Don't Let This Happen To YOU! (Our RV Solar Panels Caught on Fire)!

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    We still can’t believe our RV solar panels caught on fire. In this video we explain what happened with our flexible solar panels to cause them to catch fire, why flexible panels are downright dangerous for RV use, how you can prevent this from happening to you, and what we're doing for our RV off grid solar setup instead!
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    00:00 Our RV flexible solar panels caught on fire (assessing damage)
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Komentáře • 261

  • @EatSeeRV
    @EatSeeRV  Před rokem +3

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  • @josephharrell5724
    @josephharrell5724 Před rokem +18

    One of the things about solar cells is that they are much more efficient when it is cold vs hot even though there is usually more sun when it is hot. The 3 inches that a rigid solar panel sits above the roof allow air to circulate underneath and cool them. You have just taught me that this is more more than a efficiency issue but is even more of a safety issue. Thanks for showing this because I have never seen this before. We all live and learn and it is so helpful when you share experience like this.

  • @7113cole
    @7113cole Před rokem +12

    WOW, you guys were so lucky. Glad the kitties are ok and you still have your RV. Thanks for sharing as I’m sure this will help other RV owners.

  • @SewingBoxDesigns
    @SewingBoxDesigns Před 9 měsíci +6

    Thank goodness I just found this by accident. I'm glad the damage was minimal compared to what it could have been. I think you guys saved a lot of lives w this vid. Thank you!

    • @EatSeeRV
      @EatSeeRV  Před 9 měsíci

      We hope so! It was a scary experience

  • @MrAlbarry51
    @MrAlbarry51 Před rokem +3

    I’m so glad nobody was hurt you were able to get you RV repaired. Thank you so much for sharing this information. We own a Renogy portable solar kit and love it. Safe travels!

    • @EatSeeRV
      @EatSeeRV  Před rokem

      That's great to hear! Thank you for the well wishes.

  • @mrwonderfullgj
    @mrwonderfullgj Před rokem

    Live and learn. Thanks for sharing. Good luck with the new ones.

  • @mikew2046
    @mikew2046 Před rokem +7

    THAT IS SO SCARY....of all the tips ,hints ,and reviews this is one of the best SAFETY AWARENESS vids
    Thanks for sharing and certainly glad you and rig are fine .
    You just proved the roof coating is worth it's weight in gold and made us all aware of hazards of flexible panels thank you for saving a few other souls 😲

  • @lindagolden9892
    @lindagolden9892 Před rokem +6

    Omg 🙀 most definitely a valuable lesson to share. One would think all panels would come with a warning for such.

    • @EatSeeRV
      @EatSeeRV  Před rokem +2

      AGREED! I'm glad we could share and keep this from happening to others. We had no idea this was a potential risk. So scary!

  • @M.Campbell
    @M.Campbell Před rokem +5

    Thank you so much for sharing this! I was considering using flexible panels when I get my RV next year. Not any more.

    • @EatSeeRV
      @EatSeeRV  Před rokem +1

      I'm glad we could sway you toward rigid and learn from our very scary lesson.

  • @sandras1524
    @sandras1524 Před rokem +1

    Holy cow. Soooo glad the final outcome was positive. Keep safe and happy.

  • @PittsWithAPurpose
    @PittsWithAPurpose Před rokem +2

    Thanks for posting this. I was also favoring the flex panels after we purchase our RV soon. So sorry that this happened. We will be installing rigid now. Again...thanks!

    • @EatSeeRV
      @EatSeeRV  Před rokem

      Definitely the safer choice if your roof allows!

  • @MrMROSCAR22
    @MrMROSCAR22 Před 8 měsíci

    Excellent information, thank you very much for sharing your experience with us.. cordial greetings and continue enjoying your adventures!!

  • @keithmanningbocodjkaraoke7259

    Glad to hear all is Ok n no more seriously issues happened prayers n May God Bless ya ll again n the new ones 😗😗🙏

  • @gatekeeper3657
    @gatekeeper3657 Před rokem

    Thanks for sharing this!

  • @tombowen9861
    @tombowen9861 Před 10 měsíci +3

    Another factor that comes to mind is the tape around all the edges. If there is differential expansion/contraction between the roof and flexible module this could put a lot of mechanical stress on the solar module and more quickly damage them. Without the tape I'd be worried about wind damage. Tricky situation, glad there's no more damage!

    • @EatSeeRV
      @EatSeeRV  Před 10 měsíci

      Yes glad we upgraded and don't have to worry anymore.

  • @heatherwilkins7228
    @heatherwilkins7228 Před 18 dny

    Wow!! So glad you and your family, is safe. But thankyou for showing us this damage.

  • @moore_2_explore
    @moore_2_explore Před rokem +1

    We are so glad the result was not worse!! You are right, for us flexible panels are not worth considering for any RV or mobile application.

  • @kennethgardner3090
    @kennethgardner3090 Před rokem +1

    This video could save me and others. Thank you, big time.

    • @EatSeeRV
      @EatSeeRV  Před rokem

      Absolutely! Wish we didn't have to learn the hard way but hey.

  • @RoseOriginals
    @RoseOriginals Před rokem +4

    That was super scary! I'm so glad that the damage wasn't worse and that your furbabies are safe! I had no idea they could catch fire. I guess that goes for the suitcase type which is what we'll be having.

    • @EatSeeRV
      @EatSeeRV  Před rokem +1

      Us either! I think the suitcase type is less prone to failure, but I still think I'd get a rigid portable suitcase not flexible.

    • @snowbirdlady8496
      @snowbirdlady8496 Před rokem +1

      I chose the rigid suitcase type of solar for my small Class C. Main reason was I prefer to camp in National Forest type places where there are more trees. I wanted something I could move around as needed. Plus I was worried about damage from above from all sorts of things. I've been using them for 3 years now and am very happy. Sure glad your situation wasn't worse!

    • @EatSeeRV
      @EatSeeRV  Před rokem +1

      Glad you found something that works for you!

  • @TravelSmallLiveBig
    @TravelSmallLiveBig Před rokem

    We totally understand! Our flexible panels on the Rpod did something similar. Scared the crap out of us. We have a Renogy suitcase set we put out.

    • @EatSeeRV
      @EatSeeRV  Před rokem

      Oh my gosh! So scary. I'm glad nothing worse happened!

  • @robintyde5441
    @robintyde5441 Před rokem

    This happened to my friend who loves solar panels. He installed them himself. It took over a year to get his RV fixed. Still is a big fan. Others have had this problem which is kept quiet.

  • @djwaffle
    @djwaffle Před 10 měsíci +1

    I'm about to put 5 panels on my roof. My friend kept telling me to get flexible and this is the proof that I won't be following that suggestion. Since my roof is rubber I'm going to use aluminum Unistrut on a slight stand off and a bunch of lap sealant into the roof studs. Thanks for the great video.

  • @ms.jessadventures
    @ms.jessadventures Před rokem

    Wow this incredible to learn...so glad you guys are ok

  • @piniped
    @piniped Před rokem +1

    I’ve been reading about flex panels. Glad you and kitties are ok.

    • @EatSeeRV
      @EatSeeRV  Před rokem +1

      Us too! I don't think the pro of flexibility or lighter weight is worth the risks. Rigid all the way!

  • @OurRoadLessTraveled
    @OurRoadLessTraveled Před rokem +1

    GREAT video. We are looking to add solar to our 5th wheel and though about using flexible panel to keep down drag. I had always wondered about the heat buildup and being right on the roof. I think we will go with raised.

    • @EatSeeRV
      @EatSeeRV  Před rokem

      100% go with rigid and raised. We haven't noticed a big difference in drag for wind and is well worth the safety and longevity of the panels. Don't forget to shop for Renogy rigid with our link! 😉

  • @termikina
    @termikina Před 9 měsíci +7

    I have been using SunPower flexible solar panels for 7 years, 1200w installation, they are in perfect condition, at the same level as rigid panels with the same years. The panels have been installed on an aluminum frame and brackets, spaced 1.5 inches from the ceiling. The coating of our panels is EFTE, which guarantees resistance to high temperatures much higher than cheap PET. Many manufacturers sell flexible panels such as EFTE being PET. The hot spots suffered by your solar panels is a failure that also occurs in rigid panels, caused by poor construction of the solar panel.

    • @Seaturtle008
      @Seaturtle008 Před 4 měsíci

      Did you build the frames for the panels? and of course any details. please

  • @CurieuxNomades
    @CurieuxNomades Před rokem

    Holly Molly, that was scary! Luckily the story ends well, and replacement panels look great.
    Anne & Eric

    • @EatSeeRV
      @EatSeeRV  Před rokem +1

      Yes 🙌 couldn't agree more

  • @rvnut1133
    @rvnut1133 Před rokem +1

    This is insane!!! Wow! I am glad you didn't lose your home.

  • @HardIsEasy
    @HardIsEasy Před 28 dny

    Had Solbian flexible panels develop burn spots on my van as well... and bunch of other problems - switching soon to ridgit

  • @vinboughton4751
    @vinboughton4751 Před 11 měsíci

    Wow God Bless you guys , That was a close one

  • @v1-vr-rotatev2-vy_vx31
    @v1-vr-rotatev2-vy_vx31 Před rokem +1

    So glad I have the aluminum framed glass type that allows for air circulation underneath, Have eight 200 watt panels with for 6 years now, with flawless operation on RV, however the MPPT charge controllers all sucked with voltage fluctuation, found small voltage regulators online with heat sinks and adjustable amperage and adjustable voltage and digital readout for only $10 each and utilized two for superb voltage consistency charging and low cost lithium titanate bundled batteries at 13.5 volts each.

    • @EatSeeRV
      @EatSeeRV  Před rokem

      Good tips and glad you have a situation that is safe and works for you!

  • @jtandrews3
    @jtandrews3 Před 7 měsíci +1

    If the inverter has arc fault detection, then the inverter can shut down solar production so the panels don't catch fire. Some inverters can have this enabled or disabled as an option. Basically, arc fault detection can detect if there is sparking in the panel or connections.

  • @JCrozier1
    @JCrozier1 Před rokem

    Poor Maggie!
    I was just showing a guy in my office some photos of the inside today. Glad you found it when you did.

    • @EatSeeRV
      @EatSeeRV  Před rokem +1

      Thanks for sharing! She's a beauty and I'm glad she wasn't lost in the fire.

    • @JCrozier1
      @JCrozier1 Před rokem

      @@EatSeeRV I was showing photos because I'd love for it to live in my yard.
      My office guy went to a local RV show this weekend. He needed to see how yours was set up.

  • @lindamaurice9923
    @lindamaurice9923 Před rokem +4

    Our flexible panels are SunPower and are on many boats canvas roofs on Georgian Bay. Haven't heard of any issues and they have been around for years so I think it depends on what you buy. So glad you weren't hurt. Take care.

    • @EatSeeRV
      @EatSeeRV  Před rokem +1

      Thanks for sharing! We hadn't heard of any fires here either, until we did more digging and found it can happen.

    • @jamesyao9199
      @jamesyao9199 Před měsícem

      You should leave some space channels underneath the flexible panels for airflow to avoid the risk of getting fire. I use 3M Dual Lock Reclosable Fastener SJ3870 250 Black to attach on my roof

  • @markwitkop7022
    @markwitkop7022 Před rokem

    Glad I saw this. Thanks.

  • @stacybooth9704
    @stacybooth9704 Před rokem

    Wow! That's wild. Flat panels didn't even last us a year either. Suck a pain. Glad to see you guys are doing well 😁

    • @EatSeeRV
      @EatSeeRV  Před rokem +1

      Yes it's seriously so annoying! But glad we got rigid panels that will last longer! We are well, hope you are too ❤️

  • @iggyiggy8918
    @iggyiggy8918 Před rokem

    That’s scary ! Glad to know y’all are okay 👍👍👍👍

  • @rebeccaj5252
    @rebeccaj5252 Před rokem +1

    Great information on WHY not to use flex panels on the roof...fortunately my little Airstream Basecamp comes with a solar charging port for the portable panels so that helps along with 180 watts on the roof, factory install

  • @randomspirit
    @randomspirit Před rokem

    Scary!!! Glad it turned out well!

  • @robertpolito6139
    @robertpolito6139 Před rokem

    I have 4 all power Facilbles panels glued to a rounded roof of my camper van for the last 5 years with no problems. One of my wires broke on one of my panels one time and I able to easily solder the wire back into the little box on top of the panel and that was my felt.

    • @EatSeeRV
      @EatSeeRV  Před rokem

      Awesome! Glad to hear it's worked out for you.

  • @b-sanddog4149
    @b-sanddog4149 Před 5 měsíci

    Safety and application are Paramount with flexible solar panels. I’m adding several 200 W renogy panels the new style but I’m gonna have a 3/8” air gap running under each one with a drain area for water. Technically they’re not touching the roof and I won’t be ( taping the edges ), air circulation is Paramount using 3M-VHB 62 to hold down. 😎😎😎😎😎

  • @jrlong3490
    @jrlong3490 Před rokem

    Wow, glad I do not have flexible panels on my RV roof. You were lucky that you had the FlexArmor roof that is fire retardant. We loved our couple of days at Balloon Fiesta this year, even with rain and only one mass ascent day. Safe travels.

    • @EatSeeRV
      @EatSeeRV  Před rokem

      Glad you don't either! Balloon fiesta rain or shine is magical for sure. So glad you enjoyed it

  • @shelribelin8144
    @shelribelin8144 Před rokem +5

    WOW!! How Crazy!! I am so glad your furry friends and you guys are okay. We will be purchasing a RV next year and planned on getting solar. I was really leaning toward flat / flexible panels like what you had on your RV. I had no idea they could catch fire like that. Thank you so very much for sharing your story. Thanks Again and Safe Travels.

    • @EatSeeRV
      @EatSeeRV  Před rokem

      I'm glad we could help you make a more informed decision. We had no idea this was even a risk when we were choosing! So scary. Congrats on the purchase and wishing you all well. - Liz

  • @SuperBlobsterMan
    @SuperBlobsterMan Před měsícem

    The burning can happen if you don't fuse between panels if you are connecting them in parallel. The solar panel fails but still has voltage across its positive/negative from the other parallel panels. If they are wired in series you will notice much earlier that there is a failure because your entire array will go offline.

  • @ruffus8039
    @ruffus8039 Před 11 měsíci

    It's a good idea to have each panel being fused, If there is an issue with one panel, it'll blow the fuse & not effect the good remaining panels. Cheap cost for additional peace of mind.

  • @billtuckjr2834
    @billtuckjr2834 Před rokem

    You do Fantastic Commericals. I hope you go Big Time.

  • @JHA6100
    @JHA6100 Před rokem

    So very sorry that this happened to you as who wants to pay multiple times for technology, but the good news is nobody was hurt and damage to your rig was reparable. Great PSA. Enjoy the Balloon Festival. I love solar & the independence that it offers.

  • @Erin-Thor
    @Erin-Thor Před 28 dny

    Of COURSE the manufacturer says it wasn’t their fault. The fact that there were multiple failures when the panel is called FLEXIBLE but cracks and burns when flexed, is scary. I’m curious if this is common among other flexible manufacturers.

  • @andymeow7324
    @andymeow7324 Před rokem

    another disadvantage is that its life will be surprisingly shorten when exposing to rains. Mine is foldable CIGS, and it stopped working in few months after working a couple times under rain.

  • @marydean1440
    @marydean1440 Před rokem

    So scary! Glad you are okay!

    • @EatSeeRV
      @EatSeeRV  Před rokem +1

      Yes we're very glad it wasn't worse!

  • @charlesd3376
    @charlesd3376 Před rokem

    For what its worth, here is a quote from DOE "Design flaws, component defects, and faulty installation generally cause solar rooftop fires." This same info is quoted by a company in the UK, I believe in April 22 after a fire was reported as caused by solar panels.

  • @mikamika2508
    @mikamika2508 Před rokem +2

    Okay i know i am wrong but the crispy cats was hilarious 😆😆😆😆 i am sorry...

  • @steveminton1099
    @steveminton1099 Před 11 měsíci

    I had flex panels for the same reason - weight. They lasted 3 months in southern Georgia Sun.

  • @Calamiti999Fine
    @Calamiti999Fine Před rokem +1

    The rumor is that rigid panels are safer for rv roof applications….might be the reason that the Bplus Mfrs like Leisure changed to rigid panels. Glad you guys were ok.

    • @EatSeeRV
      @EatSeeRV  Před rokem +1

      Yes, it may be! I hope manufacturers get rid of this as an option for RVers. It's just not safe!

  • @KapKen
    @KapKen Před 3 měsíci

    Glad I saw your video. I just laid 2 of them on my camper van that I am building. I was hoping to keep a low profile without the panels being noticeable. But, possible fire is not worth it. Would it be worth trying a fire resistant something under the panels?

    • @EatSeeRV
      @EatSeeRV  Před 3 měsíci

      Everyone says air gap but we were told by the manufacturer not to do that because it breaks the membranes with wind 🍃 we recommend hard panels

  • @pureblood2020
    @pureblood2020 Před 11 měsíci +2

    Wow, go with solid panels and let them get some air underneath.

  • @garretlewis4103
    @garretlewis4103 Před rokem

    Lucky 7….. It was bad. Glad it wasn’t worse. Stay safe guys.

    • @EatSeeRV
      @EatSeeRV  Před rokem

      We're SO glad it wasn't worse! Thank you for your well wishes.

  • @hugoheykers5826
    @hugoheykers5826 Před rokem +2

    ALWAYS see that there is some space between the panel and the RV roof (no matter you use flexible panels or not)...for ventilation...so your mounting of the panels was incorrect ! You may be very lucky that the damage is restricted...

    • @EatSeeRV
      @EatSeeRV  Před rokem

      We followed the instructions of the panels. They are made to be directly applied. We had air gaps in the flexible panel installation before and they still failed. Flexible panels just not good for RV use.

  • @vincentstouter449
    @vincentstouter449 Před rokem +3

    🤔
    The solid panels are warrantee’d for 25+ years, they are less expensive than flex panels, they allow cooling air flow + an air gap below the panel, and lastly solid framed panels may be inclined (if so designed) to optimize the incident angle to the sun (increasing efficiency about 30%).
    Thanks for the valuable OE (Operational Experience). We are very happy for your home and kitties 🐱 🐱 salvation. 👏🙏👍.

  • @kj22601
    @kj22601 Před rokem

    It is highly recommended that anyone setting up a off grid/vehicle power system that you should invest in a thermal camera. Not just to inspect your solar panels but your electrical connections, batteries and wiring. Inspect at least least every 6 months. In a RV or mobile power station you should check more often. The panels you installed could catch fire in the same way the flex able ones did. All it takes is something falling on them witch is much more likely in a vehicle than a stationary array where you can negate most threats.

  • @endeavour2968
    @endeavour2968 Před 9 měsíci

    I’ve had 4x 100w flexi panels on roof of my steel boat for the passed 4.5 years in full sun and the only fault I have is they have gone slightly cloudy, not so much as to look off but don’t look like new any more and output hasn’t dropped. PPS mine have been walked on a number of times, usually when one looses balance and this has not degraded the panels. I do think what you pay for panel can effect quality, for me I use them as don’t produce wind noise or can’t get things caught on them. But then my roof is 4mm thick steel, but does get hot enough to rain water to instant steam.

  • @lindagolden9892
    @lindagolden9892 Před rokem +1

    Would you please share info regarding the added roof protection you’ve added on, approx cost for such or a link where I might obtain info. 🚌

    • @EatSeeRV
      @EatSeeRV  Před rokem +1

      For the FlexArmor Roof? Sure thing you can see our video here: czcams.com/video/xBAcvIqFtKc/video.html Cost is determined by the length of your RV. But the website will give you a free quote based on your specific rig.

  • @Hemifan4266
    @Hemifan4266 Před rokem

    I have a 100ah Renogy lithium battery. The thing is a power brick. I installed it, Turned on everything in the RV, turned on the inverter and started to test it. I used a blow dryer on low for about 20 minutes, turned on the TV, turned one all the lights in the coach, turned on the big ceiling vent fan in the bathroom, turned on the stove hood fan and light and fridge, 2 hours later it was registering 96%. I have an old 100 watt flexible solar panel on the roof that only puts out 30 to 50 watts. I turned everything off, and in about 5 minutes the battery was showing 100%. I am sure it was still charging, but I could easily last overnight with regular usage over an overnight stop. No, you cant use the microwave or A/C. I can use a fan and be fine for a night. I am going to upgrade the solar controller to a Renogy 40 amp unit and a 200 watt Renogy rigid panel. I can see boon-docking for a week with no issues. Renogy rocks.

  • @ladikmk
    @ladikmk Před rokem +1

    Whoa!!! So glad you’re ok; it could have been much, much worse. I read through all the comments and based on this video and those comments, I’d never use flexible solar panels. Not happening!

    • @EatSeeRV
      @EatSeeRV  Před rokem

      For sure couldn't agree more.

    • @jascaf1503
      @jascaf1503 Před rokem

      they are great for portable fold outs; would never mount to RV or any other surface.

  • @eaglefistfu
    @eaglefistfu Před rokem

    Flexible flat mount panels are known to get hot and be inefficient. Ease of application over function and safety. Further, anyway you can cool a panel down and get airflow underneath it is good for the panel and its efficiency. I mounted mine on struts (granted I have a 5th wheel) and they are very secure, less homes, and plenty of airflow without affecting much of the aerodynamics. Glad you guys switch over!

    • @EatSeeRV
      @EatSeeRV  Před rokem

      Glad they're working for you. We had a similar mounting situation for our last ones and they still failed a year and a half in.

    • @eaglefistfu
      @eaglefistfu Před rokem

      @@EatSeeRV correction, I mounted my ridged panels on struts haha. Not a fan of the flat stickies. 😁

  • @OldJohnT102347
    @OldJohnT102347 Před rokem

    YIKES glad yall and RV are all okay. I thought you had or were selling that RV ?? It will be MUCH better now. I prefer rigid and elevated (maybe 1.5 inches) panels for the improved air circulation and cooling UNDERNEATH which can yield more energy harvest. Did you consider one or two 200 to 300 Watt individual panels that are around 39 x 64 inches IF your roof space allowed ?? Keep up the good work and videos.
    John T BSEE,JD Electrical Engineer and 50 year RV owner

    • @EatSeeRV
      @EatSeeRV  Před rokem

      We considered 200 at first but they didn't fit. Rigid our definitely our preference now too.

  • @netposerx
    @netposerx Před rokem

    Stoked to see that's all it did. Rigid panels are much better.

    • @EatSeeRV
      @EatSeeRV  Před rokem

      No kidding! We were so grateful. 100% agree rigid panels are the way to go!

  • @Handirifle
    @Handirifle Před 10 měsíci

    One reason I went with rigid panels. Not expecting fire, but with no cooling capabilities, they are less effecient.

  • @jtnoodle
    @jtnoodle Před rokem +1

    From Will Prowses' Mobile Solar website:
    "Flexible Solar Panels? Don't Buy them!
    ​You have been warned:
    Every single flex panel on the market is garbage. I challenge anyone to prove me wrong on this. I have destroyed stacks of these things. The cells crack easily and take out a whole string of cells when the bus bars break. Or they have extreme degradation after a few months of summer. Even the latest "CIGS" panels that I was so excited about, are having delamination problems.
    Do yourself a favor, and avoid the flex panels. None of them are good."
    I am very thankful I went rigid instead with my build 2 years ago.

  • @austindenney1384
    @austindenney1384 Před rokem

    Lucky and a good lesson for all

    • @EatSeeRV
      @EatSeeRV  Před rokem

      We're so grateful and yes made a good learning lesson for the RV community.

  • @Erin-Thor
    @Erin-Thor Před rokem +2

    I watched a CZcams video a while back discussing the different Solar Panel types, one what’s the flexible flush mount panels that you have. I believe the examples in the video was on an airstream, but one thing that they made clear, they produce heat, having space between the panels and the roof was critical, not just for heat dissipation, but for panel longevity as well. Heat makes things more brittle, roofs get hail, and heat flexes them too. Watching your installation one thing is clear… YOU NEED ABOUT AN INCH GAP BETWEEN THE ROOF AND THE PANELS. It did NOT look like you had that in your video. Be safe! ❤

    • @EatSeeRV
      @EatSeeRV  Před rokem +1

      We had the air gap on our first ones that failed. They actually recommend installing them directly to the roof. We followed their instructions.

    • @Erin-Thor
      @Erin-Thor Před rokem

      @@EatSeeRV - I’m no expert, but the point they made was the air gap was for heat dissipation. If you don’t want the heat transferred to your RV, a gap is needed. I’d consider a little research before assuming their recommendation was correct. Trust but verify is a good motto. Good luck!

  • @mariebrumer3440
    @mariebrumer3440 Před rokem

    Thank God. It could have been so much worse! Sounds like the FlexArmor roof coat made the difference! Take it from a Fire I nspector. 💖🙏✌️

    • @EatSeeRV
      @EatSeeRV  Před rokem

      Hahaha yes I do! Glad we had the extra safety from the roof

  • @TheDaztheraz
    @TheDaztheraz Před rokem

    Is there a reason the cables from the panels are so short, wouldn't it be neater to either have longer cables or plug directly into the panels?

  • @tonysitko2540
    @tonysitko2540 Před 2 měsíci

    I wondered about those no air underside to cool.

  • @tarac5137
    @tarac5137 Před rokem

    Scary! Glad y'all are okay. Sorry we didn't cross paths in ABQ! 🎈

    • @EatSeeRV
      @EatSeeRV  Před rokem +1

      Me too! I can't believe we missed you ❤️ Did you enjoy it? We had a BLAST!

    • @tarac5137
      @tarac5137 Před rokem

      @@EatSeeRV it was great, despite the cool and rainy weather. So impressed by the captains and crews.

    • @EatSeeRV
      @EatSeeRV  Před rokem +1

      Yes it's amazing!

  • @DavidDavid25365
    @DavidDavid25365 Před 2 dny

    Same thinf has happen to my 6month flexible panel but on a small level. 4 dime size. Wasnt sure what or when this happen but panel still works because is has 48 blocking diodes and its on a ladder rack so not on my roof. I think a tree limb may have fallen on it

  • @JarheadAndGingersJourney

    Oh wow. That is scary. Crazy you'd only had the panels 5 weeks.

  • @healeybob1
    @healeybob1 Před rokem +1

    Thats why I use rigid panels and mount them up off the roof.

    • @EatSeeRV
      @EatSeeRV  Před rokem

      Definitely what we recommend!

  • @s1d3ll18
    @s1d3ll18 Před rokem

    You guys are so lucky... i do have a serious question... why did the fuses or breakers not trip... that is what they are in the circuit. The arcing should have blown or tripped something... stay safe

    • @EatSeeRV
      @EatSeeRV  Před rokem

      Because it combusted in the panels not from power going to the panels. The fuses were never involved.

  • @AppaTalks
    @AppaTalks Před rokem

    0:52 It was kinda of a funny joke, I did laugh lol

  • @davidsalvador8989
    @davidsalvador8989 Před měsícem

    I have a curious question. I have seen that these flexible panels have been melting like this also. But my question is, is the spray armor conductive or non conductive? Curious.

    • @EatSeeRV
      @EatSeeRV  Před měsícem +1

      We haven't had any other issues with flexarmor burning with other applications on the roof. The issue is the flexible panels.

  • @kelanth462
    @kelanth462 Před rokem

    Wow did a number on the new roof.
    Is this going to effect the sale price?

    • @EatSeeRV
      @EatSeeRV  Před rokem +2

      I hope not (and wouldn't think so). If anything it should re-instill the value of the roof we had installed and now the added security of our solar panels. The roof itself is as good as new after being repaired.

  • @allenbaxter5180
    @allenbaxter5180 Před rokem

    YE HAW Technology don't ya just love it

  • @fvrrljr
    @fvrrljr Před rokem

    photovoltaic/solar thermal technician here: proper terminology is required here. i know we're all in the same page as that they all produce electricity by converting the sun energy.
    monocrsytalline, polycrsytalline and amorphous are the three types of solar panels.
    monocrystalline and polycrystalline are the "rigid ones"
    amorphous is the "flexible panels"
    monocrystslline are more efficient than polycrystalline cells and can be smaller in size for the same output. polycrystalline are less efficient than monocrystalline solar cells and require a larger surface area for the same output. amorphous require twice as much surface area for the same power output as a monocrystalline, they are flexible and can handle higher temperatures better which to me is an oxymoron. handles temperature but not damage hence the fire. amourphous still has it's function i have some too. FYI Mono and Poly solar panels when on fire still are producing electricity and you can be electrocuted.

  • @AndrewGlaser-ty7wj
    @AndrewGlaser-ty7wj Před měsícem

    0:51 look how wet they are underneath, moisture was getting in and not getting out, moisture and electricity don't mix

  • @noahriding5780
    @noahriding5780 Před 7 měsíci

    I have lately been wondering if there's like an anti fire material layer that could be put between panels and a roof, either for houses or RVs?
    Also, I'm curious... this problem specifically is happening to many people. So is it happening because of the guage of wire being wrong... the panel using concentrators/concentration too much?? or What? There must be a reason that most of the fires are happening at the panels instead of on the wires themselves or at the charge controller... ?
    If someone uses too low rating of wiring going from panel to charge controller this can be an issue. So can charge controller being too weak, unable to deal with the power, if the battery gets overcharged and its lithium that can be fire too. BUT what these people didn't tell you is that the fault being from different places means the fire and burnage would be in different places. NOT the same place.
    ...
    You can also check if the guage of the wire that's carrying your power load from the panels to your system is rated high enough for all the load its carrying. This is important. Like 10 guage wire is built for 30 amps typically. A lot of people are putting more than 30 amps through, which is roughly 4 100 watt panels.

  • @jxpat
    @jxpat Před 29 dny

    Install fuses inline with the solar panels. This would have prevented the fire.

  • @bussingwithbain
    @bussingwithbain Před rokem

    Yup need air flow under panels. That's why I would never use stick down panels,not worth weight savings.... Sorry for this,glad your ok.

    • @EatSeeRV
      @EatSeeRV  Před rokem

      Thanks! We're glad all is well too. We had air flow under our last ones and they still failed a year and a half in. So while less fire hazard still not worth the money.

  • @user-th4oh9ek8k
    @user-th4oh9ek8k Před 9 měsíci

    This should be entitled, "How to write a commercial" for CZcams. Yeah, it's bad this happened, but the point here is for you to use their link to buy this product.

  • @stevewoods8116
    @stevewoods8116 Před rokem +1

    Just 2 minutes in and you probably answer this and I will keep watching. But what did the manufacturer say about this type of mounting? Asking now because I might have to pause video and not come backfor an hour.

    • @EatSeeRV
      @EatSeeRV  Před rokem +1

      The manufacturer says you should adhere it to the roof tightly so no air can get in (tape on the sides isn't enough). But from further research that can cause hot spots since there's no breathability underneath the panel and can cause a fire that way. They simply aren't worth the risk!

    • @stevewoods8116
      @stevewoods8116 Před rokem +2

      @@EatSeeRV Thanks!!!! I thought you used them outside their scope, but you didn't. I was thinking where is the cooling effect, (breathability). These people need put out of business before they kill someone. I hope you pursue a settlement from them!

  • @trevortrevortsr2
    @trevortrevortsr2 Před rokem

    Flexable panels are far frailer than ridged - with a clear plastic insulator to the front and no circulation from the back the heat poured in with no way to get out - failure was inevitable eventually - the only effective solution is ridged panels mounted so air circulates under - I use rec twin peak on my RV and they work flawless - some of the tiled types are even better

  • @user-dy9ux5dc6e
    @user-dy9ux5dc6e Před 6 měsíci

    Are you sure it had nothing to do with the panel quality? Renogy has flexible panels and people swear by them - they look alot tougher then your AIMS.. Or the new CIGS panels that claim hurricane force hail resistance.

  • @jerryphillips7330
    @jerryphillips7330 Před rokem +1

    Well, that was one big ad. I hope Renogy gave you free panels.

    • @EatSeeRV
      @EatSeeRV  Před rokem +1

      We bought the panels but did partner with Renogy for this video. Sorry you felt it was one big ad. We did the best job we could explaining what happened, why, and what we're doing to fix it.

  • @thomassmith8143
    @thomassmith8143 Před 8 dny

    Hi interesting video i was going to buy 4 Renogy flexible solar panels for my van so are you saying all flexible solar panels are not worth it including the renogy flexible panels?
    As im in two minds now what panels to use
    Renogy say there flexible solar panels are ok for RV use

    • @EatSeeRV
      @EatSeeRV  Před 6 dny

      I would not buy flexible panels at all no matter than brand unless my RV roof was oddly shaped and it was the only solution.

    • @thomassmith8143
      @thomassmith8143 Před 6 dny

      @@EatSeeRV hi again
      thanks I'm gonna go with the rigid soler panels from Renogy uk
      thank you for your video and advice keep driving and smiling
      all the best tom

  • @Cymaphore
    @Cymaphore Před 2 měsíci

    Put XPS / Styrofoam or other insulation directly on the bottom skin of a rigid panel and you will see similar faults - not as immediate, because rigid panels are usually covered by glass on top and more heat resistive silicone on the bottom. However, this will reduce lifetime dramatically. Putting panels directly on an thermal insulated surface is always a bad idea.

  • @platinumbenzman
    @platinumbenzman Před 11 měsíci

    I just wanted to know were they recently pressure washed? it can do it too.

    • @EatSeeRV
      @EatSeeRV  Před 11 měsíci +1

      They've never been pressure washed

    • @sunjayjay240
      @sunjayjay240 Před 11 měsíci

      Is it alright to cover with epoxy temp resistant covering entire glass to stop of any ingress of moisture water?
      cost if 550W panel is 100$
      cant just throw like that
      But risk is there for any fire???
      Although I connected all 5 panels + 3 slightly damaged in series got 300V +
      just for experiment
      But if I coonect permanently on the rooof what dangers can i expect??

  • @erickramer9291
    @erickramer9291 Před rokem

    How much will this lower the price?
    Love your show

    • @EatSeeRV
      @EatSeeRV  Před rokem

      We will be updating it's status in the next day. We're 99.9% sure she's sold

    • @EatSeeRV
      @EatSeeRV  Před rokem

      Also it shouldn't impact it's price at all. It's been repaired and now has superior panels. The roof is better than new!

  • @vincentgonzales8917
    @vincentgonzales8917 Před rokem

    Don't you worry about large hail breaking the psnels

    • @EatSeeRV
      @EatSeeRV  Před rokem

      No. We've been in 1 hail storm with rigid panels before and they did fine. Also we try not to be in places with frequent hail storms haha!

  • @markelkins8432
    @markelkins8432 Před rokem

    Ouch!
    Two things - you seemed to have a lot of unused roof - yet only installed 3 x 100Watts. Later on - you seem to admit that 300Watts is not enough for all your needs - why didn't you add more PV's or simply try and cover the roof with PV panels. Could have gotten the extra threaded studs installed on the roof quite easily!
    And - you wired up the three panels in parallel - which suggests you are using a PWM device between PV's and Batteries. I would have though running a number of panels in series (as long as shade is not a problem) and feeding that through an MPPT controller would be more efficient and give you a slightly longer charging period per day.
    I'd also check that the panels have by-pass diodes - which helps with partial shading and could reduce issues with a bad cell.

    • @EatSeeRV
      @EatSeeRV  Před rokem

      300 watts was more than enough for our needs. We had 300 before and never had to turn our generator on. It was that a chassis charger alone was not enough for our needs.

  • @Back-countrysolar
    @Back-countrysolar Před 10 měsíci

    Wow, that sucks. It's important to understand that this is a crystalline style flexible solar panel. The kind that are most abundant. They claim they can be bent to 30 degrees and whatnot. There is also another technology for flexible solar panels called CIGS. It's a much better design with longer life solar panels, big flexibility, and more efficient.
    The crystalline style solar panels are just a bad idea on the top of your RV. But for a mobile style solar system they work very well. Just keep in mind that not all flexible solar panels are built the same.