Picking the Right Takomo Iron for Your Game
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- čas přidán 18. 10. 2023
- In this video I give a detailed look and comparison of the Takomo 101T, 201, and 301CB. Find out what they have in common, what's different, and which one makes sense for your golf game.
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Very helpful review. Thank you for comparing the size and look of the irons to what we see in the golf shops.
My 201s arrive Friday. Can't wait! Based on this video I think I made the right choice for my game.
I got my 201s back when it first came out and every time I look at them or see them in a video I just love them. Best feeling and forgivable club I ever had and will never go to any other club.
Thank you AJ. Very appreciative of the info to help me choose. Wish you were closer but i will take a chance.
I am 69 yo. Still hit a 7 iron from 150. Not long but not short I guess. I just built a set of 101’s. I put in a reg fujikara air speeder 50 in it. Use to build all my own clubs. Haven’t for years. I was hitting Mizuno graphite irons. Played my first round today and shot 75, with two three outs. Love the feel of these clubs, heads are exceptional. Would highly recommend them.
You’ll shoot you age at this rate. Class
Funny you said that. I had a 20 foot putt for a 69 yesterday. I left it in the middle of the cup about three inches out. Maybe one of these days.
@@markt5746 Really Really Cool. All the best boss. let me know when you do it. won't be too long now.
What did you shoot back 9? @@markt5746
I’m going to get the 101t. Heads only and build on project X steel6.5 with BB&F ferrules. I just have to sell more of my old stock. Almost there. Great review!! Oh, I watched your show on shims, and you were fitting a 101t in a .355 shaft.
I wish you could combo the 201 with the 301cb. I think that would make the perfect setup for me.
I’m playing the 201’s and absolutely love them! Soft feel and look great behind the ball.
Just ordered the 201’s! For me as a 10 handicap they seem like the right fit. All reviews online are pretty favorable. Lofts are a little strong for my liking I wish I could strike it consistent enough to play the 301 combo cb/mb because I prefer traditional lofts with my swing speed but nothing beats the forged feel so it was a pretty easy decision.
Let me know how you get on with these. I’m a 9, solid ball striker and am unsure of which to go for. Thanks!
Tossing up between the 101T and the 201's. I swing back and forth on the two. I would love the feel of a forged head, but don't like the idea of them getting dinged up. I also love the looks of the 101T. I'm also tossing up what shaft type I'd need. There are just so many variables with everything...
Me too. Im leaning 201 for the forged head. Hollow heads feel weird to me historically
@@woody5581 ended up going with 101t for looks and forgiveness. Loving them
Thanks again, like your videos👍 you are so frank and craft💪💪
Love this! Would be great to see the same done with Maltby, although I know they're certainly less media-friendly.
Currently playing the KE4 Max irons, love them, thinking about getting these 101T or 201s just for a more blade feel now.
@@CMoore6tfour I play the TS3's which I think fit that bill, and I've heard great things about the TS1-IM and TS4 as well.
Would love for you to review the 101U when it gets back in stock!!!
Man. I commented on one of your videos about having the 201s bent up. I love these clubs but have gone back to my T300 clubs. I love the feeling of the 201s when you hit them pure. But I think the shafts, KBS tour 120 stiff, are wrong for me. I love the feel of the true temper AMT red stiff in my t300s. I wish I was closer so you could doctor up my 201s. Awesome videos.
Can always ship them.
Thanks for the helpful content! Very interested in the how the cast 101Ts feel compared to the 301CBs.
I was interested in these irons, but limited lefty options made the decision for me. Still nice looking clubs and great price.
I’m playing the 101 for two months now hcp 16,3, work really good for my slow swing speed😉
Greetings from Denmark 🇩🇰
Which shaft do you have in your 101’s @krhfly99
@@lawrencecirillo3233 Tour Lite Regular
How slow?
This is great as im looking at the takomo range at the moment as i want to move on from my jpx825s which ive had for a long time now. Playing of 10 im moving towards the 201s rather than 301s
201 is way friendlier then the 301 especially in the 4 and 5 irons.
Been playing the 201 with KBS C-Taper lite 115 X for two years and absolutely love them. The only problem is they only have 4-PW. Would have loved a 201 3 iron also.
Great video. I was going back and forth between the 101t and 201. Forged clubs feel like butter when you hit them. But losing a lot of distance on mishits(toe) was my big concern. But after seeing this, seems like the diffence between the 2 is minimal. 201 it is!
The 101t is fractionally more forgiving but if you are a solid iron striker, the 201 is a fantastic feeling club.
Thanks for the helpful vid! If Takomo offered combo sets, they would dominate the affordable iron space
They do…
@andershaukoos
I have played or at least tested 101, 201, 101T, and 301CB. I love all of them and currently play the 101T’s. Great products to build and play with 19 sets built and sold.
I also play the 101T. I can get around 200 out of my 6 iron
@@JretnuH That's awesome Rory
What kind of handicap are you playing at?
@@pipedown7969 my current GHIN index is 0.8 or a 0 hcp.
@@pipedown7969 7
I'm absolutely sure the 201s would be best for me right now. But I don't care. I'm getting the 301CBs because they are too gorgeous and I'll grow into 'em.
shit for the price get both, still cheaper then a 790 set or something like a t150
Unreal - the internet has been reading my mind again. I have been looking at these clubs for a few weeks now and was struggling to choose. The 201 is the one I think I would go for. Next issue is the shaft they supply from their website, a choice of 3 KBS shafts - which one of them is similar to the Dynamic Gold 100S ?
I bought takomo 101 a year ago..suitable & easy to handle after replacing to Kbs graphite 50g shaft
Curious: After all this time, how do you like your Takomos? I've heard the metal wears out quickly and the grooves go flat.
Thanks for the help with heads but have you done one on shafts? I am 77 I am 6’1”, my mid iron swing speed is 80 mph but I don’t really understand shaft flex including high, medium, low kick points. I hit my clubs very high, with little difference between graphite or steel shafts.
Love the way you love each other.
Good information before I pull the trigger on a set
Great video AJ. One suggestion, when you hold two clubs up to look at it isn't always obvious which club is which. It would be helpful if you could identify them each time. Where is elite fit golf located at?
Should have done that. I am in Atlanta.
Looking at the numbers, the 201 is the way to go. Unfortunately, it is the least cosmetically appealing of the bunch. I hope they will do a cosmetic refresh to make it look more similar to the 101T, and allow it to be combo'd with 101T or 301CB.
Nice video and super cool you fit Wedgley I’m a frequent viewer of BB channel. Could you bend 101ts a degree stronger and 1 degree flat?
I agree about the very very shallow cavity on the 301 CB irons. It's barely a cavity at all. But somehow MyGolfSpy rated them as the second most forgiving players irons for a 2023 release, and third overall for 2023.
They sell advertising, they are only as objective as their bank account 🤣.
@@ScottDreyfusWell these are rated using player tests - lots of players, lots of hits. The 2nd most forgiving rating was arrived at from their data. "Forgiveness is a measurement of a product’s consistency with ball speed, carry distance, backspin, and dispersion." Though I don't know exactly how they combine or weight those results.
@@michaelk7262 I’m not saying that just that I don’t take everything they say as gospel because if you accept money or free product you’re not unbiased. It’s just not how the brain works. It’s like the ball test there isn’t 40 yards between golf balls. I like Tony a lot and Adam is a pretty nice guy but they aren’t scientists, just bros started a golf adjacent company and good for them. I think it hit a nerve we have two guys in our big group that definitely subscribe to the cult of mgs.
Follow up question for you on your review. As I mentioned in my prior comment, I play Takomo 201 with Project X LZ 6.0 soft stepped and PXG Gen3 0311 P with Elevate Tour Stiff. I swap back and forth and think that I prefer the cavity back for feel and trajectory control. Wondering if you find the hollow body irons harder to fly low when desired. Also wonder if you find the hollow body irons to be more forgiving than comparable cavity back. 101T and 201 seem to perform the same for you.
I also had a club building question. My 201's weigh around 8 grams more than the 0311's. Both are a D2 swing weight. I think this comes down to the different shaft weights but wondering if the 201's can be built lighter with these same shafts or if I need to go down to Project X LZ 5.5 to lower the total weight. I find that the heavier shafts improve my impact position but I can get a bit tired by the end of the round. I'd like a similar feel in the swing with a slightly lighter overall package.
Flight is primarily determined by loft so that will be the big factor.
As for weight, 8g static weight is nothing in the grand scheme so I would not worry about that.
Hello! Since I live in Las Vegas it would not be practical to visit your fitting studio. My question is if I were to get properly fitted locally would you be able to assemble a set of Takomo 201’s and ship them to me?
Got the 301 blended set and that cavity back isn't really a cavity, more cosmetic than anything. It didn't seem any more forgiving than the MB
Is there a way to make any iron set a one length set? If so how could you do that?
AJ could you do vid on repair graphite shafts with bag wear if you are able to fix or have you got to replace shaft?
Bag wear is usually just cosmetic. I am not sure how you fix those marks unless you repaint them.
been useing 201s for p thru 7iron ,, then use 101s for top end seem to work for me , plus both sets cheaper than one major brand set
did you bend any of the clubs?
I am thinking about ordering a set of these but not sure how to choose the right stock shafts. Is there a general guideline based on swingspeed or other metric that would help with that?
Just be safe and get 100g shaft. If your very small or older guy you could go down to 60-85gram
How much can you bend the lie angle for the 101T?
I play the 201 irons. Bought the heads only based on one of your prior videos. They're built with Project X LZ 6.0 soft stepped. Really enjoying them. I switch between these and PXG Gen 3 P. I get a little bit more spin and better stopping power on 7 to 5 iron with these but also loose a little distance. Fair and expected tradeoff. There's 1 degree of loft difference between the sets. I see no difference 8 through PW. Very different feeling though. The 201's encourage better ball striking. I need a little bit of distance help (7 iron goes 150 yards) and the 201's give me that with a club that's a bit different than the mainstream. I've demoed the P770. Seeing that it's comparative to the 101t and that the 201 goes the same distance as the 101t tells me that I'm good with the 201. No need for iron envy; just play golf.
I just brought my 201s back out yesterday and fell in love all over again. I'd keep them if I hadn't lost the 5 and 7 iron.
@@EFGMC lost or threw into the woods ? 🤔
@@user-wg1nk5ww2u Completely lost the 5 iron. Most random club to lose I know. 7i was repurposed.
Playing miura-blades right now but there are old and so punishing on misshits. Should I go with the 301 cb’s ?
Being that the metal in the 201 and 301 are "soft". How do the clubs age? Would you expect the clubs to last?
I went to a PING fitting day recently and got fit into the i525 irons with the Project X IO shafts in stiff. Would you recommend the 101T over the 201 for me? Previously played off +3 but that was 6 years ago, I'm older now and wouldn't say no to extra distance and lower spin 🤔
I got pretty much identical distance out of the 101T and 201. Maybe the 101T is a fraction more forgiving but the 201 is more solid feeling to me.
Takomo would be wise to replace the 201 and 301CB with a single model, with lofts and ball speed numbers in between the two.
Currently the 201 is too similar in performance to the 101T, and the 301CB is too similar to the 301 MB.
And of course, it would be nice if they offered the ability to combo their sets, from the 101T down to the 301MB. And you really only need one club model to do that, not the current two.
@EFGMC I currently have the 101t and love and really enjoying them. My only thing is I tend to launch the ball a little higher than I would prefer. I have been thinking about the 301’s as I would be willing to give up a little forgiveness if it would bring down my launch a little. Would you think even with the weaker loft in the 301 that they would launch lower? Or do they have enough bounce on them to bend them a little stronger to bring the launch down?
You could bend down the 101t a degree or two before you jump ship on them.
@@EFGMC I have thought about that. My worry is I really like the turf interaction with them currently and worried that could mess that up. Also not really looking for more distance but could be worth a shot. I also might be being too picky, haha. But I hit some old Titleist T100 irons the other day and was getting the launch I like despite them being weaker lofts so it got me thinking. Thanks for the reply I enjoy your videos.
Would you say the 201s would compare to the titleist t150s?
The 201's were 2 more degrees stronger than what they are now when they first came out. Probably helps with forgiveness
Im.between the 201 n 101t. What's the best way to go about picking the right kbs shaft for me through takomo. I currently have reg flex 95 gram fujikura graphite in my irons. Bur not sure if I should or ready to go to a stiff shaft. I'd like to. Just nit sure how to know when i.need to. What's you'd suggestion. Im.hitting all my current irons about 20 yards farther than when I first git them 5 years ago.
Not going to be much difference moving one flex. If you want more height, the softer shaft may provide that. If you struggle with a slice, the softer shaft may also help.
If you feel like your dispersion is a little loose, the stiff shaft might be helpful there.
Are the 101T bendable?
I played this entire season with the 201's. My recommendation is that only low handicap, solid strikers play the 201's. The clubs are not very forgiving. Slower swing speeds or players seeking better off center hits should avoid these clubs.
Would you suggest the 101ts or 101 instead?
@@IronDrummer91 I have not tried them, so I am really not in a position to comment but I believe the 101’s are most forgiving
What's your handicap?
@@BallMarks 10
I’m 12 handicap. You think I can play 201?
Noticed that the 201's offsets are similar to my 2019 Taylormade P790 (steel shafts). Randomly picked a graphite shaft (stiff) off the rack and tried the current model P790 and was hitting the 7 iron 170-180 yards. Thinking about the Takomo 201 with graphite shafts as a replacement for my 2019 TaylorMade P790. Will buy the heads-only option from Takomo.
What would you suggest if you are playing the 201 with graphite shafts? 301CB or 201 or 101T? Interestingly, 201 is slightly cheaper than 101T.
301CB is essentially a blade. The cavity back is extremely small so it's by far the least forgiving. I get identical numbers from the 201 and 101t. The 201 feels better to me however I think the 101t is a more forgiving head if just by a little. Had a client who I built a set of 201s for coming from P790. He ended up going back because the 201 wasn't forgiving enough for him as a 10-12 hcp.
@@EFGMC so my 2019 P790 is probably going to gain me some distance with a graphite shaft (just bought the Fujikura Axiom 75 for a 5-PW) but not loose accuracy if I stay with them despite it is older - when compared to the Takomo 201 … probably not going to 101 as it is not forged.
I am currently playing a set of Bridgestone J15DF irons. I am looking for a little more distance and slightly more forgiving. The 201 seems like the right fit. Does that seem right?
Or the 101t
I have p790s I wonder which of these is closest to those?
AJ, I am currently playing the 923 Tours. How would you compare the Takomos regarding sound, feel and forgiveness to the Miz?
I think the 301CB is very close to the Tour.
I am also playing the JPX 923 Tours and am seriously considering picking up a set of Takomo 301s to compare.
I’ve got KBS Tour 130s in them right now and absolutely hate those shafts.
Looking for almost any excuse to go to something lower launch like the KBS C-Tapers
I was playing the WS D7 Forged prior to the 923s. I loved the KBS $ Lite 105s. The feel was fantastic. I am waiting for Takomo to offer the new copper and black faced limited addition before making a decision.@@BigDawgCAM
Quick question....
I know that you change the feel of the 101T by putting hot melt glue in it. How does the feel compare to the others once you've done that? I have a couple of forged sets of irons that I have grown to really enjoy the feel, and have wondered if I will ever go back to cast. However, if you can customize them enough to meet needed specs, it's really a smarter club to purchase. I hate how my Hogans get dinged up in the bag.
They are still a little different but it's a good feel.
@@EFGMC
Thanks, AJ!
A little extra like head covers prevent the dings!
@@deacontoby1
I don't have the patience for headcovers for my irons. I take good care of my clubs, but I get irritated having to pull them on and off my woods and hybrids.
Too bad more fitters won’t do these.
I’d love to try a set but not unfitted, can’t take that chance
The 201's look a lot like my Ping i200's. Would they be comparable?
Yes takamo 201s imo were patterned after ping i210 hence 201… I would say they are more similar to Ping i200 than Srixon and in between I200/210
Can you bend the offset out of the 101t and remove some of the offfset?
No. The 101t is not very bendable since its stainless. That said, I think the 101t have very minimal offset for the head style.
@@EFGMC I saw a set in person and it’s not gonna be for me then. I may look at the cbs though. I’ve had to bend loft onto my srixon zx7s twice . They keep going back strong a shit and I don’t need a 200 yard 7 iron but I like the forgiveness🤣
What do I need to do so you can fit me for tacomo irons?
Book a fitting at the studio.
Where are you located
Are you hitting a 6 or a 7 iron for these?
All 7 irons
I didn't know anyone was able to fit these irons. I thought you could only order directly from their website.
I fit them here.
@@EFGMC where is here?
@@rickcudmore8156 Atlanta
I can fit in the Charleston SC area.
@@jasondavis6831 that's a little far for me tor travel for a fitting.
where are these irons made? thx
Takomo is based in Finland and heads are made in a foundry in China. Don’t let that worry you. I have been building and repairing clubs for 35 years and have built all of the Takomo models and they are as good as any name brand. Out of 19 (133 individual heads) sets I’ve built and sold I have only found 3 heads that were slightly off the stated spec.
Which iron were demoing or did i miss that?
6,7,8,?
@@deacontoby1 All 7 irons
do the 3 have the same shaft weight? and what is the weight?
Three in the thumbnail picture are different but it was the same shaft I used when hitting them all. Think I used 120g Dynamic Gold??
How can someone get fitted by you?
Email me.
adam@elitefitgolf.com
I am 50. Hit 7 iron 165-170. I am thinking 201s. Should I go graphite? Or is there a big difference w/ them and the tour lite KBS shafts?
I have no info on the graphite shaft that Takomo uses. Never seen one in person so I can't speak to it.
Word on the grape fine is these aren’t made as good as when first introduced! Do you have any info!
I haven't heard any issues with the custom ones I've built. Can't speak to the factory built stuff.
Hope the irons you made for Wes stay in the bag!
I hope he wins with them!
You kept calling it Takoma on the bottom right
Autocorrect in the editing software always does this. I usually catch it.
I wish direct to consumer brands payed more attention to lefties. Sub 70 is the only brand that really does.
Takomo only makes the 101 and 201
Ben hogan golf only makes the apex edge and wedges
New level only makes the 902 os and wedges
They make only the game improvement irons for lefties and forget about a big demographic in golf
If you click “customize” on the product page for any of the other irons, you can select left handed.
@@Druicy_ thanks. That’s great to know
101t doesnt come in left handed. Weird
Can you combo a set
From everything that I have heard and read the answer is that no you can't. The company currently sells only full sets 4-PW. While you didn't ask, you also cannot sub out a gap wedge and delete the 4 iron. You can get lie, loft, and length adjustments for a fairly small fee.
You can combo 301mb with 301cb
@@djrondo1224 Good to know, but the 301s are not of my radar.
Cheap Chinese metal club face. Loved mine until the grooves were horrible. Lost ball height and carry over time. S20 steel too soft.
Takomo's are absolute trash. They last about one year, tops. You get what you pay for. I had the Takomo 101s. First issue was that the heads started tilting off of the shaft. Sent photos to Takomo and they agreed to repalace them, but had the audacity to blame KBS. I spoke with KBS and they said they were going to have a word with Takomo, after they saw the email Takomo sent me. Fast forward three months and I get the new irons and they are just freaking ridiculously good. Fast forward a year later and the heads are literally flying off on the driving range. Not hitting fat. Pure, ball first contact, with a bacon strip divot. Going to tryout the Pinemeadow Golf single length irons now, but Takomos are just trash. It's just a matter of when they start to fall apart, not if.
What shaft did you have in them? Was it the C Taper Lite?
Check out the most recent LetsPlayThru series. It might be another option for you to consider
Epoxy issue? Very easy fix if you like the heads. I hope this was an aberration, as someone just gave me a set. I love the look. Hope they hold up.
Seems you are in the minority
@@adampark4238 Group of one 😂
There are NO right takomo clubs to get as they are so fucking badly made it's a rip off
Takomo is garbage. After 20 months my 101T irons will not create any spin, hit low shots, and will not hold a green. They are made of cheap metal and the grooves collapse. I even used a groove tool to clean and in hopes for deeper groove but no go. Don’t buy clubs from a half ass cheap Finnish company made in a Chinese none quality control factory.
Do NOT buy Takomo! Worst customer service I have ever dealt with! They shipped me the wrong irons and refuse to allow me to return! It is a $698 mistake!! Don't do it!
Find this one hard to believe. I dealt with their customer service who proved to be quite quick and efficient. If they somehow sent you the wrong irons, they should be able to fix it.
Sounds more like you ordered the wrong set of irons, customised them, and ticked the box acknowledging you can’t return them!
Nearly every country in the world has laws that require takomo to accept the return if it’s their mistake. Failing that your credit card company can recover the monies. That is of course dependent on it being their fault and not simply that you’ve customised a set then ordered the wrong ones
He probably used them also and then tried to return them
Not true. I ordered two sets because I wasn't sure which one I wanted, used only the 7 iron, made my decision and returned one set for a refund
I’ve never had an issue with their tech support and they’ve answered any questions I’ve had
I tried to order irons and wedges, but they have zero interest in accommodating customers orders. Fixed sets, fixed lofts, Ive had to go elsewhere.
Hello! Since I live in Las Vegas it would not be practical to visit your fitting studio. My question is if I were to get properly fitted locally would you be able to assemble a set of Takomo 201’s and ship them to me?
Yes. Email me with details.
adam@elitefitgolf.com