Parents Won't Let Dr. Manning Treat Their Kid | Chicago Med
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- čas přidán 17. 04. 2022
- Dr. Manning's actions with a recent patient lead to serious repercussions.
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To anyone wondering how it ends, Natalie was right about the little boy not having pneumonia and turns out he had an autoimmune disorder and then he got the treatment he needed. The mom dropped the charges against Natalie
Thank Goodness. Why did the parents refuse treatment for their son in the first place, though?
@Lilly B so the "stupid" doctor who figured out what was wrong with him still deserves the charges even though she was just trying to do her job and help the child?
@@iberidious1474 I know there are protocols to be followed and for good reasons, but at the end of the day, if I was this kid's parent, I would just be glad my son is alive regardless of how it happened.
@Lilly B Well, if being a doctor is so easy why don’t you do it. I’m sure you’ll never get anything wrong, ever. It’s not like the human bodies complicated or anything.
What episode was this
The most unrealistic thing on this show is how Manning never got fired. This was a pattern with her!!
There is a pattern of actions with the doctors in that hospital, its like there's no progression, they have reckless behavior and disregard, judging from all the clips doctor manning should've been fired long ago.
They all should have been fired one thing that bothered me about this show is how the doctors treat the patients
@@yasolivia8177 never the nurses. I think nurses actually do listen and respect
She should’ve been fired, yes, but have in mind that she is saving a lot but a LOT of lives. Seeing these comments makes me wonder if you all mean that she should have let them die, even if they didn’t want her to treat them. She was in the wrong, yes but if I was her I’d rather save lives which is what a doctor does and should do and go to the prison than letting them die and continue letting people die in front of me. They will thank you for your actions someday.
Every fucking time
Their son coughed up blood and they want to take him home. The worst part is there is parents out there that do this kind of thing and ik Dr Manning was in the wrong but like I would want my child to get proper medical attention if I were them
They have a right. They can sign a waiver. Dr Manning should have call child protection in real life in this case.
Yeah you ask for another doctor you don't neglect the child.
thing that pisses me off is how parents dont trust doctors, like literally, stop listening to random people on facebook and listen to someone who could save your childs life. doctors have studied this for decades and they know what their doing. then their kid dies and they sue the hospital for not doing their jobs, i just cant, LOL
Doctors are not always right though, they make misstakes and sometimes those misstakes can kill you, I have several family members who got a wrong diagnoses.
@@MerimaTropoja That is true, Doctors are humans and humans make mistakes.
In the vast majority of cases though, doctors treat their patients to the best of their abilities.. Abilities that they achieved during years of extensive training under strict control and supervision. So I guess, even though mistakes happen from time to time, you are way better off trusting your doctor than a facebook or google research..
@@MerimaTropoja Yeah they make mistakes. But they are more trained than a person on the internet telling you to do some home remedy whatsoever that will miraculously save you or smth. So still, despite them doing mistakes like any human does, they are still the better option and should be trusted as they do whatever they do to the best of their abilities.
@@MerimaTropoja true, they're definitely a higher chance of accuracy than a Facebook post so though
same
In the real world, if you are willing to remove your child from a hospital when they are coughing up blood and spiking a fever then you should not have custody of said child let alone be allowed to make medical decisions for them. Just because the law might stand with parents on this doesn’t make it right when they would be willing to risk their child’s life because of a power struggle with a doctor who clearly knows better than they do.
Legally, the guardians have to make medical decisions for anyone under the age of 18. I agree, it shouldn’t be like that. But most of the time,. They are not matured enough.
Yes the hospital would step in. However as correct as doctor Mannings medical advice is she would have been fired years ago in real life.
There is a church whose adherents call themselves “Christian Scientists”. They believe in the power of prayer and only take vaccines where it is a legal requirement, they are allowed to set and cast broken bones and can have basic dental and optometry.
It started in 1878 with its founder and 26 followers and spread rapidly in the western world, including parts of Europe, but since 1990, membership numbers have plummeted from 200,000+, down to ~100,000 in 1990 and by 2002 had declined to less than 50,000.
One of my favourite shows I’ve discovered since living in the U.K. (I’m 🇨🇦 and moved here 11 years ago at 28) is “Call the Midwife” and they did an episode where it was discovered the infant had osteogenesis imperfecta, or brittle bone disease. The parents were targeted by child protective services for the child having broken his collarbone (at first it was assumed it was broken during birth), but he quickly fractured his femur and no explanation could be given by the parents. Sister Julienne came to do a regular postpartum check on the infant after his collarbone fracture and the neighbours, the husband and anyone within earshot were complaining about the baby screaming and never quieting, and Sister Julienne was shocked to discover the parents wouldn’t administer paracetamol/Tylenol to ease his pain And sister Julienne managed to convince the mother to let her administer the drugs because she wasn’t a member of their church. Once the child was removed from their care, the foster mother brought the baby into the doctor because he was crying In pain again and upon inspection he was found to have spontaneously broken a vertebrae in his back, which led to the diagnosis of osteogenesis imperfecta, and absolved the parents of any wrongdoing.
A friend of mine became a GP, and she has two families in her practice who are Christian Scientists. As their dogma hasn’t changed since its inception in 1878, the level of care that can be provided for medical treatments under their tenets and beliefs is so archaic and limited that it’s almost cruel by nature to let people suffer and rely on prayer and has been the focus of some cases like the one in this video where child protective services have been called and lawsuits have ensued.
Just because you’re a parent, and may or may not have beliefs that restrict your confidence in modern medical practices, doesn’t make you qualified to make important decisions and decide to eschew the treatment offered by someone you may not “like” or like what they have to say and therefore deny care or investigations into the root cause of a child’s illness. Ability to reproduce doesn’t give you an increased intelligence or ability to understand and make these important decisions, which is why there are safeguards in place when parents refusing care or diagnostic procedures is detrimental to the child, but it’s never easy!
Except that doctors definitely don’t always know better. I wouldn’t be sitting here today if my doctors were allowed to purse their desired course of treatment on me.
I know she has good intentions but honestly she needed to finally get some repercussions for her actions. She never learnt from her previous behaviour but also felt like she had the right to judge others :/
So she should let the child die?
True she should face consequences but in this case i don't blame her
The parents are complete assholes who are disregarding their son's serious medical issue just because they don't believe in antibiotics which is stupid
It would have taken me my full strength not to roll my eyes on them every 5 min
The child was literally coughing blood while the parents wanted him DISCHARGED
She did what she thought was right to save that kid and give him treatment
Who cares if she saves lifes?
@@lanastarman2664 yes and who cares if you lose your medical license.
y'all are crazy
The most unrealistic part of this episode is that the Parents aren’t charged with Child endangerment.
It's not unrealistic sadly, just ask Meghan McCann's parents.
parents like that should have social services called on them for risking the health and safety of their child, the fact that a doctor who cares about the kid is more in chance of being the one arrested for doing the right thing is stupid
Legal stuff.
Than I wondering why they take him to the hospital anyway
I know we're all talking about Dr Manning and her actions, but the kid is so cute and so well behaved when all these adults screaming around him! 😄
True
ofc you guys are thinking about kids you pedos
Can't US doctors overrule parental rights if children's life is in danger? Like in some countries there are procedures to quickly (in hours) termoporally cancel parental rights if they don't agree to life saving treatment to their children (refusing blood transfusion for religious reasons, antibiotics etc). And doctors can't be prosecuted for life saving procedured on kid even if parent's are not present or don't agree.
Would need a court order which is what they were waiting for. Without the court order, the parents still have the executive decision
Only CPS can do that, Mannings only rational option was to tell Goodwin to call CPS so they can revote the parental rights and take him on as a ward of the state to be treated as the doctors see fit.
In my country the well being of the manor is on top of anyones parental rights, freedom or whatever
**Kid coughs up blood**
Parents: Were taking him home!
Dr. Manning reminds me of my Pathology professor who also had a OB/GYN diploma, she was a pathologist by day and a Gynecologist by night. My professor even looks and behaves like Dr. Manning, Such care and power and confidence.
People criticise Manning's character when it comes to her conduct in cases with children, but as someone who watches true crime content a lot... countless children would probably have been saved if someone like her were involved. Dependent adults, too. And saved from a HORRIFIC death. Think Victoria Climbié (as well as too many like her).
Too bad she is a TERRIBLE doctor
Too bad these sick kids always have terrible guardians rejecting treatment one way or another
She should be social worker then.
@@kelseyswanepoel7056 a social worker with that attitude at times? hmmm i doubt it
@@beansheeran7322 no is she a great doctor she saved lots of lives ok I love her
A baby is coughing blood in a hospital and his parents want him discharged? Can people really be this delusional??? 😵💫
Yes, very very yes.
I think is to take him to other hospital?
Can and have been, hundreds of children have died to the alternative medicine scam industries. Everything from healing crystals to aromatherapy.
The parents have really pissed me off afre they wanting there son dead if he isnt treated he could die HORRID PARENTS
This is a great example of ethical issues seen in real life.
it annoys me when parents think they understand more then fully trained doctors, like theyre literally killing their kids when they do that
But they spent at least a dozen hours looking things up on the internet. Surely that makes them experts on medicine or launching a rocket into space?
Something in me tells me if they did take the kid home and he dies at home. The parents would sue the hospital and make up some stories of how they refused to treat him. Just my hunch
This is why hospitals document absolutely everything. Every treatment, every test, every syringe gets charted to cover the hospital and doctor's asses in such an occasion
I side with the hospital administrator here. Wether the parents are right or wrong, they have power of attorney and make the decisions. When you go to the hospital it's your right to accept of refuse treatment. As doctor it's not your obligation to cure or treat, but first respect patient's autonomy and wishes... and so if the patient can't make decisions and a third party makes them. Manning and Halstead have very serious god complex issues that render them dangerous for any decision making wish of a patient. Manning herself tried to loclk up a father who listened to his 9 year old son claiming he didn't anymore chemotherapy. Awful doctors. In real life I don't think they'd keep their license for long
it's saving a life of a child. you just want to let the child suffer and die?
I agree with you but under Hippocratic Oath they are obliged to save lives regardless if parents/patients are right or wrong.
As parents they’re also legally responsible to provide their child with medical care, if they took their child home when he is obviously very unwell and he died they could be charged with neglect. They don’t have the medical training or knowledge to override a doctors medical judgement that their child requires hospitalisation or diagnostic testing.
@@lazarslavkovic-raco6309 doctors very often ignore the hippocratic oath, so I don't agree with the assumption that they're obliged to save lives
@@TomAS-wm5mn no, I want doctors to respect patient autonomy, so tomorrow doctors won't hijack decision making power from patients
Ive never seen the show, from all the clips I’ve seen, the minute she sees a child, she loses her mind. What is her deal?
She has a kid so she goes all crazy mama on them.
Manning is the only character I actively dislike, she's so confrontational and self righteous. She's almost like house but just way more unlikeable
i hate how she’s became in the later seasons, in the beginning she was a lot more kind and considerate
House is at least funny
I agree. Can't stand her and bending rules when she doesn't get her way and the hospital always protecting her. I would have my loved one removed from her care and transferred to another hospital in no time.
So.... You'd rather let the child die cuz of the parents neglect?
@@imtootired7623 kinda late but she was technically “experimenting” treatments on the the kid because she didn’t know what the kid had, that’s why the parents wanted to remove him from the hospital, using multiple medications and different ones in that short period of time fucks up your organs. She basically got lucky with the treatment (I think it was pneumonia) otherwise she might have killed the kid if she had kept with the switching of treatments she was doing.
I believe house is the one show where they show those board/consult talks doctors do before treating a patient.
2:27 SO CUTE AWWW
I’m sorry but the parents should be locked in jail for refusing treatment of their child, ok Iost my parents because of it and I was adopted as one of the results of them being refused treatment
While she might act a little unprofessionally, at least she saves her patients lives. I find that more respectable (yes, there were moments in which I disagreed with her).
I need a part 2 😭
That’s horrible parents won’t let him get treated why bother bringing him to the hospital then
I have to say there is something strangely satisfying about Dr Manning finally getting what she deserves, sadly a little boy is caught in the crossfire (even if the show is fake)
He was coughing up blood ??
One of the reasons why Doctors are forced to let people die because of such things.
Such a precious boy
It doesn't matter if your intentions are good
You can't just break the rules everytime you thing something is right for someone
Also, if they were unconfortable with doctor manning, could't they have just take out manning from the case and put someone else in charge?
It really goes to show that which right matters more the right to life or the right to consent over your child
Scratch the last part I really should’ve said right to raise your children how you see fit
I like Doctor Manning.
She's always willing to do the right thing.
Except it wasn’t the right thing
If this was House, He would have gone to the parents with a number to a child coffin maker
plz do a part 2
Has Manning ever gotten it wrong to the point a patient died? Because the longer she cuts it this close and gets it right, the more emboldened the deontologists get with their "duty justifies the means". And it makes it less compelling in presenting ethical dilemmas.
Deontology works only for winners and the sanctimonious. The moment you lose it devolves into excuses.
Ere 3
At least once. She needed a consult from Dr Rhodes on a patient. Turned out the patient needed heart surgery. The patient became emotional, so she advised against the heart surgery right in front of Dr Rhodes and advised on alternative treatment that ended up killing the patient.
They say that the worst part of being a doctor is loosing a patient, or the pressure, but I swear, I genuinely believe that constantly dealing with the BS of family members might be worse
My first thought after reading the titles, “Hmm! Smart parents.”
In real life yes MANNING would be fired but the parents would soon lose their child to child services as they put his health in danger and left him at serious risk
Part 2, please 😫
Agreed
I love Chicago med and fire videos!
Are u disrespecting pd wow bro I can’t believe you😡
Lol
@@Sev860 Sorry forgot that lol
do yu know what eps this is?
I need part 2
They really should be on Netflix
Sharon should have stepped in and taken her off the case and given the boy to someone more senior. The parents didn't trust her anymore and so it was not in the child's interest to continue
i want to watch full videos, please advice
Doctor House would’ve absolutely obliterated those parents.
Yes like, I imagine he saying:
Okay, you hate me, I really KNOW WHY and don't care... If you want take the boy out here, okay.
Buuuut, here is your choice:
Take the boy, he die at home coughing blood and you live with this grief knowing it's yours and only yours fault.
Or you leave he be treated and he survive and discharged as soon as possible.
*PS: my English can get a little weird
**I know this is fake**
BUT... WHAT KIND OF IDIOT WOULD NOT LISTEN TO THE DOCTOR WHILE YOUR CHILD IS COUGHING UP BLOOD?!?!
I wasn’t a fan of dr manning but I like will and yes he made mistakes especially with that lady with cancer but he actually learned from them and now I like him.
I can't respect the character. Mans a simp
Where's the next clip? :(
ITS FINALLY ON NETFLIX YALL
oh my
Where can i see all full episodes
Dr meaning need to help this kid not jail time at all. The parents is confused treatment to do test on the boy he is so sick they need to figure out what is happened. Dr meaning was right about.
"A major lawsuit"? - that is a nice way of putting it..
Administering any treatment to a child, that their parents did not agree to, without a court order is assault. They could sue her and the hospital for millions of dollars and she would definitely lose her license.
Hence the charge of medical assault
You've got some crazy nuts system over there in the US.
I know this show is completely unrealistic anyways but it’s incredibly frustrating to see an arrogant, self-righteous and judgmental character like Dr. Manning act so unprofessionally time and time again while facing no repercussions or consequences for her actions 🙄
Kinda like Dr. House!?
Tbh, I'd be more concerned about the literal child abuse this show is trying to normalize.
Omggg the baby is so cute 💖
I’m not a doctor but I work in child care. It shocks me that some parents won’t even vaccinate their children. It’s so irresponsible parents need to stop looking at crazy articles online or people who say their herbal therapist’s or whatever. If a doctor a hospital says your child is seriously sick and needs treatment you need to listen and let that professional act.
In the show they did do that before and the child had a bad reaction to the treatment that was significantly worse than the actual disease the kid was being treated for
Very nice
Your recipes are the nice one 🌚👌🏾💙💙🤣
Since when do you need a court order to treat a child
Just curious, why does this channel only upload segments of individual cases without showing the resolution, especially when the videos are titled in a way that makes it difficult to work out which ones are linked? It feels akin to those Tik Tok accounts that tell people to check their page for a part 2 to a video, only for it to be buried under absurd amounts of content, or for it to not exist at all
Well ,yeah? They want you to go Watch the show
@@agustin3622 not everyone can though for some people this is the only way they can watch it
@@ellensilvers7317 Yeah I know that, they know that too, but its like saying movies should all be available free on youtube because not everyone can pay to watch them. That's not their problem.
I fully support pirating though.
I love how sharron elps when her docters get arrested like maggie and now de natalie
What season is this?
Next part plzzz
Why do the parents take the child to the hospital if they are refusing the treatment that the hospital gives?
I remember during a measles outbreak this mother brought her little girl to the clinic. She had a fever, pneumonia and very likely measles. This child had no vaccines and was against antibiotics. I asked her, ''what is it that you want?'' Than I had to clear the clinic for a while because of the probable measles in the air.
Which episode is this.??
Can we just remove manning already?
They already did. Watch the series, she’s been out of the show since the beginning of the current season because of something she did (I am not spoiling it, go watch it).
Why should she be removed??
@@123RADIOactive what episode and season is this?
@@commenter7214
The information you require is in the video description.
Is this full episode available in Netflix?? Which season and which episode??
i just watched Dr Choi to Chief Resident
there’s such a thing called discharge against medical advice form ..
That baby reminds me so much of my baby brother cuz he’s that big
What episode is it
Please tell me the kid survived!
Am I the only one that would be like ... well if you don't want our help then go and take your kid home! Bye bye 👋🏻 you live with the loss🤷🏼♀️
AT 2:27 HES HAVING A WHOOP COUGH
Where can i watch the full episodes? I'm from India btw
What is the seasons of this screen?
If mfs don’t want treatment or doesn’t want to trust the doctors then don’t come to a hospital 🙄
Exactly that's what I was thinking they came the hospital then saying don't treat us then what do you want watching when you're dying?????
so what did he have??
Strange even in a third world country where I am from and work in the medical system, (in Fiji), there are teams of doctors who are able to provide second and third opinions and take over any case at a moments notice. Medical is and always has been a team effort. Not sure if this reflects so called advanced nation's (US) way it is done as depicted in this episode where one doctor acts like a God.
Sweet magnolia and chicago med crossover haha
I know this is fictional, and if real the child's life would be at risk, but sometimes with parents like these you just want to say go on, do what you think is best, but don't complain to me when your child dies......
A case like this really shows how much a doctor does their job because they care, so much so their risk arrest to save a life!
Ep and season pls
I wouldn't let Dr Manning treat any kid of mine. She has her own ideals and prejudices and believes that no one else can possibly be right. She's a terrible doctor.
Honestly she could have just hand him to pediatric no? Like write a really detailed notes, pages and consult another doctor. If a parent already has preconceived notion of you or already has a high wall, hand the case to someone. You will still get the same result without jeopardizing the chance of giving the child treatment, a lawsuit and yourself.
If you're not going to let dr manning treat their son then why take him to a hospital
I can't stand Manning. She's got and attitude, is confrontational, entitled, arrogant and rude. Always bending rules when she doesn't get her way and the hospital protecting her. I would have my loved one removed from her care and transferred to another hospital in no time.
Why is Dr. Manning kicked out of the Hospital?
What Woodside was this
It would have been more realistic if, rather than saying they would take the kid home, they said:
1. We don’t want the kidnapper in our sons care, get a new doctor.
2. We don’t want our son treated at this hospital, we're going to another.
Theres only 3 constants in the world, death, taxes and Dr Manning always thinking she’s in the right and moral position regardless of legality and other peoples wishes.
Their is a difference between faith and ignorance for instance one doesn’t risk life
what season and episode is this?
5x06
Where can I find full episodes?
Netflix
@@TJSPARKLE what episode is that??
@@latvianbrosgameplay1826 Season 5 Episode 6
@@juliea.3495 in Netflix till season 4 is available season 5 is not thr
@@TJSPARKLE there ain't even a single episode on my Netflix what county are you from?
Which episode is this :)
5x06
What episode is this?
5x06
Please which episode and season
Season 5 Episode 6
5:21 Yep, that’s my face too when I know I need to cut back on the simple carbs. And I don’t even get buzzed from them!
Do we get to know what happens to the boy?
I am 12 years old and I find this Interesting
This woman has more plot armour than Arya Stark.
How is manning still practicing
All I’m seeing is arguments over whether manning should keep her job, well this is all I’m gonna say, she was wrong to administer antibiotics without court approval, but at the end of the day with their child saved because of her they won’t be complaining anytime soon since their little boy could’ve died had she chosen to do differently, starting up a whole new blame game of “my child was sick and your doctors couldn’t see it!” The bigotry often found in cases like this
This is so unrealistic, doctors aren't here to play gods and force ppl to do things they don't want to do , as a doctor I explain the risks , the consequences, the benefits, then the choice is 100% yours .
@@annawild7117 and what's that ?
Most doctors I know have god complexes, ngl.
In a way, they sort of have to. They’re the ones trying to decide what is medically best for their patient (and then have to try to convince said patient to take their recommendations.)
My nursing friends are actually much more grounded than the docs. Also much more fun to go out drinking with lol
You’re the best kind of doctor. It was a doctor like you who made me feel comfortable when I was nervous about getting my baby a flu shot. Many of my family are against them and actively think they cause harm. So I was worried when they said about giving my little girl one. The doctor took the time to chat to me about it and explain the risks and benefits of the situation. She didn’t judge me for being reluctant, or push at me in a way that might have spooked me into saying no. She armed me with her medical knowledge and let me decide. My daughter got her shot and I’m grateful to the doctor who helped me help my daughter.
@@armstrongdhawan6338 That couldn't have been easy, but I'm glad you listened and the nurse explained.
Lmao they do now!