The Collapse Of Jeep: Why Jeep Is Failing After 78 Years Of Producing Iconic SUVs
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- čas přidán 4. 04. 2023
- Today I talk about how Jeep's sales have declined by over 20% year over year for the first quarter of 2023. I talk about what this sales decline means for Jeep and why this decline is happening!
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63k for a midsized truck with cloth interior. 44k for the microSUV Compass. Are you kidding me? Wow, that says it all.
Yeah, Jeep just isn't competitive at all.
That will spend 3 months in the shop for a plastic part coming from Mexico.
Right? You could get a 4runner for Compass prices.
@@musclesmouse I know, right?! Jeep is certainly living outside it's own mind these days with their pricing!
My supplies for my construction company have gone up 85% when you dorks voted for printing “free” money.
Of course vehicles are expensive. The average cost is $48,000 now.
Maybe Jeep can sell affordable Wranglers and Gladiators that people can actually afford. That would work.
That’s Supposed to be Cherokee compass or renegade
@@sean____2886 ... and Wrangler. A base Wrangler (CJ pre 87) was always the cheapest vehicle in Jeeps lineup.
Today... Wranglers are ridiculously overpriced.
Got me for 2500 over sticker last year
What a concept
They used to. My 2004 Wrangler TJ model X had AC, 4.0 I6, 5 sp manual. $17,400, less than 20k for me out the door. Still drive it. Just changed the fluids, brakes, tires over time. No issues.
The prices are getting too expensive for the average person, auto dealers and companies need to get back to the average working man / woman! Not the top tier ppl
Since the NA builders have decided to price the average Joe out of the market, it’s time for us to open up the American market to Chinese and Indian vehicle manufactures
@@lalutte65 Even Chinese and Indian automakers have started pricing their vehicles to match their NA and EU counterparts.
There margins are the same. You
can thank Biden for the massive increase in the cost of goods and inflation. It's not big greedy companies. It's the big greedy bloated government. I guess you haven't noticed the skyrocketing costs of other goods and services? The average new car is now $50,000.
Eff no. The quality there is worse than jeep and they don’t meet us safety standards
agreed, I think they still think about the average person, the problem is the poison of "over-luxurious" in the market: so many brands adding a luxury feature and then saying it "best in class" this dares another brand to compete and make a better (more expensive) version of that feature. also cars are safer and with that comes cost. kinda a perfect storm to make vehicles very expensive. try leasing though!?
I was looking to get a Wrangler this year, but since Jeep decided to price their vehicles for people with such high disposable income, I lost interest and chose not to have a $1000 a month car payment.
I drive my 2007 accord sedan v6 because its the highest quality because right after that obama assassinated our auto industry in his tyrannival antifreedom war with biden to assassinate the united states in cold blood. Its got 175k miles and doesnt burn oil unlike hondas today, the shitboxes. I fixed mine up a bit over the last 2 or 3 years and Im listing it for sale for slightly over what i paid and im going to buy another one just like it thats got some flaws and i will fix it up again and drive it for 2 or 3 years and sell it for a little more than i bought it for again.
If you count the cost of repairs i break even and its a free car. I sell to some guy who drives it and sells it for about what he paid also, its great. Plus i didnt get FUCKING ROBBED and i didnt have to rob anyone just like these people are doing in mass
Trust me. They don’t have high disposable incomes. They all take out huge loans
@@likewaterforcoffee1570 One can have a high disposable income and take out a huge loan. I live in a pretty wealthy area, and Jeeps are everywhere owned by rich folk. What I see significantly less of are Land Rovers. Ever since Jeep started pushing up their prices and becoming more "luxury" they've started to eat into the Land Rover market, but have priced themselves out of the every-man off-roader market.
@@The_Bean_Daddy People are dumb. I never associated the brand with "high end luxury" and never will. I laugh whenever I see someone with a new Jeep and the window sticker is still on the vehicle. Most are paying a whopping $55K for them. And I've sat in one at a car show. Unimpressed, didn't feel comfortable or luxurious at all. I'd rather drive a Land Rover series III or IV Defender any day over that...
Insanity paying that much for a piece of crap😂
As a former ad guy, I actually worked on the launch of the XJ (Cherokee) in 1983-84. What a great car. Paid about $10K for a new one under the supplier plan discount. Bought a new Wrangler in 1989 for $13K. Both of these were simple base models with manual transmissions and steel wheels.Yes, Jeep has priced themselves beyond what the brand deserves, particularly given that its plagued by build quality and reliability issues. Jeep has also watered down its DNA with models like the current Renegade, Cherokee and Compass and over-extended themselves with the ridiculous (and ugly) Grand Wagoneer. Back in the early 80"s, I remember the lament about "bean counters" and how they negatively impact the design of a new car. Looks like its gotten only worse.
I feel like recent model year Wranglers are still reliable if you don't add lift kits, aftermarket accessories, et al. I have a 2017 Wrangler Sahara as my daily driver - 67k miles, and aside from things you'd expect to wear out at the 5 year/60k mile mark (e.g. tires, brake pads, battery), it's been as reliable as any other vehicle I've owned. Price wise, Jeep has been too expensive for a while - have enjoyed mine, but could only justify the purchase by getting a new, prior year model at a $6-7k discount vs. what the 2018s were selling for at the time. An upgrade would be nice, but the equivalent Wrangler to mine now is over $50k at much higher interest rates. Doesn't make sense.
Hah, the days of the unkillable XJ are long over. I worked in parts at a Jeep Dealership back in the early 2000's. Even back then we were starting to comment on how the reliabilty of Jeep was going down yet the price continued to go up. The Cherokee swapped out it's amazing trans for a much cheaper version back then and the overall quality of parts used started to take a huge nose dive. Mopar on a whole seemed to be finding new ways to make parts that cost them less money. Rams were commonly having a cycliner that wouldn't fire along with rust issues. Grand Cherokees we considered not worth buying at all (at that time) due to the many issues they had. Kinda funny but back then the Liberty was the most reliable model. Who knows what it looks like now but anyone I know that currently owns a Jeep isn't very happy with it. Especially for the insane prices they are trying to charge.
I assume you've read the book "Car Guys vs. Bean Counters: The Battle for the Soul of American Business"? If not, its 110% worth the read
I agree. The Renegade is nothing more than a Fiat 500 on steroids.
They're trying too hard to be Land Rover.
Price, price, price. You said it Ben. Car makers are chasing profits above all else. Something has to give 😎
Yes don’t GIVE them your money.
It is not the car makers man it is todays ignorant consumers. You cannot blame a business for going after profits because that is what business does. People need to learn how to say No and due without then prices will come down. Why would I want to sell a Jeep for 30k when people are willing to give me 70k for it? I would be stupid to sell them cheaper so long as I have buyers.
@@JasPlunBro did you take economics in HS ever? Supply and demand. The dealers did sell at over sticker when there was demand. That demand is now gone. We have high prices and little demand. All that’s gonna happen is Jeep goes back to 10k of incentives to get more people to buy
Theyre hardly profitable... its mkre complicated than that. The obama regime singlehandedly doubled the cost of the economy car through nothing more than tyrannical antifreedom regulations
@@davewilson7602 its not going to work dummy. No one is buying a 50k jeep because they give out useless worthless incentives. You couldnt pay me to drive a jeep. They sold us out to the chinese communist regime and they want to chop our kids balls off. I dont think an incentive is going to help the horrific quality, crazy price, and the treason
Because buying a vehicle is now the same price as buying a house. You can be homeless and mobile or have a home and be sedentary.
Where do you live lol i could never get a house for this price cars are more expensive but not a house lol
@@boomee78 Here in North Alabama you can buy a town home for around 90K
Here in Florida I know you can get land for $30k(Base Jeep) but a house?
@@davidterry3288 That sounds like cheap cost of living sir. Don’t need a brand new vehicle. Especially in Alabama, can get by with a car. Get a townhome and a nice used vehicle and you’re only in 130k tops. Not a bad deal.
Pricing is industry wide. Everyone is raising prices. And most manufacturers are selling more and making more profit. Not Jeep.
Crazy pricing and reliability. Just having coffee with friends a few hours ago. 3 of the gentleman all commented how they had a Jeep but all the mechanical problems they had and swore they’d never buy another.
2021s and 2022s all have huge problems
After the mid 1990s, Jeep went down the toilet. IF you bought a Jeep of any kind before 1993, you got a decent car. My old Cherokee Ltd. lasted almost 12 years without any issues. The only reason I sold it was the age. It had turned into a ticking time bomb: every time something went wrong, I got the same response from the Mopar mechanics: "Dang, how old is this thing? We're lucky we still have the part!" I ran into a new issue: the engine was outlasting EVERYTHING supporting it. Had to rip out and replace the battery and cooling system. The mechanic said the same thing: "It's too old! I'm amazed it lasted that long!" When I sold my Jeep, it was still running: the power windows still worked, the door locks were fine (nothing a squirt of WD40 couldn't fix!). It still had the original engine and transmission. But looking under the hood, I realized it was time to let go of my precious Jeep. There were so many new components under the hood that I knew I was on borrowed time.
They are too expensive…
Way too ecpensive. I would pay no more than 20k for a gladiator. A toyota corolla is a 15k car they sell for 25k after taxes... when i was born in 98 it was like a 13k car man... i own a 2007 accord im trying to sell for about 5-6k and its better at 15 years old than lots of these cars are brand new off the showroom floor.... my fucking cars painy isnt water based
I am on my 6th and 7th Jeep vehicles. But, due to the great price increases they will probably be my last Jeep purchases. I paid $35K out the door for my new 21 Cherokee Trailhawk. Today $10k to 15K more and they have been discontinued. The whole line of cars are too expensive.
35k is too expensive. Problem is these morons cant make it cheaper without making it more disposable than a paper plate because theyre all incompetent morons
As someone who was just in the market for a mid size pickup truck I looked at the Gladiator. I was in a Grand Cherokee but these Jeep dealers are putting the highest trims on the lot (more so with Wrangler and Gladiator) and then when they get a “base model” they go and put 30k worth of upgrades on them. Now may be if they had a little bit of reliability I would have considered it but at the end of the day I went with the Tacoma
You wanted reliability so you went with a Toyota? With the most recalls in the automotive industry???...
@@ryoc2138You seriously can't compare a Tacoma to any Jeep. Not even in the same universe in reliability or really any other category
@@mikehawkins3613 I know!...it would be a crime to say that any Toyota is anywhere near as reliable as a Jeep...I would never say something that absurd
The prices are out of control! I love the look of the Wrangler, but it's not very practical and it's pushing $70,000. Would love to have one, but just can't justify the expense.
A 392 will cost you around $90k.
You can get a full size F150 tremor for 70k, with leather auto pilot
TRY grand cherokee 4xe trial hawk $65K or Grand Cherokee L SUMMIT reserve v8 $80k and $100,000 grand wagoneer L
No one can afford this expense. The aversge income is 45k. Theyre trying to sell vehicles no one in their right mind would buy because their payments are literally slave payments
I had a 2021 GC-L and sold it and bought a 23 Palisade and loving it 💪
BRING BACK THE STRAIGHT 6!!!!! And offer a real off road capable Laredo!
The straight 6 is back... its dubbed the "Hurricane"
Wait...... what???? Really??? For the grand Cherokee?
Wow ok cool I just looked it up. But it's turbo only. No NA options
That v6 is half plastic
Theyd find a way to ruin it. Theyre too stupid. I beg honda tp bring back the naturally aspirated v6 but these auto guys are such scam artists im aure theyd sell a plastic piston and plastic piston rings and convocne 75% of these total morons its a smart move when it isnt just so they can mark the cost up 5k
Price.
Pure and simple. A 60k Wrangler is insane.
It's also insane that people think they need the 60k wrangler when you can get a basic 2DR Wrangler for 32k and it's still more capable than any other vehicle except maybe it's direct competition.
Terrible quality vehicle too
@@AHungryHunky too expensive too low quality. 32k is crazy. Toyota used to make a better truck by far for 15k and it was still trash but at least better
@@TheAnnoyingBoss And inflation has happened, Toyota cars don't even go for 15k anymore let alone their trucks.
My point was simply you don't need a 60k Wrangler to do fun things.
@@AHungryHunky yes inflation happened but things dont inflate for no reason. Automotive inflation happened because of very distinct key reasons. Inflation doesnt magically happen all on its own. It happens because people do things that cause price to drive up instead of down. The bushes, obamas and bidens have all had direct specific actions they did that made our vehicles cost more and suck more than ever before. Theyre trying to sell us the worst vehicles ever made while grooming us to think theyre the best. Never has owning a new vehicle ever been more of a cataclysmic nightmare. The cost goes up because they tack on an illegal gas guzzler taxation without representation, a mass human rights violation in usa. Yet there is no lithium or electricity guzzler tax on teslas driving up all of our monthly electricity bills. This is illegal anti free market, anti competitive anti american actions. These are inhumane actions. They add on extra cost just to add on extra cost for no reason solely just to unfairly handicap good cars to force bad cars to look better than they really are. With stuff so terribly horrific happening in our automotive which has been enslaved to the communist chinese, we are in bad shape. Engines made of plastic that cost more than engines have ever cost ever before 🤡 there is a blatant rampant assault against mankind happening. There is no reason I should ge having to expose the auto industry after coming from having to tell people theyve been lied to and brainwashed to chop their balls off identifying as transgender when it isnt even scientifically possible to change genders because of domestic enemies terrorizong us hidong behind the democrat party 🤡 theyre canceling real surgeons and installing morons soley to butcher children trying to swap their genetalia. Democrats tell me "thats what love is" thats not love. They are worse than nazi germany by order of magnitude. while they worship hitlers fascist socialism, censoring the masses while accusing them of fascism when they dont bow to their 1984 666 antihuman world views like normalizing pedophilia and saying to me they are big fans of hitlers economic policies that caused ww2. This is signs of demonic activity enslaving us and the democrat leftists are satans puppets. These people are 97% the source of ALL inflation. Its not just auto. Everyone is under assault by pure evil, everywhere. Transgender rampage killers are killing people left and right and democrats nornalize it but god forbid a cop arrest a black man that is a fentynl drug dealer right???????? Stop the fucking insanity. I have to explain to people basic fucking 3rd grade science who are 60 year old brainwashed by democrats to be historically record breaking stupid morons one moment and I have to expose the scam that is the entire global auto industry tyranny also because we are living through a 1984 666 dystopia. The entire middle east worships a pedophile for christ sakes. Maybe if the whole fucking world wasnt filled with people who are rampantly assaulting humanity our fucking cars would cost 5k and be better than ever for once in my fucking lifetime. These idiots ruin everything the worst as possible on purpose and then expect praise for a job well done 🤡 the earth has never been in worse shape ever before because of these clowns. The lgbt death cult will cause way more population collapse than HITLER. No fucking wonder my truck cost 70k everyone who was supposed to fucking innovate and invent, the democrats groomed to be transgender and they radicalize them into rampage killers and they mass suicide after they realise theyre democrats literal nazi human expirament and the dems blame trump who didnt turn anyone trans and thus nowhere near the mass murder suicides. Maybe if this fucking country wasnt being held hostage by satans actual 1984 666 minions my motherfucking f150 wouldnt cost the life savings I dont have because joe biden has been sucking the money out of my fucking wallet since before I was born. Automotive inflation happened because obama and joe need to make sure jeep enriches the chinese communist regime manufacturing their parts with slaves on the other side of the fuckin globe. All about love and tolerance the pedophile child genetalia butchers say, right? Maybe we should stop yelling INFLATION without looking into why every time there is ONLY inflation when the democrats are doing terrible things that cause irreparable damage to mankind on a level never before seen in human history. Maybe thats the source of our motherfucking never ending inflation! Maybe it has to do with the never ending democrat regimes. Trump proved gas cost could be a dollar a gallon. Democrats said youd need magic want for that 🤡 the same democrats butcher children alive and mass violate human rights preaching their tolerance which is only intolerance in reality. There isnt any inflation when we arent enslaved to the communist chinese regime via open blatant democrat satan worshipping for some really fucking weird reason!!!! Why does the 2 dollar piece of platic to fix my cruise control button that I only need the 1 cent piece of plastic inside of it that isnt sold seperate for the actual repair costing me 20+ motherfucking dollars to ship from slaves in china?!?!??!??!?? Robery. Biden regime is mass grand heist. Dems say "it would cost to much to make that part here" 🤡🤡🤡🤡 terrible people. Truely dumbest alive. Truely horrifically dangerously stupid people. Less crazy people spent their lives in insane asylums and were way less crazy on purpose. Maybe thats the source of the inflation huh?? Why does everyone scream inflation but ignore its democrats as the source??? No one was screaming inflation when trump was in office. We were celebrating deflation for the first time in my life. Thanks democrats. We made everything in usa before the global enslavent to china they only aided, helped and forced. Thats joe biden and the democrats antihuman antiamerican terrorist logic for you. "yOU dONt WAnT tHoSE jObs" fuck you demonrats. I want the fucking job so i can make the fucking part quality and i keep my fucking 20 dollars in my fucking pocket rather than sending it to fucking chinese slaves enriching a fucking chinese communist regime to fix something that shouldve mever broke. Fuck this shit. I will build my own truck from fucking scratch before I give a penny to these demon people voting for joe biden who spent their whole lives enslaving me and my wallet, while butchering people alive worse than nazi germany, underpaying me and overcharging me while trying to convince me trump is the source of all they have been forcing onto us for years every motherfucking day. Maybe there wouldnt be inflation if joe bidens terrorist treasurer wasnt jacking up interest rates to force inflation while claiming like a criminal illiterate smoothbrain retard saying it HelPs FigHt iNflAtiOn. These democrats are the worst people in human history by far only if you exclude stalin and mao who they are shockingly identical too. Hitler will be remembered as less deadly than the bush biden and obama regime dictatorship that has enslaved our fucking country and mass violated our human rights my entire life. Maybe my motherfucking car wouldnt cost 30k before all the other expenses if democrats didnt turn all our kids into raging bluehair feminazi lesbians obsessed with chopping the fucking childrens genetalia off and canceling everyone who knows science only supports 2 genders with no capability of switching. I bet if we resolve this 1984 666 historic record breaking tyrannical left wing assault on mankind, the fucking car cost would go down and the quality would shoot up because the fucking engineer is aware what gender they are and isnt at war agaisnt the fucking periodic table trying to get rich at the poors expense taxing the fucking elements on the fucking periodic table driving up the cost so horrifically while blind fools say ITs JuSt InfLatIon! Is it really inflation or is inflation just what we call the results of decades long democrat tyranny??? Because it seems to me when people werent chopping their balls off and claiming to be a women just to get hired by joe biden, there was no fucking inflation. There was also no transgender nonbinary rampage killers and mass suicides. I bet those have a pretty fucking drastic affect on inflation. I bet inflation turns into deflation when democrats dont groom their children to participate in pedophile transgender strip club drag shows. Is it really inflation or is it democrats? I know the answer, do you? Give me a small factory and a few skilled employees and ill make a jeep that puts all jeeps to shame on my first try. Less cost, higher quality. Also, NO COMMUNIST CHINESE SLAVES that INCREASES COST. Wierd, they tell me raising interest rates and manufacturing our stuff in china will fight inflation but all I have seen my entire fucking 1 lifetime these leftists have been ruining is the exact opposite happening 🤡 weird, who wouldve guessed people so batshit crazy would do such a terrible job so long and still get hired again and again??? Democrats, the worse of a job you can do, the more real of a democrat you are. They complain about rising costs which are merely the results of their own actions 🤡 I know the source of our inflation. You dont need to rell me toyotas dont sell for 15k anymore you dumb idiot. Theyre SUPPOSED TO BE. That is the problem. Youre buying a 15k truck for 30k+ 35k+. Its a terrible quality truck. Its merely the king of reliability on the unreliability mountain. You do not comprehend. You dont need to explain to me toyotas dont sell for 15k anymore. Im not the retard you think i am while you speak to me like as if ive never seen an msrp sticker at the endless vaste seas of auto dealers begging me to come get robbed on my way into town everyday
Simply put, Stellantis has lost touch with their customers.
-Expensive
-Unreliable
-No more hemi
-standard (non-optional) luxury features
FCA enjoyed a brief renaissance while Marchionne was around because he was a car guy's car guy. He drove the company to make what people wanted. Once he was gone, Mopar fell right back to where they were before he was in charge, and did it pretty fast.
Precisely, I lost hope for Jeep and Dodge when I heard that we lost Marchionne.
And they own everything. What a terrible incompetent company. They took bad products and made them worse but raised the price. I knew it was happening but jts sad to see it so painfully obvious that its going to backfire and stellantis still sells a polished turd telling you is a high quality marble rock
Spot on reply. Too many problems for vehicles that are crazy expensive. And how do you sell junk like the Compass and expect people to get excited about your brand?
The pricing on the Jeeps is shocking and outrageous. I remember not that long ago being able to buy a Wrangler for 25k. Wranglers were one of the cheapest vehicles you could buy. How do you explain this shocking turnaround?
Greed
The French are going to drive jeep dodge and chrysler into the ground
@@redst9364 While making crap vehicles that no one will admit.
@@jeffrey3498 the French are the only ones who managed to make less reliable cars than Jeep Chrysler 🙄
Jeffrey, when I was 19, Wranglers sold for under $20k! Now I can't even afford one. Jeep is going to collapse if they keep this up. I'm serious. You cannot survive if your sales are down TWENTY percent. All the upper management and bean counters need to be sacked and replaced with REAL business people.
Great video. I like how you actually provide the sales figures. Some CZcamsrs just say an car manufacturer is doing bad because they have a lot of cars at the dealership lol.
Lots of cars on a lot doesn’t mean a dealer or automaker is doing bad, sales figures are super important.
@@BenHardyCars yup. Car manufacturers especially care about yoy sales figures and market share.
Yeah I think it's price. Even the Wrangler 392 20th anniversary is over $100k. That's just insane.
My 2017 Grand Cherokee Trailhawk is currently in the shop for its second catastrophic water pump failure in addition to gasket issues and stability control/4wd/differential issues. Repairs will likely be >7K. This combined with the fact that the hemi grand cherokee with an off road package no longer exists and that I am stuck with these underpowered >60K Grand cherokees without adequate off road options or tires has me leaving Jeep after 3 consecutive vehicles with them. Went to BMW and found that the top of the line Grand Cherokee cost nearly the same as the X5 M50i, which is ridiculous. Thanks for the great content and reviews as I try to choose my next vehicle.
I would love to buy a 4xe Grand Cherokee if it wasn’t $70,000. I can’t wrap my mind around paying that much for a Jeep.
I have a 93 Cherokee that will do all the same basic things a brand new one will, it's worth maybe 2,000.
Only untouchable career criminals like nancy pelosi can afford these prices
They're starting to advertised heavily discounted prices here in the portland metro area. Like under $500 a month for lease payments.
It's all about their pricing! Back in 2015, I got a new Wrangler JKU Sport S for $31K, now Sport and Willys models are creeping up darn near $50K (depending on selected options), which used to be where the Rubicon would be. They have significantly increased the prices of the option packages-the cold weather group (remote start, heated seats & steering wheel) used to be $895, that package now is over $1,000 and for what? It is the same exact package! A 2023 Willys JLU is almost $5K more, with the exact same options, as my 2021 Willys. They really need to come back to reality with their pricing. Sales numbers don't lie, people are looking elsewhere.
I agree on Jeep trying to become a luxury brand now. The wrangler is a budget G Wagon these days, without the reliability of a G Wagon lol. They are asking laughable prices for a base Sport and wonder why no one is buying them.
Didn't they say they wanted the jeep brand to go up market and then they can leave dodge as being the affordable brand under the Stellantis umbrella
Mercedes isn’t the poster child of reliability lol.
And gwagons are trash
@@Aceinfinity-le8zc we know. By our standards theyre unreliable and jeep is worse. Its a shame how i was born just in time to watch the whole world commit suicide drinking the jonestown koolaid. "DOnt woRrY, ThE 50,000 dOllAR caR bEiNg mAdE froM 90% cHeAp ChIneSE pLaStiC iS gOoD fOr rEpAiraBiLiTy 🤡 honk honk" these auto companies treat us like we are dumber than democrats think we are. Im sick of the scamming and tyranny and grooming
They're pricing themselves out of normal peoples wallets. Also, when Fiat took over the quality went down and now that Stellantis has taken over it's gone down even further.
It boils down to quality and price.
Low quality and high price. Supposed to be the opposite. Im going to build a single cab pickup put of square tube steel, body on frame, with thick metal and a cummins engine unless they make those in china. Going to put metal toggle switches and high quality buttons. Itll be like the original tacoma size but twice as durable ay least. Real leather from a real cow because its renewable and actually works for lifetimes if taken care of. These idiots use fake leather that wesrs out instead of in and they want to charge more. I will build a truck like an old tractor. Store it in a barn for 50 years easy no problem. Maybe ill put a solar panel on the roof soley for trickle chsrhing the battery so it can sit a long time wothout bsing driven. Instead of the epas retsrded water based paint as if this is fucking kindergarden im going to coat my entire truck in a nickle boron coating like the ar15 bolt carrier group. Slightly self lubricating by design, keep that rust at bay for the ultra long term and even if it rusts my body will be thick so you scrape it off and keep going. Crumple zones? What are those? Must not be in my dictionary. All my dictionary has in it is AFFORDABILITY AND RELIABILITY
Highly informative content. I’m trying to remain optimistic Jeep will make a twin turbo engine version in 2024; for the Grand Cherokee Summit. I simply refuse to pay $65k to $75k for a small 3.6 liter engine for their luxury Jeep summit.
44k for a compass . Lol they were 21k 20 yrs ago ,double in price and they break more now 😢
I remember u could get them new for 16k
2 years ago.
In Europe a compass can cost up to 60k $
And they expect us to buy them im sticking with my 15 year old accord if no one buys it. I listed it for sale but i take care of it incase it doesnt. Too many people driving oil burning engine blowing kias that try to lowball me on price when im really fair with my prices so i dont like being taken advantage of when im fairnon price. Its nog my fault old hondas are cheap but not dirt cheap. They hold value because theyre not as unreliable as most of the trash theyre selling brand new.
100% agreed. My parents had a late 90s Cherokee (in Chili Pepper Red) and then got a Liberty, which lasted nearly 20 years! I loved both of those-they were simple, rugged land affordable, not loaded up with technology. With the ending of the Cherokee, Jeep has nothing to fill that slot-in a segment they invented! So sad, so frustrating. I hope they can pivot back but I doubt it.
My stupid parents keep yelling at me to get rid of my 6 year old VW GTI but I won't. I saw the pricing on some GMC and Jeep vehicles that I thought looked interesting. ALL of them cost $25,000 more than my GTI when it was new. No thanks. They can keep their overpriced garbage and I'll stick with VW. The Germans have a word for morons who push and sell crap like this: schadenfreude.
When jeep mechanics say don't buy half their models, I listen.
There hasn't been a dealer incentive for jeeps in my area since 2019.
Same here in The Southeast United States
There are now…
Good presentation and spot on. I have an old friend who worked for Mercedes when they merged with Chrysler in the late 90s. She would keep me in the know about plans for Jeep. In the mid-2000s she said the were going to try to drive the brand upscale to compete with Land Rover due to LR’s profitability and lack of competition. I said “fail “ then as now.
I really like the Gladiator, but they are quite a bit more expensive then other mid-size trucks.
GMC Sierra Denali - Am I a joke to you? 😂😁
Their pricing is ridiculous but also the economy is shit and even the people I know that make $150k a year are living paycheck to paycheck because just walking into the grocery store to grab some meat, milk and eggs and a few extras end up costing like 200-300 dollars.
Wait jeep is discontinuing their affordable vehicles AND struggling to vehicles? Are they trying to become pontiac?
Jeep hasnt gad an affordable vehicle since 1990s and even those ones were worse quality than they needed to be. Obama going to war agaisnt reality itself including illegally hyper regulating the auto industry sure didnt help either
$63,000 for a cloth interior Gladiator. Whatever happened to building a Gladiator that could work as a work vehicle that could be used by blue collar people? Does Jeep not even care?
No blue collar person in their right mind trusts a GlAdIAtOr to be reliable enough for real work. Esspecially since it costs your life savings just to be even more of an endless money pit after you let jeep rob you of 63k before even fucking counting sales tax. For 63k youd be terrified to take it through the carwash lest it scratch your paint and cost 15k to fix your cheap epa illegally hyper regulated overly expensive and underperforming water based paint. I saw a guy buy one and it was falling apart brand new and he was spending a fprtune upgrading it like a moron. By the time your done you sunk 80k in a truck no one wants to buy for even 60 because its more than most people make.. big fat grand heist robbery is what it is. But sure, call it a work truck while its body panels crumple like an empty soda can. Anyone who buts one of these probbaly wont get much work because what customer wants to imadvertently pay for someones overly expensive scam vehicle? If the vehicle they drive is trash the work they do is probably similar substandard quality
Great video Ben. You are absolutely correct on all these topics regarding Jeep!
They have an eager buyer right here if they would drop the damn price. This vehicle in not a "need" like most other trucks are so I have lots of patience and will wait them out!
I have a 2016 overland that I love with love with low miles I’m waiting them out on prices want the 2022 last hemi V8 overland to drop in price
@@cjgray9352 I'm looking for an Overland as well but a diesel. The scumbag dealers are gouging even more than the gas. But it's only a matter of time because interest rates are insane and their customer base is limited
I wonder how much of Jeep's sales have eroded due to the evolution of the "overlanding" fad? We've seen Ford and GM come out in recent years with lots more in the way of off-road capable packages of 1/2 ton and mid-size trucks (Ranger Tremor, Ranger Raptor, F150 Tremor, AT4 and AT4X, Trailboss, and the new Chev/GMC mid-size trucks are all about off-road, at very least in styling). Not to mention Ford going very hard at Jeep with the new Bronco lineup. So where Jeep was undisputedly the domestic brand that had its focus on off-road capabilities, now that other domestic automakers are moving into that space, Jeep's shortcomings (price, reliability, value) are under a bigger microscope and can't hold up against the new alternatives.
I think the difference there is that trucks like the Raptor, AT4 sierras etc…are simply new packages of existing vehicles that already sell well. If you look at the Bronco, regardless of what you think about it…it generally captures the aura of the original Broncos fairly well. The Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer, and even the Cherokee don’t seem to do that in the same manner. The original Grand Wagoneer was a capable off roader, but was made more upscale by getting leather seats, nicer interior materials and maybe some additional options. The new Grand Wagoneer seems to be trying to cash in on the legacy of the name, while being built to compete more with vehicles like the Escalade. Might not be a bad vehicle for the segment…but it doesn’t quite fit it’s nameplate.
Similar to how the Mach-E gets blasted for the fact that it wears the Mustang name. I’m not a Ford guy…and I kind of like the Mach-E….but it shouldn’t be a Mustang.
Ford cant build a bronco for shit. Theyre trash vehicles too. Ford and jeep competing to see who can fill up the junkyards the fastest. Avoid at all costs. After honda got rid of the v6 their reliability died. Toyota went hybrids, their reliability is dead. Who wants a twin turbo v6 tundra? Going to be the most expensive to repair used truck clunker in history right behind the hummer ev and ford lightning
It's no great secret as to why sales are sluggish...sticker-shock!
My first new car was a 1996 Cherokee Country. It was $23k out the door. That’s the Jeep I remember. Straight 6. Rugged. Barely comfortable But could go anywhere off-road or to the country club. They lost their way when they canned these XJs in 2001
You nailed it. Affordability is why I bought a Wrangler Sport in 2015 and a Ram 1500 in 2017 and the price increases are why it seems I'll never buy another vehicle from them. I've bought 5 vehicles since that Ram pickup, none of them from Jeep/Stellantis.
I really enjoy my grand Cherokee l. The prices are a real concern but dollar for dollar I would pick the L over the telluride any day. Better materials, quality and size. I am very curious as why it doesn’t get more CZcams love. The limited is the best value.
Because they think they are a luxury brand when they are a basic ass 🚙 brand!
Thanks for the update Ben…..
2 door Wranglers use to start at $19,999 less then 10 years ago …
Even then it was too high price for too low quality. These morons have been reducong reliability and affordability for decades and its a recipe for disaster
I always buy used in order to avoid ridiculous depreciation.
Got my JLU Rubicon for $38,000. I don’t feel like it’s a $70,000 car.
Good video. I agree with Ben that Jeep has become too focused on trying to move the brand upmarket and they are forgetting about their traditional buyers that want a rugged vehicle at a reasonable price. Jeep seems to have forgotten that if you take care of the customers, the customers will take care of you.
They've become the Disney of the automobile industry: "We are too big to fail." Well, keep it up and they WILL fail. They're headed that way right now. 20% drop in sales for 2023 is BAD and companies cannot survive on those numbers...
I agree with your analysis. I live in Canada and Stellantis pricing went ridiculously high. I will more likely be looking elsewhere next time.
Stellantis goal is to sell you the lowest quality vehicle possible for the highest price they can rob from you and your bank. I wouldnt buy a snowcone from those crooks
. . . bang on! . . . tks for sharing a great video . . .
The vehicles with the 4.0 inline 6 engines were the last best jeeps ever made. The xj is a great vehicle, and even though they were a little more expensive than your typical sedan or small suv, it sold well. I still see an xj mail truck in my town to this day. Not sure why use something that inefficient, but obviously it's very reliable. I've daily drived one for a year and a half, and it's done everything so far.
All the automamufactures committing suicide right infront of us while proclaiming their vehicles are.betrer than ever so please send 60k... these auto manufacturers are pricing these cars like its the end of the world amd they have to sell for 60k or they go bankrupt because it is the end of the world and they will and frankly they deserve it. If all the auto manufacturers prodice trash then fuck it i wont drive. I enjoy watching them die and not being a victim to their grand heist robberies they call a jeep
Dam Right!!
If manufacturers start selling direct, and if dealership start refusing to do warranty work where will you have it done. And it's hard enough to get a appointment for service now
I’ve noticed that I have to make an appointment 3-4 weeks out to get an oil change at the dealership where as before I only had to schedule it maybe a week before. Ridiculous.
Send it back to the manufacturer to be recycled and replaced by the next one that rolls off south of the boarder? LOL, dealerships trying to price themselves out of the market?
I recently replaced my 1997 TJ Wrangler with a 2015 Jeep Wrangler Freedom. I don’t normally buy a preowned vehicle but a new Jeep Wrangler’s price didn’t make sense for a vehicle that is essential a toy, at least for me. I absolutely love my 2015 Wrangler.
A new one just like it would have cost me $20,000 more than I paid for the preowned one I bought which was a one owner, locally owned, low mileage, that’s in showroom condition inside and out.
I'm surprised it is only a 20% sales decline, especially with current interest rates. How can anybody justify paying what they are charging especially given their notorious quality/reliability issues.
It's a shame they're stopping Cherokee production. We have a 2018 4WD with the 2.4 and it's been perfect and gets decent mileage. At the time it was the most American made car there is as well as being union made.
Great points! 8 yrs ago ordered a 15 Cherokee Trailhawk with a sticker of $37555 cdn. This year it’s time to refresh the Cherokee as it’s getting small for us now and age/mileage. Priced up the same Cherokee Trailhawk as a 23 just to see - $55000 cdn. Yea no thanks jeep, lost a Jeep customer as I never wanted to entertain the Grand Cherokee pricing. Went to Ford drove a Timberline Explorer, loved it and ordered one same day.
Good observations. They are too expensive for what you get. My wife and went looking at Grand Cherokees vs Ford Edge a few years ago. (not for off roading obviously) but we discovered the Edge was giving you more options for less money, and getting way better fuel economy. She has had some issues with her Edge, but nothing catastrophic. And regular vehicles now are becoming affordable for regular people.
Been crosshopping between a loaded compass and loaded Tucson hybrid. Tucson is bigger with more features, 10 year warranty and MORE GROUND CLEARANCE 🤯
And probably no more expensive for all that it offers over the Compass.
@@jeffmorse645 its 4-6k less than the compass
@@BlackJeepConvertible Holy crud!😳
@@jeffmorse645 yeah I wanted to get the compass for the self parking, but with the chip shortage none of them have that feature anymore. Plus the Tucson turns your gauge cluster into blind spot cameras when you turn on your turn signal along with 10 year warranty and a lot more interior room.
When they start offering the big rebates I might be interested in a new truck.
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You nailed this one, Ben!!
I had got a 2018 JL wrangler Sahara, which I still have with the pentastar V6 in the eight speed automatic it came from the dealer already with the installed 2.5 inch lift kit in the fox shocks that come with it and 35 inch tires we ended up paying around 65K for it which I thought was high for the time, but now it seems like a reasonable price especially of the prices of the 4xes and Rubicons today also so far the engine and transmission have been reliable. It’s just more dealing with the dealership service center which is a pain when there’s small issues but currently I’m waiting for Toyota to bring back the Land Cruiser or the redesigned 4Runner if I do trade it in one day.
My choice was gladiator but end up getting Tacoma because of the price
Tacoma way more reliable bro. Not what it used to be by any means just like jeep bit the taco 2.7L and v6 are tough motors.
I agree the Jeep image is completely different then when I was growing up. My family has had many Jeeps over the years and they all lasted forever. My parents still have a 2008 Grand Cherokee with tons of miles and they drive it all the time with very little issues. Like you said Jeep always was a brand that seem to be built for ruggedness and appeared to be tough. Now they have the image of a prissy Range Rover. Except for the wrangler and the gladiator all the other models just seems to appear to look like the rest of the vehicles on the market. There’s no toughness appeal to them like you would expect out of the Jeep brand of the past. I like the Gladiator for the most part but I think they definitely missed the mark. The base model looks very weird with the small wheels and the long body which is a big turn off as I hear people all the time say they hate the look of it. I think they should not have made the gladiator look like the the wrangler but more like a traditional truck that was more rugged looking like the gladiators of old. Most people looking for a midsize truck I feel do not care to remove the roof. And if they would remove the 4 door only option and have a two door long bed then that would help out the gladiator. If they did that I would definitely be in the market for one. I have plenty of vehicles to haul people but would like to have a single cab long bed midsize for hauling items and not people. One other thing Jeep needs to do is change their option package for the Wrangler. The Wrangler is known for its outstanding toughness with bear minimum options. I feel you should be able to option a basic Wrangler with all the beefed up drive train and suspension components without getting all the luxury items. My wife has a rubicon and it perfect for her since it has the luxury items for everyday use and we still off road with it. But for me I could careless about those items for my vehicle but would love to have a base Jeep options with rubicon drive train. I drive a 95 wrangler now as my daily and love the basics of it but the drive train is weak. If Jeep sold a base Jeep with rubicon drive train I think it would sell very well but I know they make a huge profits by making people buy the upscale rubicon model. They could easily appease more people by offering both more rugged looking lower end models and a more luxury looking higher end of each model. This is just my opinions though.
Jeep’s suck
Wranglers and gladiators build quality is atrocious. Buy a Toyota
Our 2008 Commander has 235k miles on it and just keeps going...2008 Liberty has 185k miles on it...neither has any mechanical failures. Both have been excellent.
I dont understand why people are upset that jeep is making higher end luxury vehicles when they still make rugged wranglers.
They dont have to stick to one area.
@@DorDeKrey I feel most cars were more dependable decades ago. The new ones all have issues including Toyota and Honda.
I know you mentioned the cloth interior but in 2021 I bought both a Wrangler and a Gladiator and one of the requirements I had for both vehicles is a cloth interior. I didn't want leather. Both vehicles are stripped down for the summer and leather isn't going to fare well under bright sunlight all day long. I paid the extra to make sure both vehicles were equipped with all of the off road goodies and electronics, stereo, etc but other than color that was it. I wasn't even fussy about engine choices. I'm still happy with my choice although I am definitely going to be looking for the next gen of Gladiator. I think there are going to be some big surprises.
The Grand Cherokee is a beast of a SUV. Something you definitely want to own however not everyone afford it. I have one. Was the best purchase I ever made.
I agree with you, But I still buying one Ben.
My opinion: get rid of the Renegade, Compass and Cherokee. Focus on the real solid off road RELIABLE platforms such as the Wrangler and Gladiator. The Grand Cherokee is a good platform as well just maybe focus more on its off road aspects and ditch the ultra high end trims.
Every brand needs solid entry vehicles to pull customers into the brand. They needed to continually refresh and redesign them over the years and work on reliability, not 86 them.
It all those extras they pile on - panoramic sunroof, premium sound system, navigation, leather seats, etc. I had a GC L but traded it after less than a year.
I purchased a Gladiator Mojave last December and received a good deal, great trade-in value and it was all good...the usual dealer nonsense but the transaction itself was pretty good...
I wouldnt buy it with my own money
Yikes. I just factory ordered a 23 Chevy ZR2 with a bunch of options and that only turned out to be 54k MSRP. That Gladiator at 63k is 9k more with cloth seats.
I do think Jeep should put itself in the premium brand category similarly to Mazda. Not quite luxury, but not an economy brand. That said, even economy cars of today have more luxury than many luxury car brands had in the mid 2000s. Really, I feel like the only things I would miss out is the excessive amounts of performance and massaging seats over a loaded Toyota or Chevy.
Id rather watch jeep die and be dead for good than to watch jeep flopling like a dying fish that got thrown out of the water tank onto the hot sand in the desert. Take this lame horse behind the barn and out it out of its mysery right along side ford, chevy, Ram, honda and toyota. Theyre all dead to me. Grand heist Scam artists and nothing more. Auto imdustry is such trash right now. I hate all this trash theyre trying to rob us to get rid of. Wouldnt suprise me if these engineers use velcro because they never learned to tie their shoes because they got a gender studies degree in joe bidens corrupt usa thays enslaved to joe bidens boss, the communist chinese regime. Jeep went from ww2 champion to ww3 LOSEERRR after they became dependant on pur greatest enemies for survival, the chinese communist regime
Jeep cant survive being a luxury brand. They cant even made a reasonable vehicle people want to buy. We are betrer off putting jeep ohtnof its misery and starting a new compamy thats not been destroyed that makes jeeps better than how they used to be instead of worse
I don't like where Stellantis is taking things. The styling is becoming more European. They are killing off popular models and drive trains. I bought a 2023 Grand Cherokee Altitude last September. That's a base Laredo with a blackout package. No selectable drive modes. It has heated seats but didn't come with a tow hitch. And its all-wheel-drive, which is not a true 4x4. My first snow in it I was all over the road. That could have been the tires but who knows? In short my new Jeep is not a Jeep. I wish I hadn't gotten it. I paid 50 grand for a glorified grocery hauler and I hate it.
Well done video.
Whoa, didn’t know you had some WV roots Ben! Definitely correct that the older Cherokees were known for the reliability!!! I know people that buy those up used for their work fleet!
Η jeep τα μοντέρνα wrangler και grand cherokee ειναι πολύ ακριβσ Για εν wrangler στοιχίζει γύρω στα 92οοο € και ενα grand cherokee γύρω στις 98000€ για trail hawk συν περιμένεις 8-9 μηνες και δεν ξέρεις εαν θα πληρώσεις παραπάνω Καλημερα από Αθήνα greece
I could not agree more Ben! They also didn’t see major production issues during the pandemic like other manufacturers did and another reason they sold more during that time. Now between more competition and their inflated prices they are feeling the downturn. They also have the same old boring powertrains in which need to be updated but have gone woke electric. Where is the twin turbo in-line 6? It should be available in the Grand Cherokee, Wrangler and Gladiator months ago! The pentastar while overall reliable is a very boring torqueless engine to drive and not a premium driving experience to go with their premium prices. Nobody wants to spend $70k for a pentastar powered vehicle!!
I think your takes are absolutely bang on, Ben. I went from my loaded Wrangler JKUR that I bought new in 2012 for $45k CANADIAN, and in 2021 I bought a Ranger Tremor instead of a Wrangler. I'd love to still have a wrangler, but the prices are downright stupid. A two door sport with ZERO options now starts at $43k! Its a joke. You call it how it is.
I started my life with a 64 jeep Wagoneer. No air conditioning only power steering power brakes and three on the tree. Great four-wheel-drive vehicle for the time. Then I moved up to a 93 grand Cherokee with the VA now I just drove by raptor.
I really like the new jeep product coming in 2024. But agree with most pricing of all makes is out of control for most who are living month to month thx to Brandon's economic disaster.
Sadly Jeep is no longer the simple, rugged utility vehicle. Much like anything else that has become "fashionable", Jeep has lost it's soul. Crappy quality, crappy handling, grossly overpriced. Much better choice is a Toyota 4Runner. I have purchased five new Jeeps in my lifetime. My next vehicle is a 4Runner TRD Pro. Much better quality for less money.
Toyota was recently voted number 9 out of 10 in overall quality from Eastern manufacturers. You might want to look in to that. They are using alot of scratch and dent parts on their new cars so they can get them out the door.
@@jaylee8542 Where are you getting this insane information from? Foolish
I agree. Prices are out of control. Not mentioned in this video - resale values. We have 3 Jeeps in our household 99 Wrangler TJ Sahara(daughter's), 2020 Wrangler Sahara Ecodiesel (wife's), 2023 Wrangler Rubicon Ecodiesel (mine). We bought the 99 TJ used, 5 yrs ago. Everything we've spent on it for repairs & upgrades we'll get back when we sell it again. Selling our fully loaded 2014 VW Touareg tdi for nearly the same price as the 99 Jeep that is 15 yrs older, twice the mileage, and almost NO creature comforts...
The 2020 has dropped about 15% from MSRP in 3 yrs.
Was in the GC Trailhawk 4×E loved the interior. Felt substantial, however I'm concerned about the power train. On paper the power torque and mpgs are great. Is a 2.0 turbo married to electric motors going to work? How much will it cost to fix? Oh yeah it costs 70k, that could be a problem ad well. I remember just 5 years ago you could get a fully optioned Ram 1500 for 50/55 K. Now that same truck is pushing 80K. That's a massive jump.
I absolutely love my gladiator (launch edition). The bed is fine for what i need it for. My only negative is the 3.6 which is blah. I'd love to do a 392 or hellcat swap but those are 40-60k and thats just a big LOL
Im not dumb ebough to love a gladiator. Its a scam deception. Its anything but a gladiator. Jeep is collapsing lime rome. Slowly and painfully over years and theyre sucking everyones money into the fire while they do it
Yup, like others have said, their prices are out of control and their prices don't match the quality provided. I have yet to talk to a Jeep owner that can't provide a list of problems their cars have had and been in the dealer service center for or are scheduled to be in the service center.
Price. I purchased a new Sahara in 2012 for under 40K at end of year sale, marked down from 44K. Now same thing cost 60K+, it is now out of my budget.
Prices are crazy, I bought a 2018 JLU sport base model for $27k can't find one near that cheap. That was just walking on a lot and getting the manufacturer deal they had at the time. Wish I hadn't traded it now.
this is a piece of why I have no confidence in publicly held companies or basing exec compensation on short term thinking.
I wanted a Gladiator Rubicon. I have the money but the smart mid size buy is a Tacoma TRD OffRoad imo or TRD Pro if you have the money. I'll wait for the 2024 Tacoma vs a Jeep that is usually plagued with issues. I'm also keeping Raptors on my list I've been seeing some low mileage used options in the $50-$60k range where they belong.
There are a lot of jeeps up here in Alaska! It is one of the most useful vehicles for our long winters and muddy warm monthes.
They messed up the most by having too many new Jeeps at the sametime. I live in MI and a lot of people always had the newest jeep in the past, but hell most still only have one vehicle at a time and they came out with a new generation Jeep Grand Cherokee, a Cherokee L which is new, and the Wagoneer which is also new, all at the sametime.
I can’t wrap my brain around these prices. I paid $32,000 for the home I currently live in. I’m sure it’s value is over $100,000 today. That 50 or 60 thousand dollar vehicle is only going to depreciate!
I loved my 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland. It was 35k new and I got it used for 27k. Recently the transmission went out for a second time and I really wanted to upgrade to the new model however the overland model goes for like 60k+ way out of my budget. Even the Laredo is quite pricey.
Why would you buy another after two transmission failures? Are you a glutton for punishment?
It's people like you that keep these companies building junk. Keep giving your money away
My personal experience with jeeps only apply to previous owner ship...back when they were utilitarian with affordable pricing.. in the past five years this has been ignored for profit...too bad
The current prices on these new cars is just freaking outrageous.
My used accord sedan is better than the news ones and its 15 years old. Has more power, more simple drivetrain, less plastic and more things like caste aluminum aor intake rather than plastic... i plan on keeping it but i also list it for sale because i want to save up to buy an even older motorcycle because the suzuki dr650 has been totally unchanged for its still running decades long production. So i can get a glass headlight, and if i need something like a repalcement oil filter cap, i can use any ond from like the alst 30 years of production. And also my insurance is cheaper, it gets better than prius mpg, and i need to be able to go offroad for a couple of my hobbies. But what sucks is people love those old bikes, so they arent cheap for being a reminant of the engineers in the 80s... but at least those guys werent dumb enough to do a plastic headlight
One thing that puzzles me is the 2023 Grand Cherokee Trailhawk. It is seriously rugged and off road capable. I have one that I bought in 2021(WKII version) with the well sorted Pentastar V6 and proven ZF designed 8 speed transmission. I am confident in it's reliability with that powertrain. However the new one is now only offered in 4XE. Why not offer it with a lower cost, simpler (maybe higher reliability) ICE engine? This trim starts in the low 60s and is easily $65-67k with a couple of option packages. I bought my '21 new for $42.7k (had some generous discounts to lower the 49k MSRP, though). Yes, the new one is nicer and even slightly more capable but I still believe you shouldn't be forced to pay such a steep price - especially the cost increase due to being forced into the 4XE.
Price is very high. I bought my 2022 Grand Cherokee Limited for 52k but got a 7k discount. I think Jeep usually puts large incentives to make them look more appealing but I could be wrong
You just smugged all of those windows. Great video
Bought a 2023 Jeep Grand Wagoneer with the top trim level. Had it for 24 hours and the entertainment system completely went out and then the brake system had a catastrophic failure. We had to limp it into the dealership. Told them to shred the paperwork and turned the keys back into the dealership. 109k…what a waste of time and money.
We have our Jeep Wrangler since 2011. It's done us well....still doing so. I really don't think the new ones are the same quality. We rented a new one in St John and that engine and transmission was making some super stressed sounds. Jeeps are great little things on trails, steep loose rocky paths and I like it for long trips too. I like them, I just don't know if I want a new one after reading about the issues.
We are a two jeep family - she drives a jeep wrangler rubicon four door four cylinder with a turbo, i drive a gladiator rubicon with the 3.6 gas engine. We like our rigs and have no problems with them.
Went to arrigo jeep in sawgrass Florida. And they were charging 89k for a wrangler with a kit. Base price was 32k. You tell me how they have a “kit” for almost 3 times the price of the vehicle itself. And a Wrangler 392 with a 18k “demand markup”. Insane.
Ben your right the old jeeps, even the 93 Grand cherokee with a 4.0, it had the fender flares, the 4x4 look was built into it. If all the cherokees had a variation of the trailhawk it would still be selling. They also need a 250hp 4cyl as standard. I wanted the gladiator bad when it first came out, but ended up getting a ram 2500 for the same price!! Make a 5.7 hemi jeep for crying out loud or get a 300hp standard hurricane 6. Anybody can see the way out of the tunnel except their marketing apparently . Love your content
May of 2021 I was looking at a Gladiator Rubicon. Could have bought it for 48k. Ended up getting a 2door Wrangler Rubicon for 43k. Had it less than a year, was having some issues, local Jeep dealer is crap. Traded in for a 22 4Runner Off-road. Quality difference is night and day and the Toyota dealer is great.