Apple is More ANTI-REPAIR Than Ever...
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In this video, we assess how repairable Apple's new Vision Pros are. We purchased two of them to complete this test. We'll take parts from either Vision Pro and swap them over to see if there are any anti-repair tactics hidden. Given these headsets are $3500 we hope they are as repairable as repairable can get, but after this test, we'll know the truth.
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Chapters:
0:00 What is Parts Serialization?
0:50 How to Open The Apple Vision Pro
3:03 My Screw Organization Method
3:26 Tearing Down The Vision Pro
5:28 Nuts...
6:02 Removing The Board
6:20 THE SWAP
8:53 Non-Genuine Messages?
9:11 Getting Apps on the Vision Pro in Canada
11:39 Testing for Repairability Issues
12:03 Is the Apple Vision Pro Repairable? - Věda a technologie
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I been hearing apple vision pro getting new cracks from the middle
Yoooo! whats up @PhoneRepairGuru
Hi
It would be cool if someone could combine the quest with the Apple vision
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If I buy a $3500 headset I want it to be as fixable as possible if it breaks, and I don’t even want it to break because I’ll pay $3500 for it lol
Its like buying a 🚗
Just don't buy it in the first place, smh
@@OverTheHorizon840 not wrong
S*it man
@@swimmerjosiah you can fix a car at any shop... just not EV
Seems like Apple is going for bricking the devices if they are repaired. I was right about Apple wanting to try killing off 3rd party repairs and have everyone purchase new devices everytime something goes wrong. The worst part is the e-waste Apple is causing. Yet they say they are going green. That’s just tragic
Wow, big company not giving a shit about consumers or the environment, surprising!
Every big tech companies are all about profits today, yet they use the word "Carbon Neutral" along with a sketched plan about how they're doing it, just so they could stay out of trouble!
It’s not promoting ewaste because they want you to give the old devices back to them when you buy a new one. They aren’t making repairs impossible, they are making reasonably priced repairs at third party repair shops impossible. They want you to go to them and spend a fortune for repairs.
It’s greedy, not environmentally harmful. They recycle the old devices and reuse the materials.
Governments should mandate apple to allow third party repair, and make it law that they must allow it, and put sanctions on them if they don't obey.
@@tjadejoh Not every country has an Apple Store, and they don't do it for a fair price either. They have raised repair prices close enough or sometimes even more than a new device, to make you buy a new one rather than replacing its parts!
I have been repairing electronics for 20 years and I have to say: your screw organizing idea is genius
Up your game if that’s genius
@@alittlepickle8632 I wasn’t being literal…genius
@@alittlepickle8632 A decently skilled repair person is fully capable of not using more optimal organization and technique if they haven’t thought of it or seen it.
Past mistakes that are consciously corrected for is what makes a master.
He's not called a guru for nothing
Nice name btw
Not gonna lie, the giant picture of the object with Operation-style cutouts for the screws is brilliant.
I made something like that for the splash guards underneath our Tesla model S. There are so many different screws and retaining PopClips very aggravating if you don’t have it.
I’d start to do this when i tear my chicken. It works when i wanna put it back
Used to do this as a kid when I tinkered inside nerf guns
I prefer placing the screws in the same but miniature pattern somewhere on my table to not mess up the different and unlabelled screws.
Dear EU, please stop this madness.
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There is a reason this product only lauchend in the USA. 1. The audience there is dumb enough to spend this much money for this product. 2. Its super anti consumer
You can’t buy it in EU though
Ach das wird schon glaub mir
@@FUZASHIIIyeah we fucking can. I'm looking on a large retail webshop similar to Amazon exclusive to the Netherlands and Belgium right now and apple is selling the headset for €4841
Wow, I must say thank you for this vid. I cant imagine how much time it took you to record all this. Especially during the replacement and trying all those combinations all over again
Just take a look at Apple's stock prices lately, it speaks volumes of their non-repairable products.
Yeah..I’ve try something similar when doing repair and I really don’t wanna do it more than once 🥹🥹🥹🥹
Costs as much as a decent second hand car but is not repairable in any way. Insane..
and dummies buy them!
I want to live where you are. 3500 barely gets you a running car around me
@Jon-id7ki You can get almost immaculate Saab 9-5s for 2700 here in the PNW, and that's above bluebook standards.
its a saab who wants one?
@@agentv1240
you either have dankpods levels of standards when it comes to cars, or you live in heaven economy wise.
This video is actually crazy. Can't believe how long this must have taken
Agree
and 7,000 dollars
Plus shipping @@arandomguy46
This definitely has potential for a lawsuit. Serialized parts being used to prevent 3rd party repairs is directly against the Magnuson-Moss Act in the USA and several EU laws. A company cannot legally force a consumer to use their own warranty services.
I think if more people realized that Serialized Parts exist right now then there definitely will be a good court case against Apple. Sadly most will settle out of court.
Naaah....the most effective way to punish a company for doing crap like this, is just not buying their products....ever. I never bought an apple product in my life, I'll never buy one.
@@OutsidersRo ive had apple devices gifted to ke and i just get rid of it or leave it in a bin to collect dust. The shit isn't worth using with as locked down as they are and as much as they make them sealed boxes made of unobtanium id rather never bother to learn their shitty os.
@@OutsidersRosadly that isnt going to work with the amount of momentum apple has, people are going to buy their stuff. only way to solve this is to FORCE them to change it, type c should show as an example, if they have to comply to sell in a market, they will. vote for your right to repair
@@OutsidersRo actually EU lawsuits are really hurtful to any company because they are % based
@@OutsidersRo Never buying an apple product ever protects you very well, but not everyone else dumb enough to buy apple products, sadly. But that's on them. They will either learn their lesson or have enough money to not care.
Can I use other hands with my Vision Pro or are my hands also serialized?
In the future it might!
(gives headset to someone) "Non-genuine human detected!"
@@trevorhaddox6884 😂
@@trevorhaddox6884”Poor person detected calling the police.”
Future apple anti theft protection lol
This is apple being apple, nothing new here. I wasn't expecting anything else really. However I gotta give it to you @Phone Repair Guru, that is some patience right there, those screws man, ouch.
Screws are always welcome in a device. Lots of screws is always the better solution.
Clips break, especially has the plastic ages with thermal cycles , glue is shit obviously. And if you want any form of rigidity, you need multiple layers of material that are fastened together, Ideally using screws. Device that cares about the submillimeter alignment of all of its relative sensors, displays, etc. sort of needs to use a lot of screws or a lot of unremovable glue.
@@hishnashYup will take screws over glues anyday
@@hishnash the problem is not with the screws, but with the fact there's like 5 types of them
@isaev281 Using the same screw everywhere means your making the device a good bit larger (or giving up on streth were yo need it). How often are you opening this deice? im not sure having multiple types of screws is such a big issue.
infact if they could find a way to secure the front display with screws (even if that was adding another type of them) rather than thermal devolving glue I would be happy.
@@hishnash they don't have to use 7 different kinds though XD
Bro you have done too much, and give so much information and work in a 13 min video, you surely deserve more engagement than untill now.
this is definitely going to help the whole repairing community over the youtube and others too.
Keep up man
I kinda saw that coming. Apple seems so forget that we paid for the device. They have trouble letting go so make a problem that they know about. They release the product, and then want to continuously update to fix the problem they already knew about.
You’re sort of forgetting what calibration is.
There’s no way you’ll get the quality pass-through and tracking if you’re using uncalibrated phone grade cameras, every every single one comes off the production line has defects the raw data you get from a camera center of that size is basically garbage.
@@hishnashThen let me replace the parts and see for myself. Not letting the headset turn on is not bad calibration, it's an invasive approach to holding the headset hostage until you send it to them.
@@PoggersPogyou could always replace parts you want. Since when did Apple gonna sue costumer for repairing their own device?
@@PoggersPogthey have as much right to void warranty as you have right to repair.
A perfect first gen device isn’t a business, you might felt great as customer, but the companies are gonna crash if all businesses follow that ideology. Also, by your logic, there shouldn’t be quest2 or 3…there shouldn’t be any update in this world .
Imagine a lightbulb that last hundreds of years..you think that company is gonna have growth?
YOU BOUGHT TWO??????????????
Second one was for our sake
That's why there was this as Apple being a Bad Apple
who will forbid the rich?
The screens are a little under 4K, and the price is a little under 4K….
I think pairing hardware has nothing to do with software visual alignment and more to do with cash flow and control. Why else make the front glass cost $800 bucks to replace when it scraches as easily as a hellow kitty wrist watch at a level 2 your guaranteed to scratch it day one.
The front plastic has also been cracking down the middle now so appears build quality isn’t as good as initially thought
Which is funny because you’d think you’d get max build quality for 35 hundred dollars but Apple pulled an Apple instead.
@@engineerbot apple are cheaping out because they know that the apple meatriders will snap it right up, even if what they sell is absolute garbage. they're getting lazy and they're getting away with it
@@engineerbothow is this in any way “Apple pulling an Apple”? Their products are usually have very good build quality. The build quality of MacBooks is unparalleled, for example.
Even this one has a good build quality, despite the obvious flaw. It’s much higher quality than the quest 3 which is made out of cheap feeling plastic.
@ightning6742 Hundreds of Vision Pro's are now overheating causing the front screen to crack and the Right speaker is getting so hot it's turning white and then the sound stops working for good. If you think this is good build quality then you're wrong it might even end up being a full recall for all Vision Pro's. Quest 3 is 7 x less in price does pretty much the same stuff and doesn't have these issues. IMO I think i know what product has been built better.
@@flashlightning6742 the meat riding is crazy
Bro I'm seriously amazed how cleanly you opened the vision pro
Your work is just next level ❤
Thank you :) all it takes is one failed attempt
@@PhoneRepairGuru I bet man
Just did a full optics swap on my htc vive pro eye yesterday.
Upgraded to better displays and lenses, works flawlessly!
what does this even have to do with the video,,,,,,,,,
It's irony, an ironic joke.
@@CelesteWuff its the irony, apple would never allow something like that, thats one reason why i see the whole vision pro as a stupid product. No possibility to repair or upgrade the internals, closed ecosystem so no possibilities of open source software projects or even proper steamvr support.
@@kaikios yeah... thats kinda... the point
it's an AR headset... not a VR headset
@@CelesteWuff Well, i dont really see the point you are chasing here, all AR headsets (except for AR glasses, which are a completely different concept) are just VR headsets with some cameras and software trickery.
So doing SteamVR should be completely possible, im not saying that augmented reality is useless, but why not make virtual reality also easily available since the hardware is obviously there.
Also, making the device's firmware act in a way that makes repairing impossible even with genuine parts, is pretty scummy wouldnt you agree?
Unless AR headset stands for anti repair headset...
anyone that goes that hard to keep you from fixing what's your, DOESN'T need your money.
Damn! I can’t imagine the amount of hours it took to take apart, swap, and test these Vision Pros. Liked, commented, and subscribed. Thank you for your efforts!
I must say thank you for this vid
I can't imagine how much time it took you to record all this
I really see the effort you put into this video. Thanks for that
We are running out of money with this one 🔥🔥🔥🗣️🗣️🗣️ 💸💸
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Fr
Thank you PRG!!
Bro this was fantastic! The amount of time you put in, all the what if scenarios, and the sponsor spot made sense for this video!!
Big props, I hope your wallet and your patience are doing alright.
Much appreciated!
I don't care if I need to go to school tomorrow (i live in Austria). I am staying up and watching this. PRG if you are reading this i love you vids. You and other people taught me how to repair stuff. Thanks for the experience (btw I started with computers since i was 5 yrs old)
Areyou a painter?
@@FardeenPlayz no I am not
seawas von wo bist
@@nonshavedposeidon5041 Niederösterreich. Und du?
Subscribed. Just because of how much you did to make this video possible. Never unsubscribing again. Respect
why do i have to be at school when the premiere starts😭
11:11 “because they are such a chill company” 😬
Thank you
Watching from Morocco
You are most welcome ❤
This video is a point of reference for the entire world of Internet. Thank you for all the efforts you put in its making.
Also, why I'm not surprised of Apple behaviour, in applying full anti-repair protocol with their visor?
Thank you
Anthony
The only good thing about the Vision Pro was seeing Mark Zuckerberg regret his life choices while trying it on 😂
Isnt it illigal to make a device anti 3rd-party repair? Like i heard somewhere apple got sued and was forced to make parts available and be able to be repaired by 3rd party vendors cuz what apple was doing was seen as extremly preditory and anti consumer by forcing people to go through them to repair their devices and have the repair price be extremely high and sometimes more then the cost of the device brand new and apple was even forced to stop coding their devices to purposfully slow down and become obsolete and basically forcing people to pay tons of money for newer up-to-date devices which is also illigal and preditory.
That was about phones and computers, probably. VR devices are different!
Up the good work. It's been informative
Well done for doing better this time - last time i was kinda surprised that it worked lol
Apple vision pro is lookin expensive rn
For any one wondering , You can also use Kapton tape over the front plastic incase you don't want to melt the plastic accidentally
this is legit phenomenal work
Hi, I think you are such cool guy I just started watching your vids thank you for making these.
What I don't understand is why was there a lawsuit for right to repair and they made it even harder to repair new iphones..
$3500 for headset, $4500 for repair bill haha :D
Why make me wait 2 hours 😭😭😭 I want to watch it now. Dinners ready.
not gonna lie actually the greatest tech repair shop and the greatest technician that ever existed ... keep going you're a legend 💖💖
Imagine buying and ""owning"" a car but not be able to repair it if it's broken ..... Oh wait
John deere tracktors.
Most Car Manufacturers were like that
$3500 Erm no thanks one person did a break down how much every part cost was just under $1200 😂
So much work man
Really impressive work on this one. Your second headset might be the only one in the world to be independently dissembled and reassembled with zero damage
Finger down until you learn not to scam your followers with advertisements that scam your users.
Disassembly and assembly back my son toy’s one time,
and its already a nightmare for me (with few extra screws). 😂
And you do this over and over again with tons of screws from Apple.
Respect!!! 🤩😄
Thank you for this vid
Isn't unrepairable against EU regulations these days?
Isn't it only sold in the us right now?
That’s why it’s not available in the EU
Can we all like vote for EU to ban glue-assembled electronics? Can we just force everyone to use bolts and gaskets like normal people? Is this an option? I genuinely wanna know.
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The glue and seals make the phones and watches water resistant
@@crowdyhouse8417 You can do the same with bolts and a silicone inserts. Glue makes the phone pretty much irreparable for those without special equipment.
@@crowdyhouse8417you don't need glue to make stuff waterproof, for example we used to have a small camera, with an easily removable battery and sd card, that was waterproof and you could even take swimming in the ocean
Thank you for such a comprehensive tear down video
Mad respect to this dude! Assembling, disassembling, and then re-assembling all of those fussy little components just to show us how repairable this piece of tech is.
I swear Apple will do anything to make a buck
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Stop buying apple products ffs.
Say it to the chinese
The soft power drill sound effects are so freaking funny
For what it’s worth, Serializing the FaceID and any other biometrics modules does actually make sense.
The face data is stored within the chip and is never actually readable by the device, so if the chip weren’t serialized, you could get into somebody else’s iPhone by swapping out the FaceID module.
Naturally, that also means you have to serialize the drive (because otherwise you could swap out the drive), so, that too makes sense.
The non-authentication/storage modules being serialized is still BS, tho.
It should let you wipe the data and start over in that case. So it's not a real excuse, but Apple uses it as justification when the real purpose is blocking the customer's right to repair.
I mean, you run into this exact same scenario with PCs, and when you've changed a part that affects security, it gives you the option to wipe data and start over. Apple's excuse doesn't fly.
@@SargonDragon Fair enough, but I would argue that going with, “this is a bit sketch, want to wipe your data to continue?” is pretty antithetical to Apple’s overall design tendencies.
I’m not saying that it’s the best solution, but it is remarkably hard to fuck up an Apple device and lose your data. If that means that they wind up serializing the storage and security modules, I’m not going to complain. Then again, I’m the one that gets called when a tech problem happens in my family, so I value some of these things significantly more than average (yes, I realize that serialization won’t protect my relatives because they would never pop their phone apart - it’s the overall pattern that I like). It’s also why I still called the rest of the serialization BS - serializing things like the camera is exclusively anti-repair.
Thanks for taking the incredible amount of time and dedication to make this video. It was both interesting and informative. Subscribed.
You videos are awesome
"Its Apple's house so you gotta pay the rent, you shouldn't expect these luxuries" - An Apple drone I saw once
The screw organizer is a stroke of genius
Just curious did you have Apple ID logged in or find my app on before you did the swap?
As a new yorker, I feel honored
Finally bro is back
From where do you get your screen from because i want a 10.5 inch screen for my docomo f04h tab
5:50 Those should be a part of your iFixit set if you didn't buy the smallest one
Woah, you guys did so much work into this video
Babe wake up , Apple Vision Pro repairability test is out 🔥🔥🔥
Thanks for your work!
You aware the tap you removed over a screw is an EMI shield. Metal screws can become mini antennas to pass EM certification little shields like this are added to many devices
Well done repairing this product repairing this product requires extreme precision well done bro
hey PRG my friend gave me an iPhone 7 and it has a weird problem. it says an update is required to active your iphone . found the problem online but no solution . also the reapair sofwares costs too much .
I made it to recovery mode and tried to update the sofware using apple devices app but after downloading full 5 gb it caused error midway when installing it . maybe 32 gb storage is too little.
For replacing battery make sure to take the little chip into the new one😊
Imagine if we actually had a mixed reality headset that was repairable and upgradable
uuuuuuuh i saw your serial number for the apple vision pro and when i went to check it was actually there i found it
0:54 you have made my day with the smallest amount of editing
This reminds me a lot of the John Deere tractor reparing situation
That screw keeping is genius idea
What would be cool is if apple's headsets could view other people with headsets customised AR avatars and accessories also this headset has always felt like a stepping stone to a new visionary product, maybe even 4k AR contacts that work wirelessly with the iPhone for the processing power or even 4k glasses with the wireless processing
I don't think even apple knew the right combo to get it working. well done mate. this was entertaining as well as informative at the same time.
He said “these nuts” 🤣🤣🤣
The consumer friendly approach would be to include an option for the user to calibrate sensors after replacement. Unless it's technically impossible without additional hardware.
Think about what you just said, if they had to disclose the method they'd make the calibration dependant on additional hardware. Check.
@@Utrilus That's a valid point. Although what I meant was that during manufacturing they probably use some kind of rig with test targets, etc. to calibrate the sensors.
Thanks for the amazing video. One thing I don't get is Apple having their developers make the software to lock in the hardware when they could be working on something else.
3:27 - that’s a genius way to store the screws
With Apple being Apple, I definitely expected more stuff to be serialized. But I didn't expect the serialized stuff to completly brick the headset. I'm wondering how long it will take someone to find a loophole that allows for 3rd party repairs
The loophole better be "Class action lawsuit, billions awarded" cause apple and its ilk need to learn this isn't ok and wont fly.
Apple removes charging docks from iPhone boxes "because, you know, at Apple, we have an environmentally conscious vision for our products." However, if you want to repair one of their products, "oh no, you have to go through us again and probably end up buying a new one.
Thats crazy bro for 3500usd headset
This deserves more views .
"It's time to cook" bro took that literally 💀
the way he uses the gameshow as memes lol
Electronic manufacturers should be legally obligated to provide disassembly instructions on request within 24 hours of release.
In Europe. A Vision pro costs € 4000,-
I can instead buy a complete top notch gaming rig for:
Case: €150
Power Supply Unit (PSU): €150
Motherboard (Mobo): €100
Central Processing Unit (CPU): €350
Cooler: €50
Random Access Memory (RAM): €100
1TB Solid State Drive (SSD): €150
1st 4K Monitor: €450
2nd 4K Monitor: €450
RTX 4090 Graphics Card: €1850
Now let’s add up the costs:
Total = €150 + €150 + €100 + €350 + €50 + €100 + €150 + €450 + €450 + €1850 = €3950
So, a VR headset, that's terrible for gaming, unwieldy for productivity, no repair support, 2-hour battery life, uncomfortable to wear, etc.
Or
A 2x4k monitor RTX 4090 Microsoft rig that's cheap to repair if damaged.
For that gear Id take at least €200 PSU, but you're totally right!
Hi please I’m having an issue with my iPhone 12 Pro.
It goes off some times and doesn’t come back on until the battery is totally drained I know this cause it will just show the charging logo and that like after 16 hours or there about
Great video but a VPN isn't a layer of security.
5:33 important tidbit right here
just have to restore after replacing parts like Mac Studio
Bro, you can make, apple vision pro with Android system?