Tai Chi vs Boxing
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- Tai Chi vs Boxing. Tai Chi Chuan or Tai Ji Quan is the Grand Ultimate Fist! Like any martial art it is meant for self defense and/or fighting! But, today most practice Tai Chi for health. How does Tai Chi Stack up against Boxing??? Check out these moves.....
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Everybody's got a plan until they get punched in the mouth . - Mike Tyson
@@rafahlts3259 kala ta les
Always someone who is giving this exact comment...
Apart from Lennox ,he sticks to his plan as Mike Tyson found out .That fight broke my heart as a Tyson Fan
Right:):)!!! Especially from Mike Tyson. I guess Mr. Tai-Chi master would forget his choreography in an instant!!
Western boxing is an amazing martial art. Bruce Lee spoke very highly of it and incorporated a lot of it into Jeet Kune Do.
No one:
Me: here to learn how to waterbend
@moon_ boi I feel this heavily
Thats rough buddy
Y E S
You also watshed 107 facts about avatar the last airbender
Of sad tai chi waterbend oof
It’s easy when your opponent throws a slow punch and then stays in that position long enough for you to move and slap them.
@Rune Age Mage and that’s what everyone in the comments don’t understand
@Rune Age Mage It doesn't matter how fast you use poor technique.
Ya stupid asf this shit won’t ever work against a boxer and your not blocking a power punch with ur hands place like that and you don’t lean forward on ur punches
imagine if a boxer throws a right punch and then a left body shot, now the tai chi is effective since you slip and then parry his arm for the body shot. Just don't slap the ribs
If this was a real fight the tai chi guy wont even see the punch coming. Nobody just stands there in a fight. You dont know what the opponent will do. Even a train fighter have really hard time dodging punches coming.
I can’t believe he just gave away the secret to the dreaded death rib-slap!
If your style is actually effective, spar a boxer for a couple rounds. I need real proof.
Yep....and in a sparring match you're not supposed to go all out. So it would make for a good analysis.
He's scared and he will refuse
This guy is a known fake but a true master of any martial art would be interesting to see against a boxer
Gomp Fungly I feel you but we all know if he does it won’t be real lol 😂
It would be a cold blooded murder
The fact that he thought he was fast enough that we needed a slow mo 😂
😂😂
"Im fast AF boi"
You just ruined this whole video 😂😂😂
On god😂🤳
It was probably to show you more exact form
“Its an ‘ancient’ way.” 😂
Tai Chi is the most effective marrial art ever... for pushing people away so you have room to run. Seriously, its actually good at that lol
Tai chi is basically just shadow wrestling
You people are fucking hilarious lol
You basically look for a certain style you dont agree with, flaunt your minimal knowledge on combat IN GENERAL, then bask in the attention lol
No set style is the best. Period. Start combining shit and you’ll actually come up with something tailored FOR you.
I bet half of you can’t fight half as nicely as you talk. I aint a tai chi fighter by any means. My philosophy could not be farther away.
But I’ll take the best of anything and everything. And knock the fuck out of those who thing negativity & taunting like a child makes them strong 🤣
its a shame Jake doesn't know that kind of tai chi
Guys who know kung also know tai chi that’s where the defense come from
@@monsterkingadversity6662
While I agree, this video is just as bad in the opposite direction.
How does Tai Chi stack up against Boxing?
Tai Chi vs Boxing
Tai Chi is the ultimate martial art.
This sounds like someone out to prove something not training and it immediately gives false impressions.
Also, while it is commonly accepted that “no right move” truly exists (I.e you have to move as you would in that situation, being natural is key and there is always options) some moves are better, easier or more efficient then others.
A lot of movements in Tai Chi would (for a majority of people) be stripped away in favour of more direct and forceful moves or styles.
It’s also key to note that many such “ancient styles” have replaced an overwhelming amount of sparring with rote learning and essentially shadow boxing.
Those styles were effective mostly because the user was honed and improved through copious amounts of sparring.
"Part the horse's mane"
Umm no actually the ancient chiense grandmasters referred to that move as the "belly bitchslap", god damn amateur smh
But how do I adjust the opponent’s playback speed when I try this in a real fight?
Ahahah 😂👍🏻
You pay them
No bad arts just bad practitioners...comments trashing a martial art because you may not understand how to apply it is a sign of the ignorance of the commentator...tai chi is probably not the most practical unarmed self defense for modern times as it was created as an answer for fighting styles of its day in history but that certainly doesn’t mean that it doesn’t hold concepts and maybe even specific techniques that can be useful today...I believe thereby is a Shaolin monk whipping ass in the MMA world....tell him his art is useless
Don’t believe in this bullshido
😂😂😂
I bet the boxer wanted to laugh so HARD! hahahaha
Lmao
he must be like :
emmm should i go slower?
I think he knows how to listen, unlike kids on the internet who don't do anything worthy of their lives lol
@@irokosalei5133 I see u must support the bullshito style of martial arts that wont ever work against any boxer
@@mindax8823 Practise your grammar first, that'll make your internet boxing look better kid 😂
That “slip in” thing is a good way to catch a WICKED right
That slap on the ribs must be absolutely devastating.
Thanks for the great info! I can now deliver a WICKED backhand slap to his ribs before I get choked out!
LMAO
Thank you this guy a joke
I just don't understand how people can take him seriously but I personally know people who do 😑
Bro this shit has me DEAD ☠️🤣🤣🤣🤣
Jokes
The "Are you ok" part killed me
I was like bitch please
@@three1seven419 hahahaha😂
Followed up with, "you can take it"!
3:34 bless you! You need a tissue there?
BAHAHAHA
For all those that laugh at these beginner explanations, it might be interesting to know that Tai chi was originally only taught to those who had mastered all the other levels of kung fu. It wasn't taught to the public. It was the most advanced form of kung Fu. That slap to the solar plexus is nasty enough, but if he misses it can break a rib. And the opponent has to setup all over again. Also, beginners take much more shallow steps. Only the most advanced take deep steps and elongated forms. And btw, he did mention fast twitch muscle use, which needs to specifically developed intentionally. Most people will not get there. Especially if a little older. But even those only interested in the health aspect of tai chi will develop muscle memory and if put into a situation ... That will kick in and they will gate much better. You may, or may not recall that lateral movement in Olympic boxing was brought to the ring by the American boxing team in the 1980s , and they dominated.
Great explanation!
Partially incorrect, however I appreciate you not insulting our culture like everyone else. This 'teacher' isn't very good. However to his defense, he wasn't taught properly. Westerns have a great deal of difficulty understanding this art. This is why it, 'doesn't work'. Because they aren't really being shown what it is.
@@ErraticFaith isnt there a Chinese mma fighter going around kicking tai chi “masters” ass’s like most of them are even lasting a minute tai chi is cool and all but it doesn’t really work in modern combat sports theres a reason the military dosent use it karate works maybe even kung fu to an extent but not tai chi
@@workmailcom2442 those tai chi masters are not the real thing. They are people who have dojos who never had a real fight in their lives. The kind of tai chi effective for fighting is called tai chi chuan. It is an internal martial art that takes a lot of serious training to be useful in a fight. It is usually nit used on its own but to enhance. It is foolish to judge a martial art based n youtube videos only. If you really want to know you have to do so some research. You do know that most online content is not accurate at best. Just because something is online does not make it useful or true. Any idiot can post online stuff.
bullshit
ths looks like it would work perfectly against someone who throws a slow jab and then pauses with their arm extended.
+mightConsiderThis Now we know.
+mightConsiderThis HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHA
I burst out laughing when I saw this
Yes I always love how Kung Fu demonstrations always seem to do that. Ok now throw a punch, no not the left the right, no not to fast, now hold it there while I block and strike.
***** The tai chi guy would get his teeth kicked in if that's how he fought on the streets. Fights are never that 'clean' or co-ordinated.
Felt sorry for the boxer. Had to pretend he wouldn't be able to utterly smash this guy. Must've been tough on his ego. Fair play to him.
***** Really? You think? Great analysis, John, I hadn't ever considered that.
***** It's 'you're'. You left out an apostrophe. It's important to make sure you're using correct grammar if you're going to make incredibly simplistic statements and then call people dumbasses when they sarcastically mock you for it.
***** Don't try and backtrack, dumbo.
+John Finkel Good lord, you're really insecure, aren't you? I get it, brother, you couldn't read that my very sarcastic response to you was, in fact, very sarcastic, but just let it go.
Read it several times, you'll see that it is, in fact, dripping in sarcasm.
'Sarcasm' is your word for the day.
+John Finkel Their relationship has no bearing on anything, you're very uptight.
I'm going to say this once, I'm going to say this twice, Tai-chi is not self defense it's just a healthy activity
If tai chi is a martial art than so is yoga😂
At 4:06 I didn't realize he actually hit the boxer cause he didn't even flinch. And after he even asks if he's okay lmaooo I'm dying
Usually when people train in martial arts they tend to not hit hard, mostly because you aim to vital spots and whatnot so it would have a big effect (the human body is designed pretty badly)
But sometimes they train hitting pretty hard so defence is quite useful (I trained in karate for quite a while and we didn't really hit, except when it was time to actually test the things out and that was a great way to learn defensive moves)
@@tuluppampam Well yeah but mans is a boxer. Give the people a good, fast hit that won't harm the guy, but will still show what it's all about. It is clear to me that you've never done MMA or BJJ or Muay Thai lmao because yall Taekwondo and Karate kids have a really different mentality lol.
The master of bullshido.
Alex Lunders savage
EneSacarification I think that whatever Mr Mace is doing can’t be used in combat. It doesn’t matter what kind of master he is, that’s not real hand to hand techniques and therefore is performing gibberish.
EneSacarification it’s easy to use these techniques during slow-motion but in a real fight, the “Tai chi-masters” don’t stand a chance.
@@DrFaustusZ in my opinion tai chi is more effective in meditation
Robin Popps Meditation? Who are you, kung fo panda?
Boxers has a training for pain tolerance open hand slap will never hurt them
Even the hardest skin can fell that pain
Prius Black Rose depends how you slap
Boxers aren’t gods. Some boxers can’t fight their way out of a wet paper bag
ŇøHă Ģ. I don’t think you get what I’m saying. It’s not the art, it’s how you apply the techniques to a fight. Also no. Just a question do you practice or learn about martial arts?
Slap to the chest will do NOTHING against boxer
These vids are farking brilliant and always ring true. Thanks Jake. ❤️
Thanks for the knowledge sir. Keep up the good work!
This the funniest shit I’ve ever seen 😂😂. This man first attack is back hand slap to the ribs lol
@Mark Norton lol
Yeah Like Ouch did a bee just sting me?
@Mark Norton Right.....name me one fighter in the history of boxing that leaves his ribs exposed after a jab....what a joke
Justin Chiles just change it to a punch or something it ain’t need to be a slap. If you got a knife use that lol.
He could elbow or knee the rib. That would cause serious damage
"Are you okay?"
😆😆 "Yeah bro, I'm fine. Spar me for real."
Christopher Mullinix 😂
Lol
2:28 what are you doing lol, no damage
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i have been into a lot of streetfights as a teenager,/adolescent, and did a lot of combat sports, boxing, wrestling, etc. the only thing i have experienced for SURE, never underestimate an opponent, and extreme aggression and determination in the first 10 to 30 seconds always has won the fight, even without combat sports experience. Nowadays i try to avoid any fight, because in the end even the winner will loose.
Very wise words. I came to the same conclusion(from a similar background).
A true master (not necessarily even a martial artist) is a person who would not start or even need to fight. Therefore no one wins or loses! I came across a guy who started having a go at me one time, just because he wanted to. He could have taken me out with perhaps 1 or 2 punches. I would have been flat on my back. But, I managed to talk him down out of it. It took me 2 hours to do it and I was scared stupid, but it worked.
damn two hours to get someone to not punch you...
@@williamandrews8320 a true martial art master would not start a fight, but if he has to, he could take all ppl down, that's a master.
@@OTIS8883 exactly, martial arts are the art of peace, you try to avoid the fights, but if the agressors are stubborn and still looking for it you put them in order by teaching them a lesson - beating them up of course.
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TheAngelic SeraphimFarron Hey TheAngelic. It was called "Man of Tai Chi" with Keanu Reeves! No, I don't believe in Qi like that! I don't believe that humans are "X-Men" Characters! I do believe that you can gain master of yourself and mastery of any skill with time and effort! That is what Kung Fu is all about! Practice over time using lots of effort! Good luck!
Someone's been watching too many movies
TheAngelic SeraphimFarron Humans already use more than 10% of their brain, that is an old myth. Some references - faculty.washington.edu/chudler/tenper.html and en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_percent_of_brain_myth
used to do Capoiera in high school
JewMuricaWarOn ChildrenOfAdam Funny they can never do it with a scientific control in place.
🤣😂 "are you ok?, ....c'mon you can take it"
I tried these moves in a match and got beaten
I want a refund
Pls don't try tai chi in a fight
Use jiu-jitsu (if you really want to use martial arts) which should work a little better
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this bullshit and not traditional in any way
Trixter Phoenix
Tell us this is a joke.
I´m 50 years old, so potentially no match for young fighters. Still doing Boxing and Kickboxing, had some 50 fights in the 90s and some 1000s sparring rounds with or against fighters from any kind of style. Even with beginners i never saw a boxer throwing one straight left, leaving enough time and space to use a technique like shown in the video. It is obvious that any! fighter would adopt a superior system - but nobody in MMA-professional-fighting is using it, for the simple that it doesn´t work. It´s pretty hard to fight skilled Boxers even when you are a good (low)kicker, their punching-frequency and footwork is impressive and has proven it worth. I´ve never found a single video on YT showing a real fight in which this slapping and pushing works fine - so it will be hard to convince me.
I think Tai Chi is really supposed to look more like boxing... like this guy (fast forward over the BS at the beginning). You can check out other videos of his students training, and it just looks like a boxing gym-- to me, the "tai chi" aspect is just the focus of training, staying loose to be quick, and then, adding in training what to do when the gloves are touching, tricks to move the opponents hands away, or control the hands and set up the knock out. But nobody in America practices it that way...
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Dead right my friend, this guy is full of it. they saw him coming and showed him wrong shit
Quite correct.
UFC is fake and staged.
Phil B. Jones so what about other mma promotions? Bellator, one? Or ufc when it first began? Those all fake too? Or is it more likely that “punch me really slow while i move out of the way and bitch slap your belly” doesn’t actually work?
looks great,thanks for the sharing and teaching,appreciate
Jake well done nice video I enjoyed:)
😂😂😂😂 this is why people get killed!!
HAHAHA
santoandkim OOOF
Yes. This is illusion
Not practice to use.
The worst video ever🤣
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M thinking how that boxer hold his laugh. 😂.
These are some really good demo's and explanations of Tai Chi Martial Application. Props, for clear explanations. That said, he was never taught true Fa Jing. If he had, the boxer would have dropped from those strikes. Popper Fa Jing can be used with any strike, including the back hand.
I love Tai Chi. I use to be really shy around people at the club and other social functions until I started learning Tai Chi. It has given me the confidence I needed and completely changed my life. Now, I usually find myself being the first one on the dance floor with my fancy Tai Chi flow and dance moves. One time, a fight broke out at a club but I just kept calm and continued dancing using my Tai Chi dance moves.
Sticky Rice Were your moves as fast as lightning?
Gerhard Symons fast yet slow at the same time. hate to admit this but i got laid that night for the first time in 40 years, thanks to Tai Chi
Sticky Rice Great! If true, it's a fantastic story. Keep up with the slick moves!
i love you man no homo
Lmao!!! Love it
This guy makes the martial art community looks bad
Wrong, Jake Mace is focusing on very important aspects of all martial arts. Focus, endurance, self control, perseverance , patience, and following closely the ways of Shaolin, which include being Vegan or vegetarian. Once you can achieve his patience ,endurance, focus, self control, and undertake true Shaolin training, then, and only then would I concern myself about your opinions of this man or any Martial Artist. Another very important fact, Jake Mace doesn't allow his comments to come from an over swelled ego or a sense of self importance .If closed minds came with shut mouths, what a wonderful world this would be.
Why
@@wolfbuchanan2013 😂
wolf i agree with the part of beiing peacefull. But in shaolin they would use a working technique. You can try break my ribs with a slap with the back of your hand but IT aint gonna work.
This Guy is teached by a master that claims to know every animal form of kung fu etc. He believes he is doiing stuff right. He is a good person but he doesnt know wat he is doiing a lot of the time. Sorry for my broken english and have a great day🙏
Wolf Buchanan then the martial artist gets knocked out by the boxer anyway . It’s laughable . If they were any good they’d take up boxing for the money and all be millionaires . They don’t because it does t work
I’ve been looking g for the past thirty minutes on a more “effective form” and I finally found it the ones I’ve been finding I wasn’t seeing no “flow of energy” and movement this guy had good posture and Explained or really well planning to get into tai-chi whenever I heal from my ankle Injury I had heard how it helps add strength to the bones
Bravo ! Really fantastic …
Never see a boxer standing still for 4 sec after the jab. Western boxing is lot of fast hard punch and excelent footwork
How to ? ?
@Mark Norton It doesn't work on untrained fighters either :)
1:10 Great way to start to get knocked out😂😂😂
Divine Truth 😂😂😂😂😂😂 right hook
Lmao just cross
That was actually the only part he got right, a slip is forward and ideally to the outside of a straight. You want your eyes glued to your opponents shoulders, you'll see a cross coming a mile away from there,
Someone's never taken a boxing class. A slip is a rudimentary and essential part of any boxers arsenal, and it helps with working angles around your opponent.
0:45 “oh man, that’s a lot of power” 😂
Thanks a lot for that mouvements...
Cool sidestep. I'm sure you'd have pulled it off equally well if it wasn't slow motion.
Must be a true master to understand there is no need to keep your guard up with the other hand, boxers never throw combos and that flaccid wrist slap would break anyone's ribs and incapacitate them.
It's a complete mystery why we never see Tia chi masters winning MMA tournaments.
Be careful trying this on the street boys and girls, don't want to accidental kill someone by releasing too much chi!
+Jim Giant
best comment so far
+fightington Thanks bro. You've got some great videos on your liked list.
+Jim Giant same brah, looks like the training is going nicely :). I've been watching heaps about wim hof lately, check out the vice doco, sick.
fightington Wim hof is very impressive, I'm looking to learn the opposite skill though plan on learning armoured combat and the heat gets pretty unbearable after a while.
+Jim Giant sick. I know hof ran a half marathon in the desert...
Why am I watching this?
MR TURTLE the same two reasons everybody else is watching. Bc we love Jake and want to learn cool ass kung fu, or bc his bullshido is just hilarious to watch lmao
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Same nigga
Because to a turtle Tai Chi moves at normal speed.
entertainment
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its been many years since this videos was post here boxer its still laughing said the legend
These moves might work ok in a slap fight.
A really slow slap fight. XD
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The main thing that concerns me about this video, is that a boxers jab comes back very quick and gives time for repositioning and defence. I'd think for it to be more effective against a jab, you'd have to slip and strike at the same time. It would have also been nice to get some input from the boxer about the techniques.
Very UNREALISTIC!
Sorry...but this is out of reality, as a boxer the first thing we learn is to hit and immediately get our guard ready to cover our sides (ribs) face, stomach etc, the hit is like a whip any boxer knows you must never keep your arm extended, so this defense against a jab will never work against a real boxer.
Edgar Novoa Also I believe the vast majority of the people on the planet, regardless of training would be able to land a jab before he could side step it.
I say put some gloves on the guy that "knows" Thai chi up against someone with at least 5 amateur fights and see what happens 😂
I actually searched for Martial Art, but damn i never saw such a good dance tutorial.
how bold he was to keep on comments
I love Jake, nuff said.
This will get your ass kicked. Jab is quick. Not gonna have time do all fancy shit
Stop underestimating it dumbass boxing can't fucking beat everything
No boxer throws a hook and freezes for a few seconds for you too do that Pwachaa shit
Abdu Fabbi: this made my day!!!
Abdu Fabbi So true. I do boxing myself and was always taught to do quick punches so I don't give up my cover
Actually, Tai Chi masters can freeze time at will. Many of them will grab a snack and tea while doing so.
Abdu Fabbi This guy teaches bullshit
i doubt this guy has ever been rocked in the face before , when he does his faajing , a real boxer would have already cracked him on the chin. there goes his years and years of catching flies with a chopstick and walking on air and all that bullshit.
Hey, thanks for adding to the conversation, and being willing to share your passion with the community! It's scary to put yourself out there in front of all the haters.
Not all are haters, just realistic people with actual fighting experience that know this would simply not workout in reality!
@JohnBlue Jake Mace is known to be someone with "no lineage" and sells belt promotions through the mail. If that is adding to a conversation than i have some chi gung ranks to sell you
Fighting Taiji requires a lot of practice and lots of practical, full contact with realistic speed and strength. Therefore, you need a very strong, fast and agile body to be able to use Taiji in a real fight. You also need a good eye and strong self-confidence to deal properly with an escalating situation. For these reasons, it is easier to learn Taiji for health only. And just aside, what this gentleman prefers here is no taiji and only harms people.
Tai Chi is like that one guy whose the pacifist but when shit goes down he's the craziest one.
Kriston Mei Hahaha! Yes! :)
I'm not one to bash another style because anyone with exceptional skill and understanding can make any style work but on this video. A jab in boxing is used to distract or set up another blow or movement. A professional boxers jab like Ali's would not be able to slip like this without being caught by another left hook or straight right of uppercut. Normally slipping a jab could be dangerous as the boxer could be setting you up for a hard blow.
This here is a beautiful understanding of boxing
I mean its even used for man than that sometimes its just used as a “stay were you are if you don’t wanna get laid tf out”type move
You can slip the jab slip to the outside and bring your feet with you. You could get headkiked slipping any punches though if your hands are down
@@justinhavens9835 move 45 degrees. 😉
@@Starring001 true, especially if you are looking to close the distance.
are this moves are only effective for fights that needs pauses or u have to practice stopping time to do this in reality ?
Tai chi is a martial discipline and when practiced correctly can create exceptional energy (chi ) that is centred around the lower belly. The movement builds strength, speed and heightens ones ability to read the telegraphing of an enemy’s attacks. You learn how to create space and readiness when being harassed.
But the readiness has to be kept very inconspicuous until the very last moment! Be careful not to antagonise with a flash stance, as it can make a bad situation worse!
Be humble and loose, but crack like a whip when needs be.
Pacifying is the best form of Defence.
Tai chi is taught by many people but its true essence is not.
Never compare one discipline against another, but compare the disciplined against the none!
I like how many people learn kung fu tai chi and all that but in a real fight they just punch and kick.
Brandon chung That's what Kung Fu is!!! :)
Kung Fu & Tai Chi Center w/ Jake Mace I know but how do you do the thing where you can catch the punch and push it away. must have reflexes of a tiger to do that.
It's about applying what's necessary. Too many people get stuck in the idea that you'd literally be doing forms in a real fight. Use what's practical from whatever martial art you take. You don't necessarily need to employ every learned move in one altercation
+Brandon chung I used Wrestling, Judo, and Brazilian Jiu Jutsu in high school and in the Marines. I'm 5'4'' so striking isn't my strongest suit for combat/fighting. Grappling is much better for shorter people vs stronger/taller people. Most people have muscle, but lack skill/experience.
+Brandon chung Only young inexperienced students do that bud,and most that even contemplate that are young students ,Any teacher worth his weight wouldn't be caught dead on you tube
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When you vibrate, are you not lessening the kinetic energy that could be used in a more powerful strike?
great job
Tai chi is so effective that everyone uses it on the ufc 😂
Too deadly for the Octagon
@Alex Amaya you had me in the fist two, not gonna lie, i was like,oh ffs not one of these idiots
@@straightlead8 I hope you’re joking.
Everyone is an expert. There is a really effective fighting taiji called taiji chuan. But it takes a long time of intense training to master it. You don't just take a few classes and become deadly. I guess it's the same for any martial art. You have to train for years before serious pro fighting. I am sure that all the comments here come from kids who never had a real fight in their life and get their knowledge from CZcams. It's ridiculous. Hey kids, instead of this, go learn and train hard and get in shape. You won't have time for stupid arguments about things you know nothing about on CZcams.
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I came here to learn how to 'water bend’ as an avatar the last air bender character and even I’m confused/disappointed
Is this the guy that got smashed in the mma fails when he is on his knees slapping the other guy? 😂😂
Great, I always enjoy the good comedy ...😅😂😅😂
You would stand no chance. Tai chi it's good for your health and wellbeing, not for fighting. Even though you can use some techniques in a fight but it will not help you against boxer or MMA fighter. You need muscle and fighting skills. Breathe in breathe out will give you black eye and bleeding nose.
CuteTiger That’s not true, it depends how you apply it. If you apply certain tai chi at a fast paced to a real person, it’s real combat moves.
@@GhostRider-hy9zt yeah right. BJJ is the only real thing that helps you. Also mui tai is a good one
The Gunner It’s true. That’s coming from a CZcamsd called Ramsey Dewey. He was a professional boxer, sun da, and MMA. Now he teaches cage fighters and commentates on matches. So yes it is right. Also when he was doing an introductory, he did tai chi, because and then did it full speed. Then he did it to his helper and took her down.
TaiChi would dominate a lot of pro boxers today. But only the people who practice TaiChi for its main purpose can do this. Someone who practices taichi with the intent to fight with it, might not be the best taichi fighter. But someone who practices TaiChi for flow, with the primary task at hand is flow and well-being, and view fighting as something that's not primary could dominate. These people practice mainly for the flow, but also learn how to use taichi in different scenarios. And muscle isnt necessarily needed to engage in a pro boxer, if you're a master at taichi. If you aren't a master at it, and you still dont grasp the whole concept and how to apply it to fights, then you might need muscle. TaiChi is powerful my friend, much more powerful that what you think😌
Most real tai chi guys will say that tai chi is about health and wellness, not necessarily fighting. That doesn’t mean that it can’t be used for fighting. You can’t say that tai chi would never work because there are some legit tai chi guys that fight in sanda matches often and use striking and grappling effectively. Pull the sparrow by the tail and part the horses mane are basic tai chi movements and are basically a pull down and throw.
Cutetiger there are plenty of guys who have dabbled in tai chi that fight in MMA, and some traditionalists that can use their art to full effect. Not discounting bjj, boxing, wrestling, and Muay Thai of course, but taiji is good for us older guys who want an interesting workout that won’t hurt us. You young guns can have all that other stuff.
I've been practicing shotokan karate in the 80's, Aikido in 80's, then thai and kick boxing, in qi gong since the 90's. I have much respect for tai chi, but a person who practices tai chi and fight with a boxer, will just get destroyed. Tai chi is a form of qi gong. tai chi has some martial roots in it, but in no way gives any capacity to any person to fight boxers. You live in an illusion if you believe the contrary. tai chi could be a complementary practice for a fighter who already is in thai boxing, or boxing, or full contact martial art. tai chi would give you better balance and better understanding of movements, but if you practice tai chi , even for 10 years, and you think you can fight a boxer with it, you are totally in an illusive world. same applies with most wu shu technic and aikido. Practicing tai chi does not prepare your body to get hit, does not teach you how to strike punches, knees elbow and kicks ... through the angle of real fight and self defense, tai chi is just a system of pointless fancy movements for people who live in a dream ... and you could almost say the same thing with most of aikido and kung fu movements, which does not teach you how to kick and punch, and only require that you grabb opponent arms at very precise moments and spots to be effective, which hapen in fancy training but never in real street combat situation or on a ring. Of course it looks good on videos or in movies; indeed practice tai chi for meditation, breathing, get better health, get bette immune system, get in harmony with the universe and follow the law of tao, but avoid it if you think you can fight just with it cause you will get wrecked...consequently this video is total utter bullshit .. ...namaste
+astralseeker These people are promoting techniques and martial arts used to originally teach KIDS DISCIPLINE as actual self defense. And that is extremely dangerous. Its disgusting that they do what they do just to support their own ego.
+astralseeker Forget what people do Taijiquan for, forget about goofballs like Jake the Fake, forget about old people dancing on a beach. Taijiquan is a fighting art. Health benefits are a plus. Qi gong to Taijiquan is like push ups and crunches to a boxer. Would you watch a boxer doing push ups and say that's not going to work in a fight? You don't practice Taijiquan for meditation. You meditate, and to be accurate you don't meditate, you simply sit, or stand but that's another post, to improve your skills by quieting the mind. Watch the films of Ali in his prime. His speed comes from his stillness. A simple concept difficult to practice.
As far as accuracy and precise timing for effectiveness, well you just described boxing, so I get the impression you don't really know what you're talking about here, though I agree with you 100% about this vid being utter bullshit. It is.
I love seeing comments like yours. Please, I understand tai chi is used for health but don't think what this guy is showing is martial tai chi. Real tai chi is for warfare and lethal compared to basic western boxer. They develop everything for fighting, again nothing like this video. If you haven't trained with a legit master (preferably Chen style) you won't have any idea what I'm talking about and think it's just yoga and meditation. But for those who know, they know it well. Google Chen Taiji Masters and watch some real videos before giving tai chi a bad name from this.
Lol. Tai chi is a particularly vicious form of kung fu slowed riiiiiight down.
I mean sloweddddd down. Its great muscle memory training. Its great for muscle control. And its a blooody good work out you dont realise youve gotten until you stop.
I used to do taekwondo ( not the bs sport crap they teach now) and tai chi. The couple of street fights i got into i generally ended up using the ta chi not the tkd.
Everyone has to find their own way. Everyones tao is different.
Shunga Munga Ali's speed came fron repetition and genetics
When you side-step slip the jab, are you the least bit concerned that you're then lined up to eat his right hook as he turns his body away from the backhand to the ribs and into his right?
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Remembers me of the 2 punch attack in Shenmue tbh
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Sorry but tai chi is not effective...why you not show normal sparring vs boxer?
If I was doing normal sparring vs a Boxer I would be throwing kicks, sweeps, palms, elbows, knees, joint manipulation, throws, and takedowns. These are ALL found in Tai Chi but since Boxing is a sport it is limited to punches only! Boxers are amazing and if we sparred using Boxing rules then the Boxer may win! But, for general sparring or fighting, Tai Chi has many, many, many more weapons at it's disposal making it a more complete fighting system!!! :)
Kung Fu & Tai Chi Center w/ Jake Mace A great Tai Chi martial arts idea...Why not have you and Eric just sitting there and THINK of a match. You know, like Jet Lei and Donny Yen in Hero. Would be EPIC, tons of viewers and fun to make.
Tai Chi Chuan can be VERY effective in fighting--boxers or anybody else. The problem is that it takes two or three times longer to get to high enough skill level to use it in a fight--than it does studying karate, boxing, etc. Some of the deadliest fighters have been Tai Chi Chuan masters.
Kung Fu & Tai Chi Center w/ Jake Mace Im not sure what to say but since the video features a tai chi fighter vs a boxer, sure i can see this technique as viable because boxers dont use elbows, on the other hand i dont know how Jake Mace would react using this technique against a fighter of a different style.
In Jujutsu (Samurai martial art) and Ninjutsu (Ninja martial art) i would use the basic step/dodge but i would make sure that my opponent wouldn't be able to use his arm again (yes that means break it) using my elbow against his elbow while my left arm pushed his wrist, i dont know if i described it well, sorry about that xD.
Waiting for a reply, Jake Mace.
Diogo Caetano Hey Diogo - Yes, I would use a different strategy and different moves against a Taekwondo or Ninjutsu fighter! I will have to do a video about it! Stay tuned!
Enjoy all of your videos. Question, have you ever been in a real street fight?
Looks good. Gonna try it today with my boxer pal
If he is any good he will destroy you.
I wouldnt advise anyone to use these strategies / techniques against a boxer.
JKD/Wing Chun Kung Fu I am a boxer this guy not even standing correctly or shooting punches correctly. No boxer would ever come in that close, stand shoulder to shoulder, or leave body open like that. This video is more Tai Chi vs street fighter.
Tony Roberts I guess so. And this is dangerous even against an untrained fighter.
JKD/Wing Chun Kung Fu, why?
Because good boxers have among the best judgment of distance,speed and power in their hands. They retract their hands as fast as they fire their shots. These techniques are ineffective against a boxer. I have sparred with good boxers and belive me,i know.
Pegour Black Belt in Tai Chi? No comment.
This work perfect, when in slow motion...
But impossible in real life
Its not impossible in real like. If you watch boxing, boxers literally do this all the time. Slipping punches and countering
Juaquin Trumpet You’re thinking of bobbing and weaving. The point of B&W is to get out of the way of the strikes without lining yourself up for another which is why boxers often go down, not laterally. If the opponent knows you’re gonna “slip” inside, they can bait you with a flinch then spin your jaw around the back of your head.
@@aliteralflamingpileofgarba6236 i dont know about a flinch, but boxes call it a faint if thats what you mean. i didnt mean slip inside. i just meant slipping punches. you can slip laterally or utilize angles to get to the side of your opponent and then counter off their punches thrown, and yes thats why my coach always says to fake to one side then go the other way. Ive gotten caught many times cause I became predictable going the same way all the time
No it is not slow, this is crap.
Taiji can speed up if you strong enough.
Tai chi is really useless
At 4:07 now it might be a crazy idea....but wouldn't a hook body shot work as well if not better after the slip?
Really cool :)
😂😂😂 tai chi guys get beaten up everywhere
Yep
@Spencer Phelps its very useless, any martial art can best a tai chi practicioner anyday. A street fighter that never been in a fight will be a good fight
I do bjj and wrestling and I really really want to beat up a tai chi fighter 😂
Boxing, bullets does too.......i can keep going? 🤣 everything gets beat everywhere
@@PeterPan012 I'm about to start BJJ 👏
Do that to Deontay Wilder 😂
Deontay Wilder? Using a shotgun to a spider there buddy. Besides, why would he think he could do anything the heavyweight champion of the world. There’s like 3x in the world that could beat him why would you mention him?
I’m interested in the combat element. I can’t find someone close enough to teach and I feel I really need to in person.
Yeah i really like your comedy shows ❤️❤️ always makes me laugh
this dude is bogus
+Uzzi-EL so true!
I think he means well. It's a difficult martial art and the people who really understand the sweet stuff don't like to share. And yet, this stuff here isn't tai chi. It's too stiff. None of the six harmonies must-haves are present. It may be effective. It's hard to tell from the video and demonstration stuff. But it's not tai chi. Then again, most people in the US don't know any better and the Chens are notoriously free about handing out duan ranks of you're willing to pay. It's what keeps their village fed, so I can't really blame them.
RELEASE THE BOGUS
Uzzi-EL there is a reason why tai chi is only useful if you want to get in good shape, it can be a good workout but will not be useful in an actual fight, it's just not that practical, if he wanted to prove his point he would do an actual sparring match to test it's effectiveness, this is almost like watching an aikedo demonstration, sure it might look useful but in an actual situation where you need to defend yourself against a boxer or mauy Thai fighter your kind of fucked, don't practice Tai chi with the intention of learning self defense, that's what mauy Thai or boxing is good for and it's a good workout as well.
I'd rather use an ordianry boxing slip than that complicated 45 slip Tai Chi. I try doing that. Its slower and seldomly works.
Why not use the elbow or sword hand or inverted strike? Just asking!
He even flinches just catching the punches at the start.
In many years no one had ever thought of dodging a fist by moving 45 degrees. This video is revolutionary.
Thank you, master.
Now I realize why I didn't pay any attention to this channel , the newer videos are more practical.
If you do four 45 degree angles you go back in time.
It will only work with one armed boxers. Anyone with two arms will make you wake up the next morning without knowing your name.
@@rotorairgroup8409 Say that to Muay Thai
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My style of TKD is most closely related to Military (No guards, except for groin guards, full contact etc...), I did Wing Chun for a little bit, and am starting Judo (ILIAS ILIADIS FOR THE WIN!!!) in the summer. By the way, do you by any chance do Bokator, Iaido, or Kalaripayattu? Because those places are SO rare to find in the U.S. What kind of Martial Art or Martial Arts do YOU practice? Tell ME below! :D
southern praying mantis and japanese jujutsu ^^
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Souther Long fist. Also called Nan Chien (could e spelled chan Chen or chian. The spelling has been lost.
Taekwondo
The art of fighting without fighting.
The main thing that sets Tai Chi Chuan apart as a martial art is the 'sticking hands' where the practitioner makes contact and lightly sticks to the opponent (not grappling). Martial techniques like pushing, striking, standing takedowns (shui jiao), or joint locking (chin na) can originate from this 'sticking' contact. Tai Chi Chuan is a short to medium range art and the practitioner will seek to move in quickly to make constant contact with the opponent and avoid boxing or kick boxing from a distance.
Push hands training builds the sensitivity as a precursor to martial techniques. Tai Chi Chuan practitioners also can be very good at manipulating their opponents balance when 'sticking' to them, knocking them down or making it harder for them to set up a strike.
There are many stories of Tai Chi Chuan masters in older times taking on and beating conventional martial artists and some emperor bodyguards trained in Tai Chi Chuan. Cheng man Ching was a product of this era as a student of Yang Chengfu. He had a number of proficient karate black belt students in New York that sought out and respected his skill. It would take years of correct practice with a martial focus to get to a high level of martial skill. Tai Chi is also great for health and for complementing a 'hard' martial art.