Law Enforcement Terrorizes Civilians of San Patricio, NM - July 3, 1878
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In this episode about Billy the Kid and the Lincoln County War, we discuss the activities of "law enforcement", who was aligned with the corporate interests of the Murphy & Dolan Company and the Santa Fe ring by using tactics of fear, power and intimidation against the civilian community of San Patricio.
These videos are doing a lot to convince me why the US has such a cultural place for firearms ownership and it is starting to make sense to me.
We are a frontier people.
@@jayteegamble Which makes sense given the problematic authorities that have seemingly plagued the US from it's earliest days right up to the modern day.
(Btw, I'm from the UK where the Government is trying to ban peaceful protest. I am *not* trying to claim any Holier Than Thou status).
@@Vilamus I appreciate that distinction. The argument that it's okay for freedoms to be curtailed in respect to firearms, because a person believes they are not under threat from individuals or governments and they presume nobody in their country will ever be, is surprisingly common rhetoric.
I think few people living in Western Europe have any concept of just how sparsely populated the American West was and is. I did a quick, back-of-the-envelope estimate one time, and in Gila County, Arizona, each law enforcement officer (Sheriff's officer in the Patrol branch) needs to patrol approximately 100 square miles (260 square kilometers) of area on average. Of course, they tend to be on patrol closer to towns, so if you're out in the boonies they're even sparser. As a result, any kind of law enforcement response may well be hours or even a full day away. If you're confronted by someone intending to do you harm, you're more or less on your own. Owning a gun is a sensible and prudent measure if you live out there. (Not to mention the other uses of a gun as a working tool, such as pest control, hunting, and defense against rabid animals.)
The flip side is that many people who live out there cannot imagine how dangerous a gun is in a densely populated area. The least powerful commonly used round, .22 Long Rifle, fired from a pistol will penetrate 6 sheets of gypsum wallboard. Fired in an apartment building that will go through three interior walls. 00 buckshot from a shotgun will penetrate 8 sheets, or four interior walls. More powerful rounds will go even farther, of course. A missed shot is highly likely to penetrate to someone else's apartment. Unless you're using very expensive, specialty ammunition, you're likely to unintentionally endanger someone else in the same building. A gun is neither a practical self-defense measure nor a useful tool in such an environment, and owning one as anything other than a collector's item or decoration is neither prudent nor sensible.
Both sides need to gain some perspective on how others live, and come to some understanding of each others needs.
@@jordanwalsh1691 I'm not gonna lie, I fell for the "what use is an AR against a tank" argument but it is wearing thin for sure.
Heck, California has big restrictions on gun rights to disarm the Black Panthers afterall.
Judge a man by his character, not by the title he has. Just because they were law enforcement doesn’t mean they were good. One man’s freedom fighter is another’s criminal/terrorist/enemy.
this film is dedicated to the brave mujahideen fighters of afghanistan
@@KoruGo what movie was that? Sounds familiar.
@@soylentgreen7074 Isn't it the Rambo film in Afghanistan?
@Soylent Green: The Beast?
@@KoruGo ...who fight in the same spirit as the Partisans of WW2 who rose up against "their" fascist invaders....
I'd like to suggest a video about the Vigilantes in Bannack, MT. The ghost town is still there. In the 1860s over 100 miners were robbed and murdered by an elusive gang in a 6 month period. Turns out it was the sheriff and his deputies. People rose up and hanged them.
That does sound like an interesting story. It always amazed me how many mines and the like in the US seemed to have massacres. Other than the famous Eureka Stockade I'm not familiar with many incidents in Australia during that time
@@XLesky Supposedly people were getting up to 1.5lbs of gold per wheel barrel of ore initially, so crazy mounts of money was to be had and the US military was all tied up in the Civil War in the eastern US. Only a few roads in or out of town. People who survived robbery attempts often reported the details to........the sheriff, so he knew exactly who witnessed what and needed to be "taken care of." So many travelers were killed that some people even tragically hired deputies to escort them out of town, an often fatal mistake. His gang also controlled the stage coach lines in and out. Once people wised up they hunted them down and hanged something like 20-30 in a two week period, even using a cannon to dislodge one deputy from his cabin. Lord of the Flies stuff. Crazy times!
@@XLesky There was the incident in 1857 at Lambing Flats that might be considered relevant.
“Vigilante Days and Ways” by N. P. Langford is a great starting point on researching the Plummer Gang and the history of Virginia City, Alder Gulch and Bannock
@@jakecryder1471 A copy from Amazon just arrived. Can't wait to read it. Thanks for the recommendation! My son and I both love reading about the old west.
Old West Vignettes are some of my favorite content these days.
as a Mexican, I really enjoy learning about this facts of the USA history
Me an other Mexican I'm glad I'm not alone
Sadly most Americans don't even learn about this
@@the-potato-warrior Thank you for spreading knowledge of your -eh, preferences?
@@the-potato-warrior okay you go first
@@the-potato-warrior oh would you please just stfu with dreary politics bs
Huh. So old fashioned civil forfeiture? The nice thing about history is it teaches important lessons useful in the modern day.
I can only pray for non toxic responses to this video.
Thank you again for making videos on these topics Karl.
@@weege5.45 Be that as it may I merely said that I hope that none crop up as I'm aware it can be a hassle to deal with at times.
@@weege5.45 That's quite hilarious.
Billy's handwriting looked like calligraphy and his written content was equally erudite. Hopefully his letters are still on display in one of the historic Lincoln museums. The modern concept of outlaw slob cowboy is far from the truth.
Karl, thank you for making it to Lincoln County when I cannot. I really appreciate it very much.
If one looks at letters written in that era you find that a lot of correspondence was much more literate than what we find today. I shudder think what will be considered proper grammar in 50 or 60 years time.
He was bilingual, too.
Copies of Billy's letters are in the Lincoln County Courthouse Museum. I was lucky enough to visit the courthouse without anyone else and had plenty of time to read and photo everything. I stayed at the Wortley Hotel which is now a bed and breakfast. You can feel the history just being there.
@@paulrago9868 Nice! I had the same luck out of season but unfortunately, minus a camera.
@@mpetersen6 With the overuse of emoji's these days, we're going back to hieroglyphics lol.
It's a bit new age for you but I would love to see you cover the Colorado Coalfield War of 1913-14.
Carl could also do Pennsylvania's Coal and Iron Police. a history spanning six decades.
Nothing's too new age for him when it's subjects like this, He did a video on the Miracle Valley Shootout, The Hayes Pond Battle, and the most recent incident he covered was the Daziger bridge shooting when the New Orleans PD shot at unarmed civilians
You are vastly underrated, delivery and comprehension of the events is impeccable. Your vids make my day
Amazing that at 38 years old, this is the first time learning about this.
I’ve heard of billy the kid, but not in this context.
Thanks for the history lesson!
Makes you wonder what other history has been suppressed.
There's a podcast called The Dollop - it's exactly about that. The episode on the Ford Pinto is an excellent place to start
@@LolTollhurst I'll check that out. Thanks.
AmeriKan History is just myth making for the Capitalist system. Be WOKE
Evil white men went to africa and stole all their advanced technology and enslaved the poor, peaceful, highly technological advanced blacks and used it to take over the world, and you can find youtube videos of people who actually believe this.
@@elgrandisimojoe right... let’s tear down the system that brought billions out of poverty in the 20th century alone in the country that the entire planet flocks to and emulates in favor of the most racist and murderous ideology in human history. EAD.
This is the kind of content that got me to support InRange on patreon. It's important to learn this sort of history. Great video as always!
You just cannot hide the truth forever. These corrupt people will never learn.
They are all dead would be my guess
They've destroyed more history than you can even dream of.
Thank you for providing this history. Most people don't know the story behind the Lincoln County War. Billy the Kid was a complicated figure, as were all the players. Understanding the motivations for his actions is important. Please keep doings these.
Man I live like a stones throw from here, generally speaking. I've hunt Deer with my family not far from that forest.
It's surreal how much history surrounds us all the time and it's so easy to forget so much of it.
Appreciate you guys covering this topic. looking forward to that follow up you mentioned. There are a lot of reactionary types out there who like to discredit movements for social change by essentially burying the actual history of the topic in an attempt to discredit those who protest said unethical actions.
Bringing these histories up makes doing that harder for those people.
To steal a philosophy Tube-ism: it makes it a little harder for the arsonist to ask for the match.
knowledge makes the world a better place, basically.
As always you guys do great work, and we appreciate it.
I'm a frequent (or was, pre Covid...) visitor to NM from the UK & spend a lot of time exploring & visiting places relevant to the history of the state with a friend who is a NM native.
We've mostly looked at earlier periods, prior to the coming of the railroads, or later, atomic age sites but I really must begin building an itinerary covering the 19th century for when travel restrictions are lifted.
This certainly will be on that list, thanks.
That’s crazy, good thing society isn’t like that anymore *pauses for laughter*
Civil Asset Forfeiture anyone?
Things aint great but let's not pretend that sheriffs today loot and pillage entire towns on official orders
@@flopus7 Maybe not in the traditional sense, but I know here in NY my wallet is looted and pillaged on official orders from corrupt officials. My liberties are arbitrarily tossed aside for political gain or personal opinions of judges and other officials. Criminals are let loose and the innocent are punished and threatened.
@@gerggerggy7757 an entire burough was pillaged by NYPD on orders from the chief? Im saying that stuff today while objectionable isn't the same as this level of abuse
@@flopus7 I stated “not in the traditional sense”, but yes I would say its the same level of abuse. I also said officials, not NYPD. On borough? Try the whole state.
Having your money stolen, liberties stomped on, law arbitrarily written and enforced depending who you are is still the same. At least in the West, these corrupt officials had the balls to show their faces and personally loot and threaten you. Unlike today where they do the exact same thing except they wont admit that they are doing it and they sit and try to justify it as good or necessary.
Criminals can be on either side of the "Law". As always such insightful historical content.
Criminal with a badge/gavel/JD/elected seat is as common as criminal with a gun/knife/club. Maybe moreso.
@@lightweight1974 Worse yet they can hide behind their authority and claim they're doing the right thing
And nearly 200 years later not much has changed.... We just call it civil forfeiture now so much more civilized sounding...
It used to be that that involved the collusion of a judge and a warrant, and was at least theoretically open to question and correction in the courts after the fact.
That was largely eliminated as part of the "efficiencies needed" in the War On Drugs and the subsequent War On Terror.
Dont forget "re-possession" of property for failure to pay taxes
Imagine a time when law men can kick down doors and take property without judicial oversight or due process. Oh wait, Civil Forfeiture is still a thing.
Your law system is by no means perfect, but leaps and bounds better from what we have in most of europe. Appreciate it while you still can.
@@Gapis321 Our politicians are desperately trying to inflict that upon us as well.
I was gonna say...being suspected of aiding and abetting armed and dangerous men in this day in age will still get your shit pushed in. Replace a horse with your dog and $400 off granny with owing the government tens of thousands of dollars or higher in fines plus jail time.
@@Gapis321 Dude, what? Better in what way? Lead in the tap water like in flint? Hundreds of people killed by police every year? Border Patrol snatching up citizens more than a hundred miles away from the nearest border (the coast) in unmarked vans without visible badges? Citizens United (that name is a damn joke!)? Heard of it?
Yeah, the cops here are tools for the rich too, they are buddies with the people who call for "camps where we can concentrate refugees" too, you know the saying, but at least I know, that if my mate has a mental breakdown, i can call the Emergency Services without having to fear for his life.
@@superxDification I really do not wish to get political, but you're completely delusional in how you think United States function.
In a similar vein: maybe now we can finally talk about the Harlan County War and other instances where law enforcement conspired with corporate interests to suppress labor rights.
And the Johnson County War, and Blair Mountain, and the miner strikes, and on and on. That list is too damn long.
YES! Love these vids. Thank you Karl!
As a new mexican and a guy that has worked in San Patricio a few times I appreciate this wonderful little village getting a bit of attention. As a historian who has looked into a few of the stories of Billy if you ever need a bit of info or interested in some lesser know spots please hit me up.
I like Billy the Kid history. I've happily visited all his gravesites! Great vid, Ty.
Karl around 1978 I personally stood right where you started this video. I used to live in New Mexico, in Alamogordo. "Lincoln County Days" was a big thing in Southern NM back then. Re-enactment of Billy's Jail break and the history of the war was stated by the re-enactors. NOT the history you mentioned (which is much more accurate). Thank You Karl. I love your history vignettes
Fantastic video, Karl. History is often ugly on both sides of an event, that’s no cause to shy away from it’s study or criticize those who study and present the information.
As a Brit the only depictions of this part of American history is the romanticised Hollywood version do It's very interesting to watch these videos real history told both no agenda.
Thank you look forward to the next one.
Excellent video! In NM at that time, the law was very corrupt. Sheriff Peppin should have been hanged. Billy the Kid never robbed a train, stage coach, bank, or individual. Of all the killings in the Lincoln County War, Billy the Kid was the only person the law punished. In fact, he was the only civilian that was taken to trial. Governor Wallace promised Billy a pardon and Billy did his part but the Governor lied. If you were on the Santa Fe Ring side you could literally get away with murder. Billy was on the "Good" side of the Lincoln County War.
Billy's big crime was he was a rustler.
And the cattle he rustled, who owned those cows and how did the owner come by them? Maybe those cows' owner stole them from their proper owner, making Mr Bonney just an agent of retrieval and return to their proper owner.
@@seanoneil277 I'm not getting much information from your comment. What was the evidence of either case?
@@LosBerkos You're not very well informed on how to think critically, I take it. You think TV shows about police procedure in the 20th and 21st Centuries, where there's a storyboard and politically correct "investigative team" who offer observations sequentially sitting around a table, are how things actually proceed NOW, or how things proceeded in the time of Mr Bonney? You've got reality coming 'round the corner to knock some sense into your noggin.
Nobody collected "evidence" back in the days of Mr Bonney, chum. So there's no "evidence" here -- only our ability to think critically about human nature. And you use that ability -- to the extent you possess it -- to ask for 21st Century "proof" regarding events that occurred in the era of no-evidence "law enforcement" behavior.
I don't think you're half as clever as you imagine yourself, chum. But you have time yet to engage your mind. Perhaps begin now?
"Cattle Rustling" was often a claim made to protect one thief's cattle appropriation against the proper owner's attempts to regain the cows taken. This, old fella, is why cattle branding first arose. But cattle branding wasn't always used back then, and if you knew cattle ranching families who go back generations, you might learn this!
These videos always make my day. The way you talk is quite calming.
These are among my favorite videos on inrange.
these videos are genuinely some of my favorite content on CZcams right now. thank you for these.
I always love learning about these types of historical events. Keep up the great work!
I LOVE these short but interesting history vids! Keep up the good work man, I'm really loving the channel lately.
Another awesome historical segment.
These segments are the reason i started supporting you and Ian on Patreon to begin with Karl.
These historical vignettes are excellent, Karl. Please keep 'em coming!
My great-grandfather, Will Zumwalt, had (some say) an outlaw past in Southern New Mexico. In his later years he owned a number of rental homes in Duncan, Arizona, and swore that one of his renters was Billy the Kid. In Duncan they called this man "Kid Bonney." I'll bet there are a million stories like this out there.
This series of videos are some my favorite on CZcams.
I'd heard of the Lincoln County War before, getting a more personal view of it is wonderfully informative. Thank you, Karl.
Love these history presentations. Every one of them teaches me something that I had no idea about previously. Keep up the amazing work!
My mother’s family is from San Patricio, Lincoln-Coe County and Hondo Valley. A Sanchez in the family was a good friend of Billy. He said he buried his body up in the hills where no one would ever find it. They lived on the opposite side of the highway from the church.
I'm quite impressed with your interpretation of history. John
I always learn something new from these vignettes. Great stuff as always Karl! I love this channel.
I've been studying all of this from as many angles as possible since childhood. Thanks for the videos
great video, love these and appreciate the amount of time that goes into them.
Hearing about Billy the Kid as i grew up (here in NM) he wasn't talked about as much of an outlaw but someone who would stand up to anyone, the law included. Almost on the level of Robinhood. So when i learned more and the depth to the story, bits like this add to the distaste for corrupt law enforcement going back generations and the embracing of a criminal.
Looking forward to the next installment. The Lincoln County War is a fascinating piece of lesser known US history. There were no heroes or true 'Good Guys'. I still have a copy of Robert Utley's "High Noon In Lincoln - Violence on the Western Frontier." I'd recommend it for anyone wanting to learn more about The Lincoln County War.
i reallly like these videos, it kind of reinforces that history is written by the winners and not based in reality
WW2?
@@Serahpin Germany and the gang weren't cool, but yeah, The Axis' warcrimes were probably exaggerated, and the Allies' were almost certainly downplayed
We learn very little about US history over here in England. As such, I genuinely find these videos fascinating. I appreciate time, and costs of travel, and suchlike, but please keep these coming!
As a side note: what a beautiful little place San Patricio looks.
In the US we learn very little about our history also. If you want to learn more than the basic footnotes, you have to search it out yourself. (believe this is on purpose) History is taught by those in power about what they want you to know.
Once again 5 mins of excellence. These OWV are always highlight for me. Thanks again from across the pond!
Started donating for the awesome 2 gun content. I stay a Patreon because I know my $5 help make incredible videos like these. Thank you Karl for everything you do.
I like these videos. You tell the story well and you don't bother us with ads before during or after the episode. When I get on My feet and I'm able to support your channel I definitely will. I wish there was more CZcams content creators like you.
I just can't get enough of these.
Fantastic content as always Karl. Really enjoy your WWVignettes and BTK pieces. Thank you and all the best-
I always love seeing my favorite channels talk about stuff local to me.
Decorations and costumes may change, but human nature and greed for power will never change...
In any time, at any place, the deeds of men remains the same.
These little history lessons are fascinating! Keep it up!
Glad you like them!
Very nice video!!! Please keep sharing your videos
Dope! NM resident here, really appreciate your attention to detail and all of yall's content
I just want to say that I subscribed to this channel for its gun content, but it's videos like this that convinced me to support the channel through patreon.
Keep up the excellent work.
Also, any "hacker"/cybersec content in the works?
It is so easy to look back on historical figures or events and assume that moral right was obvious. The truth is often so much more nuanced, and these peoples lives were as complex and intertwined as anyone alive today. Preserving the record of history through an impartial effort like this is so critical.
This is the history that escapes too many people. Thanks so much Carl headed to patreon right now.
This was very informative and interesting! Subscribed!
I love these episodes you guys do on locations and thanks for making these vids
Love how these give a fact vs fiction perspective on old west stories I've only know from movies. Thanks Karl!
Great videos please keep making these historical videos!!!
Great material Karl, keep it up! I can't wait to get out to visit Arizona.
Thank you for showing it
Thank you Karl
I bought that book because of this vid. Thanks for all you do. Respect from Newfoundland and Labrador canada.
I’ve looked into the Lincoln county war just finding stories like these, billy the kid and the regulators were exactly trying to regulate the local government and to this day it’s portrayed as the law as the good guys in this war. Keep up the good work
Xcellent vid, Karl.When you have the time, the history ones are my favourites, including the alternate history/lever-action ones. I noticed you blew away a bunch of WWI bolt actions with an 1880's Winchester in a 2-gun match, QED😆
Karl, btw, recently wrote an Opus, my first serious writing (other than taking on Russian Trolls) since I got Med Pot legalized in Canada 2-decades ago (with the help of about a dozen others, we knew it was the wedge;). I was a History major, Soc/Anth minor, before a career in print journalism that was cut short by a serious injury, and the following does apply to Canada, just different party names and slower, but McJobs as far as the eye can see here too, I'm Gen X, enjoy: "By the time the Berlin Wall fell, a lot of über rich had started pouring millions every year into funding hard-Right politicians and media to destroy the Middle Class, so that they could have powerless wage slaves and duck paying taxes again, like back in their natural habitat, the 19th Century.
Just Google the size of the U.S. Middle Class: there's an unprecedented boom after the Soviets get the Bomb, becoming the majority for the first time, then a steep rise for decades straight, then it suddenly stops growing through the '80s while the Soviets crumbled, and then, if you remove retirees, it starts crashing down with the Berlin Wall in '90.
What's left of the Middle Class has literally been dying off for decades, heading down to minority, pre-Soviet levels, where it had been fluctuating for a century prior to the Soviets scaring the hell out of the top 1%, and it will likely get back down there when the boomers are gone, literally down to 19th-Century levels, QED.
Now look back at how it happened: do you remember Reagan's 'Free' Trade and Trickle-Down BS, then Neo Cons, Gingrich, both Bushes, the Tea Party, plus the Tories back then, Thatcher, Mulroney, Harper, and equally well-funded variants in most Western Countries?
The policies that the wealthiest funded them to implement: screwed organized labour, offshored manufacturing, peasantized the remaining blue-collar, and most white-collar, jobs by attacking pensions and employment benefits (largely making most jobs "part time" or contract, no matter what the hours), made education unaffordable for the majority, and handed out massive tax cuts to the wealthiest, corporations, and Big Oil, forcing massive cuts to social programs and govt services.
Ever-increasing numbers of all ages have been living paycheck to paycheck ever since, a broken leg away from homelessness, frozen out of higher education (without crippling debt) and a Middle Class that is increasingly out of reach.
Yet did you notice that the top 1% have been getting richer and richer ever since, as a direct result of these hard-Right policies, and paying less and less in taxes?
Well, duh, once Communism fell, the Middle Class was expendable, it was only needed to make the Soviets look bad so that the wealthiest weren't destroyed by nuclear-armed 'Commies' convincing the West's poor to unite against them. Back then, we had a booming Middle Class, and they had 'proletariat' bread lines in Moscow, but since the '80s, the only things booming anymore are food banks, McJobs, quasi-slave labour in the developing world, and the wealth of the top 1%.
So those rich pr!cks must be laughing their asses off at the recent trend of younger generations blaming their parents' and grandparents' generations for affordable university, and good jobs, vanishing with the Middle Class, like that wasn't done on purpose, by them, using their hard-Right lackeys in politics and the media.
Follow the money, duh, straight to Right-Wing politicos, and funding the creation a whole new type of openly partisan, hard-Right media, that warped public opinion and made it impossible for Centrists to get elected if they openly tried to reverse the damage, instead of just trying to slow it down, barely, as it turned out.
Noam Chomsky nailed it: today's Dem leadership would be considered moderate Republicans, fiscally, a half-Century ago. Most people didn't even notice it happening with so much money poured into Right-Wing media by the super rich, since the '80s, to manufacture consent for repeasantizing the average American, and moving the once-moderate 'Center' farther Right every decade.
The Dems are now called 'Lefties' for advocating policies to get the Middle Class off of life support that Moderate Republicans would have supported as late as the '70s, but taxing the rich and corporations at pre-'80's levels again is not even on the table.
Think about it: Biden is proposing a corporate-tax increase to LESS than pre-2017 levels, 28%, but the GOP, and their hard-Right, media puppets, are calling him a 'radical Lefty' for this proposed tax increase, which is, in fact, roughly HALF of what corporations actually paid from the '40s to the '80s (over 50%), all while they bring back 'Jim Crow' voting restrictions, nation wide! Talk about 'Welcome to the 19th Century.'
It takes a lot of money to manufacture consent against something as reasonable as corporate taxes that were the norm for half of the last century, even more to get them down to half of that again, but duh, they're Rich, and all these policies they've paid the Right for since the Soviets crumbled have made them exponentially richer, while most everyone else is on a slow train back to the 19th Century.
Granny is working at Walmart or eating dogfood for a reason, 'kiddies,' and you're calling her an entitled Boomer for being on the same slow train as you are? The powerful just love the powerless playing at scapegoating and bigotry, it's the perfect cover, always has been.
'OK Boomer' MY ASS, everyone posting that is a dupe. Yeah, you're all screwed, at least have the brains to know how, and why, and by whom:
It wasn't a generation that screwed you, and everyone else, it was super-rich greedheads and their working-class, right-wing dupes: 'white males with no university education' MY ASS, they've too often been ignorant rac!sts and bigots who were fooled, by dog whistles, into voting for the permanent elimination of the Middle Class they once belonged to. They were key to the GOP's 'Southern Strategy,' so the majority didn't vote for gutting the Middle Class, the majority didn't vote AT ALL.
Welcome to the 21st Century, there is no joining what's left of the Middle Class anymore, it's increasingly just wage slaves of all ages, ruled by millionaires and billionaires who are essentially above the law, a living nightmare that seems like a Rich Republican's, Russian Kleptocrat's, and Chinese Oligarch's, wet dream. It's a Black-Mirror Sh!tShow of a situation that only a Fascist Autocrat could love.
Basically, the Robber Barons are back, and they bought the GOP decades ago, so now we live in a Dickensian dystopia that's getting darker every day. Duh."
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Thanks Karl
Thank you for being respectful of the church, Karl.
These short history pieces are great.
Thanks for the video! A nice reminder about a few facts most people forget or don't know about. I love that old church, I would love to go there. A lot of History there in New Mexico.
These are really great, wish these were able to be enjoyed by more people. Could see this on a PBS or AHC
Love your videos!! Extremely well done . Looking forward to the next 😀 👌
Very interesting story, these kinds of videos are always cool. Cheers
These Old West vignettes have a harsh quality to them that mirrors the difference between the many marginal and the few truly great Westerns. I learn something every time that I watch one of these, and really appreciate them as I know that they don't garner the views of other types of content.
I'm driving through Lincoln, San Patricio, & Hondo on work business- thanks for making my trip more interesting!
Great work, Karl. We appreciate that you are always armed... with the truth.
I enjoy very much your western history programs, featuring Arizona and New Mexico. Billy the Kid must be one of the most
written about and films made about, characters of the old west. I have counted over a dozen films made about him probably
a lot more.
Thanks Karl.
Rich.
I am in Europe and always fascinated that the US still keeps so many 19th century relics not because they wanted to but because there was just so much space that they just survived.
Turnstile was fairly young, the brother of an English Lord he was running a cattle ranch for his family. John Chisum owned 40 acres but controlled thousands because his land held the water in the area. Eventually rustlers made it impossible to run a ranch. He moved to Arkansas when he died he left his two brothers a half million dollars.
The governor of New Mexico should had given Billy a pardon. Great channel and video by the way ! been wanting to visit Lincoln county. Keep them coming !
Grew up in Las cruces outside of old mesilla and I love the history
Great video. Always glad to learn more about this period in the West's history.
Thanks, makes me think of Athens Tennessee 1946, and more recent events.
People need to remember this is a time when LEO's could be a Horse Thief or a Cattle Rustler in Texas, and still be a Lawman in another State.
Thank you!!
Frederick Nolan more than anyone else has clarified the true story of the Lincoln County War and put to rest the self serving bullshit that was Garrett's book. This is the first time I've ever heard the San Patricio story told on a CZcams Channel. Great episode InRangeTV. Hope to see more stories on BTK and the LCW. Thanks.
Great video, thanks for posting!
I love these historical videos you do and the way you tell the story.
Government overreach seems to have deep roots ..
Thnxs 4 sharing
Wow that's awesome! I might have to go visit some of these places one day.
Wonderful. Love this type of content.
History is always written by the "victor".... My family has lived in NM longer than its been a state. So much truth in this history here
...and as usual amazing information! Thanks mate
My pleasure!
Love these historic videos. THX!