How do you see the Mitch Marner situation playing out? | Jay on SC
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- čas přidán 7. 07. 2024
- Mark Masters joins SC with Jay Onrait to share how he thinks the Mitch Marner saga will play out over the next couple of months, whether he believes the free agent additions on defence have fixed the Leafs' blue line, if he feels the goaltending duo of Joseph Woll and Anthony Stolarz is good enough, and the chances of Easton Cowan cracking Toronto's roster next season.
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Short answer: nothing, long answer: absolutely nothing.
The Leafs know exactly what the Marner situation is; it's the Toronto sports media causing all the rumours who don't know anything.
And that includes TSN (TorontoStupidityNitwits). They seem to always be wrong about everything.
Run it back babyyyyyyyyy bounced 1st round game 7 again let’s goooooooo
Better than missing the playoffs for 11 years like they have done in the past.
@@STONE69_ I guess accepting playoff failure is the new seasonal depression
@@shawn4white more to life than following a couple of hockey teams LOL. If they win or they lose, who cares? The players are the ones that are most effected from the loss...If they do win a Cup, will it change your life? Will your life be any better?? Of coarse not, thats because you really don't win nothing, they do, not you.
@@STONE69_ oh no it won’t effect my life at all, being a fan of any team doesn’t really reward you with anything meaningful. There’s better things to do with your free time too than watch your favourite sport teams.
If Marner truly wants to be in Toronto he would sign a contract that proves he wants to be there.
Phoque he is not worth the cost
So IMO I dont think they;re trading Marner at all. I think what's going to happen is if Marner underperforms u let him walk in FA and if he overperforms (in the playoffs mind u) u let JT walk in FA and give the C to Matthews.
Losing him for nothing makes no sense
@@jred1817 Keeping him when he has a no trade no move clause and has made it clear he's not leaving makes no sense when he CONSTANTLY UNDERPERFORMS in the playoffs and I would argue cost us this year.
I think if he plays bad he'll get buried in the lineup to the point where he will want a trade...
@@Mrvegas6666 thats the thing though. he DOESNT play bad in the regular season but then disappears in the Post season.
@@davidfitzpatrick6535 to bad, they signed that contract. They must fulfil it as it were years past. Otherwise Marner could Sue for large$$$$
Shanny has got to go! What was he thinking handing over the Leafs to a rookie GM and coach beats the fuck outta me! Dubas stripped the cupboards and people are wondering why Tre didn’t make more moves
No one wants the Leaf players - all chokers.
shanny also screwed up by not green lighting a marner trade before last years july 1st
Treliving did a great job hopefully Hockeypaw is healthy enough to sign we shall see.
Marner was dangling during the all-star game… I just wish this guy was fearless and tried these plays with confidence in the playoffs. He just locks up, he needs to loosen up, play less tight, carefree…. in the 83rd game!!
How is anybody excited for this year, the same core of forwards who continually can’t get it done in the playoffs, we know exactly what’s going to happen..
Fixed the defence? Added a couple guys on the wrong side of 30, and a guy who may or may not be able to play. Great solution.....ummmm no.
Top 4 is fixed. Tanev and Reilly great combo, Benoit and mc cabe great combo. Good mix of offensive and shut down. Hope the 3rd pairing can do their job. Their defence is fixed, idk if you thought we’d land prime shea webber but you gotta draft those guys, younger good defencmen don’t get let go often
@@NickRants This is not Stanley Cup level. Marner, Tavares are dead weight 20 million plus. Mathews is a big wimp and Nylander is good but not great. This team sucks.
@@robbryce4884 Tavares isn’t dead weight, just not worth 11 mil. Mathew’s has the best shot in the league and marner is one of the best playmakers. Nylander doesn’t go into corners well but he’s a very good player elsewhere. They can definitely win a cup. They took multiple conference champions to game 7 round one losing by a goal. Teams very close, defence finally looks strong
@@NickRants Yes, you are correct that Tavares isnt dead weight, hes a solid player but no where near 11 million, so for that reason the money is dead weight. Mathews has a great shot but in the playoffs they get someone on him who keeps him from getting into position, hes big and not that fast. He is NOT a playoff performer. Period, and dont argue that because his record speaks for itself! Nylander is all flash, he cant be physical enough to make a Cup run, no chance and dont even start with Marner. AND THATS THE CORE 4!!! Come on man, its long past time to face the facts. Defense is all right now, but nothing great and Woll needs to stay healthy. This team sucks!!!
@@robbryce4884 the core is offensively strong, marner and Mathew’s are great defenders… they just don’t body check as much. Problem with Mathew’s was coaching, they couldn’t figure out plays to get him open and in good positions. Nylander isn’t good defensively, however he makes up for it with offensive talent. Tavares isn’t worth 11 mil but it’s the price we paid for when he was a 100 point player. You can’t get that much better with his money off the books anyways. He is still top 20 centres in the league. I’d love to see kadri back, he’d be what we need second line centre and move Tavares to third line where he thrives
The Core 4 guarantees a 100+ point season and a playoff spot.
Still a weak defence and goaltending that will look good in the regular season.
I think Mitch will have a stellar contract year season. He will talk about free agency and the league will pay him 12M per year for 5 years
Let it Go , it’s July .
Does TSN not realize there is 20 other great sports going on this summer.
Which ones? Baseball sucks to watch except for playoffs. Same for football. Basketball is unwatchable(not just because of its NHL-lateral schedule). Soccer is good for maybe a 20 second highlight package. Golf is the only other sport that a guy can watch
How many times can you guys talk about this same topic?
Talk about the Leafs=many clicks. Talk about other teams, not so much.
It's so crazy to think they will try and resign Marner. Like when Marner and Tavares see gone we have 20some mil to use to sign knies, mintin, and Cowan and Robertson long term. Like crucial signings.
robertson a crucial signing? Hes looking elsewhere!
Minten and Cowan have 4 years before we have to give a contract, knies is closest and a must sign. Cap will probably jump a lot by that point.
This team is hilarious they enjoy staying bad compared to contenders in there division
Pretty sure Jack Hughes doesn’t have trade clause Marner for Hughes is what I want in NJ
A nice 12.5*8 contract waiting for him
No trade clause and a handy after ever period.
Would be great contract for the Leafs but may be insultingly low offer for a player of his quality.
@@skeptic10 Are you his Agent? Does he drive a line? What personal and team awards has he earned? Mitch may think he is a Gawd. But he ain't.
@@skeptic10get off the drugs. 😂
What???@@skeptic10
Give him the 'C'!
If Marner’s next year’s playoff performance improves to a level - where the Leafs Core 4 takes the Leafs to the Eastern Conference Final - then with that promise/hope maybe the Leafs should resign Marner.
If Marner screws up again next spring in the playoffs - resigning Marner for the long term is likely a mistake. 😀
Leafs organization is a joke
yep and people pay tons to watch and support it?
Marner signs for more but JT will sign for less
I don't see leafs doing anything but waiting this year out, so they can resign mitch to the deal he wants. They don't have the guts to make a move or force him in some way to accept a move. They just think it's best to get Tavares off the books and sorta retool around what they have.
I would trade him for some depth and maybe a high profile d-man
“That would’ve led the leafs blue line” Yeah I would hope a guy that won the cup had more goals than the guys that won 3 games
I dont get the Marner hate. Subas signed the contract every player tries to get paid on their big contract. Wait out the year then nake a decision. I dont get the Marner hate hes beeb the best player on the team
Pray
It's not a degree, it's a doctorate.
wrong: A doctorate is the highest degree you can earn in an academic field or profession.
Signing Woll long term is the same mistake Pittsburgh made by signing Jarrett long term.
If they resign Marner, they’ll lose at least one lifelong Leaf fan based purely on principle. This is incredibly disrespectful to their legions of loyal fans.
If they lose fans than they're just Marner fans, not leafs fans
@@jennatolls7424 @bjryan9296 the leafs fanbase is a cult of idiocracy lol. just as dysfunctional as leafs management and MLSE.
Marner will walk in FA next year
Tavares' contract will be gone too. That opens up 22M for the Leafs. Shesterkin and Rantenan are UFAs next July
I just don't want Easton Cowen to get his bell rung early in his career. He is a small guy.
Granted it's only July, but they've done virtually nothing 😂. The ball is in marners court and he's well within his rights to run out his term.
Don’t really care stay or go don’t matter to me
Leafs out first round
obviously, if they make the playoffs
You seam confident, they will make, like they get a free pass lmao. It doesn't work that way, they have to earn it. Injury can easily derail those dreams.
Boston and Florida are the two teams to beat to make it out of the Atlantic. Their team (with the fluff four) will not make it past the 2nd round Same as last year and the year before that , etc, etc ..
One playoff round win in 20 years . Absolutely brutal!
I see Marner playing out his contract and putting up 110 points. Then cashing in big time in free Agency. You can get him a little cheaper now, or pay a lot more later.
You forgot to mention disappearing act in one round of playoffs.
Cheaper? He’s already overpaid, soft as baby poo, a big immature whiner, and a proven elimination game choker. Don’t quote his stats to me. He fails the eye test… and with Matthews on his line his stats are inflated.
@@i.p.knightly149 why did he disappear? #1 He was still not fully recovered from his injury. #2 Willy was dealing with Concussion symptoms(he was seeing double) #3 Mathews was very sick with a virus. ...So you and your misinformed buddies, know absolutely nothing about hockey.
@@STONE69_ I'm not an expert like you... at making excuses The Leafs are the only team in the nhl that deals with injuries and sickness, I know. Why did they lose to Montreal after leading 3-1? Why did they lose to Columbus? Why do they always choke against Boston? Why do they always choke period? Keep those excuses rolling, it must be a full-time job. This core SUCKS.
@@i.p.knightly149 bro you are living in a fantasy world. This is a 10th place team. Compare this lineup with the very top teams, there is your answer lmao!!
I see Marner staying, The shakeup occurs after Tavares contract expires.
Leafs are stuck with this guy until his contract comes up for renewal
Shoulda kept Boosh
So if they get eliminated first round? Run in it again? I mean they are clearly nuts. Good players good players it's hard to get good players. What a joke!
I wouldn’t trade marner for nothing, it’s a contract year, he will play well, from there we see if he’s worth resigning. I’d give him 9 mil now, nothing more
8x12 mil, otherwise he walks with nothing in return, huge setback for this team. Will miss the playoffs for years to come.
@@STONE69_ marner isn’t the end all be all on this team. Mathew’s gets him a lot of points because his sniper shot is unreal. They did very well without him when he got injured and domi did well. I’d give him 9x8 at most. When it comes to trading him you won’t do it for nothing, you’d do it for a good offer. Personally I’d get kadri and a defender. I’m also bias cause I loved kadri and think he’s exactly what we are missing. If marner leaves so be it, we have him for his contract year where players usually do very well.
@@NickRants Just saying, when Marner walks and JT turns to dogsheit, this team is done. Mathews being American, will demand a trade and its over.
@@STONE69_ Mathew’s is locked down, if he demanded a trade anytime soon we would be getting one of the biggest trade packages of all time. Tavares is on his way out but I’m confident he will take a huge pay cut to stay here and help the team. Tavares isn’t a good 2nd line centre but he’s a very good third line centre which will give us depth. If marner walks we got 11 million more to work with. That’s why I’d try and do a trade involving marner and kadri cause he’d be perfect second line centre( I doubt marner would wave to go to Calgary but you never know) Marners great but he’s expensive and the way we are built we cannot give another 11+ million to a winger. Dubas caused this by giving a restricted free agent all that money. If marner cared he’d take a pay cut
MARNER .... 14 MILL X 8 YRS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I SEE IT PLAYING OUT BADLY CUZ THIS ORGANIZATION IS ASS
What's next for the leafs?
Another 1st round exit
Hes not a guy u pay 10 million a year for idc what his numbers are this season
Stevens on Kariya...please no!
2024-2025 looks like a ground-hog day, rewind.
They will run it back and lose in the first round again.
let marner walk
If the Leafs run it back, then I'm going to really enjoy hearing the kid get booed. He's a selfish little worm. Who, the Leafs would do just as well to let him walk into FA, and free up all that money. If you can get Seth Jones for him then do it. But otherwise good riddance
Stupid post.
Tanev deal is stupid. The guy is 34 years old and has a no trade 6 year contract. This organization is a joke.
With the two bozos running the team in Shanahan & Treliving he will walk for nothing next year.
not mutch,
Marner signs extension ,eventually in about ten years he retires as the greatest Leaf of all time .
Marner will walk and become the most hated leaf off all time🤣
If Marner leaves, so do the playoffs.
@@johnsummerhill8323Leafs fan are too emotional to see clearly... I'm a Leafs fan, but IK it's none of the players faults. They have absolutely shit D for years... There's nothing you can do with a flimsy D line in the playoffs. The contracts are too stacked up front for sure, but that's not Marner's fault. People act like he wouldn't be a lock on the first line of Team Canada with McDavid if they went to a tourney right now. Can't blame Leafs fan really, same shit over and over again.
LOL
Zero insight from Mark Masters as usual.
If you can't sign Mariner to a league minimum X 5 and no trade available, left him walk next summer to free up some cap space.. Same with JT
Cap space for what? Name the star players you think would play in Canada.
@@johnsummerhill8323 dumb question
@@kaptinkuntry3092 Answer the question. You can't.
@@johnsummerhill8323 you want an answer to a dumb question but then say I can't, pick a lane.
Get rid of Marner
Is Hailey W a real doctor or a Jill Biden doctor?
Do your research before you post a stupid question.
If Treliving “fixed the defence” because it was Craig Button’s wish; then this team has more fundamental issues than I thought. No team should be taking Button’s advice on anything.