Ep. 35 - How to get an amazing Piano Gloss Finish on the Hammer Home Theater Sub| Home Theater Gurus
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Get a perfect PIANO GLOSS base coat clear coat finish on your home theater speakers. Hammer DIY subwoofer . Home Theater Gurus. DIY Sub woofer.
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* warning* Auto paint is high VOC so wear a mask made to filter vapors. Harbor Freight has these pretty cheap. You should use a mask with any high VOC paint even canned spray paint. If you smell anything it's not good enough. Notice I wear one except when I sprayed the base coat. It was a low VOC water based paint which is not the norm. Always wear a mask even when mixing and cleaning the gun. When in a booth you need to wear a paint suit as well. I'm outside so I"m a little more laxed but again I'm not a professional.
Datyon Ulitmax 12â Subwoofer Driver
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Dual Action Polisher (can be used for all sanding and buffing)
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Sanding block
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3M Sanding Sponge
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Dura Gold sand paper (different grits selectable in link) 1000 and 2000 used in video.
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320 grit for 5â orbital sander
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Paint Ratio Mixing Cups
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Paint Strainer Funnels (select 25 after clicking)
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HVLP spray gun 1.4mm tip
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HVLP filter to keep moisture out
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Epoxy Primer and Catalyst used in video
Primer
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Catalyst
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Example of base coats *make sure to get the reducer if required*
This one requires no added reducer
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Clear coat
For 65-80 degrees F
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85 degrees to Hot as Hell
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Compound cutting pads 6â
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6â Polishing Disc
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Compound
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Polish
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A lot of you guys have asked about the air compressor I used. Here it is! www.lowes.com/pd/Kobalt-QUIET-TECH-26-Gallon-Single-Stage-Portable-Electric-Vertical-Air-Compressor/1001014062?cm_mmc=shp-_-c-_-prd-_-tol-_-ggl-_-LIA_TOL_153_Pneumatics-And-Compressors-_-1001014062-_-local-_-0-_-0&ds_rl=1286981&gclid=Cj0KCQiAt8WOBhDbARIsANQLp97Rn3hGlj5of632gOAH7Yn5-hc39jJAkZv8hv_EBslR27EjaZTBdmcaAtu0EALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds
How small 0f a compressor can you use. I was in the store looking at the little 2 or 3 gallon ones but wasn't sure if they could work
@@shaunbouchersr9544 they usually have a visual graph next to the price that shows what they'll run. Anything that will run an air tool will have no issues with a spray gun as it's run at a much lower Psi.
@@hometheatergurus cool ive ordered everything just need to figure that out. ive watched the video back to front least 20 times im gonna follow it exactly.
@@shaunbouchersr9544 good luck!
ââ@@hometheatergurus not really even with low psi need of a hvlp gun its volume of compressor that it needs. Look up what your gun needs as far as volume and psi also the smaller the tank less volume gpm or gph. The right clean and dry air will properly atomize the paint. I used to paint motorcycles for a living. Also with a smaller air tank i would use a lvlp gun designed for said smaller air compressor. Also for small jobs like this smaller guns, like touch up guns
Just a tip from a painter. Use a larger sanding block that covers the whole surface during all sanding phases including the primer and you will have a flatter surface for your piano gloss. And sand in between all coats of clear. That's how pro automotive painters get their smooth surfaces. Love the color...
@@Pedro-0839 Yes, wet sand
Would you build homemade sanding block to do it or can you purchase one?
@@aaronm5535 You can buy them but it would be cheaper to make your own and work just as well
@@kotogray8335 why wet sand instead of dry sand?
@@mixsterdude Dry sanding clogs up the sandpaper too quickly and using water helps the sandpaper to stick to the surface helping to create a smoother finish
Honestly, I think you did a marvelous job. Long ago I get my degree as a painter, and I love how people like you take the cow by the horn and go for it. If you have much orange peel I advise lower pressures and watch you viscosity of your paint. But anyhow, I love your video. You explained step by step, nicely, how you get the things done. I hope people are inspired by this video and go building themselves. Great job. If there are any misspelled words, I am sorry. I am Dutch and try to do the best I can. Sincerely, Bert de Vries. Hillegom, The Netherlands.
Viscosity is key. Learn to use a viscosity cup and as pressure and humidity change, you will always be spot on. I used to have a notebook with all the different paints I used and what viscosity they sprayed best at. Keep your first few coats thin, too thick and the atomized paint dents the previous coats (orange peel). Too thin, you get blush from where the solvents evaporate out and you get a dry matte look.
I agree, great job and pretty good explanation. Put enough clear on and you can sand anything back. Lacquer is the easiest to paint with, because it cuts into the previous paint, and just color sand and polish. Autos originally were brushed on lacquer and then sanded back and polished (I have done that ).
Spray edges first, then spray the panels, it leaves a higher build on the edges so you are less prone to sand or polish through. Autos originally were brushed on lacquer and then sanded back and polished (I have done that ). Most places frown on Lacquer now
@@garry7263 you are absolutely right. I love it when people now how to do the job. I love the people more when they want to learn the steps. I have noticed that people in corona time, trying to do more D.IY. stuff. They are not afraid to make a mistake. You learn from your mistakes, but never give up.
@garry7263... you nailed it with your answer. For everybody, build your stuff and new proud of the results..... eventough it's not perfect. Greetings from the Netherlands. Bert de Vries
I have done automotive paint for over 12 years and I think you did a wonderful job thank you for the video my friend
Wow. Thanks. I'm definitely no pro so I know you guys are definitely better at it so it means a lot coming from guys that do it professionally.
If your wet sanding use a little washing up soap in the water, really helps, breaks the water tension down đ
I'll try it. Thanks!
Spray bottle for the water really helps. Mix in just a touch of soap makes it a lot easier to wet sand as well đ
Thanks. Next time I'll Give it a try.
So awesome. I have two sets of towers that I built years ago. I love building homage speakers. Iâve never been able to put any kind of decent finish on them. Iâm inspired to try this process on mine now.
Did you do it?
@@murrayshekelberg9754 I did. You have to beware for rounded surfaces. I kinda had those rounded edges and the paint didn't wanted stick it it for some reason. I should have sanded more. The rest was perfect after third layer of paint
Absolutely blown, turned out awesome... I've been watching your videos over the past 4months cause I want to build my own Cinema and honestly you really bring some useful information on the table I'm watching every video you post up, not because I'm planning to build my own sub but due to the fact that it's just really interesting... Good job man, please keep doing what you're doing đ
Thank you very much. I'm glad you're enjoying the channel! Here very soon I'll be building my theater, should be some good videos.
This is the best home theater channel I've found on CZcams. I'm surprised it doesn't have way more views/subscribers.
Wow, thank you! It's growing pretty fast for a small channel. In December I barely 1k subs.
Well done man. Looks like my polished car after 3-4 hours work. Subwoofer looks perfect and i am sure it sounds fantastic.
A tip: When the compound looks dry, just add some water. The cutting material is still there. Saves you compound.
Im a 20 year painter and honestly, good job!
I wanted that for my drum shells. Fantastic!
Man, your visual explanation of what orange peel was, and why it's removed, was great.
Thanks!
Beautiful work I'm getting ready to paint a 16 cuft MDF box for 4 15" subs and I've been looking for good tips because I've never done a paint job that didn't involve nothing but rattle cans and sand paper and I want it to look really nice. Thanks for an extremely detailed video on how to get a very nice finish.
Love that paint work on the box. I have that Dayton Ultimax 12". I built similar to that size but used 3"1/2" OD ports. Made two ports and they are 32" long box it tune to 22 hrz. Awesome with movies.
Awesome. Im going to try a pair of BMR speakers in Piano Black. Gives me great confidence seeing how you did this. Nothing crazy in the way of tools, and I have all the polish I think I'll need from the car. Thankyou very much.
"pressurized insulator"! Love it.
Love it. Amazon and Harbor freight , that's my recipe!
Thanks for watching.
Thanks for the tips. I'm in the process of painting my boxes and the clear and wet sanding you went over was very helpful, as I am getting ready to wet sand myself.
Curious, how did it turn out?
I just got to thank you for sharing your knowledge! You do an amazing job. I've always wanted to make my own sub, now I will do! Lifetime subscriber from Norway :)
Awesome! Thank you!
The ultimate video ive been looking for thanks alot, I've just finished building my big horn speakers and this video will get them looking how i want. Top work fella
Awesome big Steve. :). Too bad youtube doesn't allow pics in comments I'd love to see the results.
@@hometheatergurus ive been working on the passive crossover for days tuning it by ear, got it sounding extremely nice, now that's done its paint time, there are alot of hard to paint areas just like yours when you was painting the port area, i was very glad to see you just get stuck in and go for it, i have to admit you made it look easy,i will likely post a video of my finished product amd include build pics if your interested
Man you sure know how to make that box look amazing. Great job on the enclosure and great job on the video...cheers!
Thanks , I do what I can! :)
When working with MDF I found the best primer in the whole wide world.... to be wood glue. Even the really rough edges it completely seals them, no pain will absorb at all.
I just got a HVLP and LVLP sprayer, I have no idea how well that would work to apply it, but its cheap, tough, and sand-able and paint-able.
How do you use wood glue as a primer?
i enjoyed watching this... learned a lot! well explained and not boring it's good upto the last drop!!!
Call Me silly, But gosh does it feel good hearing a Midwest Boy. Great video, and nice work.
Great instruction video. Thank you for taking the time to do it. đ
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you for this my friend. I've been thinking about doing a little project to make side panels for my hi-fi components, and this has given me the confidence to go ahead!
Awesome. The worst that happens is you screw it up and have to sand it and do it again. So far I haven't had that happen. Good luck!
I mean it looks amazing man great job. Harbor freight gets a bad rap but the customer reviews and everything Iâve bought from there has really done a great job.
This is the first of your videos I've seen but it definitely won't be the last.
Fantastic work on the sub and video production complete with product shots as you go.
Thank you so much. I still feel like they aren't good enough but I'm glad some like them and find value in the content.
somebody did their homework. practice makes perfect. nice work.
Great paint job! I did two of the 12âs on their own Dayton plate amp. Probably 9 years ago in PWK enclosures. They will dig so deep they will make the plate amp vibrate.
Thanks. Yeah dayton makes some great stuff.
This was a fantastic video ! Great information. Thank you for sharing !
Thanks!
Keep up the great videos. Love this channel!!!
Thanks. Glad you're enjoying it!
Oh wow, congrats on teaming up with GSG, that's dope AF!
It's pretty awesome that they've offered to do this for us.
Jeesh bud, well done. Exactly what I was after. Thanks for taking the time to post this, truly appreciated..
Excellent finish. A lot of work paid off.
Wow !!! That's the word. From where you are getting such passion ? Hats off, man
Nice job. I was taught in my apprenticeship to rub a bar of soap on the wet and dry sandpaper while using it with water. It helps the sandpaper from clogging with the paint. Also helps with the finish.
Thanks for the tip. I'll definitely try it next time.
Adding a few drops of liquid soap in the water has the same effect.
You have 48 hours to spray your base and you dont need to sand. The epoxy chemically bonds to the base coat,meaning it dosent need a mechanical bond(sanding).... that epoxy sprays nice and thin if you reduce it 1:1:1 and use it as a sealer wait an hour or two to let it dry then hit it with base/clear. and you won't be able to tell the difference. i grew up about 200 yards from summit. good job , just a time saver .
Thanks Brandon, I'm definitely no pro so I take any advice I can get. I'll do that on the next one. Thanks!
Excellent video
Thank you for the great content. Your Rew video cured my 70hz null that i just couldnât get rid of. đđ»
Awesome Mark! And thanks.
Home Theater Gurus
Your welcome
Could you use the hammer sub vertically? Any issues?
Thanks
Great video ! Really better than most of the cars shows Iâve seen on painting, depth wise.
Iâve always wanted to do this. Youâve shown me I can do it.
Thanks
Thanks Steve! And yep I have no doubt you can do it. The worst that happens is you screw up and get to try again.
Love the color, wonderful finish! đđ»
Thanks!
im not making a subwoofer but this was a really good painting guide for another project i'm doing, thanks
Frankly im impressed. Awesome đ
Thanks Dan!
Beautiful work brother! Great video and explanation!
That looks beautiful! Wow!
Thank you and yeah in person it's really a head turner.
I was thinking to do a paint job on my main speakers and this is just an amazing work ...
Thanks Chris!
@@hometheatergurus oh and I liked and subscribed =)
Awesome. đ
You did very well .My dad even said you did very well 4 not being a painter. And he's been painting hotrods and custom cars for over 40 years. Keep up the good work.If you need any unique custom colors let me know.
Awesome and thanks. Definitely a huge compliment as I'm definitely not a professional painter in any way.
@@hometheatergurus When you finish, make sure to give your car a quick buff too!
I have painted houses for decades and he's teaching me.
I need custom color!....
That looks amazing đ!
Thank you!
I appreciate your quality work. Thanks from Antonio Goa, the state of India
Thanks Befrank!
Hey what a really great video I also love the color and thanks for sharing your expertise with the world as I think I might have the confidence now to tackle something here and I love the painter who shared his professional views of standing between each coat thank you for sharing
Very nice! So much work you've done!
Thank you very much!
Very, very good! Thank you for this Video! GreetingÂŽs from Germany!
Thanks!
Great instructional video. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching!
This is pretty close to how I paint my guitars, and I was wondering if I could do the same for a custom amp head and speaker cabinet I'm thinking of building with MDF. Yours turned out great!
amazing work, thank you for sharing
Thanks for watching!
Awesome!! really a great piece of art
preciously very fine work.
Try turning the air pressure on the gun up more on the last coat of clear. It will help with the orange peel. Great job look really awesome.
Wow. Great paint job on that sub!
Great job man, ive been wondering about the griots garage stuff too, gonna pick some up for my projects
Thanks! It's good stuff. I watched a lot of CZcams videos and it seemed to be well liked. Worked every bit as good as the expensive 3m compound I used the first time I did a base /clear.
Beautiful job!! Wish I had the patience.
Great video btw. But i agree at 19:00, if sanded by hand, clear coat should be sanded with 600 grit sandpaper, it would be a lot faster.
Your doing great ! There are many ways to create a mirror finish on wood. I like you used a harbour freight touch up low flow spray gun. I bought the more expensive version because it has a stainless needle for water based paint. It looks beautiful but i just like a wood finish semi gloss because a shiny finish looks a little plastic to me but it is great for a piano. Enjoyed your hard work!
Wow! What a lot of effort!đđ
So, I was considering doing this to a pair of Klipsch La Scala's. I know they would look beautiful, talk about some work though. You did an awesome job!
you are so awesome! excellent paint job. well done!
Thank you so much đ
That is a LOT of work but beautiful!! What a colour too!!
dude, that was nice. thank you a lot!!
Thanks!
When you wet sand donât use just water. Add a few drops of dawn or just a standard dish soap to the water. The dish soap breaks the surface tension between the water and paint so when you sand your sandpaper will have a layer of water between itself and the paint. That is what you want when wet sanding. Thereâs a big difference between using dish soap and no dish soap.
Thanks, I'll try it out next time.
That was weirdly satisfying.
That's what I like to hear! đ
Awesome! I wanna learn that technique.
A beautiful job. Inspiring.
Thank you!
Excellent video. I am borderline ready to buy some new floor standers, but my 1997 Celestion Impact 40s are great, just shabby looking. Thinking about wrapping them or painting them to make them look gloss black. PS, you remind m of Bob Ross with the way you talk and describe your work, very cool.
When sanding I suggest you use 10% sugar soap solution to prevent excessive paper clogging and edge burn. Also use a microfibre cloth to more effectively remove slurry.
I think he mentioned people like you chiming in
@@Amor1990 he replied 2 years ago bro.... let it go,,,,
Great how to video it came out great thx
Wow that is awesome
Superb, lot of work, lot of passes, worth the time.
Thanks and yes definitely worth it!
Awesome finish đ
My technique is to convince myself that orange peel looks nice đ
đI tried that for a while on my old towers then a after a few months decided to see just how good I could make them look.
I paint corrected 3 of my cars they looked awesome, back in the day 90's I had to take my new car back to the dealer , the paint was messing up, so they repainted the whole car and color sanded to. is the car in the pick. that thing looked like glass got a lot of complements, 25 years later I color sanded that same car myself it looked glass, lot of work took 2 days . All you people to be scared to buff your car out.
Yeah it makes vehicles look amazing. I got a new truck a few months ago and bought all the stuff to do paint correction and chickened out. That compound and buffing cream was actually bought for the truck. Maybe one day if it get scratched up i'll correct it. It's definitely a lot of work on a vehicle. I started off hand washing it and after 2x decided it wasn't happening anymore and now i use the auto wash close to work.
@@hometheatergurus Pros And Cons Pro Looks good when your done Con won't stay that way forever no matter how careful you baby that car. If you ever want to do it check out Junkman2000 . I still hand wash all my cars. the older i get the less i care how my car looks (57) my car gets me form point a to point b and back .
@@uwsome1 yep. And seriously it looks great using the auto wash. I've never been a hand washing kind of guy. It was my first new truck in 15 years, the honeymoon stage lasted 2 hand washes. đ
Looks Great!
great job but just a tip to help out. Soak your sand paper for 20-30 mins prior in and bucket of water with a few drops of dish liquid in it. Personally I use a spray bottle to wet down the surface.
That woz fantastic so cool
Amazing work
This is so AWESOME
Thanks!
That looks great!
Thanks!
This is a good video đčđđœ
I'v painted furniture in my grandfather shop and paint cars when people want me too.
Dude, can't believe you did all that final sanding by hand! That takes a while with that fine of paper... End result looks great man. You did a great job going over everything. I used to paint cars in my dads shop back in high school and shortly after. Lots of work to get a good finish. You are correct though, no painter can completely get rid of orange peel. You get lucky sometimes, but not normally lol. If you do this again, besides getting a DA sander for the clear coat sanding, grab yourself a "california squeegee." That will complete remove all the water off the surface quickly to where you can see the cloudy/shiny areas in the clear coat. No more rags at that step. Once we started using those, it was a game changer! Again, looks awesome. Better than my swopes I painted several years ago! I didn't do the sanding/polishing step on mine, sort of a rush job. May redo them one day... đ€
I only did the initial wet sanding by hand but yeah as I said in the video next time I'll get some paper for my sander for that step. Even still it only took maybe an hour to do that step but i did arms that day and the felt like noodles after sanding.. :) As for the squeegee, that's a great idea. I'll definitely do that!
Ohh and yeah that orange peel was bad..LOL. If I didn't know about the wet sanding I would have given up. It was great for the video though. The first time I did this last year had just a little. Thank goodness for sanding, compound and buffing. Bring on the orange peel!!
The satisfaction !đ€€
very good, will be trying this.
awesome video on how to make MDF speakers look great.
Thanks!
This is amazing. I eventually want to give this kind of finish a go. Fingerprint magnet but so so pretty.
I myself just finished a box for an Ultimax 10. Baltic birch plywood stained with dark walnut oil stain. Finished with 3 coats of water based gloss.
It's about 3.5 cubic feet tuned to 19Hz with 3 10" Dayton Passive radiators.
I've yet to order the passive radiators but hope to get around to that in a week or so.
Thanks. The um10 is a really good performer and even works well in a box as small as a cube (net) tuned down to 20hz. Good choice!
Finally, someone else that knows the difference between gloss and piano gloss, unlike SVS lol
Ohh there's definitely a huge difference between buffed single stage paint and a base /clear. HUGE!
High end painters don't distinguish between gloss and piano gloss. We call it normal.
This gloss is awesome but knocking SVS makes little to no sense at all. You can always make a custom finish for yourself if you have the time and know how. SVS offers the gloss finish for a wide range of customers while maintaining a sustainable cash flow. For fantastic al a carte finish from a company please see JWM Audio. Youâll get my meaning. The price is also eye opening.
@@beyondonethousand I think he was making a little DIY joke. Ultimately the frequencies will not care if cabinet is unfinished, shag carpet, or piano gloss.
Great narration, a pleasure to watch.
Thanks. I thought I did just OK so great to hear!
Gosh I love what you did to that box. I hope to someday try myself.
Thanks Don, Go for it. The worst that happens is you screw it up and sand it down and try again.
great job and instruction was nice and clear
Thanks!
Excellent Job all around!!!!
Thanks!
If you mix up some white glue and water and paint that on the MDF before you start, it seals the surface enough so that the paint sits on top. Just a thought for the future.
I actually did this to the edges in the previous video. It seals great. With the epoxy primer I wouldn't be surprised if the primer sealed them on the 2nd coat without pre sealing. It's fantastic stuff. But I always seal mdf edges with the glue /water mix. If you don't they're sponges for regular paint as I'm sure you know.
Excellent video and thanks for the links in the description
Thanks and you're welcome!