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Disclaimer: the actions performed in this video are executed by professionals or individuals that consider themselves professional on a closed circuit within the local regulations.
00:00 Intro/Specs
03:12 Lap
12:16 Verdict - Auta a dopravní prostředky
That looked really smooth, the soft suspension and noise suppresion is great lmao.
Shame it didn't have the performance pack with DCC shocks. Then you would have completely adjustable suspension and in Nurburgring mode it would not upshift by itself (you can hit the limiter). It would show how capable this car can be in the best stock version possible, not even mentioning that the rear-diff also changes it's behavior in that mode. Also you would have 272 km/h top speed instead of 250.
Agreed. I'm really glad that there is a 8 R video on the channel finally, so thanks for that Misha! But if you get the opportunity to try a Performance Pack + DCC car please do so :) .
Where should he have benefit from the 272 km/h? The other things sound good, but I hardly believe that he would've used any or most of it because it's always a "I hop in this car and go for a ride". We see that with most cars. He would need more time with a car to get the best out of it.
I have ACC. I have to be really honest here and say for a long time I’ve liked my old 7.5 more, but the 8 is steady growing on me.
Can’t believe people would get it without the DCC, it’s the best thing about my R!
DCC is pointless if you want aftermarket Coilovers anyways
7:51 the u turn from the owner was unreal 😂
The car, the driver and the owner are all amazing.
@@SHIZURAKU He is right :) They are all great.
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@@lobobaltazar1322
The drivers great, the car not so much.
Do you own a 8R?
@@CTF33Have to disagree. I have the 20 Years edition of the Mk8 R, with DCC, and it’s just fabulous. I came to it after several Porsches and I think I love this little car most of all (sacrilege I know)
This lap filled with " Regular cars " had an awesome Gran Turismo Sunday Cup vibe to it ❤
Wish you could review a MK8 R with the performance package that includes larger brakes, adoptive suspension, Nurburgring mode, drift mode and more. Really makes a difference
It does make a difference, agreed. But the Performance Package uses the exact same braking configuration as the standard G8R.
@@shekk0r Ah yes. It’s the GTI vs GTI performance that gets upgraded brakes. Those match the R brakes. Got you
@@mqbr22 Correct. No matter what spec you have of the 8 R, you always have the 360mm rotors with the 2 piston calipers. Which are quite adequate as can be seen in the video. Still,, better to buy a brake kit + upgraded lines if you're going to track the car a lot though.
Those errors with travel assist are to do with the steering wheel capacitive sensor, had the same issue on my mk8 golf. Replacing the steering wheel fixes it
same with mine lol
Volkswagen made a good job. Why testing when the customers can do this. 💪🏻
@@B0mm3Lkillslol
Same on our arteon, had to change it two times
@@nikos3330 my friend has a 2015 Golf R with 75.000 km. No problems so far. Definitily the last good Golf imo.
I have a GTE golf 8 if you ever want to try the heavier one of the bunch. Would be interesting to see if the weight of the battery in the back changes the handling significantly
is it hybrid or full electric?
@@Iusniqa Plug-in hybrid! It has the 1.4 150ps petrol engine with a 110ps electric motor. Makes 245ps (as much as the GTI) and 400Nm of torque (as much as the GTD)
Didn't see anyone race it on track so i wonder how well it does
@@riep69 how is the fuel consumption ?
I can tell you from experience that the GTE without the electric boost is slower than the standard TFSi 150 but as quick if not a little quicker than standard GTi with the e boost
The seat version handles quite nice, it's not as front heavy as you would expect from a car. But I have no comparison to other MQB cars of that generation.
@zalu consumption for normal driving around 18-25kWh. With Hybrid it's 3-5L with full battery, 5-7 Liters with empty battery, on "fast" Autobahn sections it can drink 9-11L while not being very fast with it's 150hp. Only worth it if you use it in electric mode for most of the time in my opinion.
Discs are Tarox F2000. I have them too. I wonder why you'd upgrade discs only though - owner says he burned his previous pads, so maybe because of the (supposed) improved cooling of slotted discs? Anyway, they're considerably more noisy than flat discs - the vibration they're mentioning is not some defect, it's inherent with these discs.
What's the size of the dics?
My Golf 7R with stock rear discs also has this vibration from the rear after a slow ring lap but i though it was a warped disc. It's the pad what is the problem?
@@MauriceNL1 most likely warped disc, could also be glazed brake pads
If you use street pads on track and get them too hot, they can easily leave uneven pad deposits on the rotor. That leads to the “warped brakes” vibration.
Very rarely are the rotors actually warped.
the BMW in the beginning of the track blinking lights in the straight hahaha drag racers are the best!
noticed that, Some idiot thinking they are faster because of one straight, to then get humbled
was that an m135i?
The capacitive buttons and infotainment is easy to use after a week of owning. Those errors that occurred early and lap can be fixed by getting replacement wheel at dealer.
Don't hold your breath on the refreshed Mk8.5. Sure, they added real buttons to the wheel, but it has an even larger screen that looks glued onto the dash and it still has capactive touch "buttons" for everything else. Mk7.5 was peak GTI/R.
Misha love your videos. Ive searched this before and requested this multiple times, have you done a Audi B8.5 rs5. Would love to see one done by you one day on the nurburgring! 🙏👍🏻
That's the Mercedes which lost it's wheel at Brunchen! Nathan probably standing behind the fence, you can see his E36 parked!
10:40 is that the amg that lost its wheel?
What I love about the golf is it can be both a great track car, plus a very comfortable daily driver.
Perfect car for a casual enthusiast.
Just like Misha said, its an OK street car but not a great track car.
Lol, its far more than just "OK" as a street car, Misha said it's like a "GT", which is a statement i agree with (and this is not an insulting statement at all, it means the car is refined, composed and fit for long journeys). When it comes to track use, with the performance package (which was not seen here), sub 7m50s BTG's are possible, stock. You can call that "not great", i call that very fast for what this car is. It wasn't long ago (less than 10 years), that such times were considered miracles in a hot hatch.The only problem is reliability (such as cooling problems), which are a problem with every single brand on the market in this price bracket.
Call it what you want but even with PP it still has boring driving dynamics. Watch Misha's videos on the I20N and I30N to see what a great hot hatch should be like, FUN.
This guy coming to track for Misha to drive fast & be like don't kill my tyres lol come prepared for track day next time with diff wheels cause Misha drive every car on track like it's a hottas🤣
I have a golf r variant if u interested in comparing the hot hatch with the wagon 😉
(Including the performance package with Nürburgring mode)
My contention with the weight complaint is that it weighs as much as a prior-gen M2 or a current-gen AWD 911. It feels heavy because the suspension is soft. Drive one on coils and see how it feels.
A golf R with the performance pack fixes alot of the issues stated here: Understeer {Fix: trick torque vectoring software for the rear diff} Apparently all the mk8 Rs have the diff its just a matter of a software change, Automatic upshift {NB Mode allows you to bang off the limiter lol }. Nothing fixes the annoying steering wheel tho. And that rear wing probably adds some stability at high speeds. Overall ive owned my 22 performance R for a few months now and i love it!
Definitely, the 8r performance is better. Just wondering, where you got the information regarding the rear diff software being different to the stock 8r? I thought the difference in the rear diff was when drift mode engaged? I thought Special mode alters the shift points and idle.
@@doctorwho0072 “drift” mode is the software. Some mk8 Rs don’t have this enabled especially in the UK, sorta like different trim levels in the Golf R line regular Rs have a limited top speed, no rear wing and I believe they don’t have the N mods or a drift mode, paying an extra sum unlocks that software and adds the other bits too.
@dodga100 I agree. In the UK there are 3 spec available. The stock 8r, the 8r with performance pack and the 20th edition.
The performance pack adds a higher top speed, no auto shift , different shift points as part of the special( nurburgring) mode and drift mode. My understanding is that whilst the hardware for the rear diffential is identical, the difference in the software for the rear differential lies in the drift mode and not nurburgring mode. I could be wrong though. Other additions as mentioned are the bigger 19inch wheels and rear spoiler.
@doctorwho0072 I test drove a fully spect 8r and it had too much understeer for me.
Yes you can settle this with the rear diff, but you really have to push the throttle.
But I think with more chamber in the front and a new suspension e.g. KW Clubsport it will drive fine.
@UCh5Y7Xd0i3UUWRpAjFs yes you are right, it does have understeer, and the throttle usually sorts that out. The traction is incredible though. I dont plan on taking it to the track but it works really well as a fast , comfortable daily driver. There are better cars for track use and shouldn't really be driving it that fast on public roads to beyond its limits :p In my use case, it ticks all the boxes. It's fairly understated also, which is great to catch out the odd Porsche( cayman) and BMW I8 lol
I was thinking today to replace my vw passat b8 steering wheel to same as this golf8 but now I changed my mind for those touch buttons thnx to the honest owner review and good job to you Misha as allways you make me close to the thoughts of one day to visit Germany and to enjoy this track
Ironically the lane control error that they have it is caused by the steering wheel, VW of America is replacing those like crazy, so yeah stay away from that steering wheel 😂
13:30 is that the Tikt Performance c6z06?? Misha you should try to drive that sometime, or at least get a passenger ride
Strange that even the mk8 doesn't come with DCC as standard. Even the 5F Leon Cupra comes with it ticked on the pov spec models..
Man this engine sound and gear shifts sound so eventless 🥱🥱
Blame opf
bro can t stop whatching your videos. the one and the only mr.micha chraoudin . i hope u can put a honda accord 2.4 on the test
Its shame didn’t have dcc suspension option and r performance pack option with the Nur burg mode! Still great car either way. Great vid
Great job
Keep it up
Modern cars always make me think there's a "ghost in the shell", it always feels like there's something there when driving hard, you can't see it, but you can feel it.
Would my modded renault 19 sport be enough for the nurburgring?
The owner is so relaxed, even when near max speed, it seems he pretty well knows how cars behave when at their limits. I honestly don't like the modern Golfs (owned Golf 3, 4 and currently 6) but the Golf 8 R is at least really quick and doing well on the ring. Would enjoy taking a ride in the passenger seat at some point in the time, though.
340-342hp on the dyno fast beautiful vw! :)
too heavy though, quite a bit of understeer through tight corners. One of my best friends drives one for nearly 2 years now. Its very fast and great overall, but on short tight tracks (which can be found in my area) we experienced, it doesnt do well against lighter, less powered cars like alpine a 110 or Gr Yaris.
Cant wait for the 323 video. Cause.... Reasons 😉😉
i love the dashboard 😍
had EA888 gen3 in my previous car,very nice engine.
I hope that 323f is 1.8 (bp miata engine) not 1.5 (but exhaust indicates the smallest engine). I had one 2010-2016. Looking for the video!
It was a Mazda 3 MPS right?
Finally an honest owners opinion about how horrible the capacitive buttons are to live with on a daily basis. Most owners try to white wash it. I feel sorry for owners that have to live with it or upgrade to get real buttons.
I honestly don't mind it after 2 months
Said the abused wife who got smacked daily.🤜😢
@@CTF33 I am the one who owns the damn thing who are you
I'm the one who knocks. 😈
@@Arctis34CTF is the husband, 😅
Misha, which one would you chose
Clio rs mk3, type r fn2 or fiesta st
Clio rs best car for track, st best daily, civic (get an ep3 not fn2) best engine and emotion
You get used to the touch controls and everything pretty quick. You can turn the traction control off in a few seconds when it's favourited. I would get one with Nurburgring mode on it. You don't really want to drive it in any other mode.
Ever tried the seat Leon cupra st 300? 4drive of course.
The elantra N is beastttttttt 🤤🤤🤤
Mooi rondje.
10:35 nice to see another point of view of the mercedes that lost its wheel in the turn lol
I like this car. Even the looks😮 great daily
Good video
"Don't kill my tires" ????
WTF ...que crees que va a hacer dentro del circuito ???
He said he ways joking, but ya not a good joke lol
Ajjajajajja
@@TinyMiniStealtha mí también me hizo gracia como lo dijo al principio
Ça ma tuer le BM au début qui a voulu suivre avec ça merguez 🤣 vive VW
As a mk8 owner I have to said that the oil temp and coolant temp on dashboard were always lower than the actual temp
One thing Volkswagen (and other euros) do well compared to their Japanese counterparts is cooling management.
Love the way the cameras are set up now days 👍
The brake booster is annoying on track. Easy to remedy with additional coding.
When they release the mk8.5 facelift, I’m buying that steering wheel for my mk8. I’ll probably need to get in line
You need to drive a Kona N please.
The N would blow away this vw on track. It's not even close.
10:41min Is that the S211 E55 (or S211 E63) which lost his left rear tire? 🥴🫣🤷🏻♂️
Gearbox doesn’t seem very dsg like. It seems to be slurring the gears…..maybe wasn’t in R setting?
Misha! Did you delete the engine sounds pre-render, or did VW delete them pre-sales 😂
Which fuel you was using?. Thanks.
do you need a skoda octavia rs 5e hatchback on the channel? i want to come to the ring next year :)
I think the owner didn't turn off tcs properly, I tracked my mk8 R (used nurburgring mode) on the Bahrain International Circuit, and when I switched off TCS it started oversteering around almost every corner whenever I accelerate out of it, and had absolutely zero understeer, the more throttle I give it the sharper it turns basically
This is the base model without any options. So it hasn't adjustable suspension. It's a shame to buy a Golf R this way imo. If you spend all this money to buy the R model, just do it right then. He says in the video not willing to spend 2 grand for the performance pack. But the base car is what something about € 50 000? That's just 4% of the cost he already payed.
Also who puts uprated discs on a car without uprated pads?? Don't save on money if you buy a performance car or just buy something more affordable...
@@kevinghijs7330 the stock disks are already good so idk why did he do that in the 1st place, he could've spent that on the performance pack lmao
Also I was much quicker per lap than a stage 2 mk7 r because the mk8 r was significantly quicker around corners, the dude was confused with how much speed I was taking the corners at, he told me he was pushing hard but couldn't get close to my cornering speed, was only faster on a straight line because he had a stage 2 tune (420hp)
So yeah, paying the price diff on mods isn't gonna make the 7R faster around a track
0:08 What is the first temperature display on the top right?
Me: How do you feel about the Golf 8R?
Misha: 10:51
It does not have the performance package!!! Complete different vehicle with the extra options
3:38 of course BMW flashing lights lmaooo
I Thought He Was Going To Bee Nervous About His Tires The Whole Time… Thank God…!!!
Glad to see mk8R but without performance package it's not the one to test. Although owner needs to grow a pair
The only car that gets more notifications than Misha's phone 😵💫
Big difference to 8Y RS3?
How about cupra formentor with the same engine as golf 8 ?
Awesome seeing this car on the track, sad that it wasn't the NA spec with the DCC. I would 100% get 18" wheels, it has helped me so much making the car feel better in corners and over bumps. I have some concrete slab road near me with a bunch of seams, and with the DCC in stiff mode, I can feel every single one, but you put it in comfort and it's like they're not there. Completely changes the character of the car. Also, with the S+ mode you don't get the auto-upshifts, but you can't run that on any mode but the Special/Ring mode, so it's not available in Individual which is a shame.
Totally agree that it's a hot hatch GT car. The hatch makes it so much nicer, though, since you can actually carry a full set of wheels and tools in the back without any modification.
Mazda 323F? Mazda Lantis.....
Love the videos Misha
The capacitive touch not disappointing as usual like every other track video 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
literally just a stock mazda 3, fucking love my 2.3 with the right tires and tighter suspension
Good lap ..... 🎉
toyota celica 2zz 7th gen, i wanna see you do that. :)
If you happen to ever have a spare moment or 2 from flying ludicrous speed @high risk...could you teach the influencers & personal celebs how it's done?! Admirable ambassador
Needed to be in Nuremberg mode!
you can't let Misha behind the wheel and then ask him to go "EZ on the tires, pls"
Whos honda motorcycle is that at Apex? Cool bike
Great video, and great car. But as always... I CAN DO THAT IN A VAN! 🤣🤣🤣
This guy is basically playing a video game IRL (but without rewind) lol
I think the GTI is still probably the one to buy, especially for track days. The R makes a great daily driver, but the AWD also makes it heavier. The GTI being FWD makes it lighter and more nimble. Save your money by getting the GTI instead of the R, and modify the hell out of it. Then you got yourself a little Nurburgring beast.
Except the r puts down the power better especially in bad weather
@@Birmingham_racingif you watch most Nurburgring videos from channels like Auto Addiction and StatesideSupercars, you definitely see way more GTI’s than R’s. The GTI is definitely the preferred track car.
I feel like I remember meeting this guy at Bedford Autodrome on a track day, really nice guy, the car was basically brand new then… but if it wasn’t him it was his twin 🤣
Do a MK5 2.5 Manual. Please!
What about the mazda 323 ? ? ? Cant wait to see that little japanese marvel !
As capable as the car is on track, I just could not live with it as a daily with all the unnecessary assists to be switched off manually everytime and the "far too much touchscreen and touch controls"-depending user interface.
I know that most of the unnecessary assists are thanks to the EU and UK regulations, so I don't blame Volkswagen for it. However, I would appreciate the manufacturer which allows you to have a configurable button for which you can decide what to deactivate with one click/touch. If this is legally allowed, of course.
Man golfs are getting big, I dont like the 4 door version, a golf r 2 doors, with manual gear box is a dream car for me.
temperature of what ? showing UP?
Gearbox, Oil, Coolant from top to bottom. (Coolant is pegged to 90 until it's a lot higher; a VW thing.)
Anyone know why the BMW flashed him in the start of the lap?
Thats not the i8, Misha! besided that, you never dissapoint!
I would like to see an MK6 Fiesta ST on the channel.
i wass always saying buttons are the best touchscreens in cars are ussless and yes in wv you cant deactivate the esc completly it sucks and all of these elektronics in the car that always anoy you while driving i dont like new cars at all
Any MK4 Focus ST videos in the works?
Last generation? Or will there be a new R in the future?
I think there will be a MK9 R, but PHEV assisted
@@RyeRyeLThe 8th generation will be that last Golf. VW announced, that they will retire the Golf platform in 2027 completely. In 2024 the facelift will be available on the market and that's the last Golf you can buy.
Danger to the manifold error, You know, stuf like that...😄
What would you prefer Golf R GTI or Civic Type R?
Let me think.🤔
type r
Damn you sent it! My car is governed at 151mph. (244kmph)Took it up that fast only once on the highway. Pulled with a newer 5.0 full of people on the highway from 75 to 150 before we had to slow down. Door to door all the way to 145 then he pulled a half car length almost gapped me, but didn't, at the end. He probably hit 155 compared to my 151 is why. This is much safer and more respectable to be doing it on the track.
Always thought Cupras look MUCH better than Golf Rs. But I REALLY like the mk8
Misha, I would let you drive my MPS but I am all the way in Australia... It only has 40,000km all original. Would love to see you lap one.
I think he did one not long ago. Check the channel.
czcams.com/video/cTsTUOhqIQI/video.htmlsi=Ry06vZ0bGksF-I6x
misha where is the 208 gti?
pls
VW engineer: these mk8 haptic controls are great
Misha and owner: these mk8 haptic controls are shit
Haha the owner looked kinda pissed off after you went over the curb hard in the beginning
soft, understeer, many errors on the dash, traction control issues, brake errors, torque vector error in the carpark, stupid touch buttons, gears that choose them self. wow rush out and buy... something else. lol
Truth, the MK8 is a mess.