Having removed a steel Rock n Roll bed from a camper I completely appreciate your efforts in aluminium, it was ridiculously heavy, as were the cushions and boards behind them, this is an area where you can save SO much weight! Well done, keep sharing.
Folding a tarp or tent. Don’t do it, stuff it. When you fold you often fold in the same pace time after time, The urethane coating on the fold wears out and you have a leak. By stuffing you avoid this problem. Your videos are excellent and I’ll follow your model for a rock and roll bed. Thanks
Hi there. I noticed that You don't use any support on your bed , where the hinges are. I get that on the seating mode it does not play a role. But if you fold it to bed mode, how are the hinges holding? I see you have used four pieces of hinges on each side. Is that enough? For example crawling into bed from side door, ideally you want to place your knee just about, where those hinges are. Applying this pressure, ever been a issue? Otherwise great idea on the ergonomic chair. Would like to use similar solution.
Good question. The hinges are very strong, so the span it carries is not too bad. I do always out my knee where you mention and have never had an issue. The other side has contact with the frame making the cantilever about 4". If you were to go much further then the hinges might not be sufficient.
Good question. The hinges are very strong, so the span it carries is not too bad. I do always out my knee where you mention and have never had an issue. The other side has contact with the frame making the cantilever about 4". If you were to go much further then the hinges might not be sufficient.
@@GotMountainsThanks for reply. In another video, where You tore bed out, I noticed that u have used support legs under the hinges. Although bed level is slightly higher than seating level, allowing that comfortable seating angle. How does that work? Where would that support be when it is on the seating mode, because it would be too long too fit under there? I probably missing something?
@@gertseegel749 Good eye...those are on the seat back section (I sold that van 6 months ago so going from memory), but those tucked pointing straight back on either side of the battery so they didn't affect how the seat rested. My new bed is totally different to avoid all that, but for that bed it actually worked quite well.
@@GotMountains allright I see these are actually folding behing, not under. So you want to say that there was bit of a problem folding it? Is there any information about ur new bed? this is all very valuable information. thanks for sharing
The material itself is surprisingly affordable, but the fittings and hardware are where they get you. In materials, the bed was around $500 excluding the upholstery
You said you ran batteries when you were not running shore power and the shore power charge those batteries when you were using shore power... Do you have a video on how you accomplish this?
Hi, Great build and series! Do you have any videos(or can recommend any) for creating the floor in the mini-van? I recently bought a 2008 Toyota SIenna AWD to start converting it into a mini-van-camper
The floor will depend on what's underneath yours. We stripped hours down to the metal but newer Vans have a lot more junk that gets in the way. It might almost be best just to lay quarter-inch plywood on your existing floor and build from there.
Hi!! Your bed inspired us to do something similar in our van! The issue were having is we made one single unit as opposed to the two that you made, and we’re having a hard time lifting it into the couch position because it’s so heavy. any ideas as to how to improve the leverage so it’s easier to lift up with all the weight? Thanks so much!
is there even a locking mechanism think ill pass and make a removable back rest for the sofa so it slots on top of 2 rails also no seat belts so would be breaking the laws
Sure, I use this hinge from AliExpress. It's a fraction of the cost of the brand name ones. I used the 3030 size for the 10 Series stuff. www.aliexpress.com/item/33049093137.html
Initially I didn't use any Loctite, so I pulled it all apart and re-did it all. It's been perfect ever since! It's only my unwashed dished in the sink that rattle now 😂
@@GotMountains There is also option 15x15mm (series 15?) - do you think 15x15 would be strong enough OR 20x20 is your choice for the next build? Thanks
@@byn1975 Yep, the smallest one. In hindsight, I think it would have been more than strong enough for my needs. Also, I prefer metric...haha. The math is easier!
@@byn1975 Oh, the 15 Series is also Imperial. It is 1.5" x 1.5" and VERY heavy. It is almost 3 times the weight per foot, but is much stronger. I used some to build a hitch swing arm for the back of the van. I think overkill for most applications unless lots of weight is being handled by it.
Like this video? You should see the whole playlist ☺️. You can find it here: czcams.com/play/PLhdXnS65QjoHQfkaMu7hzBaWcdigHmKas.html
Having removed a steel Rock n Roll bed from a camper I completely appreciate your efforts in aluminium, it was ridiculously heavy, as were the cushions and boards behind them, this is an area where you can save SO much weight! Well done, keep sharing.
Thanks! Excess weight was something we wanted to avoid like the plague, we're so glad we discovered 8020!
Fantastic to see this further information about your excellent bed! Thanks.
Glad it was helpful!
nice..how about roof rack using this materials..
Yes, if you see my later videos you'll see the one I built for storage and the roof top tent. It works very well for that.
good info and design
Thank you!
Folding a tarp or tent. Don’t do it, stuff it. When you fold you often fold in the same pace time after time, The urethane coating on the fold wears out and you have a leak. By stuffing you avoid this problem. Your videos are excellent and I’ll follow your model for a rock and roll bed. Thanks
That's good advice, I never thought about that. I'll have to start stuffing it from now on! Thanks for the love!
Awesome cabinets. Bro. I had mi previa and i will like to to something like this. Love itt
Congrats
Thank you! Previas are amazing vehicles! Are you posting videos of your build?
Hi there. I noticed that You don't use any support on your bed , where the hinges are. I get that on the seating mode it does not play a role. But if you fold it to bed mode, how are the hinges holding? I see you have used four pieces of hinges on each side. Is that enough? For example crawling into bed from side door, ideally you want to place your knee just about, where those hinges are. Applying this pressure, ever been a issue? Otherwise great idea on the ergonomic chair. Would like to use similar solution.
Good question. The hinges are very strong, so the span it carries is not too bad. I do always out my knee where you mention and have never had an issue. The other side has contact with the frame making the cantilever about 4". If you were to go much further then the hinges might not be sufficient.
Good question. The hinges are very strong, so the span it carries is not too bad. I do always out my knee where you mention and have never had an issue. The other side has contact with the frame making the cantilever about 4". If you were to go much further then the hinges might not be sufficient.
@@GotMountainsThanks for reply. In another video, where You tore bed out, I noticed that u have used support legs under the hinges. Although bed level is slightly higher than seating level, allowing that comfortable seating angle. How does that work? Where would that support be when it is on the seating mode, because it would be too long too fit under there? I probably missing something?
@@gertseegel749 Good eye...those are on the seat back section (I sold that van 6 months ago so going from memory), but those tucked pointing straight back on either side of the battery so they didn't affect how the seat rested. My new bed is totally different to avoid all that, but for that bed it actually worked quite well.
@@GotMountains allright I see these are actually folding behing, not under. So you want to say that there was bit of a problem folding it? Is there any information about ur new bed? this is all very valuable information. thanks for sharing
Super
Thanks!
Very sturdy and adjustable. How much a system like this cost?
The material itself is surprisingly affordable, but the fittings and hardware are where they get you. In materials, the bed was around $500 excluding the upholstery
You said you ran batteries when you were not running shore power and the shore power charge those batteries when you were using shore power... Do you have a video on how you accomplish this?
Not yet, I need to do one. I used a heavy duty relay to make it automatic. I'll add that to my list!
Hi, Great build and series! Do you have any videos(or can recommend any) for creating the floor in the mini-van? I recently bought a 2008 Toyota SIenna AWD to start converting it into a mini-van-camper
The floor will depend on what's underneath yours. We stripped hours down to the metal but newer Vans have a lot more junk that gets in the way. It might almost be best just to lay quarter-inch plywood on your existing floor and build from there.
Why did you tap and drill to connect the ends in part 2 and not just use another corner bracket?
The corner bracket is a bit stronger but with motion can loosen over time. Drilling and tapping make the connection bombproof.
Hi!! Your bed inspired us to do something similar in our van! The issue were having is we made one single unit as opposed to the two that you made, and we’re having a hard time lifting it into the couch position because it’s so heavy. any ideas as to how to improve the leverage so it’s easier to lift up with all the weight? Thanks so much!
Hmm, I'm not sure... This one is super light, so I'm not sure I can imagine how yours could be heavy. What is it made from?
is there even a locking mechanism think ill pass and make a removable back rest for the sofa so it slots on top of 2 rails also no seat belts so would be breaking the laws
There are seatbelts...this video is only one step in the whole build process.
what is the cost for the rock n roll bed, closet & counter top next to closet? we have a 1995 previa and would like to install a similar product
That's tough to answer...the bed is about $1200USD but the rest is about $400 in materials and 15-20 hours of labour.
Do you have a supply list of all the 80/20
Yes, I have it on my website GotMountains.ca. I'm also working with @heitekautomation to build a package that you can buy.
can you post the where you purchased the hinges and fasteners? Also can you share the 3d model of the 3d printed item?
Yes, they are listed in the Part 1 video description here: czcams.com/video/A9BVgY66j5M/video.html
What software are you using?
I just used the free version of SketchUp.
Would you mind sharing the model number of the hinge you use? I need one for a build in doing but can't find it!
Sure, I use this hinge from AliExpress. It's a fraction of the cost of the brand name ones. I used the 3030 size for the 10 Series stuff. www.aliexpress.com/item/33049093137.html
What size is the aluminum? 25mm?
There is a 25mm version, but this one is 1", so technically 25.2mm
Hi! Any squeaks or loosening over time? Had to retighten later? If so, recommend any product for that? Thank you!
Initially I didn't use any Loctite, so I pulled it all apart and re-did it all. It's been perfect ever since! It's only my unwashed dished in the sink that rattle now 😂
Hi! What are the measurements of the aluminium you used? We are looking at either 30by30mm or 40by40mm for our frames (eg bed and cabinets). Thanks!
I used 25x25 and it was probably overkill. I think those sizes will end up being too large.
What size is that aluminum?
The series I used was 1" x 1"
Reduce music volume
Yeah, this was one of our first...lol
Why on earth do you have that music playing over your commentary. Extremely annoying and pointless.
Very useful video
We liked the music...lol
What series of 80/20 is used for this frame? Is it series 20 (20mm) or series 10 (1 inch) or which one?
This was 10 series. Next time I think I'd try using the 20 series as the 10 is probably stronger than it needs to be.
@@GotMountains For the 20 series do you mean 20x20mm ?
@@GotMountains There is also option 15x15mm (series 15?) - do you think 15x15 would be strong enough OR 20x20 is your choice for the next build? Thanks
@@byn1975 Yep, the smallest one. In hindsight, I think it would have been more than strong enough for my needs. Also, I prefer metric...haha. The math is easier!
@@byn1975 Oh, the 15 Series is also Imperial. It is 1.5" x 1.5" and VERY heavy. It is almost 3 times the weight per foot, but is much stronger. I used some to build a hitch swing arm for the back of the van. I think overkill for most applications unless lots of weight is being handled by it.