irregular movement of the steering wheel.
@@purelife9081yeh that’s what I think. What happened with Roland the day before? Do you think it had something to do with the people that tampered with sennas car tampered with Roland’s car too or made a mistake with the wrong car?
@@JamesThomas-pv5en you complot theorists that have no idea how an F1 car functions, nor don't brother to inform themselves disgust me, what an enormous amount of disrespect you're giving to Ratzenberger and Senna. Ratzenberger front wing got damaged when he spun and hit a curb, it later got dislodged and the car lost every downforce. Senna's steering collumn failed, that's why he instantly goes from turning left to going straight. Stop with this "they killed him" BS. More than 30 formula 1 drivers have died in history, and none of them where "targeted" or had """"""""""tampered"""""""""" cars. Do everyone a favor and stay as far away from F1 as you can
@@rodolfoferreira5947 infelizmente como acontece em muitas outras situações neste Mundo, nunca ninguém foi responsabilizado... mas para mim, a Williams é totalmente responsável pela falha Mecânica que aconteceu no carro conduzido pelo melhor piloto de F1 de todos os tempos... o Brasileiro, Ayrton Senna da Silva...
are you serious? he would have won easily the 94' (maybe even 95' because he would have battled the cheating Benetton car to be dq) 96' and 97' championships if hadn't died in Imola. He was inmensely superior than Hill and Villeneuve which won championships there, why would be a mistake to race for Williams?
Foi o vídeo com melhor análises gráficas bem melhor que aquele lixo que a National Geographic fez. Fantástico trabalho. Está quase que provado que a coluna de direção se partiu. É possível que as ondulações e a perda do fluxo no assoalho aerodinâmico tenho obstruído o efeito down Force e issado a roda da frente. O recapeamento pode ter acelerado a quebra justamente na parte de maior trepidação ripples and loss of flow on the aerodynamic floor have obstructed the down force effect and made the front wheel. The resurfacing may have accelerated the break precisely in the part of greater vibration It was the video with the best graphic analysis, much better than that garbage that National Geographic made. Fantastic job. It is almost proven that the steering column has broken. It is possible that vibration cause the broken in that corner
Fantastic video. Makes me sad to think of the duplicity of people like Coulthard and Hill who cannot not have known what went on. But maybe the sport as we know it today would not exist if the truth had come out, could have had draconian laws thrown at them, no racing ever again in Italy, WIlliams personnel jailed for manslaughter etc etc.
@@biscuitcase83 I take it you feel there is another explanation for the crash then? Although I am suggesting racing drivers are lying I am also showing my understanding of possible reasons they may have lied. Drivers are human like the rest of us, not some sort of perfect 'god's' who cannot do wrong.
@@madam94 No...but I don't think the steering was the only problem. I do think something, possibly the instability of the Williams and the bottoming out of the car at least contributed towards its failure. Similar to Roland Ratzenberger, Senna was moving through the fastest and bumpiest part of the track...Roland's front wing failed and went under the car as he came out of Tamburello.
@@biscuitcase83 yes but the thing is Senna’s car was fine, Ratzenberger’s front wheels also lost contact with the track causing the inability for him to turn the car
@@davideaurino697 If it was that clear there would be zero controversy or argument about the matter. It's possible it broke on track but not 100% certain.
Williams did not kill Senna, that's such a pathetic and stupid argument. Even if the steering column did break on track, to say the team killed him is ridiculous. Many racing drivers have died or been seriously injured by mechanical failures, poor workmanship or faulty design. It's tragic but it happens.
@@biscuitcase83 I know, but I think the guy that wrote the comment meant that Williams didn't do it on purpose, they made a mistake which costed senna his life
@@biscuitcase83 What corruption? What evidence the court was corrupt? And what makes you think the court was avoiding blame? Blame for what? Williams were defending charges, not the court. Williams (and the rest of F1) had a huge interest in avoiding blame, and there is the main reason why the verdict was "controversial" - nobody wanted to face up to it.
If you look at the Wiki, there is no mention of steering column breaking, the Italian findings seems to have been ignored by world. We live in 2020, we have the best simulation, best physics experts and nobody wants to go there. You could easily do this in a simulation or just build a car, rebuilt part of this track to simulate it. Drive it with remote control, and then get Ai to let go of the steering at the curve.
Yeah, I keep on hoping someone is going to do a complete simulation of the crash, but it seems that there are still people in power involved who try to maintain that Senna overcorrected and that the steering column only broke after impact. As long as team members from the 94 team are still alive, at least those who held the top positions back then, the truth will be actively suppressed. It's encouraging though, that so many people by now have learned what really happened. It's just a shame that those who know it for certain don't want to come out and admit it, but instead are spreading lies and keep assuming everyone else is stupid enough to believe them.
A explanação do defensor de Senna no inquérito, ele fala que se o carro fica sem volante, a única ação a ser tomada é o freio imediato. E isso condiz com o ocorrido.
Ainda acho que o problema iniciou com a quebra da suspensão.. Ayrton fala em teste de uma nova suspensão ou acerto.. semanas antes do GP.. em uma entrevista. Pois já tiveram problemas parecidos nós dois primeiros GPs.
There wasn't enough time to do so. However, he managed to decelerate the car from around 320 km/h to 207 km/h, reduced from 6th to 3rd gear and ht the breaks at full power. None of this was enough to avoid the fatality. One thing is true, tho: If the car was 50km/h faster or slower, he would have more chances of survival. The car hit the wall at the exact speed, angle and inclination to make the right front wheel disconnect and hit the helmet. Also, if the helmet had the visor a little smaller, it had a chance to save his life as well.
@@sierraaero in fact I've said "before the break up". The driving wheel started going everywhere way before the tamburello. The immense sensitivity of Senna, perhaps due to the hard shaking, couldn't notice that the bloody shaft was working with 10% of its cross section. It was literally bending but he stayed pedal to the metal.
@@markwilliams1941 I would also like to stress that a racing driver doesn't slow down (as we all would be doing) so easily just because of some sensations ...Senna had possibly felt something was not perfectly working about his steering system but he still kept pushing until the steering column allowed him to.
@@INDIGOBLUE555 I suppose that they have to tune problems out to a high degree and just get on with it or they will be susceptible to every kind of variation in the car.
The Steering column was moving up and down, and I never heard about it of any other F1 cars and can’t recognize its merit as and it seems very scary like you drive that Williams F1 car at that speed on Tamblero.
following this video, i'm just wondering why he didnt stop when he had feel something unnormal or he was to much on his race to feel than something s going wrong ?....
How do we possibly know that Ayrton ever asked for the steering collumn to be shortened? From people like Damon Hill who claimed it was a driving error depsite the onboard footage and veridict from the Italian court that it was a sterring failure? Williams should have been shut down and Frank, Patrick and Adrian (who recently admitted he cocked up the aerodynamics of the car) sent to jail. Considering that Willilams is now a back of the field team that will not survive the decade and the guilt that these 3 criminals must still have how can we say that justice was not delivered - even if +25 years later? RIP Great Champion.
The car was designed for Prost. Senna found it to be uncomfortable and asked for the steering column to be shorter. They didn't have time to have a new one made, so the existing one was shortened.
@@richaw11 The car was actually designed for Mansell who was a much bigger chap. Did you hear Senna saying this or was this story actually peddled by those who eventually blamed him for the accident - like Patrick Head, Adrian Newey and Damon Hill? Why should we take their word for a request that may have never happened?
@@richaw11 I used to think that too, but the column was actually lengthened, by being cut in half and a thin copper tube welded to connect both parts. I guess Senna wanted the steering wheel to be positioned closer to his chest, so he would have a better force leverage to turn it. Maybe it's related to how difficult the car was to drive in those first 2 GPs.
With the whole car bottoming out theory, wouldn’t the crash have happened on the first lap of the restart not the second? His tyres would have been more up to temperature on his second lap and would increase his ride height.
I think the car bottoming out theory can make sense since you have to remember it's a chaotic system, it's not always possible to predict how it''s going to react. My issue is the car cant bottom out for 15 feet. He would have been able to correct at least a little bit, but you can still see the wheels pointed straight ahead... that's not going to happen if it's bottoming out.
@@KyleP133 Yes, that's the whole point which destroys the bottoming out theory. It doesn't rob the car from downforce to such an extent, nor does it unsettle it for so long as to cause a driver to just jump on the brakes and wait for impact. The theory is mainly supported by people who don't have even a basic understanding of tyre and race car vehicle dynamics, nor how it all looks from a race driver's perspective.
@@eduardonewtonkrepskykrepsk1245 sim Mas tem os dados da telemetria que constatam que ele escapou a 310 e bateu na parede a 216 km/h. Ainda era começo de corrida, tinha muito combustível. Mas na classificação ele passava ali a 320 /330
Olá.. eu já estava planejando fazer um vídeo contando detalhes ocultos desse fatídico acidente com Senna. Irei usar usn trechos de seu vídeo e vou colocar os créditos do seu canal. Eu descobri o que realmente aconteceu nesta pilotagem momentos antes da batida..antes da volta 7 e na curva Tamburello! Mesmo a equipe apagando um trecho,fica evidente a quebra da barra de direção, onde foi modificada..por causa deste detalhe! 😢🇧🇷
Alguma coisa muito errada aconteceu aí...tem muita estória falsa rolando nesta história toda.... 1° Bara da direção quebrou... Mas porquê ele não vira o volante? 2° se ver o vídeo do shumi, que vem logo atrás.....porque o Senna não freia?.. deveria aparecer uma fumaça enorme dele freiando... Tem muita coisa errada nesta história...e nunca vão contar a história toda
Do not forget that it was also Senna who had asked to shorten the steering column ^^ if Ayrton would not have found himself so close to his steering wheel at the time of impact he would surely have escaped .... in indeed the column had been very clearly shortened :( RIP.
Crazy how long is that colum from it's support bearing point. Every engineer will say that it is a weak point because forces you apply at the wheel combined levering coefficient. And because everything in F1 is made light it was probably made from aluminium tube.
Tem muita coisa não contada nesta história 1° a barra quebrou... Blz, mas porquê ele não vira o volante? 2° porque ele não freia?.... Isto fica claro no vídeo da câmera do shumi que vem logo atrás..... Alguma coisa de errada não está certa nesta história
@@rodolfoferreira5947Senna Realmente Tentou Virar O Volante, Ele Também Freiou, Reduzindo De 300km/h Para 200km/h, Mas Não Houve Tempo Para Ele Freiar Totalmente, E Então, Aconteceu O Acidente Fatal
Ing.Forghieri working as an official consultant for Imola Circuit Org. released a video interview (available on YT) and,objectively,his theory deserves some attention imho. Making it short he states that Senna did overrate the steering progressive failure.Forghieri is suggesting the steering was actually loosing responsiveness yet being still functional at some extent. Senna did overestimate the lack of response of the steering and accordingly just tried to stop the car which was pretty much a bad idea for he was entering the curve in the region of 190mph. I had no recollection of this theory and I really felt surprised listening to him in video. Evidently he was backing the theory of Senna making a wrong judgment, trying to slow the car,the steering still being responsive enough to allow the car go through the Tamburello. That could make sense albeit I'd like to highlight a basic point: assuming Senna felt he couldn't do anything but slow the car he should have gone hard on the brakes. Surprisingly enough,there were no skidmarks on the pavement.I'd like Forghieri to explain how did Senna's speed decrease from 190mph to 115 or so, in a three seconds time without leaving any evidence of such a hard braking action on the track surface,and amazingly with no smoke from the tyres.
Senna braked efficiently, on the limit, in a straight line, just like he would do in actual braking zones for corners. As for him misjudging that problem with the steering, I doubt it. The car changed direction very abruptly, which suggests the steering column snapped. The fact that it was hanging outside the car after the crash and that the material analysis confirmed it was fractured 60% or more before breaking off completely, tells us that Senna had no steering. Had he tried to turn more, it would have made no difference.
@@hristoitchov Since that day I kept wondering how could he reduce his speed from 304 km to approx.180 while no skidmarks were left and no smoke could be seen from tyres. Was he still able to downshift ??I have clear recollection of one of the italian tv speakers which was at the Tamburello curve who in the close aftermath ( Senna still in the wreck) did highlight ""..how is it,no skidmarks on the track pavement..."" In the years a few accidents did occur in that very same fraction of the track (Tamburello curve) all of them were at full speed and you'll see smoke and skidmarks resulting from locked wheels. On CZcams you can watch at Alboreto, Berger, Piquet and Patrese shocking shunts just there.
@@INDIGOBLUE555 But I already explained that to you above. He simply braked on the limit of the tyres, without overstepping it, without locking up. That's why there are no marks, no smoke. It also proves had all the grip of the tyres available and would have steered away if he could. The fact that he decided to brake so hard means he realized he couldn't do anything else. Those other accidents that happened at the corner happened for different reasons, either punctures or broken suspension. Of course in those situations the driver would be skidding along the track, with locked wheels.
@@hristoitchov Yes I get the point,as you do highlight Senna had the normal grip and tried to decrease his speed acting as in usual braking action. Thanks for your explanations.
@@INDIGOBLUE555 There is a picture of tamburello the next day with all the flags, flowers, at the place he hit the wall : on the concrete surface that follows the grass border, the tyres marks are clearly visible up to the impact on the wall...so sad to see this ! I think he locked the wheels there because concrete had much less grip than the asphalt. To resume as I already read many times : Ayrton did a perfect braking to reduce speed in an emergency situation. RIP
0:09 , 0:22 The bullets from the right side coming out of trees from automatic rifle killed Senna, right after these bullets hit Senna and his car, there was a flickering noise in the onboard footage, and at the very exact same second Senna's head slumped down and went unconscious. I'm not a conspiracy theories fan, I just only truely believe this is what happened. This is my opinion.
yes i agree with you. It's completely my guess, but I think Ayrton knew something about the darkness of the world that he shouldn't know.Senna's helmet also has beautiful round holes. The conventional wisdom is that the suspension arm went through the helmet, but I don't think it would have been possible to make such a perfect clean hole without being shot with a gun. Again,I personally think Ratzenberger's accident is suspicious.
sin duda la columna de dirección estaba rota y es notable el desespero que muestra Senna al ver que su vehiculo no giro en la curva, sino que sintio que perdio el control del vehiculo, siguiendo derecho al muro sin control, piso el freno a fondo pero su velocidad era muy grande aun asi solo logro recortar poco menos de 250 km, y a esa velocidad y sin direccion ya era incontrolable, es extraño pero, todo hace pensar que hubo una mala re-modelacion de la columna de dirección, y para la escuderia renault, cubrirse de responsabilidades, aparentemente arreglaron todo, para que pareciera que los sensores seguian leyendo como si la columna no estaba rota, Y ES FALSO, este sensor estaba colocado en la seccion de la barra que si seguia aun moviendose por inersia, dando a entender que no estaba rota, hace pensar que hubo algun complot, para asesinar a Senna, tambien debio investigarse bien a fondo algun incidente, algun problema con alguien de la escuderia, deudas, algun enemigo resinllas, o sencillamente esta escuderia necesitaba quitarse de encima a Senna por algun motivo, un evento extraño es que las camaras que usan estos coches de carrera, estan equipados con camaras muy resistentes a los movimientos anti statica, anticrach, y que casualidad que la camara se apago justamente al momento de ocurrir el accidente, casi se podria pensar que fue apagada, por alguien quien sabe a control remoto, eran momentos cruciales en los que se requerian este tipo de pruebas, si observan videos de accidentes, en la red CZcams, en las autopistas, ocurren accidentes mucho peores, mucho mas fuertes de alto impacto, son este mismo tipo de camaras de los que estaba equipado los vehiculos, en estos accidentes la camara sigue grabajando incluso hasta despues de estrellarse, o volcar o cualqier impacto, y quedan encendidas hasta agotar energia, y como se justifica que se apagara en ese preciso momento, pero pudo mas la negligencia, la corrupcion, la venta y desparición de pruebas, expedientes y procesos amañados entre otros, SIN DUDA SOSTENGO QUE ESTE PILOTO EL MAS GRANDE DE TODOS LOS TIEMPOS, FUE ASESINADO, alguien, alguna empresa rival, alguien pago mucho dinero por la muerte de este piloto, un accidente bien planificado, todo lo de la barra de direccion, el apagado de la camara, el borrado de segundos de la ECU necesarios para la investigacion, algunos trabajadores de la seguridad de este auto probablemente pagados, todo apunta a eso, y aun asi la justicia NUNCA LLEGO PARA este y su familia, pero de la justicia de DIOS nadie escapa.
I'm wondering if the restart cooled the tires, and if the undercarriage touched the pavement at that moment where he reached that apex, that the steering column DID break, and not losing traction because the tires weren't warm enough, and undercarriage bouncing the car into the wall?
If he still had control of the car like they said, wouldn't he have drifted more sideways into the wall? instead of hitting it at such a sharp angle with his front right tire.
No doubt! Senna was shaking the car on the steering as usual. He had no chance for countersteering left as the car wanted to go right. We will never know if it was just the fact that his car´s underneath where touching the ground, as many racing drivers said about it or if it really happened because his steering wheel broke exactly there. But that video gives us a clue that the last one is just what kind of a possibility to have happened. But as that video reveals, the steering wheel allready where not really stable before Tamborello. What might be interesting and sad as well would be the question how long the "construction" had been unstable and could he have noticed before the pit entry and could he have just avoided the crash to have happened by noticing earlyer. And then last but not least the question: "Did he notice and just went on driving instead of stopping before it was too late?" Because I think that is what makes a survivor or a dead racing driver all about.... even though I love Ayrton Senna...
O que aconteceu na segunda lombada, 0:10, foi o mesmo que aconteceu na ultima lombada uma correção para fora e o carro tracionado e pulando deu o rebote para fora da pista.
If he did a correction to the outside why don’t you see the steering wheel or any of the cars tires go to the left??? His head is literally bobbing to the left meaning he wanted to turn the car to the left
Bravo Sagitt, ottimo lavoro come sempre. Ho trovato su youtube il video del giro in prova dove Ayrton saluta Prost, si vede nitidamente il passaggio al Tamburello con la leggerissima curvatura del volante per affrontare la curva verso sinistra. Non noto particolari oscillazioni rispetto a quelle, evidentissime, della domenica durante la gara. Inserisco il link per quanto di tuo interesse : czcams.com/video/W5YCdB4v6NU/video.html.
Personne ne se pose la question , si la colonne de direction a cassé après une soudure . C est un assassinat !!! Alors qu ont aurait pu lui changer toute la voiture . . Personne ne se pose la question de se mystère
quebra da barra de direcao .muitos falam que foi o carro baixo e os areofolio nada disso .fizeram uma barra de direcao muito ruim quabra em 6 voltas ate carrinho de plastico e mais forte
o carro deu 6 voltas e quebra a barra de direcao so se for de plastico ninguem e tao ingenuo pra se fraga que foi de proposito pra matar senna isso e notavel
Ou ele desmaiou ou o acelerador travou. Ele teve cerca de 10 segundos pra tirar o pé do acelerador a partir do momento que o volante começa a tremer e o carro fica desgovernado. Muito estranho. O volante solto e a velocidade aumentando
The tire frame skeleton doesnt move even when you overlayed with the vid and the real tires are moving... The idea started good... But now what do expect here...? You dont get any result with that observation...
I recently read an interview with Adrian Newey who still believes that the steering column did not brake. The car bottomed out due to low tire temperature.
Even if the tyre pessure went down in the safety car-driven laps, they had made one full lap before the accident; why the crash didn't happen on lap 6 then? tyres were cooler than compared to one lap later. Additionally, how long would tyres regain full pressure after a cool down period?
What else was Adrian Newey supposed to say? That he and his team committed a shameful mistake? That such a "great genius" as Newey and his "welding champion " Patrick Head did not have the courage to admit their mistake? No way ! They are the same people as Flavio Briatore and his Benetton, Option 13, Launch Control, Traction Control, the removed fuel filter etc.
He's obviously going to say that. Prost said 'i have to be careful what I say' which says everything. Ron Dennis said the same thing more or less. A lot of people know what happened but won't say it.
Low tire pressures and Senna made the third best lap of the RACE the lap before on that day... impossible to achieve if the pressures on the tires were not on par. One lap later the tires would have even more heat - more pressure). Adrian says (and said) what he needs to say to not miss continuing to grow as a "great F1 designer/stablished designer". As simple as that.
Your'e right, i forgot the description. This is the camera-car as released by FOCA. I recreated the partial model of the Williams (from blueprint), I applied the system similarly to how it was done by CINECA (University of Bologna) tracing the yellow button, I reconstructed the steering wheel from the technical drawings collected by the site www.ayrtondasilva.net (which I understand is no longer active), I superimposed the steering wheel following the rotation and positioning of the yellow button.
@@sagitt76 Thanks, man. I appreciate the amendment, and I also appreciate the work you did there. How accurate do you think it is? In other words, how confident can we be that it is indeed capturing the true movement and position of the steering wheel relative to the cockpit? How much "room for interpretation" there is, or how much can the person in charge of the simulation influence the outcome?
@@andre.1984 I think we are very close to reality; already during the trial the analysis of CINECA left the defenders Williams stunned; finally they replied with the testimony of David Coulthard, who stated (and there is also a "horrendous" video) that the F1 had a very, very flexible steering column..
@@sagitt76 Also, I'm interested about another thing. The focus has been on the steering wheel, but what about the actual wheel? The left tyre is visible, and I bet that the same sort of simulation should be able to measure the angle of the wheel to correlate with the steering input. It looks to me that once Senna lost control of the car, the wheel is not responding. But I would like to see that being measured.
01 Motobeatle , sorry.. Pelo que me parece o problema foi quando ele ja estava na tamburello na curva.. Esta a mais de 300 km/h , desacelerou , mas n tanto!
He was at 300+ km/h and could reduce to 200km/h before the crash. What killed him was a suspension arm in his head, otherwise, probably he would be still live.
Senna asked them to rebuild that colum with the clear objective to made more space into the cockpit with what purpose i don't know Hill hadn't such problems and the two cars were identical.And because they didn't have enought time to order it to a subcontractor or to manufatured it they did some structural changes.I didn't find them guilty that was a Senna's wish.And the colum's lenght was the same for the two races before why Senna didn't want for that change before Imola's GP.I suppose that he badly needed that extra space to put the Austrian's flag into the cockpit and that's why the changes maded at the last possible moment.What did Williams can do when they hadn't enought time to change that part.And that's not a simple change but a change in the construction of the mechanics of the car and that's not a simple task.
He didn't want more room, he wanted the steering wheel extended so it's closer to his chest. It was built for Prost and didn't suit Senna's preferred position (plus he also wanted a bigger steering wheel in diameter). As for Hill, he was still very inexperienced and didn't have any authority to demand such things. The change was actually done weeks ago, not just before the Imola weekend. It took some time for the copper tube to fatigue and crack. Still doesn't mean Williams are not guilty for doing a poor work, it's their obligation. They could have said to Senna that they had no time to do a proper change, instead of hiding the truth and exposing him to such a risk. Senna had every right to demand the modification, it's his life on the line.
@@hristoitchov Where did you get the information that it was made of copper? In the drawings the material is listed as EN14 (2S92) steel. The diameter of the inserted part was reduced because of regulations concerning how much space there must be in the cockpit. This was explained in Adrian Neweys book (How To Build A Car). What is really strange is that this inserted piece (where the column snapped) was not a tube, but a machined part. it is possible that bad manufacturing of this part led to the snapping of the column.
@@riipper666 It was the information I saw very long ago, but you're probably right that it was steel. From what I found now, the additional part wielded to both parts of the original column was made out of two types of steel - T45 and EN14. As for the diameter being reduced because of regulations, I don't see the logic in it. It's just that they didn't produce a new long column, but cut the original and inserted that thin-wall tube, wielding it on both sides. From the images of the column, it looks like it fatigued and snapped very close to its lower end, where the wielding was made between the new part and the original piece.
@@hristoitchov You are right, there is no real logic behind the reducing of the column. Newey said it was made because of regulations but the way it was made was very bad. As I understand it, the original column was made out of T45 steel and the insert piece (to lenghten the column) was made of EN14 steel. Anyhow, I don't think the welding played a crucial part in the breaking of the column. The welds are not very close to the point of breaking. I think it is a wide spread believe that the column broke from the position of the weld, which is not true. The column broke at the fillet where there was a small radius. This is a natural place for stress concentration because of small fillet radius. From structural point of view it is quite clear that the design of the insert part was very bad and very likely resulted in the breaking of the column. If you are interested in the subject, I have made a study about the column. Its available at: www.dropbox.com/s/wr2vq835gfrlhe1/analysis-of-the-FW16-steering-column-revB.pdf?dl=0
The steering column failed because it was moved, it was moved because Senna was crying about not being comfortable and needing some space, meanwhile Hill had no problem at all; Williams did nothing wrong.
Don't be ridiculous. Drivers have every right to demand such things and it's up to the team to do a proper job. If they can't, they have no right to be quiet about it and expose their driver to risks, not to mention it also costs them results at the very least. And it wasn't for space, the column length was actually extended. Hill was still a nobody at the time, he just drove whatever he was given. In his book he says he only ever had a comfortable cockpit in 1996 when he learned how to present himself better within the team and to look after his own interest.
@@hristoitchov yhea. And even then we all saw what Williams did to pushy drivers. By the midle of the 96 season Hill already knew Frank had sacked him from the team for 1997.
Senna was no Rookie he had a finely honed ability and could tell if the steering was beginning to fail. If the steering failed Ayrton would have known about it long before Tamburello. Senna knew the corner was dangerous and the following Villeneuve corner as witnessed the previous day, it's crazy to think Senna couldn't tell if his steering was beginning to fail. It was a slow puncture on the rear left wheel and sudden deflation on corner exit to Tamburello.
It was very important for Senna to win at all costs, even at the cost of health. It was the only occasion to tribute Ratzenberger's death, which is why he was carrying an Austrian flag in his FW16 car. Withdrawing from the race was not an option. Ayrton put all one’s eggs in one basket. Unfortunately, he failed.
How could anyone tell that a steering is beginning to fail? If it means that the wheel trembles then yes we all know about the "moving" yellow button and we also have the video of lap 6 where Senna looks at his steering wheel at least in 3 occassions.
@@markwilliams5540 Looking 3 times straight to his steering wheel implies that he noticed something was wrong with his column, right? Don't forget that we "see" his wheel trembling but he "feels" that trembling. Isn't it normal after you feel your wheel shaking in your hands to take a look at it ?
@@haristopal8664 I dont think he was looking down I think he was looking at Schumacher in his mirrors to see what sort of a gap he had built up. I think Senna would have radioed in any issue to the team.
Fantastic video, there's no doubts about the streering broke problem.
Well there is...or the matter wouldn't still be so controversial.
The analysis of his previous lap on board footage seems to suggest that the wheel flexing was progressively getting stronger. So why didn't he notice the problem?
There was something just not right with his car in general...the bottoming out was far worse than those behind him, the car was squirming, the steering already seemed loose.
Yes... There is. It Brooke after.
@@biscuitcase83 you're saying the steering seemed loose a lap earlier and therefore it wasn't the fault of the steering column? How does that logic work? Drivers have to trust their car to some degree. I know Senna disliked that Williams but on some level you persuade yourself that the car you are in isn't going to fall apart in your hands. To decide to stop mid-race whilst you are in the lead is a big call to make. I wish he had trusted his instincts about that car long before this. I wish he'd never left McLaren. Wish wish wish.
@@snaubdca7yebf
No I didn't say it wasn't the fault of the steering column at all.
I said something likely contributed to when abs where it actually snapped.
Much like Roland Ratzenberger the day before, whose wing failed and went under the car.
The steering didn't breake before the crash. There had been oversteer before he went right into the wall. I guess Senna tried everything correcting that steering issue. So it was all about combinations which caused the crash of Senna. Oversteer, bumps, low tyre pressure, bad aerodynamics. The subfloor of the car touched the bumps.
Another thing I've never heard mentioned is that if you look in his rear view mirror at :12, on this vid, you can see him look downward, but not in to the corner, but what appears to be more centerline. As a racing driver you are always looking where you want to go... toward your exit mark. I know he was said to be on the brakes and maybe that accounts for the downward lean of the helmet, but you don't see that from him under any other video I've seen under hard braking. I suspect possibly he was looking into the cockpit trying to assess "what just happened" He was quite simply The Best.
Great attention to that detail, i never noticed. Maybe this confirms that Senna was feeling something strange with the steering wheel.
@@sgmasterbr7629 Observei esse detalhe também.
Veja pelo movimento do capacete dele que ele olha para baixo exatamente nos momentos em que o volante mais oscila, tentando entender o que estava acontecendo.
he was looking toward the apex, trying to lean in as much as he can as some desperate attempt to fight the car
I'll take the opinions of Damon hill over youtube experts. He lost traction overcorrected and crashed the steering column broke on impact
@@anthonylyons4617 I recommend reading the book Martin Zustak, Tamburello 2013. He carries out a complete analysis of the telemetry and concludes that the most likely cause is the steering column breaking. The theory of loss of traction could also be deduced using telemetry, but it does not explain the irregular movement of the steering wheel.
Great work....and its sad to think....if only the steering wheell had broken before one of the chicanes....
They killed him purposely they knew he will never survive exactly at that corner.
@@purelife9081 what the fuck my man?, No one never knew it would happen
@@purelife9081yeh that’s what I think. What happened with Roland the day before? Do you think it had something to do with the people that tampered with sennas car tampered with Roland’s car too or made a mistake with the wrong car?
@@JamesThomas-pv5en you complot theorists that have no idea how an F1 car functions, nor don't brother to inform themselves disgust me, what an enormous amount of disrespect you're giving to Ratzenberger and Senna. Ratzenberger front wing got damaged when he spun and hit a curb, it later got dislodged and the car lost every downforce. Senna's steering collumn failed, that's why he instantly goes from turning left to going straight. Stop with this "they killed him" BS. More than 30 formula 1 drivers have died in history, and none of them where "targeted" or had """"""""""tampered"""""""""" cars. Do everyone a favor and stay as far away from F1 as you can
Epic work with this reconstruction, big respect sagitt, I watched your other works too. Hats off!
Williams totalmente responsável pela falha Mecânica do carro conduzido pelo melhor piloto de F1 de todos os tempos...
Muito triste, um erro drástico
Foi um acidente ou foi um assassinato?
Quem tiver em 2022 me conta ok?
Alguma coisa de errada não está certa nesta estória.
@@rodolfoferreira5947 infelizmente como acontece em muitas outras situações neste Mundo, nunca ninguém foi responsabilizado... mas para mim, a Williams é totalmente responsável pela falha Mecânica que aconteceu no carro conduzido pelo melhor piloto de F1 de todos os tempos... o Brasileiro, Ayrton Senna da Silva...
Melhor piloto de todos os tempos.😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅 Vc é um q deve ter conhecido o Sena depois q ele morreu.. maioria conhece o Sena depois de 01/05/94
Great video!! Great reconstruction!!
Senna's actual mistake was to have signed a contract with Williams.
are you serious? he would have won easily the 94' (maybe even 95' because he would have battled the cheating Benetton car to be dq) 96' and 97' championships if hadn't died in Imola.
He was inmensely superior than Hill and Villeneuve which won championships there, why would be a mistake to race for Williams?
@@miguelelgueta5830 Because the Williams car killed him.
@@yurisucupirathat was on the FIA bc banned tech like launch control traction control active suspension aka driver aids was a contributing factor
@@yurisucupira No the rule changes (No active suspension) , killed Senna.
AMAZING WORK. Thanks from Brazil
Foi o vídeo com melhor análises gráficas bem melhor que aquele lixo que a National Geographic fez.
Fantástico trabalho.
Está quase que provado que a coluna de direção se partiu.
É possível que as ondulações e a perda do fluxo no assoalho aerodinâmico tenho obstruído o efeito down Force e issado a roda da frente.
O recapeamento pode ter acelerado a quebra justamente na parte de maior trepidação
ripples and loss of flow on the aerodynamic floor have obstructed the down force effect and made the front wheel.
The resurfacing may have accelerated the break precisely in the part of greater vibration
It was the video with the best graphic analysis, much better than that garbage that National Geographic made.
Fantastic job.
It is almost proven that the steering column has broken.
It is possible that vibration cause the broken in that corner
Fantastic video. Makes me sad to think of the duplicity of people like Coulthard and Hill who cannot not have known what went on. But maybe the sport as we know it today would not exist if the truth had come out, could have had draconian laws thrown at them, no racing ever again in Italy, WIlliams personnel jailed for manslaughter etc etc.
Accusing racing drivers of lying is also disgusting.
@@biscuitcase83 I take it you feel there is another explanation for the crash then? Although I am suggesting racing drivers are lying I am also showing my understanding of possible reasons they may have lied.
Drivers are human like the rest of us, not some sort of perfect 'god's' who cannot do wrong.
@@madam94 No...but I don't think the steering was the only problem. I do think something, possibly the instability of the Williams and the bottoming out of the car at least contributed towards its failure.
Similar to Roland Ratzenberger, Senna was moving through the fastest and bumpiest part of the track...Roland's front wing failed and went under the car as he came out of Tamburello.
@@biscuitcase83 yes but the thing is Senna’s car was fine, Ratzenberger’s front wheels also lost contact with the track causing the inability for him to turn the car
DC went so far as to blatantly lie and say that the Williams steering shaft was designed to move around like it was on lap 6 and 7. Total rubbish.
Amazing work, reaffirm what the world saw, the broken steering column out of the car, Williams killed Senna
Which could still have happened on impact
@@biscuitcase83 no, it was broken before the impact, just look at how the steering wheel is moving. It was clearly broken and it caused the crash
@@davideaurino697
If it was that clear there would be zero controversy or argument about the matter.
It's possible it broke on track but not 100% certain.
Williams did not kill Senna, that's such a pathetic and stupid argument.
Even if the steering column did break on track, to say the team killed him is ridiculous.
Many racing drivers have died or been seriously injured by mechanical failures, poor workmanship or faulty design. It's tragic but it happens.
@@biscuitcase83 I know, but I think the guy that wrote the comment meant that Williams didn't do it on purpose, they made a mistake which costed senna his life
the court already decided that the cause of that fatal accident is steering column failure..
A corrupt Italian court who would certainly want to avoid any blame of their own.
That's why their decision is still controversial
@@biscuitcase83 What corruption? What evidence the court was corrupt? And what makes you think the court was avoiding blame? Blame for what? Williams were defending charges, not the court. Williams (and the rest of F1) had a huge interest in avoiding blame, and there is the main reason why the verdict was "controversial" - nobody wanted to face up to it.
@@ilferrari Yes. And Senna had instincts about that useless car. He knew there was something wrong with it.
Damn this is so saddening to watch
If you look at the Wiki, there is no mention of steering column breaking, the Italian findings seems to have been ignored by world. We live in 2020, we have the best simulation, best physics experts and nobody wants to go there. You could easily do this in a simulation or just build a car, rebuilt part of this track to simulate it. Drive it with remote control, and then get Ai to let go of the steering at the curve.
Yeah, I keep on hoping someone is going to do a complete simulation of the crash, but it seems that there are still people in power involved who try to maintain that Senna overcorrected and that the steering column only broke after impact. As long as team members from the 94 team are still alive, at least those who held the top positions back then, the truth will be actively suppressed.
It's encouraging though, that so many people by now have learned what really happened. It's just a shame that those who know it for certain don't want to come out and admit it, but instead are spreading lies and keep assuming everyone else is stupid enough to believe them.
As of 2024, there's 9 mentions of "steering column" at the Wiki.
Grande ricostruzione
0:38 reminds me of the intro for the F1 2008 DVD review
The FIA Williams and everybody knows what happened
Its like a plane crash investigation
I really don't like Frank Williams. Some of these F1 bosses are more like mafiosos than bosses of sports teams.
911
THE STEERING BROKE .
Impressionante esse estudo sobre a quebra da coluna de direção.
A explanação do defensor de Senna no inquérito, ele fala que se o carro fica sem volante, a única ação a ser tomada é o freio imediato. E isso condiz com o ocorrido.
Ainda acho que o problema iniciou com a quebra da suspensão.. Ayrton fala em teste de uma nova suspensão ou acerto.. semanas antes do GP.. em uma entrevista.
Pois já tiveram problemas parecidos nós dois primeiros GPs.
the cut the onboad video too to save williams a55
Great job man.
I've always thought it was incredible that Senna didn't park the car before the break up
There wasn't enough time to do so. However, he managed to decelerate the car from around 320 km/h to 207 km/h, reduced from 6th to 3rd gear and ht the breaks at full power. None of this was enough to avoid the fatality. One thing is true, tho: If the car was 50km/h faster or slower, he would have more chances of survival. The car hit the wall at the exact speed, angle and inclination to make the right front wheel disconnect and hit the helmet.
Also, if the helmet had the visor a little smaller, it had a chance to save his life as well.
@@sierraaero in fact I've said "before the break up".
The driving wheel started going everywhere way before the tamburello. The immense sensitivity of Senna, perhaps due to the hard shaking, couldn't notice that the bloody shaft was working with 10% of its cross section.
It was literally bending but he stayed pedal to the metal.
@@bragee exactly Senna was no fool he would have parked it if he thought it unsafe.
@@markwilliams1941 I would also like to stress that a racing driver doesn't slow down (as we all would be doing) so easily just because of some sensations ...Senna had possibly felt something was not perfectly working about his steering system but he still kept pushing until the steering column allowed him to.
@@INDIGOBLUE555 I suppose that they have to tune problems out to a high degree and just get on with it or they will be susceptible to every kind of variation in the car.
fantastic work, what a proove.
Chi ha cliccato il pollice verso in questo video deve essere per forza Patrick Head.
una scuderia che fa un lavoro del genere non andrebbe nemmeno ammessa alla partecipazione di un mondiale di formula 1, robe da matti!!
Fantastic!
The Steering column was moving up and down, and I never heard about it of any other F1 cars and can’t recognize its merit as and it seems very scary like you drive that Williams F1 car at that speed on Tamblero.
following this video, i'm just wondering why he didnt stop when he had feel something unnormal or he was to much on his race to feel than something s going wrong ?....
He had already spun in the first race and someone crashed into him at the first turn at the second race, so he wanted to win in imola so much
Obrigado, Thank you, gracias - Saludos desde Brazil. Great work man.
How do we possibly know that Ayrton ever asked for the steering collumn to be shortened? From people like Damon Hill who claimed it was a driving error depsite the onboard footage and veridict from the Italian court that it was a sterring failure? Williams should have been shut down and Frank, Patrick and Adrian (who recently admitted he cocked up the aerodynamics of the car) sent to jail. Considering that Willilams is now a back of the field team that will not survive the decade and the guilt that these 3 criminals must still have how can we say that justice was not delivered - even if +25 years later? RIP Great Champion.
The car was designed for Prost. Senna found it to be uncomfortable and asked for the steering column to be shorter. They didn't have time to have a new one made, so the existing one was shortened.
@@richaw11 The car was actually designed for Mansell who was a much bigger chap. Did you hear Senna saying this or was this story actually peddled by those who eventually blamed him for the accident - like Patrick Head, Adrian Newey and Damon Hill? Why should we take their word for a request that may have never happened?
@@richaw11 I used to think that too, but the column was actually lengthened, by being cut in half and a thin copper tube welded to connect both parts. I guess Senna wanted the steering wheel to be positioned closer to his chest, so he would have a better force leverage to turn it. Maybe it's related to how difficult the car was to drive in those first 2 GPs.
WOW. Thank you.
With the whole car bottoming out theory, wouldn’t the crash have happened on the first lap of the restart not the second? His tyres would have been more up to temperature on his second lap and would increase his ride height.
I think the car bottoming out theory can make sense since you have to remember it's a chaotic system, it's not always possible to predict how it''s going to react. My issue is the car cant bottom out for 15 feet. He would have been able to correct at least a little bit, but you can still see the wheels pointed straight ahead... that's not going to happen if it's bottoming out.
@@KyleP133 Yes, that's the whole point which destroys the bottoming out theory. It doesn't rob the car from downforce to such an extent, nor does it unsettle it for so long as to cause a driver to just jump on the brakes and wait for impact. The theory is mainly supported by people who don't have even a basic understanding of tyre and race car vehicle dynamics, nor how it all looks from a race driver's perspective.
This is what i was looking for, for years. There is no doubt to me that this is what was the cause of Senna´s fatal accident.
Camera is vibrating on the heavy bumps distort the image too much. It is a pity we will never know what happened.
Espetacular nunca tinha visto esse video!
@@eduardonewtonkrepskykrepsk1245 Não, o máximo foi 320
@@eduardonewtonkrepskykrepsk1245 sim Mas tem os dados da telemetria que constatam que ele escapou a 310 e bateu na parede a 216 km/h. Ainda era começo de corrida, tinha muito combustível. Mas na classificação ele passava ali a 320 /330
That Stering move so much 😭😭😭
R.I.P Senna the king of track wet
Olá.. eu já estava planejando fazer um vídeo contando detalhes ocultos desse fatídico acidente com Senna.
Irei usar usn trechos de seu vídeo e vou colocar os créditos do seu canal. Eu descobri o que realmente aconteceu nesta pilotagem momentos antes da batida..antes da volta 7 e na curva Tamburello!
Mesmo a equipe apagando um trecho,fica evidente a quebra da barra de direção, onde foi modificada..por causa deste detalhe! 😢🇧🇷
Alguma coisa muito errada aconteceu aí...tem muita estória falsa rolando nesta história toda....
1° Bara da direção quebrou... Mas porquê ele não vira o volante?
2° se ver o vídeo do shumi, que vem logo atrás.....porque o Senna não freia?.. deveria aparecer uma fumaça enorme dele freiando...
Tem muita coisa errada nesta história...e nunca vão contar a história toda
@@rodolfoferreira5947 na verdade o que concluímos é só teoria..só o Senna e o Criador da vida sabe o que ocorreu naquele exato momento!
Do not forget that it was also Senna who had asked to shorten the steering column ^^ if Ayrton would not have found himself so close to his steering wheel at the time of impact he would surely have escaped .... in indeed the column had been very clearly shortened :(
RIP.
Crazy how long is that colum from it's support bearing point. Every engineer will say that it is a weak point because forces you apply at the wheel combined levering coefficient. And because everything in F1 is made light it was probably made from aluminium tube.
Thank you so much!! 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Fantástico trabajo, yo pienso que sucedió asi..........
Alguem sabe explicar por que a filmagem do retrovisor mostra que a cabeça de sena estava mole como se ja estivesse desacordado antes da curva?
Tem muita coisa não contada nesta história
1° a barra quebrou... Blz, mas porquê ele não vira o volante?
2° porque ele não freia?.... Isto fica claro no vídeo da câmera do shumi que vem logo atrás.....
Alguma coisa de errada não está certa nesta história
@@rodolfoferreira5947Senna Realmente Tentou Virar O Volante, Ele Também Freiou, Reduzindo De 300km/h Para 200km/h, Mas Não Houve Tempo Para Ele Freiar Totalmente, E Então, Aconteceu O Acidente Fatal
Na verdade ele estava forçando, e a telemetria (mostrando que ele desacelerou) mostra que ele estava bem acordado.
@@rodolfoferreira5947
1-) Ele virou o volante. Porém, já que a coluna estava quebrada, de nada adiantou.
2-) Ele pisou no freio.
Great work!
Ing.Forghieri working as an official consultant for Imola Circuit Org. released a video interview (available on YT) and,objectively,his theory deserves some attention imho.
Making it short he states that Senna did overrate
the steering progressive failure.Forghieri is suggesting the steering was actually loosing responsiveness yet being still functional at some
extent.
Senna did overestimate the lack of response of the steering and accordingly just tried to stop the car which was pretty much a bad idea for he was entering the curve in the region of 190mph. I had no recollection of this theory and I really felt surprised listening to him in video. Evidently he was backing the theory of Senna making a wrong judgment, trying to slow the car,the steering still being responsive enough to allow the car go through the Tamburello.
That could make sense albeit I'd like to highlight
a basic point: assuming Senna felt he couldn't do anything but slow the car he should have gone hard on the brakes.
Surprisingly enough,there were no skidmarks on the pavement.I'd like Forghieri to explain how did Senna's speed decrease from 190mph to 115 or so, in a three seconds time without leaving any
evidence of such a hard braking action on the
track surface,and amazingly with no smoke from the tyres.
Senna braked efficiently, on the limit, in a straight line, just like he would do in actual braking zones for corners. As for him misjudging that problem with the steering, I doubt it. The car changed direction very abruptly, which suggests the steering column snapped. The fact that it was hanging outside the car after the crash and that the material analysis confirmed it was fractured 60% or more before breaking off completely, tells us that Senna had no steering. Had he tried to turn more, it would have made no difference.
@@hristoitchov
Since that day I kept wondering how could he reduce his speed from 304 km to approx.180 while no skidmarks were left and no smoke could be seen from tyres.
Was he still able to downshift ??I have clear recollection of one of the italian tv speakers which was at the Tamburello curve who in the close aftermath ( Senna still in the wreck) did highlight ""..how is it,no skidmarks on the track pavement...""
In the years a few accidents did occur in that very same fraction of the track (Tamburello curve) all of them were at full speed and you'll see smoke and skidmarks resulting from locked wheels.
On CZcams you can watch at Alboreto, Berger, Piquet and Patrese shocking shunts just there.
@@INDIGOBLUE555 But I already explained that to you above. He simply braked on the limit of the tyres, without overstepping it, without locking up. That's why there are no marks, no smoke. It also proves had all the grip of the tyres available and would have steered away if he could. The fact that he decided to brake so hard means he realized he couldn't do anything else.
Those other accidents that happened at the corner happened for different reasons, either punctures or broken suspension. Of course in those situations the driver would be skidding along the track, with locked wheels.
@@hristoitchov Yes I get the point,as you do highlight Senna had the normal grip and tried to decrease his speed acting as in usual braking action. Thanks for your explanations.
@@INDIGOBLUE555 There is a picture of tamburello the next day with all the flags, flowers, at the place he hit the wall : on the concrete surface that follows the grass border, the tyres marks are clearly visible up to the impact on the wall...so sad to see this ! I think he locked the wheels there because concrete had much less grip than the asphalt. To resume as I already read many times : Ayrton did a perfect braking to reduce speed in an emergency situation. RIP
senna forever. the best pilot f1
0:09 , 0:22
The bullets from the right side coming out of trees from automatic rifle killed Senna, right after these bullets hit Senna and his car, there was a flickering noise in the onboard footage, and at the very exact same second Senna's head slumped down and went unconscious.
I'm not a conspiracy theories fan, I just only truely believe this is what happened.
This is my opinion.
yes i agree with you. It's completely my guess, but I think Ayrton knew something about the darkness of the world that he shouldn't know.Senna's helmet also has beautiful round holes. The conventional wisdom is that the suspension arm went through the helmet, but I don't think it would have been possible to make such a perfect clean hole without being shot with a gun. Again,I personally think Ratzenberger's accident is suspicious.
sin duda la columna de dirección estaba rota y es notable el desespero que muestra Senna al ver que su vehiculo no giro en la curva, sino que sintio que perdio el control del vehiculo, siguiendo derecho al muro sin control, piso el freno a fondo pero su velocidad era muy grande aun asi solo logro recortar poco menos de 250 km, y a esa velocidad y sin direccion ya era incontrolable, es extraño pero, todo hace pensar que hubo una mala re-modelacion de la columna de dirección, y para la escuderia renault, cubrirse de responsabilidades, aparentemente arreglaron todo, para que pareciera que los sensores seguian leyendo como si la columna no estaba rota, Y ES FALSO, este sensor estaba colocado en la seccion de la barra que si seguia aun moviendose por inersia, dando a entender que no estaba rota, hace pensar que hubo algun complot, para asesinar a Senna, tambien debio investigarse bien a fondo algun incidente, algun problema con alguien de la escuderia, deudas, algun enemigo resinllas, o sencillamente esta escuderia necesitaba quitarse de encima a Senna por algun motivo, un evento extraño es que las camaras que usan estos coches de carrera, estan equipados con camaras muy resistentes a los movimientos anti statica, anticrach, y que casualidad que la camara se apago justamente al momento de ocurrir el accidente, casi se podria pensar que fue apagada, por alguien quien sabe a control remoto, eran momentos cruciales en los que se requerian este tipo de pruebas, si observan videos de accidentes, en la red CZcams, en las autopistas, ocurren accidentes mucho peores, mucho mas fuertes de alto impacto, son este mismo tipo de camaras de los que estaba equipado los vehiculos, en estos accidentes la camara sigue grabajando incluso hasta despues de estrellarse, o volcar o cualqier impacto, y quedan encendidas hasta agotar energia, y como se justifica que se apagara en ese preciso momento, pero pudo mas la negligencia, la corrupcion, la venta y desparición de pruebas, expedientes y procesos amañados entre otros, SIN DUDA SOSTENGO QUE ESTE PILOTO EL MAS GRANDE DE TODOS LOS TIEMPOS, FUE ASESINADO, alguien, alguna empresa rival, alguien pago mucho dinero por la muerte de este piloto, un accidente bien planificado, todo lo de la barra de direccion, el apagado de la camara, el borrado de segundos de la ECU necesarios para la investigacion, algunos trabajadores de la seguridad de este auto probablemente pagados, todo apunta a eso, y aun asi la justicia NUNCA LLEGO PARA este y su familia, pero de la justicia de DIOS nadie escapa.
Well maybe the Sir himself at Williams is guilty.
Great video. Has Martin Zustak seen this?
amazing. this is proof. dont u have more videos on this crash?
try searching on my channel..
I'm wondering if the restart cooled the tires, and if the undercarriage touched the pavement at that moment where he reached that apex, that the steering column DID break, and not losing traction because the tires weren't warm enough, and undercarriage bouncing the car into the wall?
Amazing job!
If he still had control of the car like they said, wouldn't he have drifted more sideways into the wall? instead of hitting it at such a sharp angle with his front right tire.
no doubt about it the steering snapped and that's why he ain't here now RIP SENNA
How hard would it have been to see the string column broken? I ask because I am no expert, perhaps an expert can answer this question.
Perfect!
But the wheels (tires) and suspension are moving too
it move until arrived at tamburelo curv
No doubt! Senna was shaking the car on the steering as usual. He had no chance for countersteering left as the car wanted to go right. We will never know if it was just the fact that his car´s underneath where touching the ground, as many racing drivers said about it or if it really happened because his steering wheel broke exactly there. But that video gives us a clue that the last one is just what kind of a possibility to have happened. But as that video reveals, the steering wheel allready where not really stable before Tamborello. What might be interesting and sad as well would be the question how long the "construction" had been unstable and could he have noticed before the pit entry and could he have just avoided the crash to have happened by noticing earlyer. And then last but not least the question: "Did he notice and just went on driving instead of stopping before it was too late?" Because I think that is what makes a survivor or a dead racing driver all about.... even though I love Ayrton Senna...
e bom que esclareceu
Pourquoi le casque et la voiture ont ete détruit. . On nous cache quelque chose . Ke sais pas quoi . Mais c est vraiment tres mystérieux.
O que aconteceu na segunda lombada, 0:10, foi o mesmo que aconteceu na ultima lombada uma correção para fora e o carro tracionado e pulando deu o rebote para fora da pista.
If he did a correction to the outside why don’t you see the steering wheel or any of the cars tires go to the left??? His head is literally bobbing to the left meaning he wanted to turn the car to the left
incredible...GREAT VIDEO..Congratrs......Finaly show the Guilty's here..Team Williams..!!!!
After the chicane I think he's pushing it to see if it's gonna brake. Sadly it did not.
Wow it really seems like he's shaking the steering, also looking down!
1:13, man, how much it's moved over, man.mmm
levei muito tempo pra saber porque o campeao senna moreu. agora sei esta imagem mostra tudo......
Bravo Sagitt, ottimo lavoro come sempre.
Ho trovato su youtube il video del giro in prova dove Ayrton saluta Prost, si vede nitidamente il passaggio al Tamburello con la leggerissima curvatura del volante per affrontare la curva verso sinistra.
Non noto particolari oscillazioni rispetto a quelle, evidentissime, della domenica durante la gara.
Inserisco il link per quanto di tuo interesse : czcams.com/video/W5YCdB4v6NU/video.html.
Personne ne se pose la question , si la colonne de direction a cassé après une soudure . C est un assassinat !!! Alors qu ont aurait pu lui changer toute la voiture . . Personne ne se pose la question de se mystère
quebra da barra de direcao .muitos falam que foi o carro baixo e os areofolio nada disso .fizeram uma barra de direcao muito ruim quabra em 6 voltas ate carrinho de plastico e mais forte
I still wonder when he felt the steering was a problem, could he not brake at that speed ?
o carro deu 6 voltas e quebra a barra de direcao so se for de plastico ninguem e tao ingenuo pra se fraga que foi de proposito pra matar senna isso e notavel
Ou ele desmaiou ou o acelerador travou. Ele teve cerca de 10 segundos pra tirar o pé do acelerador a partir do momento que o volante começa a tremer e o carro fica desgovernado. Muito estranho. O volante solto e a velocidade aumentando
A evidência mostra que ele tirou o pé do acelerador ao notar que o carro havia desgovernado e pisou no freio com tudo.
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The tire frame skeleton doesnt move even when you overlayed with the vid and the real tires are moving... The idea started good... But now what do expect here...? You dont get any result with that observation...
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A FIA vai tirar esse vídeo do CZcams
True steering column failed
Esse Vídeo Derruba Literalmente Todas As Teorias Que Dizem Que Senna Foi Assassinado, Pelamor De Deus, Povo Doido...
I recently read an interview with Adrian Newey who still believes that the steering column did not brake. The car bottomed out due to low tire temperature.
Even if the tyre pessure went down in the safety car-driven laps, they had made one full lap before the accident; why the crash didn't happen on lap 6 then? tyres were cooler than compared to one lap later. Additionally, how long would tyres regain full pressure after a cool down period?
What else was Adrian Newey supposed to say? That he and his team committed a shameful mistake? That such a "great genius" as Newey and his "welding champion " Patrick Head did not have the courage to admit their mistake? No way ! They are the same people as Flavio Briatore and his Benetton, Option 13, Launch Control, Traction Control, the removed fuel filter etc.
He has to say that. May even believe it to some degree. In his heart of hearts he must know tho.
He's obviously going to say that. Prost said 'i have to be careful what I say' which says everything. Ron Dennis said the same thing more or less. A lot of people know what happened but won't say it.
Low tire pressures and Senna made the
third best lap of the RACE the lap before on that day... impossible to achieve if the pressures on the tires were not on par. One lap later the tires would have even more heat - more pressure).
Adrian says (and said) what he needs to say to not miss continuing to grow as a "great F1 designer/stablished designer". As simple as that.
Who's the original author of this video and what's the original source? This is critical information for credibility.
Your'e right, i forgot the description. This is the camera-car as released by FOCA. I recreated the partial model of the Williams (from blueprint), I applied the system similarly to how it was done by CINECA (University of Bologna) tracing the yellow button, I reconstructed the steering wheel from the technical drawings collected by the site www.ayrtondasilva.net (which I understand is no longer active), I superimposed the steering wheel following the rotation and positioning of the yellow button.
@@sagitt76 Thanks, man. I appreciate the amendment, and I also appreciate the work you did there. How accurate do you think it is? In other words, how confident can we be that it is indeed capturing the true movement and position of the steering wheel relative to the cockpit? How much "room for interpretation" there is, or how much can the person in charge of the simulation influence the outcome?
@@andre.1984 I think we are very close to reality; already during the trial the analysis of CINECA left the defenders Williams stunned; finally they replied with the testimony of David Coulthard, who stated (and there is also a "horrendous" video) that the F1 had a very, very flexible steering column..
@@sagitt76 If you have the link to that video, can you post it here? Thanks!
@@sagitt76 Also, I'm interested about another thing. The focus has been on the steering wheel, but what about the actual wheel? The left tyre is visible, and I bet that the same sort of simulation should be able to measure the angle of the wheel to correlate with the steering input. It looks to me that once Senna lost control of the car, the wheel is not responding. But I would like to see that being measured.
Williams want to know your location...
If was like this reconstrucción, all williams team should go to prission!!!
eu vi os mecanicos da wiliams rindo inclusive aquele cabeludo
o botao amarelo do volante desce pra baixo
The car bottomed at the wrong moment, that simple , the drive bar didn't break, that's mythology ..
They killed him
I think that the accident is the cause of the steering column.
But why did not Sena stop the car?
He should have known a sign
01 Motobeatle , sorry.. Pelo que me parece o problema foi quando ele ja estava na tamburello na curva.. Esta a mais de 300 km/h , desacelerou , mas n tanto!
He was at 300+ km/h and could reduce to 200km/h before the crash. What killed him was a suspension arm in his head, otherwise, probably he would be still live.
He certainly braked but ran out of road/run off area.
Foi isto mesmo a solução paleativa? Serrrar esta de brincadeira... não tem base
cai a direcao
You can already see the bloody thing hanging on for dear life before tamburello. What a joke piece of engineering.
Senna asked them to rebuild that colum with the clear objective to made more space into the cockpit with what purpose i don't know Hill hadn't such problems and the two cars were identical.And because they didn't have enought time to order it to a subcontractor or to manufatured it they did some structural changes.I didn't find them guilty that was a Senna's wish.And the colum's lenght was the same for the two races before why Senna didn't want for that change before Imola's GP.I suppose that he badly needed that extra space to put the Austrian's flag into the cockpit and that's why the changes maded at the last possible moment.What did Williams can do when they hadn't enought time to change that part.And that's not a simple change but a change in the construction of the mechanics of the car and that's not a simple task.
He didn't want more room, he wanted the steering wheel extended so it's closer to his chest. It was built for Prost and didn't suit Senna's preferred position (plus he also wanted a bigger steering wheel in diameter). As for Hill, he was still very inexperienced and didn't have any authority to demand such things. The change was actually done weeks ago, not just before the Imola weekend. It took some time for the copper tube to fatigue and crack. Still doesn't mean Williams are not guilty for doing a poor work, it's their obligation. They could have said to Senna that they had no time to do a proper change, instead of hiding the truth and exposing him to such a risk. Senna had every right to demand the modification, it's his life on the line.
@@hristoitchov Where did you get the information that it was made of copper? In the drawings the material is listed as EN14 (2S92) steel. The diameter of the inserted part was reduced because of regulations concerning how much space there must be in the cockpit. This was explained in Adrian Neweys book (How To Build A Car). What is really strange is that this inserted piece (where the column snapped) was not a tube, but a machined part. it is possible that bad manufacturing of this part led to the snapping of the column.
@@riipper666 It was the information I saw very long ago, but you're probably right that it was steel. From what I found now, the additional part wielded to both parts of the original column was made out of two types of steel - T45 and EN14.
As for the diameter being reduced because of regulations, I don't see the logic in it. It's just that they didn't produce a new long column, but cut the original and inserted that thin-wall tube, wielding it on both sides.
From the images of the column, it looks like it fatigued and snapped very close to its lower end, where the wielding was made between the new part and the original piece.
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You are right, there is no real logic behind the reducing of the column. Newey said it was made because of regulations but the way it was made was very bad.
As I understand it, the original column was made out of T45 steel and the insert piece (to lenghten the column) was made of EN14 steel. Anyhow, I don't think the welding played a crucial part in the breaking of the column. The welds are not very close to the point of breaking. I think it is a wide spread believe that the column broke from the position of the weld, which is not true. The column broke at the fillet where there was a small radius. This is a natural place for stress concentration because of small fillet radius. From structural point of view it is quite clear that the design of the insert part was very bad and very likely resulted in the breaking of the column.
If you are interested in the subject, I have made a study about the column. Its available at: www.dropbox.com/s/wr2vq835gfrlhe1/analysis-of-the-FW16-steering-column-revB.pdf?dl=0
@@riipper666 Thanks, I'll check it out!
The steering column failed because it was moved, it was moved because Senna was crying about not being comfortable and needing some space, meanwhile Hill had no problem at all; Williams did nothing wrong.
Don't be ridiculous. Drivers have every right to demand such things and it's up to the team to do a proper job. If they can't, they have no right to be quiet about it and expose their driver to risks, not to mention it also costs them results at the very least. And it wasn't for space, the column length was actually extended. Hill was still a nobody at the time, he just drove whatever he was given. In his book he says he only ever had a comfortable cockpit in 1996 when he learned how to present himself better within the team and to look after his own interest.
@@hristoitchov yhea. And even then we all saw what Williams did to pushy drivers. By the midle of the 96 season Hill already knew Frank had sacked him from the team for 1997.
Senna was no Rookie he had a finely honed ability and could tell if the steering was beginning to fail. If the steering failed Ayrton would have known about it long before Tamburello. Senna knew the corner was dangerous and the following Villeneuve corner as witnessed the previous day, it's crazy to think Senna couldn't tell if his steering was beginning to fail. It was a slow puncture on the rear left wheel and sudden deflation on corner exit to Tamburello.
It was very important for Senna to win at all costs, even at the cost of health. It was the only occasion to tribute Ratzenberger's death, which is why he was carrying an Austrian flag in his FW16 car. Withdrawing from the race was not an option. Ayrton put all one’s eggs in one basket. Unfortunately, he failed.
How could anyone tell that a steering is beginning to fail? If it means that the wheel trembles then yes we all know about the "moving" yellow button and we also have the video of lap 6 where Senna looks at his steering wheel at least in 3 occassions.
@@haristopal8664 well anyone could tell if their steering response was almost severed and Senna had the best feel for a car anyone has ever seen.
@@markwilliams5540 Looking 3 times straight to his steering wheel implies that he noticed something was wrong with his column, right? Don't forget that we "see" his wheel trembling but he "feels" that trembling. Isn't it normal after you feel your wheel shaking in your hands to take a look at it ?
@@haristopal8664 I dont think he was looking down I think he was looking at Schumacher in his mirrors to see what sort of a gap he had built up. I think Senna would have radioed in any issue to the team.
Fake total
senna was going way too fast man he sucked in reality
Too fast into a flat out corner?
One of the best drivers ever 'sucked' did he?
Take your trolling to a crash video where a man wasn't killed.
Shut up kid