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  • čas přidán 15. 08. 2024
  • Here are 4 reasons why I recommend mixing with the channel faders and cut/scratching with the crossfader.
    Product links in pinned comment below!
    Hot Cues:
    0:00 To fade or not to fade
    2:09 Gives you more...
    4:39 Sharpen your settings like this...
    6:13 Cut this in your next mix
    7:10 When you have the itch...

Komentáře • 103

  • @priyonjoni
    @priyonjoni  Před 3 lety +6

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  • @starone1966
    @starone1966 Před rokem +3

    I taught myself to mix via the crossfader, so I decided to use this demonstration and practice; it is much better using the faders. The crossfader is usually for scratching and cutting. Well explained.

  • @djcarlo
    @djcarlo Před 3 lety +35

    Interesting perspective! Dope video as always!

    • @priyonjoni
      @priyonjoni  Před 3 lety +7

      I appreciate it, Carlo!

    • @bipbailey
      @bipbailey Před 2 lety +5

      Awesome! One of my favorite teaching DJs commenting on another of my favorite teaching DJs.

  • @ajohnstitch
    @ajohnstitch Před 3 lety +11

    Funny as the crossfader was meant for that exact reason back in the day when uising turntables.
    It was a bit more full on back then so you could then mix just with one hand and use the mic in the other or use your othe hand to contoll the deck ect.
    Totaly different to todays purpose as time has eveolved mixers entirely.
    Great vid :)

    • @priyonjoni
      @priyonjoni  Před 3 lety +3

      Very true. The original DJ mixer from Boxak didn’t have a crossfader, or even channel faders. It had rotary knobs for the channels and that was it. The era of the popularity of crossfaders I would say was in the 1980s to the mid 1990s. But the channel fader/knobs for mixing were actually the original way to mix back in the 1970s. (Though the crossfader was also introduced in the mid 1970s)

  • @mhthevillain4612
    @mhthevillain4612 Před 3 lety +8

    My crossfader always on sharp 🙌🏾

  • @freedomsound7795
    @freedomsound7795 Před 3 lety +14

    The channel fader is really effective when ur mixing and the incoming track is recorded higher.. u dont have to fade the track right up,just enough for a good balance in output..👍

    • @priyonjoni
      @priyonjoni  Před 3 lety +1

      Yup, you have more control with the max volume.

    • @ashleymcgovern5120
      @ashleymcgovern5120 Před 2 lety

      That's what the trim/gain is for. Used to have to do that in the old days when there was no gain.

  • @xuelang234
    @xuelang234 Před 2 lety +3

    Instead of mixing,I usually use crossfader to cut on the right point like Hiphop DJ,even when I play House.I love crossfader :D

  • @dskillzhtown
    @dskillzhtown Před 3 lety +6

    Love your vids, I have learned alot from you but....
    Crossfader for life!!!! I have no desire to play with the channel fader. I think that alot of it, comes down to individual style.

  • @TheActualJae
    @TheActualJae Před 2 lety

    lol, this is the politest I think anyone has ever been while basically showing me that my approach (as a beginner) is really kinda stupid. Thanks!!!

  • @patofthesharingan6468
    @patofthesharingan6468 Před 3 lety +1

    I like that you mention the rotary knobs on old mixers. The term for it is “Bozak” which I thjnk was a model name. I learned DJing in the 80s.

  • @The1000sHTown
    @The1000sHTown Před 2 lety +9

    NICE BUT I’LL ALWAYS BE A CROSSFADER GUY! Back when us old schoolers learned to mix, we learned to drop that beat at the beginning of the mix or at least the first snare after the the first bass note. It sounded better and still does to me. It had that feel to where you didn’t know if it was the same Song or not. The whole gradually raising the track on the channel fader sounds weak to me and in most cases you can tell when it’s coming in. Like a scared attempt to drop it on the one. But that’s just my take. Oh, AND you can still transform the sound with the up-channels. You don’t really need a sharp fader.

    • @thejamms1694
      @thejamms1694 Před rokem +2

      Yep, I concur 100%.

    • @aprendetelo4112
      @aprendetelo4112 Před rokem +2

      I was thinking the same, they call beginners, when actually you need more practice to master the crossfader use, the crossfader range volume goes all the way up from one side to the other not just from the middle, so the range is wider than most DJ think, also when you are using the volume channels you are not leveling correctly, I don't see the DJ's using the master either correctly, but it is true that in newer consoles the crossfader is shorter so this lead us to change our mixing style a lil bit.

  • @DJFrico-dm4oq
    @DJFrico-dm4oq Před měsícem

    Thanks Im a new dj and your videos are really helping me out. I was one of the ones using the crossfader incorrectly

  • @DanielleKingdjdinosaur
    @DanielleKingdjdinosaur Před 10 měsíci +1

    i use the cross fader and whlie in doing that my free hand is doing the EQ.On some tracks i might chop back and forth but i have always used the cross fader as it gave me one free hand and when using vinyl that meant i could pitch bend the deck coming in making small adjustments especially on older track with irregular beats .Having a free hand to use eq effects scratch pitch bend etc is why we have cross faders.Lazy mixing just from one to the other with the cross fader i understand is not so great but i have always mixed with the cross fader and the up faders left where they are so i can do more with my free hand.

  • @jordynchan5103
    @jordynchan5103 Před 2 lety

    Very well said. I am a beginner DJ myself mainly mixing uplifting trance, and I use the channel faders to mix. I have had my crossfader on my controller set to "thru" since the day I got it.

  • @invntiv
    @invntiv Před rokem

    When i started DJing back in 2008 the crossfaders were a lot wider and I got used to that workflow. Time and tech has changed and I now love the channel fader mix instead. Also with a 4 channel mixer this really makes even more sense

  • @gatisrimss
    @gatisrimss Před 3 lety +2

    Crossfader 4 life

  • @Ravinstomper
    @Ravinstomper Před 3 lety +1

    I've learnt something new today 🤗

  • @djTorchLive
    @djTorchLive Před 2 lety +3

    Hip Hop/scratching - Crossfader (faster Transitions)
    EDM - Channel Faders (longer transitions)

  • @andrewkeller2842
    @andrewkeller2842 Před 3 lety +1

    Great talk… very clear and concise points/delivery of information. So I 100% agree as I used to mix with the crossfader only, and for all the reasons you bring up, the volume mixers make so much more sense (whether bringing in the next song “slow” or “fast”)… great job!

  • @lustforlow-end6022
    @lustforlow-end6022 Před 2 lety

    I use #3. I don’t scratch much but I love chopping up funky techno & electro with the xfader. It’s great fun!

  • @adamhernandez7626
    @adamhernandez7626 Před 3 měsíci

    If you are looking to learn how to mix with channel faders, I'd recommend turning off the crossfader when you start. Having it on may only complicate things when you're trying to learn a new skill. You can always turn it back on when you're ready for more advanced stuff.

  • @sumitromandal6173
    @sumitromandal6173 Před 3 lety +1

    Thnx for the video sir,nice perspective,even I use channel faders for mixing....can you do a video on when to scratch and on what kind of songs? Coz we always focus on how to scratch but never on when to scratch,it would mean a lot.

  • @echannelplus3364
    @echannelplus3364 Před 2 lety +1

    channel fader is also great for control of unbalance track volume

  • @ashleymcgovern5120
    @ashleymcgovern5120 Před 2 lety

    On paper the crossfader is the best method; hand free to make any adjustments, perfectly balanced mix level as long as the Ch faders are set correctly (for dipped or dipless /some at halfway some about 3/4s).
    & Easily replaced after heavy use. I use the channel faders as I do long blends & you can also shut & open them quickly if you choose. But beginners I can understand crossfader use as they might need to make more corrections using the free hand. I started on an old Kam mixer with no trims/gains. VU level was set with upfaders, could only mix with crossfader (unless you remembered where to bring the up fader to). We used both back in the day. Upfaders would crackle after time so used the crossfader & vice versa. Even xfaders were not as easy to get no online like today, so you would use either until a spare came.

    • @priyonjoni
      @priyonjoni  Před 2 lety

      Great points!

    • @aprendetelo4112
      @aprendetelo4112 Před rokem

      Also the crossfader can be used as a lock precisely to prevent errors while mixing, it is just up to the style or whatever you are doing, sometimes there's no intro or outro or you are dealing with a radio edit so in that case you need looping cutting and playing with the eqs to make the mix interesting and you need both channels vol faders to be equal and just using the crossfader

  • @ggreenleaf47
    @ggreenleaf47 Před 2 lety +1

    This might be use useful, because i have a Denon Prime 4 controller. Though i LOVE it, it can be pretty frustrating/confusing used to workflow of using 4 channels in two decks, getting the most out of it. I make alot of mistakes when cueing and such while practicing, mistakes that i definitely don't want to make when playing out. Using channel faders may simplify things. Will give it a try.

  • @scorp888
    @scorp888 Před 2 lety +1

    Awesome content. I do think you could have combined 3 and 4 as they are essentially the same.

  • @BboyCorrosive
    @BboyCorrosive Před rokem

    7:53 pretty much how I mix, with variability on the scratch intro or whether I scratch at all vs just release.

  • @sedrickthompson9897
    @sedrickthompson9897 Před 2 lety

    Awesome informative video. Thanks

  • @michaelgreene3511
    @michaelgreene3511 Před 3 lety

    I need to go back to this I started that way!

  • @fernandaaaaaaa777
    @fernandaaaaaaa777 Před rokem

    My behringer studio 4A right side fader is broken and I have to mix with crossfader, I think I'm used to it 😂

  • @somethingtodoaboutnothing3026

    Love it

  • @DJ_PHILCO79
    @DJ_PHILCO79 Před 3 lety +1

    Great Content 👍🏾 👌 👍🏾 👌

  • @m3ngr3mixes18
    @m3ngr3mixes18 Před rokem

    I uses both style. depends of what style of music i was playing.

  • @umarsavage3260
    @umarsavage3260 Před 7 měsíci

    Great job 👏

  • @TheVas1968
    @TheVas1968 Před 2 lety

    Muchas Grasias Bien Explicado, Saludos dedes California

  • @vazfinestdjchozin1599
    @vazfinestdjchozin1599 Před 2 lety

    We use the crossfader to cut and scratch... use the line levels to blend.... old school djs used real turnatbles.

  • @Ziggy_v2
    @Ziggy_v2 Před 3 lety +1

    Good advice 👍 and nice setup.
    How do you like the S11 with the CDJ-3000s? Pill Harris switch from an S11 to a 900nsx2- just curious on your opinion.

    • @priyonjoni
      @priyonjoni  Před 3 lety +1

      Phil is a great guy. He actually asked me about specific features he wanted to use with the CDJ-3000 that it worked out better for him to use the DJM-900NXS2. Those features were Touch Cue and Touch Preview which utilize the Pro DJ Link.
      It really depends what you’re preferences are for the mixer and configuration you want. I like using the DJM-V10, DJM-S11, and DJM-S7 with it.

  • @DJ_PHILCO79
    @DJ_PHILCO79 Před 3 lety +1

    I really appreciate it

  • @zomgoose
    @zomgoose Před 7 měsíci

    X-Fader is for hard cuts. Play with scratch DJing to learn how to use it.

  • @armgod1
    @armgod1 Před 3 lety

    Learnt a new skill!!!

  • @Dainne
    @Dainne Před 2 lety

    Great job

  • @razor22300
    @razor22300 Před rokem

    Hi, can you share the name of the first Track « Dancing » in your video? It’s sound like a Banger haha’ ✌🏻

  • @ACECAL-cl4tb
    @ACECAL-cl4tb Před rokem

    I can't hear the audio from that deck if the channel fader is at 0

  • @ramennissin2036
    @ramennissin2036 Před 3 lety

    Thanks bro good info. Stay bless 🤙

  • @channel6a
    @channel6a Před 3 lety

    Great video makes perfect sense. I noticed how you keep your wires nice and neat and rolled and then tied together with velcro? not sure that that is. Do you have a link of these types of ties that would help keep wires nice. I noticed it on your green and orange wires. Thanks!

    • @DjReeceVarnell
      @DjReeceVarnell Před 3 lety

      Checkout Dj Tech Tools online for those. They come with a little velcro tie.

  • @djswaveh
    @djswaveh Před rokem

    Haven't you noticed you loose energy when using the upfaders? The upfaders are better used for precision on cutting-off sharply in the mix. I don't agree with upfaders unless it's for volume adjustment. Only quacks use upfaders constantly

  • @jeffreysteiner5006
    @jeffreysteiner5006 Před rokem

    This looks like a video game. Where are the turntables?

  • @ShowtimeEnt404
    @ShowtimeEnt404 Před 3 lety

    salute it was point 2 for me

  • @buddafingaz9403
    @buddafingaz9403 Před 2 lety

    That was an amazingly helpful video my friend, good stuff homeslice... I think you literally just upped my game with mixing and scratching on a technical point of view, and on a game changing point of view!
    This is one of the best videos, and one of the most important things I've learned to date when it comes to mixing for myself at least.
    I've been practicing my scratching on my portable turntables, my regular turntable, and my Denon motorized media player as well. But for some reason I love scratching on my portables, like personally myself. But when I want to mix and scratch, I'll use my Audio Technica atlp140 XP with my Pioneer DJ djm250 MK2. But I'm really not super impressed with the Magvel fader honestly my friend, which is weird, because there was a lot of hype behind the Magvel fader🔥💯👍💪🙏🎶🌎
    I think as soon as I'm able to put an innovator in my Pioneer djm250mk2 mixer hopefully sometime in the near future, I'm thinking that should really up my game when it comes to me doing the whole mixing and scratching scenario. I've spent the later half of the last year basically collecting 12-in vinyl, and 7-in vinyl for scratching, with an occasional 7-in vinyl or 45s for music, as well too!
    But as soon as I'm able to get that Innofader put inside of my mixer, and then practice my scratching and mixing with the technique that you just laid out for me. I think I'll start the dominate on this bitch! Lol... Bahahahaha...
    Lol
    .. Just messn around man, but yeah bro, that was an extremely helpful video, and I can't wait to utilize those scratch techniques once I get a better fader, thank you again for your help with the DJ shit.... Keep it rockn 👍💪🙏🎶🌎🔥💯☠️💀🛸👽👾😎🔙

  • @thehouserocker
    @thehouserocker Před 3 lety

    I started doing this specifically cause we DJ's are busy bodies and I kept altering volumes between channels acidentally. The inofader is literally a hair trigger! I'm on a Rane Seventy Two

    • @priyonjoni
      @priyonjoni  Před 3 lety

      For sure!

    • @aprendetelo4112
      @aprendetelo4112 Před rokem

      The crossfader will move accidentally more if you don't use it either, I mean if you don't really use it you don't notice it either. If you use it you would pay more attention on what you are doing and it would be more likely to be in the correct position.

  • @TheBudgie29
    @TheBudgie29 Před 2 lety

    When I started out DJing, the crossfader was a 10 Year dream away. And I still don't use It today.

  • @adityamadan5871
    @adityamadan5871 Před 2 lety

    Wouldn't it really help if we were able to stop the crossfader from moving using a stopper or something?

    • @adamhernandez7626
      @adamhernandez7626 Před 3 měsíci

      You are able to turn off the crossfader function on most systems

  • @DevRel1
    @DevRel1 Před 11 měsíci

    Cross faders are for cutting, channel faders are for mixing. Period. Use both, right tool for the right job.

  • @walterspivey1290
    @walterspivey1290 Před 3 lety

    I always wondered how do DJ’s scratch on one side and the beat keeps going. Meaning it doesn’t skip a beat when you grab the platter to scratch. Any advice would help. Thanks I’m advance, I love theses tips!

    • @priyonjoni
      @priyonjoni  Před 2 lety

      It's all in practice. You have to learn how to let it go on beat. But honestly, I didn't even do it perfectly. There is still correction I had to do afterwards.

  • @DevTr3nd
    @DevTr3nd Před 3 lety

    Hey, good info, haven't think about it like that before, also I wanted to ask you, I have a Numark mixtrack controller, and the crossfader is not good to do advance scratching, I would like to move on to an analog crossfader, can you recommend a good analog external crossfader to use with that controller, thanks

    • @priyonjoni
      @priyonjoni  Před 3 lety

      The only one I know of is Innofader. Check with them if they make a kit for your controller.

  • @tech1238
    @tech1238 Před 2 lety

    My only reason for doing this is because all the faders are destroyed on other peoples equipment. On my own mixer i’ll use the cross fader

  • @wheelmedia8091
    @wheelmedia8091 Před 2 lety

    Xfader for dayz

  • @CRO13B
    @CRO13B Před 2 lety

    Name of first track?

  • @nano_chad
    @nano_chad Před 2 lety

    personally I prefer mixing in and out just using the eq.

  • @ryoo7845
    @ryoo7845 Před 3 lety

    bcz I don't have a gear, and use VDJ. I mostly use crossfader

    • @priyonjoni
      @priyonjoni  Před 3 lety +1

      Fair enough! I haven’t considered what it’s like when using software only. Crossfader does sound better since you can only click one function with the mouse. Great perspective!

  • @devijar7909
    @devijar7909 Před 3 lety

    nice video

  • @djcarlo
    @djcarlo Před 3 lety

    0:36 to 0:37 has weird audio?

    • @priyonjoni
      @priyonjoni  Před 3 lety

      I didn’t catch till after upload 🤦‍♂️ oops

  • @jayeff689
    @jayeff689 Před rokem +1

    splitting hairs.
    it's as matter of preferences. there are many ways to skin a cat.
    nothing to do with being a beginner or expert.

    • @priyonjoni
      @priyonjoni  Před rokem

      But there's a difference between a blade and a butter knife

  • @KPhlowTV
    @KPhlowTV Před 2 lety

    Not to mix with crossfader unless you are a turntablist .. I usually use crossfader to scratch in my mixes alongside the sound knobs...

  • @waxdrwest
    @waxdrwest Před 2 lety

    i mean use the crossfader as well, dont avoid it. You can do some really cool shit with it

  • @djswaveh
    @djswaveh Před rokem

    Go listen to Nick Spinneli, he did a better video on this. As for the crossfader, it's for preference as to how anyone chooses to use it

  • @jaydog2421
    @jaydog2421 Před 3 lety

    I don’t use the crossfaders to mix. Channel faders are the way to be

  • @judekraft8104
    @judekraft8104 Před 2 lety

    He said “SET IT AND FORGET IT”

    • @The1000sHTown
      @The1000sHTown Před 2 lety

      I remember set it and forget it was our concept and saying for finding the pitch precisely and then dropping the mix and let it ride. Nowadays, DJs are chasing the mix the whole way through. If you can catch a beat, you shouldn’t have to be chasing the beat while in the mix and if you do, it should be very minimal.
      Man! And this was done back in the day with just vinyl and waiting for that break beat

  • @sabatheus
    @sabatheus Před 2 lety

    DMS won't accept me. I'm not a real DJ, I guess.

  • @227RM
    @227RM Před rokem

    I don't use the crossfader I don't need it!

  • @ichigen511
    @ichigen511 Před 3 lety +3

    coulda shoulda woulda didn't. if a dj makes it work then it works. saying there is a proper way to mix is an unenlightened opinion bro. I mix like you do but that doesn't mean others can use a different technique. I have seen/heard do's mix in unorthadoxed ways and they make it work. settle down brother you are not a buddha.

    • @profbx5258
      @profbx5258 Před 3 lety +1

      Wow…..an idiot who also decides to end a dumbass comment with some shade racism? Good job! Anyway, I’m glad the white guy who has a fun Japanese culture vulture racist video on his channel is deciding to play gatekeeper about who is a “buddah” or whatever. (Also,
      I’m sure that you don’t think your Japanese caricature video isn’t racist…I mean you are speaking Japanese right? It doesn’t matter that you are white! It isn’t racist if you have good pronunciation!)
      Maybe take a second and think about how your comments might get taken, and for that matter, how messed up it is for the white guy to play gate keeper in DJ culture. You are a guest. Wipe your shoes before you walk into a house that ain’t yours.

    • @chadnliz2k11
      @chadnliz2k11 Před 2 lety

      Wow, you're a damaged little fella aren't you?

    • @SharaG.
      @SharaG. Před 2 lety

      @@profbx5258 ❤️❤️❤️❤️

  • @prspktvmusic
    @prspktvmusic Před 2 lety

    Hell no, unless you’re scratching!

  • @michaels8088
    @michaels8088 Před rokem

    I guess it depends if you want to rock the record or just mix/blend..If you're just miixing/blending,then you're probably better off with the rotary mixers..If you're skilled your can bring the fader over with whatever curves..if you fader is moving to the beat,the mixer is cheap/broken..

    • @priyonjoni
      @priyonjoni  Před rokem

      Cheaper mixers typically have more friction. Professional scratch mixers with tension control have such little friction at low tension; that they can in fact move. That is because scratch DJs prefer less friction.

    • @michaels8088
      @michaels8088 Před rokem

      @@priyonjoni That's makes no sense logically,and I have a Rane with a fader. It's one of the REAL Ranes before they got bought out/merged,or whatever mess they made.Despite the bass,the faders do not move by themselves.If there's that much vibration the records would skip before the faders move themselves.Anyone with audio skills knows to isolate both the decks and the mixer by decoupling them from bass vibrations.I skate and have bearings which have little friction yet the wheels do not roll by themselves without lateral movement.

  • @SaucyBegger25
    @SaucyBegger25 Před 2 lety

    It’s funny as when I first started I preferred the channel faders. Always felt I had more control. I could punch in the record too and cut real fast and clean. I don’t know just always preferred it. Had quite a few mixers and none fade right for me. So like now always go back to the channel faders 🎚 🎚