Can Two White Parents REALLY have a Black baby?
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- čas přidán 25. 08. 2022
- In this video, Dr. Trish discusses the DNA we inherit from our parents. Can we inherit more DNA from a particular area than our parents? This video also provides an update on Dr. Trish's paternal haplogroup, and Dr. Trish shares what's she's been working on lately.
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They sure can! When the mailman stops by for an extended lunch.😂
No, the couple themselves, can certainly carry some non-Caucasian/European genetics. It's very possible & the mailman isn't sleazy, but remains totally professional!😀
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Remember down in our history mixing was going on with black and white so when they had kids it caught up with them
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Why is it so hard to understand that many white South Africans have black ancestry? It was common in South African history for white men to marry black women because there were few white women in the country.
Yes, absolutely. I have a cousin with blonde hair and blue eyes. Her parents both have dark brown/black hair and brown eyes. Enough so that outsiders would say they look Native American or Eastern European. I've done their genealogy, so yes totally probable she inherited the hair and eye color from her parents.
Oh most definitely that just means both parents had a recessive gene
I think your speculation is probably spot-on. I am a typical white "mutt" American, meaning I have the usual mixture of eastern and western European mix with a few outliers (1% or less African, for example). I also have a family legend of Native American ancestry, with my grandmother having a strong native "look" with the high, pronounced cheek bones. I had a daughter with a Mexican man, with a strong native resemblance. My daughter came out looking a LOT like me feature-wise, with her father's coloring. I've always thought that my recessive native gene (my siblings and I are all blonde and blue or green eyed), or even the faint African gene, must have paired with her father's for her to have her dark skin tone. She's only 50% Mexican but she's as dark as or even darker than many/most full blood Mexicans. Before she was born, I thought that mixed kids would have skin tone somewhere between the two parents. But that is obviously not the case!
I recently saw her movie. She did reconnect with her mother but her brothers never have spoken to her.
I remember hearing about that. I'm glad she reconnected with her mother at the end of her mom's life. Too bad they couldn't have reconnected earlier and too bad her mom never got to know her grandchildren.
I'm 55 and pretty white but all my life my black friends said I look black. They said I had a black body whatever that means! I had one say I looked exactly like her mother but with white skin. So when DNA came along I was very excited to get my results and finally find out how much African I had in me. To my shock I had ZERO African DNA. Not never close, like I was 99% Scandinavian!
Like Brock Lesnar....He always said he was a white man built like a black man 😂.....Brock Lesnar got strong Viking DNA
Look up Lucy and Maria Aylmer. These are twin sisters. One is fair skin, red hair, freckles. The other looks mixed race: black spiral curls and light brown skin. Yet, they are twins. Mother is half Jamaican. Father is white. This seems to be a visually clear example where one child is getting more "white" genes from both parents and the other is getting more "black" genes from both parents.
So, yes, I do believe it's possible to have two people who appear to be of European white ethnicity to have a child that has some African ethnicity features. I wouldn't call it a throw-back gene. I would call it a happy chance of the marvel of genetics. It could be any features that "show up" in a child that aren't in either parent, not just features we associate with ethnicity.
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My daughter has a match that Ancestry says she inherits from both sides, however her father and I don’t match that person. So I am assuming that the small % of DNA that aren’t large enough for the match to match us, together adds up to a detectable match for my daughter? I do share DNA with my husband so I guess it could be possible?
On one of the previous AncestryDNA updates, they changed most of my Ireland component to Scotland, and they now define the Scotland geographic area as including Northern Ireland, the northern third of England, and down into Brittany in France. These geographic areas are not equivalent to nationalities.
Yes. Those lines are so blurred now, it's pretty hard to determine a specific area with any certainty. Thanks for coming by!
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It's certainly an interesting case. South Africa is a place I don't know much about, your theory makes sense to me. This case is also an eye opening study of identity. I would like to understand more about why the family became estranged. Was it because of her choice to change her race? or was it marrying a Black man? Both? I don't think either of those are good reasons for estrangement, btw, but what I do know of South Africa, from Trevor Noah, it might have just been the option due to law?
Certainly would like to see DNA results and more extended family photos for attributes.
Thank you, as always, for sharing. I think what you're doing works. Do what moves you. The rest will follow.
Maybe a collab with the youtuber GeneaVlogger, Jarett Ross? He did a reaction to one of your vids (which is how I found you). He does forensic genealogy professionally.
It's common for white South Africans to have black ancestry. South Africa's racial system would call Sandra as 'coloured,' which is used for mixed-race people.
There really isn't anything that strange about Sandra's appearance. There are many African American families that have children with different skin tones, facial features, and hair texture. This is because African American have about 25% white ancestry.
In white families, you can have two brunette, olive skinned parents have children with pale white skin and red hair.
That case is so interesting. I found it hard to believe. It would have been nice to see DNA results back then. Oh the stories they would tell! But as more people do their own DNA testing, we may see more people who do not look like what their genetic results say. Two black people I can think of: There is a lady ,Mama Dee, here on CZcams who is light skinned and tested 100% African. Another, Megan Moon, did her DNA a few years back and she is 65% African. Look them up if you can. Thanks for sharing!
I would be very interested in seeing Sandra Laing's DNA results if she would take a test today.
Sandra Laing was never considered black, she was considered coloured. The overwhelming majority of Afrikaners have non-European ancestry, I am guessing that includes my father.
Neither of my parents have taken the dna test and it is still able to breakdown the parent percentages.
Thank you for this thoughtful subject. The sad thing is the ideas about throw backs was part of Racist Ideology and the superior race concept. This is different from recessive genes like red hair. It is important to check recent science on the history of human skin colour...pale skin is very recent...our species has spent most of its history with dark skin tones...that's the main human colour. Whatever the sad mystery of that family, I hope the woman who had a darker skin tone and ethnically different features from her parents has been able to have a happier life. There are no Races.
You're 💯 correct, I've been doing some research on skin color and racist ideology.
I find it hard to believe that her Mom did not have an affair. I realize strange things can happen but her hair even looked black and so did her brothers. Weird. If her Mom had an affair you know she would never say. She could go to jail.
They did dna test
That's a possibility too, her so-called father could have been infertile and white women did the same as their men and would sleep with African peoples and indigenous peoples of the world. This is how colored, black and indigenous peoples got European DNA, it's facts guys!
I think mine is very accurate just not completely same background my pt. Grandma is on site and has east Europe and Baltics but I did not get so I'm wondering if my father has .
As my grandmother use to say, there's a dead cat on the line.😅😅😅 The parents probably have a biracial or black person in their emediate family. And nobody talks about it or knew about it. Passé Blanc as we say in Louisiana.
Look at finding Lola very interesting. I would love you to cover the story.
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Could it be possible that one of the parents are part black? Or possibly this couple adopted and didn't tell their children.
They had more kids after her...I believe there was a younger brother that also looked as she did when he was a baby, but grew white looking
My cousin have red hair so my aunt has the trait just wondering her dad our grandpa was light skin and another daughter is light skin, my daughter light skin with long hair to her waist.yes lam dark skin her dad Carmel color. And many children in the family born light change colors late as 17
Although it's very rare, yes, it can certainly happen & shouldn't be fully denied & dismissed. Many may find it very odd, but it's certainly possible.
It all depends upon the Caucasian/European person's full ancestral makeup & if that person, or the couple as individuals carry some African DNA or non-Caucasian/European DNA. Albeit, however far or close (window of resolution) the DNA, those genes can skip many generations (atavistic), but then suddenly present themselves, within the current generation & this applies to a child's physical characteristics, which may well surprise Mum, Dad & extended family.
It happens to countless people of colour, that they have light eyed, fair skinned &/or haired children, so it can also happen to people of Caucasian/European ancestry, albeit, it appears it's much less likely to occur/rarer.
Ya, haplogroup shows a bit of our ancestry that we are so far removed from that it **might** help with tracking down a bit of the family tree, but for laypeople, it tells us nothing more than where a direct maternal or paternal line, which is thousands of years removed. In theory, Irish might not even show up in one's ancestry, and yet the Y-DNA is Irish.
How I've used it to inform myself a bit: I come from a white American family that had the indigenous mythology. One of my mum's cousins, who would be in his 90's, sent a photo to me of two of my maternal 3rd gr grandmothers, saying one was Cherokee, and the other Choctaw. What I can tell you is that my mt-DNA is solidly in NNW Europe, and no indigenous shows up in my mum, who turns 89 this summer; it also doesn't show up amongst any other relatives who have been tested. I'm 99.5% sure that there is no indigenous in our ancestry. What I suspected before seeing all the ethnic DNA results from various family members is that maybe my ancestry was attempting to hide African ancestry. That doesn't seem to be the case. IF, IF there is any indigenous or African DNA in my ancestry, it's way, way back there, and random inheritance has rendered it invisible, not detectable with current technology.
It is interesting. If we can accept that Vanessa Williams has blue eyes, light skin thrown back to many generations before - even though she’s mostly African, the opposite can be true too. Phenotype does not equal genotype.
Great commentary
I have noticed a lot of us black people aka indigenous Indians (African Americans) have some red hair in our families
My family have Choctaw and Cherokee blood
My real hair color is reddish brown
I use to think the red coloring came from those genes ??? However now I think it could be Irish ??
Your family is beautiful 😍
We are all mixed up 😂
Thank you for sharing ❤
Irish, Native Americans and Africans were all enslaved and at times worked side by side in the fields. Black men married or had relationships with Irish women, African women were often violated from all races of men so that's where all of our mixtures come from. African Americans basically we are our own or new ethnic group. We are not African people anymore, we are not true indigenous to the Americas and we are certainly not Irish but mixtures of all of these groups producing African Americans. We have distinct identifying features (no matter skin color), voice sounds and mannerisms that I can often times identify African American as opposed to someone from the islands, Nigeria or Africa. We are just damn beautiful people in my opinion
This is very possible! I identify as Sicilian. Yet, I have 12% North African and 1% Senegal because of these aspects of my DNA.
I was elated when I found this out because I always felt Black women are prettier and, for some reason, never really trusted people with really, really white skin. I know that sounds really weird, but as far back as I can remember, I've felt that way.
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23&Me actually tests for M222 which is the one related to Niall of the Nine Hostages however they erroneously give Niall of the Nine Hostages to all M269 which is very far back and not the Niall of the Nine Hostages haplotype and not even Irish. To get a more accurate ydna result people should do further testing at FTDNA. If your brother tested at 23&Me and only got M269 he would need further testing but he isn't M222 because they test for that.
I just watched your video and in my humble opinion, I do think Sandra Laing’s parents are her parents. There is an interesting story about Anthony Ekundayo Lennon. He had white parents, but had African presenting features, especially his skin color and hair texture. He discovered through his dna results that he had 32% sub Saharan African ancestry.
People need to stop hiding what's in their family tree! As we know beautiful South African women and just about every African women in general were and still is sexually exploited by men of other races and maybe some produce real loving feelings for each other and sometimes but very rare a white man will step up to the plate and take in his black children or mixed race children and raise them or pass them on as white. We know this has happened many times here during slavery times in the States! It was done in Brazil, we know the Portuguese royal family has a black Brazilian lineage, Russians too. Black is beautiful, we know this. This lady definitely has indigenous South African blood and there could be black ancestors way down in the family tree that may have been able to pass but genes are real tricky and can come back to reveal the Truth!😅 21:09
I just want to explain when I say "white" in my last comment that means European. We have "white" black people if that makes sense.
I am NO expert but in University I took genetics for my degree. We learned about phenotype which is the physical expression of genes and the genotype which is coding for the genes. They can be different....I tried to look it up to understand more because it is more complex than what i'm saying. But the 2 can be different....showing certain physical traits compared to the genotype.
I watched the documentary and both parents have African ancestry. It was a recessive dna gene that popped up. May with both their dna's combined made the recessive gene more dominant. It happens with mixed race twins as well. With two Black parents or two Latin parents having both African and European dna can have one Black twin and one White twin. Sometimes the children don't like either parent, making paternity look very questionable.
In a non-racist world, no one would care because her features would be just inheritance from her parents' ancestors.
My daughter and I did our DNA. I'm only 16 percent Irish. She's 50 percent Irish. More so than the father or I. Heck, she's more Irish than most Americans with Irish names! 😂 Just the same as 2 siblings DNA would be different as the 50 percent they get from each parent is different.
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My son and granddaughter have fair skin (look white), have blond hair, and she has slate gray eyes. My ex-husband and I are both multiracial. His father had blue/gray eyes.
There is a family in America who have confirmed through DNA, the biracial looking child do have 2 white looking parents.
I met a woman who looked totally White and she showed me pics of her family. Her father and sisters looked African and her mother was White. This was the late 70"s before DNA testing.
DNA is so fascinating.
This is different though. Two white people with very white features and no known African ancestry are very unlikely to produce a child that looks 50% African. The situation you’re describing happened in the diaspora. Jamaicans, African Americans etc can have significant white ancestry so a biracial child is going to have more European ancestry than white.
This is two very white people with half black kids. I just don’t see how they had black children. -Totally different from a white woman and black man having kids. Their kids can be any color, eye color and hair type.
@@LifewithDrTrishVarner My homie has a family of 5 boys and a girl the boys all look exactly like the father a jet black man the mother is the color of Debbie Allen. The youngest boy Wesley Snipes two middle El Debarge down to the hair oldest Maxwell. If not for the uncanny resemblance to the father I would wonder.
*Anthony Ekundayo Lennon (born in England if not mistaken)) "In fact, he isn’t black at all, but entirely Caucasian - the blue-eyed son of pale-skinned Irish parents, whose own parents, grandparents and great-grandparents were also white." Anthony, accused of committing fraud for applying for accepting a grant intended for people of color. His family's situation was strained. Anthony went with the group (blacks) that was most receptive of him. Everyone knew his family's history. Reported on in The Daily Mail, November 2018. So, that's two families that has experienced "throwback" occurrences due to atavism.
Most African American men have a European haplogroups unless they’re Gullah
YES! *"Her parents (Sandra Laing's) managed to reclassify her as white, taking blood tests to prove she was their child" (*as reported on in the New York Times, 2000). There is a movie based on her life Skin 2008. I googled this information....
When this does happen to families it's not a pleasant surprise family nor the children, unfortunately.
On Reddit, there is this Puerto Rican guy who looks Black no question about that. But he is 21% African! 65% European and the rest Native American. Soooooo shocking although I understand phenotype doesn't have to match genotype. The funny thing he is right about the average amount of African ancestry for a Puerto Rican but he looks, Black not mixed. Skin color like Sandra Laing. I have seen it more in Afro-Latinas who appear "Black" but don't have much African. There is another Afro-Latina( Dominican) she was only 35% but she looked like a typical Black American. On Reddit again there was this white Brazilian man who looks like Ashton Kutcher somewhat and he was like 28% African.
As far as Sandra Laing, I think the parents are just mixed- in America, they would be black people passing especially the father. I know they said their parents- parents were white but no way they were 100% European - probably very mixed and not just African but with Asian DNA too. In South Africa, the racial classifications work a little bit differently where if you look white, but was colored, you can claim white. So that Puerto Rican man that looks black that I mentioned would be coloured in South Africa - and that white Brazilian man would be white despite the Puerto Rican being more European and less African.
I believe there must have been an affair. I could be wrong. The daughter looks too black. Now I have a grand with very white skin….not light but white. My daughter is light skin…not white and father is brown. Question is can two black people have a white child. Her hair grade is at this time straighter than parents. DNA test says she is his?????
If that's your granddaughter in your profile picture, she is absolutely adorable.
Yes….little red cheeks…she visited a month ago.
Black women can have children from snow white to blue-black and two dark parents can have light skin children. No other race can do this. Most mixed children of recently mixed heritage with a white mother/father come out light skin. That little girl looks nothing like her father or her mother. The girl may have been adopted as well as her brother and the parents may have covered it up. The only way to know for sure is a DNA text.
Your granddaughter looks black, I don't think there is a need to question anything.