Let's teardown and test some GIANT vintage computer systems! From the Franklin eWaste haul!
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- čas přidán 20. 04. 2023
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This is the second batch of systems from the massive Franklin eWaste haul. These retro computer towers are absolutely MASSIVE! Let's tear them down and see if we can get them working!
That Yamaha card is a testament to the fact that when audio is good, it stays good forever.
"eardum abuse" earned a thumbs up and subscription! That audio card and expansion module are still worth quite a bit of money.
And that caddy optical drive as well, it could probably go for over USD$100 if it still works.
Although these parts are interesting, they're not interesting enough to be spending that money on anything not modern to upgrade my technology.
Old parts should stay cheap because of how much maintenance and repair is often required from their use. Otherwise they sit there just to be looked at. Which might as well just be an empty shell at that point.
Old parts are often scalped for nostalgia. You can find tons of them still, especially these ones in particular. They aren't that old.
Man this guy is cool.
Love the old hardware and the overall chill vibe. I can't imagine the amount of time that was spent on these recent videos.
Maybe small amount, since it was made by AI and the guy is a deepfake. Everybody terrified here?
Your voice is clear, not over the top, and perfect for this content. I’m subscribed now for sure. Can’t wait to see more!
Thanks!
Mike is a great guy, love the mix of nerdy and coolness he have. If we lived side by side i can imagine to be best friends!
When I noticed you only have 4k subscribers, I couldn't believe it. I love your content and I love seeing these old PCs come to life! You are preserving history!
I can't even believe it myself! I thought it would take at least a year to get here. So glad to see there are so many people like me who appreciate systems like these!
Alin from Sweden?
@@HighwayHunkie nah im romanian
@@alin3836 yes the retro friend i got from sweden is romanian too hehe
@@miketech1024 I can't even believe it myself! i Thought that your cases would be tall like the wall, the Thumbnial was a little bit phishy to make people think that this would be a massive cases but there just normal That is like scaming people and that sould go against Google's CZcams policy don'tcha know.
Yamaha DS2416+Yamaha AX44, great find.
It is still some very capable hardware even by today's standards!
I've got a Pentium MMX 233Mhz behind me & one of my childhood systems was a Pentium III at 866Mhz running Windows 98 with 128MB of RAM. It's nice to see someone doing clips on 90's systems in 2023!
Mike, I already thought you were cool as hell, and then you had to bust out the electric guitar and shred...
And now you're on a whole new level of Awesome!
Loving your channel, bud. Keep up the amazing work. It's been so fun watching you rip into that computer lot you bought!
Thank you so much!
Noiseless audio input is so rare. what a gem.
This sound card won my heart instantly upon seeing that! Noise is something I’ve always struggled with in PC recording.
@@miketech1024 Okay... my friend .. before destroy by open a HDD like that _(witch it looks it was mechanically fine by the way)_...... you need to clean his power contacts at the least.. _(that behavior is from an HDD that is not getting the enough juice to properly start running you know)_.... you need to see if it is getting the proper voltage in the board.... or some bad cap is pulling down the voltage in it.... or simple oxidation in the contacts of the connector are maybe loosing half the voltage right there.. or a bad or broken solder join............... remove the board from de HDD... clean it... inspect it you see some bad component??.......... veeeeery common... is the silicon thermal pads discomposing shorting thing with the nasty liquid they lose when discompose........... is contact in the board also... that connect the board whit the engine coils inside... they needs to be clean and deoxid...... is one or more terminal with many springs contacts that connect to the heads and to the arm coils.... all those needs to be clean and dioxide also.... _(this goes for modern drive too.. some times an HDD said that it have bad sector because is not getting in the heads the proper voltage because those spring contacts are dirty or oxidized.. is the first thing to do when a HDD show bad sectors clean all his contacts)_ ........... with a thermal camera.. you should see if it is any component in the board that look to be overheating/shorting by most probably some bad cap that needs to be replace... etc... etc..
You're brave to be wearing a nice watch when you're poking around in PC cases, I've scratched the heck out of far too many watches on janky pc cases over the years! 🤭 Thanks for another interesting video Mike!
Thanks! The stainless steel does get scratched sometimes, but it's easy to polish. It does have the sapphire display which is incredibly scratch-resistant. Had my sapphire Series 0 Apple Watch since launch day all the way up until last year. The display was still absolutely flawless!
But why the rainbow brigade?
@@goodecheeseburgers6320 But what could ever be wrong with having a wallpaper designed by mother nature herself? It looks quite nice! Whatever you choose to interpret from a rainbow is entirely up to you... I just think they look pretty 🌈
@@goodecheeseburgers6320Why not? Nothing wrong with colors.
@@goodecheeseburgers6320Found the snowflake who ironically calls others a snowflake 😂
There is some wonderful old tech in those three towers. The Yamaha card must have been quite an investment at the time. What a find! I thoroughly enjoyed this video. Keep up the great work on the channel Mike
Thanks!
Yeap.
Maybe, it's would be a cool idea to combine 2&3 towers,creating some powerful beast.
My co-worker did the design for the Yamaha AX88 (8-channel analog I/O) which plugged into the DS2416. These survived with software support into the 2000/XP era, and I think could do 8 channel simultaneous record, 16 channel simultaneous playback, and had built-in DSP effects. I don't know if anybody is pining for "vintage digital" systems, but this definitely occupies a developmental niche in digital audio workstations.
@@poofygoof People DO pine for vintage DAW equipment. Stuff keeps its value years later.
_"I AM MY OWN WARANTY"_ - I don't silk screen it on a shirt, I have it embroidered.
‘No spinny’ made me laugh. I will rename a few laptops of mine as ‘no boot uppy’ and ‘hard drive corrupty’
I have the same baby AT tower that you put next to it! Nice vintage towers!
"Oh no my warranty" said with an immense amount of sarcasm caused me to spit out a mouth full of coffee. 😂 Thanks for the great videos!
The funny thing is that those stickers have actually been illegal for several decade now. Manufacturers put them on devices anyway until the feds finally sent a warning to them a few years ago.
I'm gonna watch every single of your system reveal videos with delight !
I'm so jelouse of that treasure trove you found ! Power to you !
Thank you for showing us your little new babies !
Thanks!
That guitar track was so clean. Love it!
I’ve been working on a g4 and two g5 power mac towers the past few days. Fun to keep old systems running!
Nice! I two G4s currently awaiting some love. Looking for a third one so I can make a complete video on Macs!
How are you man, I discovered your channel only a couple or few weeks ago. You really love beige machine and it shows. I can't help but smile when you are almost stimming out with the excitement of old hardware. Very cool and keep going with the channel, I think it'll do very well.
Thanks so much! I first became aware of computers and technology back in the beige era. These machines are very special to me! They take me right back to my childhood. 😊
@@miketech1024 I'm a bit older so my childhood memories are C64 and Amigas but as a young adult I was early onto Linux in the 90s and had slot one machines so this time period is also special to me. I had a dual slot one celeron with the drill mod for SMP, that was a nice machine. 2 x 300a's at 450mhz and some 4.5 and 9 gig UW scsis (and gravis ultrasound)
12:07 « Oh no, my warranty ! »
_Proceeds to slash the warranty sticker anyway_ 😂
Those Fujitsu hard drives were the absolute WORST! We built those AOpen systems back in the late 90's/2000's and the amount of those Fujitsu drives that failed was crazy! And I remember Maxtors often having bad drive bearings; they squealed so loud. I had one that was so ear piercing you couldn't sit beside it... but it ran fine for quite a while in a server hidden in a closet, lol! Always nice to see these AOpen systems! Thanks!
Had a 20GB one fail one me, It later turned out it was the fire retardant used by Cirrus Logic inside the controller chips that caused shorts whenever the drive heated up sufficiently. So if you drive failed, you simply kept it going by putting the entire thing in a fridge and copying your data to a better drive. Luckily Fujitsu soon after discontinued the use of those controllers.
yeah those maxtors... ugh.. actually only had one of those fujitsu drives come around at one point, oddly enough it still works.
@@neelsmostert Haha, I've done that freezer trick a few times. Didn't know about the fire retardant, that's pretty cool to know!
I was honestly shocked to see that it actually worked and passed a surface scan! I took an image of it immediately after shooting the video.
I heated my bedroom with a full height Maxtor SCSI hard drive back in the early 90s. Unfortunately it also sounded like a jet engine. I also had a smaller full height Seagate in there, but it had a stiction problem, so I had to keep a hammer nearby for when I needed to power cycle.
Nothing like some great content on this Friday morning! Thanks for the awesome video and keep up the great work!
Thanks so much!
I love your videos. Best retro chanel
I like watching your movies. Greetings from Poland . Lubię oglądać Pana filmy . Pozdrawiam z Polski .👍🤓
That third one, the InWin case. I got one from Fingerhut 23 years ago. Had win 98. I like that case so much , a micro. I built my first puter from the ground up so I had a matching set on either side of the monitor. 98 & xp fun times. years later a did another InWin case (black) for my wife. Oh! and the speaks on the Fingerhut identical to the ones you have. The Fingerhut was branded ProTec. Damn, now I feel old, Ha!
Wow Fingerhut… That’s a name I haven’t thought of in decades! Think I felt the dust get knocked off of some brain cells. 🤣
Your vídeos bring me fondly memories of a happier, easier time in life.
That was so therapeutic. great video
Ive always loved these old full tower cases. FYI those on those old anodized coolers you can gain a good bit of performance by lapping them where they touch the cpu die, i would always go from 400 to 2000 grit sandpaper then burnish with a cotton polishing pad and red compound, used to do that on all of those to get a little more cooling.
Another Superb Video, love the guitar part ! also those little computer speakers in the background, literally everyone back in the mid-late 90s had those !!
Thanks! Yeah I had these exact speakers back in the day. I was using them to monitor the guitar effects pedal output. They actually sound pretty good for such cheap and ubiquitous speakers!
JUSTr speakers..... rated 100watts PMPO..... powered by a 9v 500mA DC brick! 🤣
@@NJRoadfan 🤣Specs so good, you'd think they came from a white van speaker scam lol
@@tony--james We did sell at least a van's worth!
The sound card is a creative labs Ensonique card. Creative acquired Ensonique and then rebranded the Ensonique chips to reflect the new name. Althoug known as a Sound Blaster Ensonique, it has no Sound Blaster DNA in it.
I think it was Ensoniq who developed the EMU10K1 in the Sound Blaster Live cards around the time Creative bought them out.
Ensoniq also made synthesizers but that all stopped after the Creative acquisition.
Ahh, so that's why Knoppix identified it as an Esoniq card!
Creative rebranded the Ensoniq AudioPCI line of soundcards after buying them out. The EMU10K1 is 100% a Creative developed chip. They bought out Ensoniq for their then-patented DOS Sound Blaster emulation drivers, along with their extensive OEM business.
That looked like an Abit IT5H board in the Pentium MMX 233. That was the first motherboard with software settings for the multiplier and FSB. And a very good performing HX-based board too.
ABit AB-IT5H, Pentium MMX 233, 64 MB RAM, S3 Virge 325, Realtek RTL8029AS
Soltek SL-67B, Pentium II 450, 256 MB RAM, Trident TGUI9680-1, Yamaha DS2416, Adaptec AHA-2940W SCSI card
Supermicro P6SBA, Pentium III 850, 384 MB RAM, nVidia Geforce 4 MX 420, Creative Labs AudioPCI, Promise Ultra66 IDE controller, 3Com 3C905C-TXM, SIIG Firewire Card, Lucent ISA Dialup Modem
The floppy on that last system sounded nice and crunchy.
My favorite!
Very cool equipment, I love it. 👑
9:18 the birth of everyone's favorite noise maker.
Love your videos you always seem to cheer me up
Watched all the video with pleasure, a fine video again. Good stuff indeed there: HX chipset mb, caddy drive, Yamaha soundcard, and more! Great job, looking for the next one!
Thanks!
Part of me wanted to put my new home nas in big ass beige box... Keep showing us this score. its fun to see.
Well, this was the first time I've seen anyone glad to find a Geforce MX card.
Great video! Reminds me of the days I’d be chatting on Yahoo and get an IM from you to either boot or check on your server in your room. All the videos you make bring back so many memories! I love them! Looking forward to more!!
Computer repair interrupted by some impromptu shredding, love it 😆
"I can remember CD burners being pretty exotic in 1997". You weren't even alive yet in 1997 😂😂😂 You still get a sub and a like for bringing back the good memories of the hardware I used to work on a lifetime ago 😊
LOL I was only 9 years old, but very much alive. Been immensely fascinated with tech since the day I started kindergarten and experienced the Apple II (yeah, Philly public schools were quite behind). Started learning everything I possibly could about systems from that moment on. They’re hard to see, but I promise there are some grey hairs in that beard! 🤣
I’m really enjoying your videos.
Thanks!!
Oh, the nostalgia at seeing the second computer with the harmonica-style P2. The case is made by Aopen, called the HX08 and it was the bees knees for big-tower cases back in the late 90s and early 2Ks. I've owned two or three of them. Super-wellbuilt and very moddable. Usually they came with rotating feet but yours seem to be missing.
That last one is the In-Win Q500. Still have one, and its little brother, the A500. Solid cases, first ATX ones I ever picked up. The sliding motherboard tray design is the best. The Q500 actually shipped with two options for the base, fold-out feet (as it was very narrow compared to its height), and caster wheels (yea, long before apple "innovated" that).
And today, I'm rocking the full-tower Cooler Master Storm Trooper, which only barely rivals the Q500 for drive mounting options and space.
Hahaha! Yeah you weren't kidding when you said you had an SG. That system would have been my dream computer back then.
I love this guitar, even though it's a cheap Epiphone. I guarantee the air compressor I traded for it 13 years ago is in the garbage by now, but this instrument continues to bring me joy to this day! One day I'll get an actual Gibson SG if I ever get serious about playing.
OMG that second case!!! I had that case - bays for days and a slide out motherboard tray!! The first computer I ever built from scratch! Built like a tank and weighed about as much as one - skinny teenage me could barely carry that thing around! Pretty sure it had feet you could move out to help stabilize it. Had an ATI All-in-Wonder and eventually a pair of Voodoo cards in it (I think, it's been a while). Played so much Half-Life and Quake and so many other games on it. Bringing back all the feels!
Thanks to this channel I realized I used to have an Inwin A500 case for my Celeron 300A (OC'ed to 450 of course!) system. Really wish I had kept it...I didn't even get rid of it until a few years ago. All that's left is a PowerMan PSU, a 3.25 floppy drive, and two Voodoo 2 cards.
Oh man! Good with computers and guitars?! Impressive!
Definitely much better with the computers. 🙂
This was amazing. Thank you.
Very much enjoying all of this new content. Keep them coming! You're channel is getting big fast and you deserve for it to get so much bigger!
very cool systems. i really like your method in these videos, great attention to detail and i love seeing these old rigs get their moment to shine.
Wow that audio pc is right up my street! I would have loved to have owned that machine back in early 2000. Thank you for doing a video about it :)
Thanks! I’m so glad to have found this system. The retro audio rig is most-definitely getting built!
I think I still have that very same audio setup as that second computer (it was in some parts machine I got years ago).
Love your channel - worked with many of these machines in the past...
My old 386 back in the early 90s actually had this "baby" PC case... the memories
Also... I got to say... that thumbnail is gold. Tiny Mike vs. the Giant Beige Computer Towers.
This is the absolute pinnacle of my graphics design capabilities! 🤣🤣
@@miketech1024 That made me LOL. With all your skill at pulling computers apart, this is hilarious to admit.
Well you got the fastest Socket 7 P1 and fastest P2. Both great finds in themselves but to get them both in one haul is excellent!
Nothing like a bit of Mike to cheer me up after a rough day 😄 Would be nice to have a *bit* more Mike and a bit less beige plastic, but at least we get a little on-camera intro/outro 😉
That would require me to keep the garage clean LOL.
I second that. The PCs aren't the only eye candy.
@@miketech1024 hehehe, nobody's looking at the garage, Mike 🤣 😉
His videos are very relaxing and he's such a cutie, I'd love to see more of him too
That audio PC is so cool. Mucho Dinero when that was new probably.
I imagine so considering how capable this Yamaha hardware still is to this day!
@MikeTech thousands in software too! 🫠
Watched every min, good stuff.
Turns last computer on... power for entire neighborhood starts flash and dim. Neighbors stare in horror at dimming lights as though apocalypse was nigh.
Wait 'til they see me power on that SGI Indigo² 🤣
27:22 - That case is what right now is housing my home server's hardware, since about 2012 when I found it at the scrapyard. I just love the look of it.
Anyway, that Yamaha DSP card was a serious piece of kit back then and it costed a hefty amount of money.
Really good content my dude. Pleasure to watch
Thanks!!
Another great video! Dang those towers are huge, and have a lot newer parts inside than I would have thought from the front. So glad each machine is getting some time and love in the spotlight. Also appreciate how you even try to get the fans tuned up, so many retro guys just rip out old fans to stuff in modern noctua fans or similar for more "quiet"
Thanks!!
Very cool channel man! Love seeing old computer stuff like this
Thanks!
Congrats on all the new Patreon supporters by the way! Hope you'll continue to get many more to help fund this expensive habit 😄
Come on guys, let's get him to the point where the Patreon supporters scroll down the screen for several seconds 😄 Show the channel some love and think of all the good karma that will come your way! ❤️
the last tower, reminds me, of my local photo store, he has a similar tower standing, with all kinds drives installed and yes he do still accept 3,5 disk
Just found your channel and subscribed, great video and huge collection of retro pc keep up the good work!
Love watching you rip the computers you find! You bring memories back from the pentium era
Loved the guitar solo too! Good job 💪
Thanks!
Yesterday, I was building my Windows 98 PC, you uploaded this video! Its a miracle! Also sweet guitar, I play bass and I really dig your epiphone.
Nice! What kind of bass do you have?
@@miketech1024 Ibanez Mikro with a Fender Rumble 15 amp. Just starting out.
@@uptoptem3392 It’s awesome that you’ve started playing at such a young age! So many of the best players started young. When you learn things while your brain is still developing, it becomes second-nature. This is especially true for things like musical abilities. Keep at it!
@@miketech1024 Thanks!
That CD drive uses a permanent magnet motor, it could have lost it magnetism, try magnetizing the spindle with an old hard drive magnet while getting it to run. The electricity should magnetize the rest of the way.
I'll definitely give that a try. Thanks!
Brings back memories. My first PC had a 233 MMX Pentium with 64 MB of EDO RAM. At the time I owned it, in 1997 I wanted to max out the memory, BUT to put in 128 MB of matching EDO RAM the cost was prohibitive at 1400 dollars, so I suffered with a memory deprived system that could barely run Windows 2000 - I used the system for a few years as an Internet gateway and as a server for program and file storage.
These are all great videos - I started taking PCs apart and putting them back together with my family's first machine back in '97: a Pentium 200 w/ MMX. So much of this brings back memories. I'm curious how you're storing all this hardware - a tour of your system in place and future plans would be cool to see. I appreciate how methodical you are with checking each component out. That P3 system I suspect was a rebuild into an older case. That case screams 1995 - 1997 but those internals like the GeForce MX420 didn't come out until 2002.
I like your channel, you don't waste much time on silly games and the channel is nice and technical.
Pentium II and Trident TGUI9680-1 is surely a interesting and underrated combination
Great video! There was a time when I always went for a full tower case. I didn't want a mini tower taking up desk space, but I didn't want to have to reach down to the floor to put in a floppy disk or CD either. And they look so impressive! Can't say I ever filled mine up though.
You will need to lock the hard drive in to establish power to that hard drive. Good thing it was there. I was working at Lucent when that modem came out. Those were actually better to have as the onboard chip did the work. Unlike the later early 2000s modem had a smaller chip relying more on the cpu power.
Thanks for the info! I was confused as to why the drive didn't at least spin up in the bay.
In 1997, we often had SCSI cd-burner, the SCSI bus helped with the lack of power of the cpu, and quite slow IDE bus.
Awesome computers and some guitar play that made my night!!
Some really old systems. Kewl to see that they work.
That removable harddrive looks like a SCSI drive..
The caddy connector does look very SCSI, so I was surprised to see the enclosure connected via IDE.
Probably the same connector but definitely not SCSI. That was pretty common on those caddy's to use a connector like that and combine the IDE and power signals into a single connector.
I love those old machines. I had a few in my days….😅
that DVD drive in the pentium 3 did NOT like being complimented, every time you complimented it it had a problem! LOL!
I'm equally in awe about that noise floor. I wonder if it can even be replicated with commonplace opamps and ADCs that don't cost like $1232 each. I will definitely try.
I was absolutely shocked that this level of noise was even possible with PC recording. That was the biggest sticking point for me with any PC recording.
Back in the day, I used to have 1 PC with 2 removable HDD's one for me and one for the kids.
I'm new to this channel & i like this kind of content, so i subscribed !
You’re basically the Steve1989 of vintage PCs. I’m just waiting for “Nice hiss” during a smoke test.
The ever-elusive smoke show may finally come in the next video!
I LOVED those inwin full towers. I used those cases for so long, including the similar mid towers by them.
Love these kinda videos! I am very curious about what gems you will further find in all these machines. So in future i will be first liking, and then watching. Cheers and greetings from Germany
Thanks!
@@miketech1024 i will be very curoius about this big heavy NCR PC8, i have that one too, fully equipped 286 with 2x 60MB MFM drives, but..... i never fired it up because i am afraid of tantalum fails. hehe
I used to have one of those Inwin Tower cases! It was so well made, built like a tank with thick sheet steel, and clever design.
It’s definitely made of some thick steel. Thing is heavy!
@@miketech1024 IIRC, it used 1.25mm thick steel. That model was very popular, and it was nicknamed "The Coffin". Because the front face design resembles the curves of old Chinese coffins. :-D
such an underrated channel. keep up the good work!
Thanks!
I miss my full tower case from 1998. It was HUGE!!! Room for lots of stuff, no cable problems.
another awesome video ! Keep it up !
Thanks!
5k subs inbound.
..Keep growing brother
I would take the biggest one and make a huge sleeper PC plenty of room for fans and a Radiator.
Whoa,bro,56k ISA MODEM !!!!
This is more , than awesome,this is almost incredible!!!!!
I'm toying with the idea of starting a REAL dial-up BBS or something, just to put these old modems to work!
@@miketech1024 Interesting idea.
That HX08 brings back memories. The Enlight itself is a beast as well.
Additionally to my last comment, I've been really enjoying your content and I'd love to follow you on other social media platforms if you're comfortable sharing them. It's always great to stay updated and support creators like you. Keep up the fantastic work!
I suppose I should get around to creating some accounts on other platforms. Thanks!
Really good pieces of hardware, i had a pc with a athlon and windows 95 on my childhood