What?! My Dad isn't Black?? Revealing my Dad's and Husband's Surprising Y-DNA Haplogroups
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- čas přidán 19. 08. 2021
- We used the raw data from my husband's and my dad's Ancestry DNA results to determine their Y-DNA haplogroups. We used the Morley DNA project to predict their Y-DNA haplogroups. My husband and dad were shocked by their results.
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“Human beings are complicated “. Exactly. Great content, thank you for sharing.
This is a great interpretation. I am an American male of British and Scottish descent. Your father and myself carry the same y chromosome. I've been tested years ago. I have known for a long time that many African American men carry the same European lineage from the British Isles. We should all celebrate our varied genetic and cultural heritages, as they are much, much older than our short era of history here in America. Greetings to another descendant of the indigenous people of the British Isles. 💙
I love your channel! I also do a lot of genealogy. I agree - one thing I have learned is that history is very complicated and uncomfortable at times. It’s important to learn from our past so we can be better in the future. I hope you are able to find out more and break down some more brick walls!
You are right on point, enjoyed your video!
I love your content!❤️🥰❤️ thank you🙏🏾
Dr. Varner, one eighth of my family on my father's side dates back to the early 17th century in North America, and were slave owners. I'll be happy to pass on last names, or my Ancestry profile. One of those names is Scott, and they are from Virginia. Unfortunately there are no living males directly related to me, but I do know there are a lot of far cousins, given their colonizer bragging. My own testing came back Irish/Germanic with ad-mix from all over east and south asia, and a bit from indigenous South America. I have done CRI Genetics, and My Heritage tests, and have Ancestry and 23 & Me sitting here waiting for me to not drink water for 30 minutes to spit a whole lot. President Lyndon B. Johnson once said, "If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."
I also have an ancestry line with the surname Scott. I’ve been thinking about trying out CRI Genetics. How was your experience with them?
@@LifewithDrTrishVarner I used CRI because of their privacy policy in the beginning, it was my first one, and looking just now I see they've updated some information. I found it interesting, and the only surprises were the asian ad-mix and possibly opening a dead end on a great grandmother who may have been italian. Their broad map also colored Bulgaria, and the recent analysis says 10.5 Slav, but advanced analysis doesn't mention it at all. Given my haplo group is U5, this suggests it's from the Celt migration across Europe, or as far back as the neolithic. I did not upgrade at the time to see family trees or look for relatives. They gave me a lot of information, but were not very specific about migration patterns. For example, I know most of my recent ancestors came from Ireland between the Great Hunger and the late 19th century, with one grandfather coming from Norway after WW1. They give you a time line that traces back some ancestors 15 - 20 generations. Interesting, but no mention of the Danish/Saxon/Viking invasions and assimilation into Ireland, England and France. Which to me screams that's where the germanic comes from. They've been spamming me to upgrade, but I'm going to finish the Ancestry and 23 & Me tests first, do the comparisons and then decide. Ancestry is another forever hammering me for more money, but I have found some far cousins through them which included some surname spelling variations, really common for immigrants. The Scott line goes back to James McClure Scott MD (3rd great grandfather) born in 1760, and lived in Albemarle Co VA, and Spottsylvania Co VA where the family settled for a few generations and owned enslaved people. After the Civil War, several of the sons moved away, with my great grandfather settling in Galveston TX, which is my direct line. My Heritage seems to be popular in Europe, and has sent me many dna matches with names attached and common place names, which was included in the original price. I did find some of people of Indian/South Asian decent from there. It might also be worth looking into.
Hello fellow Celt! I also share the same scots-Irish haplogroup as your dad!
When looking at the slave owners you might want to see who the white Foreman was that worked for him . I've seen videos where that's who turned out to be the father.
People also forget that mixed race children born by white women during slavery were freed, therefore most descendants of free people of color will have a different haplog group too, my family is descendants of free people of color and I was shocked to have a northern African/Levant haplog group.
@@mikalyonsoneal9890i also have a north african Lavantine group and im an African
Great video your so right every person on this planet has both a slave and a king in their ancestry. Also it would be so interesting to find out your maternal haplogroup too the maternal haplogroup is often overlooked.
Very interesting!
It's really interesting that your father and I have an ancient paternal ancestor in common. I'm also R1b and my dad is Northern Irish from Belfast, I got 100% european on 23 and me.
Good info. I was humbled greatly, when I seen my paternal haplogroup is R-M269. 😂
I have two ancestors who fought in the colored infantry. I ordered copies of the pension records which included depositions, letters and other information.
That’s cool. 😊
Your paternal grandmother Roberta and my paternal grandmother Helen are sisters. I have researched the Galbreath and Bruner lines as far back as I can. I'm also related on the Galbreath line. My paternal great-grandmother was a Galbreath. Very interesting video. Also, we have ancestors on a different branch than the two I mentioned that had red hair.
Hi Cousin! Are you on Ancestry.com? We should compare notes.
@@LifewithDrTrishVarner Yes, sounds good! If you go to your DNA cousin list I should be on there. You are on my list. Thanks
My father has the same Y haplo group as yours. But we do not know his biological father and I did not see any of those surnames in our genetic matches. My father has white skin, but he did have a small amount of African DNA. It did not pass on to me. We have mostly Scottish ancestry, no red hair. I have wondered how some Americans that came from slavery turned "white" and some "black"? How did that happen? Who got to choose?
At least 35% Pre Civil War Black American Population Male Descendants have European origined Y haplogroups and even 8% of Pre Civil War Black American Population Descendants have European origined maternal haplogroups.
For example, Henry Louis Gates has European origined maternal and paternal haplogroups and we know he's black.
The thing is most of the time, Black men who have Y haplogroups of European origin tends have slavery as the origin of it whereas European origined maternal haplogroups most of the time comes from Free People of Color Lineage. I know you probably know all this but it's cool to know because it shows how fascinating our history is.
Yes. I agree. I read the same info. The only difference is in my research, I read that about 5% of the Black American population has a European maternal haplogroup. I’m sure that number can vary depending upon the study. I do also agree that European Y DNA is normally due to slavery and European mitochondrial DNA normally happens in cases of free Blacks. We do indeed have an interesting history. Thanks for coming by to comment.
@@LifewithDrTrishVarner what I found interesting about my haplogroup ( Y DNA) , is that why it is African it's not the typical E1b1a marker like E-U290 or E-P252 or whatever. Mine is E-M85, which is the same as E2b1.
@@LifewithDrTrishVarner
Interesting. Similar in my family.
Cool. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Wow 😮 my maternal great grandmothers maiden name is Carney never thought it was Irish ☘️ even though Irish dna is present .... at the time of Cromwell it was about a land grab in Ireland for the English crown hence the dispersion of the native Irish to the Caribbean namely Montserrat and Barbados mainly and later to Australia that penal colony ...👀 .... loving your channel 🤎
Great job as always. Excellent explanations. I was just thinking about Gone With the wind and Scarlett O’Hara. Certainly that is an Irish name. We acknowledge that the Irish were treated brutally in England and America. Many were forced or sold into servitude. However, that doesn’t mean that they couldn’t eventually become slave owners. Many of them did. Even native Americans became slave owners. I understand there may have been free blacks who were slave owners. Everyone took advantage because it was legal and was allowed.
Amen. Servitude and slavery had long been a form of trade that was legal, accepted in many parts of the world at various points in history. Many peoples have been both enslaved or owner of the enslaved. It is a part of us then and now in its various forms.
Mine is I-P37. I wonder what my father would of thought of his apparent Eastern European ancestry. I initially used the Morley predictor and I have also taken 23andMe along with the FamilyTreeDNA Y-DNA Y111 and AncestryDNA.
Did all the testing companies show the same Y-DNA haplogroup? Thank you for sharing.
@@LifewithDrTrishVarner 23andMe me told me I-S17250.
Is that Kora music at the end? Beautiful. The Irish historian Liam Hogan has done extensive work of the Myth of Irish Slavery and how people use/misuse it. Do check out his research
Or maybe it's banjo music.... 🤔
Thanks for the comment! The song used in that video is called Streams of Africa by Sahara Skylight. I downloaded it from Epidemic Sound.
Due to having an R1b1a haplogroup and (as you mentioned it meant that our fathers, fathers, fathers fathers line came from Europe and not Africa)......
So that being said, does this mean that the haplogroup simply states a location of their existence at a particular time?
Because my results (uploaded into MyTrueAnceestry) stated that my family line is E1B1A yet mine in particular was R-CTS4065 (R1b1a1b1a1a2a1a1a2)?
When you say your family line is E1B1A but your own is R1b1a do you mean your cousin's, maternal uncles, half sibling etc... have E1B1A?
Hypodescent:the classifying or identifying of a biracial or multiracial individual as a member of the lower or lowest socially ranking racial group from which that person has ancestry. Hypodescent rules have been used in the US historically.
Hyperdescent:the classifying or identifying of a biracial or multiracial individual as a member of the higher or highest socially ranking racial group from which that person has ancestry. Hyperdescent rules are common in Latin America. Many people who would be Black in the US, are Branco(white) in Brazil.
Other methods of assigning group membership are patrilinial, matrilinial, and cognatic. Family names in the US are typically patrilinial.
Clan membership in Navajo society is matrilinial.
Cognatic, I don't really understand this one. It seems to be more complicated than the others.
MorelyDNA is really good. It predicted my Y DNA before I tested with 23andme. My Y DNA is E-U290 which is definitely from Africa. It's considered a "slave marker" in other words, it's very common for those who's ancestors were brought from the Trans Atlantic Slave Trade.
I took 23andme to find out my MT-DNA and it's L3D1-5 which is also African. Because one of my paternal aunts also took 23andme, I found out that my paternal grandmother's maternal haplogroup is L1C1B so that was a bonus too.
That’s awesome! My mother just took the 23andme test so I’m looking forward to finding out my maternal haplogroup. I really would love to find out my dad’s maternal haplogroup too. I’m going to have to look into that.
@@LifewithDrTrishVarner I personally would love to know my maternal grandfather's haplogroups but I haven't found a relative who has the paternal lineage of my grandfather to know that.
Another reason why I did 23andme is that I'm the only one of my male cousins that still have this paternal haplogroup, the rest have their father's haplogroups. My dad and two uncles of course has this haplogroup but I don't have any children so I'm the last one of this line. it's kinda sad to think about to be honest but I'm not trying to have children just for that. LOL. Great video. love your channel.
@@curtiswilliams8285 You could trace your grandfathers line back and those lines back down to see if there is a male descendant on 23andme or FTDNA who has their Y-DNA reported. It is a longshot but it might work.
What happens when you got European haplogroups and mitochondrial DNA ?
That's not shocking considering the fact that all local populations in the Americas Y chromosome has a link to Europeans, especially in Puerto Rico. We know that Puerto Ricans have Taino Indian DNA, but it's mainly mitochondrial DNA.. The y-chromosome haplogroup is almost entirely European, specifically from Spain... That's because when Spaniards discovered the island of Puerto Rico, they immediately genocided the male Tainos
My dad has a Y- European paternal group. But I knew it without taking a test.
Im R1b and black!
Sorry mate you're still a West/Central African.
I'm not sure , but if I'm following u correctly, you're saying that that 35% of African Americans here in the USA are genetically European?
I feel like I relate more to African Americans than Africans I'm a black African and my Haplogroup is not native to Africa I haven't done a DNA test yet but alot of people have done did a DNA test on 23 and Me got T-208 when the majority is e1b1b when I get tested and it comes back as T then I guess I'm just black not African and your right about your father and husband being black I've also lived most of my life as a black man that's not gonna change how I'm perceived is how I identify myself idc what some test says and black and I'm proud ✊🏾
What about possibility of some connection to Poland through Haiti, is there any? Anyway, it's an interesting example of complex history, more on that here:
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Hi there. Interesting video. However, my husband doesn’t have a connection to Haiti. His mom is from the Bahamas but has no Polish ancestry. The Polish ancestry came from his dad who isn’t from any of the islands.
Wow. Yeah my father is a european haplogroup on the "y". Were black. Wild
Yup mine is 100% Portuguese…. Hell I’m black as coal🤣
My paternal Haplogroup is RL21 which is Celtic. But I already knew my dad’s direct line went back to a white slave owner. His son who is my 3x great grandfather was a slave who was allowed to make and sell liquor for his own money. Then after slavery the owner sold him land at a discount rate. My dad’s paternal grandma has the same kind of history. My great uncle’s wife had two kids by white men in the 1950/60s but that’s because she cheated on my uncle. He wasn’t upset because he had been cheating on her and had outside kids. They stayed married until they died and raised all the kids. Also if your husband’s grandma had a baby at like 14 she was likely forced or taken advantage of. That might be why no one likes to talk about it.
I think her age might have a lot to do with it too. I just don’t understand how she had another child with the same man 5 years later.
@@LifewithDrTrishVarner likely because she was probably viewed as less than for marriage because she had a child already which she fully recognized as her own and also money, what if the father was supporting in a way and he had some hold on her which forced her back into an intimate relationship. There were very few options for women back then.
During those years black women had no protection from sexual assault at all.
Greetings from Poland, your husband should know the history of blacks Polish Haitians is a fascinating story you can easily find it on Wikipedia. It is possible that his ancestor was from Haiti
My Y chromosome is African origin from the tsogo, ateke, and kota people in Gabon. My maternal is from Bamileke people living in Cameroon. My mtDNA and Y chromosome is African origin. A lot of my enslaved ancestors were from South Carolina and a lot from the low country. I know about one biracial ancestor from my fathers mother side. But she was my great great great grandmother. And I barely received any of her dna because of the strong African ancestry that runs in my family. I’m Bantu!
As r1b is from yamnaya tribe and they once went africa or its northern part.
I've read that people in Chad or some where in central African where dark skin black Africans have a European haplotype due to a back migration of Eurasians to Africa maybe 8-10,000 years ago . Some Africans have Jewish or levitate haplotype because there are some black Jews middle eastern Jews who went deep into Africa and married with local women it shows up in some uroba people more so in Ethiopia and Sudan . But If your American it's a 50/50 chance it's from slavery days
I was shocked to discover that my family has the northern Africa/Levant haplop group because I am American.
It wasn’t a back migration. Africans conquered and took wives of those in west Europe
R1b1 is also very common in Chad 🇹🇩
European R1b does occur in significant numbers in some African populations, although they resulted from European migration into Africa at various points in history. People in Cameroon have a very old original European line of R1b that has been determined to have entered Africa far longer ago in history than what was once assumed. It's fascinating stuff and complicated as genetic history becomes more and more complex the closer we look at the details🙏
@@johnlomax2502 This is true. I know a girl from almost the same region as me in Congo and she has R1b1. I also have a nilo saharan MTdna who is apparently linked to a “back migration into africa” (L3b1a). This is very intresting.
I feel sorry for your poor dad!
It is what it is. No need to feel sorry. At least 1/3 of all Black American men are in the same boat. Even if they don’t have a direct paternal line from outside of Africa, the majority of Black people in America has European ancestry. That’s just our reality, and we can’t re-write the past.
R m 420(or R1A1A1B1*)is my y dna
Black people used to ruled Europe
When?
@@AmandaFromWisconsin Before the Slavic or Caucasian people came and ran them up on out of there.
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That video is for the person who asked when were people of color rulers of Europe. This is part 3 but if you search his channel, you will find the first two parts.
@@truthoverfictionii5760 shalom sister. Facts
8:51 That "senator" looks exactly like John Wayne Gacy, the infamous serial killer who used to dress up as a clown. They must be related, they look way too much alike. And considering what that "senator" did to that woman, they also have criminal tendencies in common.
I am Haplogroup G and will be having further testing done to get the full subset information.
You are referring to Y-DNA G. That is a common marker in Neolithic Europeans, Otzi the Iceman found in the Italian Alps was Y DNA G2 if I remember correctly.
Race (black or white) is a European construct to segregate men and women into biased classifications, in order to uphold their illusion of superioriority over the majority of the world of darker hue. It has nothing to do with DNA. Black is not a nationality, its a racial identifier primarily used in the USA, it describes an American experience. Most other nations go by your nation of origin. In Africa they identify by tribes even though they call themselves black. Haplogroups are ancient DNA markers that trace back thousands of years and only for two lines of your entire genome. In other words, only your moms and your dads direct line not each line inbetween.
I agree in part. However, many people think the Black experience is exclusive to the United States. That’s not true though. I recently featured a story from a woman who is from the UK, and many of her experiences are similar. I will be interviewing her soon. I have heard of Black people in many different countries with some similar experiences. Race issues are not exclusive to the United States.
Thousands years ago, Romans enslaved eastern europeans, celts, and even other latin peoples. My comment is just to contribuite to general knowledge, not yo justify the slavery. Slavery was wrong in any mean and in any phase of history, wether is ancient, modern or conterporary.
You are part white
My results show as 76% African and 24% European, which is typical for the majority of Black Americans. About 30% of Black Americans have European Y DNA haplogroups.
Most Americans are mixed
Most White Americans are not mixed race. Most Black Americans are though. I did a separate video that addresses that topic.
I believe this to be true, I am 75% African and 25% European. To me it means Black Slave women were raped at a high rate.
No Most Brazilians are mixed not Americans tho'...
I am not mixed with anything but African and African. You cannot go off a little percentage and say you are mixed with a drop of European because of the slave masters. My mama black and my daddy black. Both African and so were their grandparents and their parents and their parents and their parents. A lot of my family were from South Carolina, a lot of them the Low Countries. So my ancestors were isolated on the rice plantations.
@@israeliteking1761 What was you DNA composition when you got tested?