Nice review...So many reviewers make such a HUGE deal about how much "flex" there is in the lid is on this laptop...And it's fair to point that out, but if it doesn't cause any problems then point it out and then move on, as you did. And as you noted this Laptop meets MIL standards meaning it's tough. Thank you for handling this in a fair and responsible way and for doing such a thorough and balanced review. I wish other reviewers would make note of how you handled this issue. Thanks. You got my like and sub for this review alone.
Today bought LG gram 17 Intel Evo Platform Laptop - 11th Gen Intel Core i7-1195G7 - 2560 x 1600 - 32G - 1TB - Windows 11, McAfee Total Protection, from Costco for $ 1,528.18 delivered. Thanks for the great review.
I bought a gram about 5 years ago and loved it. It was super light, great screen and sound and super light. The issue is that the wifi for some reason stopped working. It could detect the wifi network but would stop connecting to the internet after a while, even after deleting and re-installing the driver. Also, one of the screen hinges broke and, while the screen still worked, the screen was no longer aligned with the body and some wires were sticking out. Wish I could fix it, but not sure where to send it for repair. Am tempted to replace it with another LG Gram like the 17", but I have a feeling the flimsy feel might result in it breaking again, which, for its price range, is a serious consideration.
Agreed. I bought the Gram 17 when it was released in the US at the beginning of 2019 (i7-8565U). I use it with Fedora Workstation, still a great laptop after all these years. Right now I'm looking to replace it and considering a MacBook Pro 16 just because of the audio benefits (I play guitar) and I'm using my SFF iTX that I really only game on (NZXT H1V2, 5600X, 3080) for that right now and would rather use a laptop so I can get dual display only have room for 1 x 27" monitor but I can easily use a 16/17" laptop below it. I know niche asks but I don't want windows on my laptop. Decisions... I could keep using my gaming desktop for audio work but i'd rather just have the laptop pull double dev and audio work and the Mac with it's BSD roots fits my jam. (WSL2 is great but it's not quite good enough for me..). So it's either another Linux laptop or a Mac. Such a hard choice, I guess spoiled by choices though. :) I also agree on the construction / materials angle. The magnesium alloy "seems" plastic-like for sure, but it's extremely durable. My Gram 17 still looks like the day I bought it except for a palm discoloration on the left hand palm area. Though my company-issued 2019 MacBook Pro 16 has the SAME problem, so aluminum uni-body is also susceptible to the same.
If you bought it 5 years ago assuming it's the 2018 model then I would highly recommend upgrading as the materials have greatly improved. You'll spend half as much fixing those issue on your older model.
@@odie5268 Hi! Thank you for your comments. Which colour is your LG? A friend of mine also has the same problem with palm discoloration, because his computer is gray. How would you describe the speakers?
@@user_es1 I typically do not use the speakers on any laptop, including my macbook pros. But they don't even hold a candle to Apple's mastery in this area. They are not great, but that's probably relative to your expectations. I'd classify them in the "use headphones" class of quality.
Excellent review of the LG Gram 17. I just purchased this today direct from LG after checking various reviews and deals. LG itself has the best deal for the week of father's day, $999. I do not need more than 16 ram memory and 1 T of storage. It now has the Intel ARC graphics. Unless you are a developer or serious gamer, this is all anyone needs.
Do you recommend? Costco has it on sale and I'm debating about getting it for school work. Occasionally for other stuff after I'm done with my masters, but main use for school lol
They need to stop pretending 16-inch laptops are a suitable replacement for 17-inch ones. A smaller screen is not an upgrade. Glad LG isn’t following HP and Lenovo’s stupid footsteps.
O fi pentru tine nou, Dan are demult canalul asta. Aici am fost convins de Dan sa-mi cumpar un MSI GE 76 RAIDER DRAGON TIAMAT EDITION , l-am cumparat si il tin bibelou inca .Nu sa inventat laptop mai tare ca Dragon Tiamat .
Its because many computer uers caught up with age and their eyes won't work with smaller screens. Thats the reason for demand and I am one of them as I recently got progressive lense!😜
@Mayank Jain i got it at PcComponentes, an iberian tech store. Don't know if it ships internationally. The model is 17ZD90R (no OS, but got windows 11 key for under 2€ online) Loving the laptops so far
@@joseluislopes3956 Hi, are you still loving it? I’m seriously thinking about buying one, I just wish it was a touchscreen as well. I’ve checked the HP Envy 17.3 inch which is a touchscreen but the weight is 8.15lb, very heavy!
@@p.c.h.6721 Yeah. Still loving it. No issues, fast enough (modern laptop CPUs are seriously impressive), whisper quiet most of the time, almost 10h battery and the screen is hugely (pun intended) helpful for my work Using a touchscreen on a 17" without it being a convertible would be weird IMO, do I don't mind the lack of it. The ergonomics just don't work. It's thin and light, but still takes up space being a 17"
@@joseluislopes3956 Thanks, I agree, probably a 17” that it’s not 2 in 1 would not be practical having to reach all the time across the keypad to touch the screen, I’ve thought of that. The light weight of LG Gram 17 is appealing. Muchas Gracias!
OK NICE REVIEW BUT! Does anyone have a review of the model a year in?! U had the 2016 so HOW DID IT HOLD UP DARN IT, COME ON MAN! I want to buy but i've yet to see anyone tell me about HOW IT HOLDS UP TO some daily sh8t! YA KNOW BANGING CLANGING OPENING HOW ARE THE HINGES AFTER TIME? DOES THE SCREEN WOBBLE IF IT'S ACTUALLY ON "YOUR LAP" damn, ALSO I DID SEE A GRAM WITH A 90wh batt (over the regular 80wh) which is even more time allowed on my mountain, but not sure if that's available everywhere or in USA I can't seem to find it. Have to give u a TD but appreciate the quick review.
Yes. LG knows. I'll tell you who else knows....... anyone over 6 years old who knows how to put "LG Gram", "whatever size you are enquiring about" and "soldered" into Google. I guess you must be six or under. It took me less than 10 seconds to find the answer myself. And no, your laziness doesn't deserve the answer.
@@Saintathantwinpeaks Wow - stunning - guess who posted the answer you found - I guess you are too young or too stupid to look up the name of the person that posted that answer.
I bought one of these because the mouse switches on my old dell wore out. That wouldn't happen here because there's NO SWITCHES. Ok, I can tap, but that only works SOMETIMES. What a nightmare. Currently trying to return it, but Amazon are being VERY difficult! I'd never buy from Amazon again.
Is there a 17” laptop in the market that is touchscreen and very light at the same time? I’ve checked the HP Envy 17” which is a touchscreen, but it weighs 8.15lb
Hey, I found an alternative! Not as light (4 lb vs 3 lb) but with a touchscreen and highly rated. It's the Lenovo Yoga 7i 16" (didn't come in 17"). With similar specs (16 GB RAM, 1 TB SSD, Intel i7 CPU, integrated graphics), the Lenovo was about $600 cheaper. I just ordered mine, straight from Lenovo. Cheers.
You rate brightness at over 400 nits but it is only rated at 350. Also, you measured fan noise at 34 db on high but two other reviewers measured it at 44 db. Lastly, I think you mentioned fingerprint reader? The 2022 model does not have this, at least in the US. I'm confused.
true I see that 44db review as well and that makes me wonder, keyboard flex and keys variable pressure in another review, not the greatest. Screen brightness is an issue for seeing detail on the screen apparently per one reviewer.
I bought it at Costco for $1500. I bought it for the battery life and I only get 3.5 hours. And when it off it bleeds powers. This sucks. Who is getting 10 hours? Or the 19 hours advertised ??
I love this laptop accept the real-life battery life! LG advertise it as up to 19 hours of work. This is a total phantasy. I get pitiful 3.5 hours on average with nothing fancy running on it - just normal office applications, which is the major disappointment.
Reviewers have ingrained to us that heavy means premium. If you come out with a material more durable than metal, reviewers will complain to no end if it’s lighter than metal. Heavy aluminum and stainless laptops and electronics dent like crazy but reviewers will fawn over how heavy and premium they feel. I can’t even use the iPhone 13 Pro comfortably because Apple decided to make it out of super heavy stainless steel instead of aluminum like the lower end iPhones. It’s heavy and cramps my hand.
Too expensive..there are better ones much and much cheaper than this. Years ago this price tag was acceptable but nowadays price like this don't make sense.
The feature you are paying for this is it's lightness, long battery life where you can use it without worrying of power running-out too soon, and some of its cool features.... I guess the pricing is reasonable... Of course there are laptops that are better than LG gram.
I checked out the gram at a Costco last night and it feels like a plastic toy computer. Given the weight and performace specs, I just can't justify buying something for 1000 + that feels like that. Basecailly it feels like the PC parts held together by a plastic box.
I have one and felt the same way til I used it. Amazing and strong period. it may be light but is amazing and stronger than you think. You want a tank for 1200 or a airplane for 1200.
@@no1g8tor08 Iwas gifted a gram laptop from costco for my birthday this weekend. This thing literally feels like a toy lol or something you give to a 5 year old...FYI - my previous laptop weighed really heavy, which I got use to. I think it's going to take some time to get use to a latop that weighs like paper, but so far I like it.
I loved the presentation, balanced, sincere, and informative. This will probably be my BD present to myself this summer.
Nice review...So many reviewers make such a HUGE deal about how much "flex" there is in the lid is on this laptop...And it's fair to point that out, but if it doesn't cause any problems then point it out and then move on, as you did. And as you noted this Laptop meets MIL standards meaning it's tough. Thank you for handling this in a fair and responsible way and for doing such a thorough and balanced review. I wish other reviewers would make note of how you handled this issue. Thanks. You got my like and sub for this review alone.
Just picked up one of these at Best Buy for $999. At that price, it's a steal for what it offers. Thought I would share.
I too bought last week and still waiting for free one month game subscription
How do you like it? I'm looking to upgrade from my 2016 HP Envy 17"...
It’s good but I am not sure about speakers if it’s conflicting with windows drivers. The sound seems to be weak otherwise all good
Great price indeed! Is it convertible or 2 in 1 as they say? If not, what is the convertible model with the 17inch screen? Can you share a link?
Just picked one up from bestbuy for $560 and it's amazing for the price
Great review, you deserve more subscribers. Great job.
Today bought LG gram 17 Intel Evo Platform Laptop - 11th Gen Intel Core i7-1195G7 - 2560 x 1600 - 32G - 1TB - Windows 11, McAfee Total Protection, from Costco for $ 1,528.18 delivered. Thanks for the great review.
Awsome review !! Great job ! Spot on info with zero fluff
Real pro
Just got it today, and it is lovely. Just a beautiful laptop!
It really is! Congrats!
How much ?
Very good review ❤
great video. interested to see how the new '23 compares.
Excelent review Mr.Dan . All the best si ...la mai mare :)
I notice the trackpad is centered on the laptop. With the 10 key, that puts it off center from the keyboard. Does that make it awkward?
I bought a gram about 5 years ago and loved it. It was super light, great screen and sound and super light. The issue is that the wifi for some reason stopped working. It could detect the wifi network but would stop connecting to the internet after a while, even after deleting and re-installing the driver. Also, one of the screen hinges broke and, while the screen still worked, the screen was no longer aligned with the body and some wires were sticking out. Wish I could fix it, but not sure where to send it for repair. Am tempted to replace it with another LG Gram like the 17", but I have a feeling the flimsy feel might result in it breaking again, which, for its price range, is a serious consideration.
Agreed. I bought the Gram 17 when it was released in the US at the beginning of 2019 (i7-8565U). I use it with Fedora Workstation, still a great laptop after all these years. Right now I'm looking to replace it and considering a MacBook Pro 16 just because of the audio benefits (I play guitar) and I'm using my SFF iTX that I really only game on (NZXT H1V2, 5600X, 3080) for that right now and would rather use a laptop so I can get dual display only have room for 1 x 27" monitor but I can easily use a 16/17" laptop below it. I know niche asks but I don't want windows on my laptop. Decisions... I could keep using my gaming desktop for audio work but i'd rather just have the laptop pull double dev and audio work and the Mac with it's BSD roots fits my jam. (WSL2 is great but it's not quite good enough for me..). So it's either another Linux laptop or a Mac. Such a hard choice, I guess spoiled by choices though. :)
I also agree on the construction / materials angle. The magnesium alloy "seems" plastic-like for sure, but it's extremely durable. My Gram 17 still looks like the day I bought it except for a palm discoloration on the left hand palm area. Though my company-issued 2019 MacBook Pro 16 has the SAME problem, so aluminum uni-body is also susceptible to the same.
If you bought it 5 years ago assuming it's the 2018 model then I would highly recommend upgrading as the materials have greatly improved. You'll spend half as much fixing those issue on your older model.
@@odie5268 Hi! Thank you for your comments. Which colour is your LG? A friend of mine also has the same problem with palm discoloration, because his computer is gray. How would you describe the speakers?
@@user_es1 I typically do not use the speakers on any laptop, including my macbook pros. But they don't even hold a candle to Apple's mastery in this area. They are not great, but that's probably relative to your expectations. I'd classify them in the "use headphones" class of quality.
@@odie5268 Thank you!
Very informative video. Thanks!
Does the laptop display shake while typing?
Excellent review of the LG Gram 17. I just purchased this today direct from LG after checking various reviews and deals. LG itself has the best deal for the week of father's day, $999. I do not need more than 16 ram memory and 1 T of storage. It now has the Intel ARC graphics. Unless you are a developer or serious gamer, this is all anyone needs.
just bought one for 1399, liking it so far. Lets see how it does long term road test, especially with the construction.
6 months later, how is it going? =)
@@kaxias flawless so far
Do you recommend? Costco has it on sale and I'm debating about getting it for school work. Occasionally for other stuff after I'm done with my masters, but main use for school lol
@@jgz919omg, I’m also thinking of getting one. Did you get one, and if so, how are you liking it?
They need to stop pretending 16-inch laptops are a suitable replacement for 17-inch ones. A smaller screen is not an upgrade. Glad LG isn’t following HP and Lenovo’s stupid footsteps.
For me I will never buy a laptop below 15.6 inches... 🤗
Is it available with Nordic keyboard layout
(å, ä, ö etc)?
Oo, canal nou. Felicitări si la mai mare!
O fi pentru tine nou, Dan are demult canalul asta.
Aici am fost convins de Dan sa-mi cumpar un MSI GE 76 RAIDER DRAGON TIAMAT EDITION , l-am cumparat si il tin bibelou inca .Nu sa inventat laptop mai tare ca Dragon Tiamat .
i bought one yesterday. got it at half the price cause it was a display unit. l love it.
I would buy it if not for the huge keyboard flex - and I would like one rj45 ethernet port.
I have a question?
Which variant would be sufficient it's 8gb/512gb or 16gb/512?
16gb variant is little more costlier here as compare to 8gb one...
16
you do not want 8Gb in 2022/23. 16Gb is now standard, and power users want 32gb.
16 for sure
no touch screen？
Does the material it feel cheap?
I would guess anyone after a 17" laptop would not be prioritising weight and portability?
Not exactly, but it’s not aliminum, it’s magnesium, and for some it may feel like plastic.
@TechniQualities Thanks for getting back! 👍
This is the kind of laptop I will buy if it powers on! Just to nit pick though, I expect 5G Cellular in newer laptops
Its because many computer uers caught up with age and their eyes won't work with smaller screens. Thats the reason for demand and I am one of them as I recently got progressive lense!😜
Doubt it
I've been hearing that it is not very useful for data processing and I am getting discouraged!
Waiting delivery on mine with the updates processors. Got it for €1399 - i7 1360P 16GB/512GB
@Mayank Jain i got it at PcComponentes, an iberian tech store. Don't know if it ships internationally. The model is 17ZD90R (no OS, but got windows 11 key for under 2€ online)
Loving the laptops so far
@@joseluislopes3956
Hi, are you still loving it? I’m seriously thinking about buying one, I just wish it was a touchscreen as well.
I’ve checked the HP Envy 17.3 inch which is a touchscreen but the weight is 8.15lb, very heavy!
@@p.c.h.6721 Yeah. Still loving it. No issues, fast enough (modern laptop CPUs are seriously impressive), whisper quiet most of the time, almost 10h battery and the screen is hugely (pun intended) helpful for my work
Using a touchscreen on a 17" without it being a convertible would be weird IMO, do I don't mind the lack of it. The ergonomics just don't work. It's thin and light, but still takes up space being a 17"
@@joseluislopes3956
Thanks, I agree, probably a 17” that it’s not 2 in 1 would not be practical having to reach all the time across the keypad to touch the screen, I’ve thought of that.
The light weight of LG Gram 17 is appealing.
Muchas Gracias!
I got it today about $1000 usd…love it…
Where is hidden the fingerprint reader?
Hidden inside the on button.
Just got mine and l love it.
I did get the 13th gen pro with the GeForce 3050 and dedicated gpu so I could do a little bit of gaming.
OK NICE REVIEW BUT! Does anyone have a review of the model a year in?! U had the 2016 so HOW DID IT HOLD UP DARN IT, COME ON MAN! I want to buy but i've yet to see anyone tell me about HOW IT HOLDS UP TO some daily sh8t! YA KNOW BANGING CLANGING OPENING HOW ARE THE HINGES AFTER TIME? DOES THE SCREEN WOBBLE IF IT'S ACTUALLY ON "YOUR LAP" damn, ALSO I DID SEE A GRAM WITH A 90wh batt (over the regular 80wh) which is even more time allowed on my mountain, but not sure if that's available everywhere or in USA I can't seem to find it. Have to give u a TD but appreciate the quick review.
I absolutely want this for work!
Now gotta find a solution for the price... 🤣
😂😂
Gen 12 i7 on Coscto this weekend for only $1000
Anyone know if the memory, storage or wifi are upgradeable or soldered in place on the 2023 model?
Yes. LG knows. I'll tell you who else knows....... anyone over 6 years old who knows how to put "LG Gram", "whatever size you are enquiring about" and "soldered" into Google. I guess you must be six or under. It took me less than 10 seconds to find the answer myself. And no, your laziness doesn't deserve the answer.
@@Saintathantwinpeaks Wow - stunning - guess who posted the answer you found - I guess you are too young or too stupid to look up the name of the person that posted that answer.
I bought one of these because the mouse switches on my old dell wore out. That wouldn't happen here because there's NO SWITCHES. Ok, I can tap, but that only works SOMETIMES. What a nightmare. Currently trying to return it, but Amazon are being VERY difficult! I'd never buy from Amazon again.
Is there a 17” laptop in the market that is touchscreen and very light at the same time?
I’ve checked the HP Envy 17” which is a touchscreen, but it weighs 8.15lb
The lack of touchscreen is the ONLY thing holding me back from the LG Gram 17".
@@blairpeery481
Same here 👍
Hey, I found an alternative! Not as light (4 lb vs 3 lb) but with a touchscreen and highly rated.
It's the Lenovo Yoga 7i 16" (didn't come in 17"). With similar specs (16 GB RAM, 1 TB SSD, Intel i7 CPU, integrated graphics), the Lenovo was about $600 cheaper. I just ordered mine, straight from Lenovo. Cheers.
@@blairpeery481
Thanks so much! I was checking reviews about this other Lenovo ( Lenovo Thinkpad Fold X1 gen 2)
@@blairpeery481
czcams.com/video/4jsNWzXasXQ/video.html
Found it for a bit less than $950
But I was checking if it’s worth it
You rate brightness at over 400 nits but it is only rated at 350. Also, you measured fan noise at 34 db on high but two other reviewers measured it at 44 db. Lastly, I think you mentioned fingerprint reader? The 2022 model does not have this, at least in the US. I'm confused.
I know right?
You're probably looking at LG Gran 17 reviews from last year. Its not the same model.
true I see that 44db review as well and that makes me wonder, keyboard flex and keys variable pressure in another review, not the greatest. Screen brightness is an issue for seeing detail on the screen apparently per one reviewer.
Is it good for a gamer that’s not serious and just plays games like gta or cyberpunk every now and then
No absolutely not. It not meant for gaming at all. Don't buy it for gaming!
I bought it at Costco for $1500. I bought it for the battery life and I only get 3.5 hours. And when it off it bleeds powers. This sucks. Who is getting 10 hours? Or the 19 hours advertised ??
No touch screen?
There is no lg gram with a 17.3 inch screen.
I love this laptop accept the real-life battery life! LG advertise it as up to 19 hours of work. This is a total phantasy. I get pitiful 3.5 hours on average with nothing fancy running on it - just normal office applications, which is the major disappointment.
I have dropped mine...no damage. try dropping your MacBook Pro or Dell XPS etc. Will dent like a piece of garbage
I dropped my macbook about 10 times already, still works without any issues
Reviewers have ingrained to us that heavy means premium. If you come out with a material more durable than metal, reviewers will complain to no end if it’s lighter than metal. Heavy aluminum and stainless laptops and electronics dent like crazy but reviewers will fawn over how heavy and premium they feel. I can’t even use the iPhone 13 Pro comfortably because Apple decided to make it out of super heavy stainless steel instead of aluminum like the lower end iPhones. It’s heavy and cramps my hand.
@@Nilspferd2 lol
شما که ایرانی هستین. چرا زیرنویس فارسی نمیزاری؟
He is not iranian, but romanian
ad or review
Too expensive..there are better ones much and much cheaper than this. Years ago this price tag was acceptable but nowadays price like this don't make sense.
The feature you are paying for this is it's lightness, long battery life where you can use it without worrying of power running-out too soon, and some of its cool features.... I guess the pricing is reasonable... Of course there are laptops that are better than LG gram.
$999 at Best Buy
But not touch screen or 2 in 1 😢😢
Such a strong accent …
Such a random comment.
battery life battery life battery life battery life battery life battery life battery life battery life battery life battery life ?????????
16hrs usage for a fully-charged battery...
@@santaclaus1711really?
60 hz...meh..350 nits..meh
I checked out the gram at a Costco last night and it feels like a plastic toy computer. Given the weight and performace specs, I just can't justify buying something for 1000 + that feels like that. Basecailly it feels like the PC parts held together by a plastic box.
I have one and felt the same way til I used it. Amazing and strong period. it may be light but is amazing and stronger than you think. You want a tank for 1200 or a airplane for 1200.
@@no1g8tor08 Iwas gifted a gram laptop from costco for my birthday this weekend. This thing literally feels like a toy lol or something you give to a 5 year old...FYI - my previous laptop weighed really heavy, which I got use to. I think it's going to take some time to get use to a latop that weighs like paper, but so far I like it.