Are You Riding Your Onewheel Wrong? The Pros Can't Agree - Learning With Leary 13 - Season Finale
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 2. 07. 2024
- In this epic season finale, Jeff and Bodhi join Jake for three different perspectives on Onewheel stance.
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What are your thoughts? How do you like to ride?
Haven't figured out my ride style yet, trying new things every time I get on it. Just enjoying the ride đ€ only 1 bail so far đ
One of the homies on the group rides calls me the orangutan because of my riding stance, which is basically drop real low whenever I maneuver a 180 especially a backside and if I ever see any kind of danger whether I think it might shake my wheel or not I take a very low stance. It's a comfort thing just like when I'm snowboarding too fast I'll shrink my body to be a little smaller I guess
THIS is the video I needed to see. Veteran skateboarder and snowboarder since the late 80s, about to buy a OneWheel, and this is super helpful and well explained, going to check out the rest of the series!
I think i mesh all three...
I call it the "pazo steeze"
I imagine myself as a bobble head and just let the weight sway đ€Ł
I'm like self correcting robot... go with the flow ninjađ€đœ
@@hawkwind769 đ brilliant!
Would love to have a Learning with Leary on tire pressures.
^^^Yes!
Yes here as well!
Yes yes
Yup yup
This would be dope
Bodhi Harrison: "I don't care if I fall". I used to think like that when I was in my 20's đ . Now in my 40's, I care a great deal if I fall! Can't wait to buy my pint x in the coming months.
Do it, you will thank yourself later!
@@redboyjan . Done it, best decision I've made in a long time đ
@@Random_vids- it's hard to explain how amazing these things are to those who haven't learnt ow. I can confirm they just get better too, crazy how that feeling never gets boring or stail or anything
I just bought an xr in my 40s. Practiced recovery rolling in the garage lol. Nose dived 3 times the first two days of riding going up hill on grass. Was able to run it off but I can now see how easy it is to do so I ride full gear now until I get my one wheel legs. It's way different then my skateboarding 20 years ago lol. But so much fun
But when you were in your 20s, did you have a lot of experience with using the correct technique to fall without destroying your body?
He's not saying it in a reckless youngster kind of way, per se.
Or maybe we're already on the same page, in which case yea it definitely wouldn't get more pleasant with age, even if the technique is still great.
this is probably the best safety video for the one wheel . I think every rider should watch this for sure . I've been riding a long time on a skateboard prior to floating and I gotta say just having someone break down the posture I think is helpful to be more mindful of my own ride characteristics from here on .
Stoked we could help!
Sadly it isn't discussed in the community any more
Looking at all these stance variations, I realise that I do them all, switching it up for different speeds and terrain. So I suspect you all agree really, just favour different variations due to the kind of riding you do more.
also their body types prob have an effect too right?
This series is just so damn good! Thanks guys, I can not wait to meet you all, your insight, willingness to share, along with the thought that has gone into the series is unparalleled. Serious Aoxo ~!~
At 9:20, that is the best analogy I've ever heard about riding a OneWheel. Right on Bodhi!!
This whole video is excellent. I'll definitely recommend it to beginners. Thinking of the number of units of energy was helpful from Jeff. All of this is super thoughtful and well presented with examples. I'm like Bodhi in terms of ride stance when going fast.
People really need to KNOW THIS! What this mean is if XRs max speed is 25 and your doing 25 and you run over a twig your going down. 20 and hit too steep of a slope..canât compute..nose dive!
Thanks for taking the time and energy to put these out there, cheers!
So awesome to hear from the pro riders and this is one of the best TFL videos out there for people to take a closer looking into the Onewheel and best ways to ride! Keep these coming đ
This is definitely my favorite episode. Nice work! My "attack stance" is closest to Jake's. An S shape allows a lower stance which keeps your weight closer to the angle needed to recover.
I do use the C shape when I'm relaxed or alternating the muscles I'm working. You could also argue that the higher center of gravity allows for more deweight/recovery time. C shape also holds more potential energy to shift hips back and having the shoulders back allows for more room to move your weight further back.
When I'm riding on the edge in "attack position", I keep my hips closer to the wheel. I angle my shoulders, hips and rear knee at a 45° angle so I can buckle my rear knee and drop my torso behind the wheel for a quick recovery. When I'm in this position I can use my hips for hard acceleration or my shoulders and arms for more of a precise acceleration. Shoulders and arms can be retracted quickly and coupled with buckling the rear knee. Arms can provide an upward force, extending recovery time when overtorquing.
Great work guys! The TFL team constantly progresses the sport and culture for our community and I couldn't be more grateful!
I demand a new season of Learning with Leary!
Me too
Awesome video. Wish I watched it 8 weeks ago when I was charging uphill with my shoulders way too far forward. Nosedived directly into a roll and fractured my elbow through my elbow pads. All healed and been learning ever since!
This video (and many others of yours) and the innovation you put into products are why you guys are the best support for the onewheel community
Best Tutorial and Explanation so far. Totally đŻ agree with Bodhi in that case. Thank you for that. I only ride and manouver with my hips.
Can't believe the level of that artwork is flying under the radar đ„đ„đ„đ„
Those are Kash Kustoms! He's Bodhi's brother and does custom griptape and footpad art
Great video. After seeing this I think choice number 3 makes most sense. I had tried to ride the way bodhi explained, but it feels awkward and I donât seem to be able to go past 15 to 16 mph that way. Probably due to the awkwardness for me.
Thanks for sharing!
Love this series cant wait for season 2! Also stoked to see some OW videos from NY keep up the good work Leary!
As I get more comfortable with my OW, I've found Jake's style is most similar to mine. Great perspectives from everyone though. Awesome video.
This is incredibly useful. Great work!
This advice is golden. To anyone who's new or even intermediate listen to these gents.
I like Jeff's tiger claws!
Its the Praying Mantis Stance lol
6:00 that position though đ
T-rex vibes
Great series! thanks a lot.
Great info! I like Jake's perspective for the new or more casual rider. Jeff and Bhodi are for more technical riding for those with above average understanding of their balance on any board. Ideally understanding all perspectives would give you the best opportunity for prevention and/or recovery of a nose dive. It's really nice to see the different perspectives of the best floaters in the game!
I'd love to see a future episode talking more about the proper way to roll out of a nose dive. ââ ïžâđ€đ€
Float Life guys tought me how to ride my OW, i literally watched all video before purchasing one, and on day 5 i've been able to transport smoothly, and confidently, without any previous board experience. best buy ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! thanks guys.
Dudes this is an excellent video! Thank you! Have a safe trip back to NY Jake!
I like the scientific approach of Mr. Leary. Thanks for the video and for the whole series! Looking forward to watching season 2!
One of the best onewheel videos about onewheeling
Great video! I'm a big fan of the hip forward position because it makes me recover out of instinct when I push it too fast and it starts to dive.
10:44 I think those are the best stick figures I've seen. Good job Bodhi!
Great video. As a new rider I'm not sure where my perfect form is at, but there's pros and cons I can consider from each style.
Excellent info guys!đđŸ This video is going to save a lot of riders unnecessary dental work , cracked ribs and broken collarbones! đđŸ
We can do what we can do!
This is serious commitment with the community ride level. Amazing video guys! Thank you so much for doing this for every onewheeler around the globe đȘđ»đ€đ»âđ â
Appreciate this guys. I nose dived pretty hard a couple days back and hurt my shoulder in a roll . Once it heals Iâll be back at it trying out these tips
Hips donât lieđ€đŸâĄïžđ€đŸ
Great content đđŒ! You guys are the best!
I've really appreciated this series. Thanks!
Glad you enjoy it!
professor Jake and company nailed it. best advice out there for OW !
100% agree! Class is in session.
the dumbest parts of my self really appreciated how Jeff explained how motors work with terms like "bandwidth." But seriously people, how he explains how a ONEWHEEL motor is keeping you up and causing you to crash goes through my head while im riding all the time, and all i can think about is keep my fucking weight over the wheel.
I cannot emphasize enough the importance of wrist guards!
Triple 8 hired hands personally.
Going to go with the 187 killer wrist guards. Not the derby ones, since they're plastic and probably won't slide as well for as long. Want some real slip.
Then I just wear separate gloves and put the wrist guards on top of them. I don't like the idea of gloves being built into the wrist guards... especially when it's not always easy to find gloves that are a nice and comfortable fit (especially if they're full finger, which is what I want).
you need to make more of these Jake
Really good video this is a safety meeting just watching
I love this channel.. stoke is lifeđ€đœđŻ
đ€Critical safety info here. Thank you for doing this
Canât wait to get one
Hell yes! This is what I needed to see.
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One tip I might add would be don't lean with your upper body. Learn to lean using your calve muscles. You said hip but I settle for the slight lean and push with my front calve muscle. Totally agree about not leaning forward with your shoulders.
Leary makes the most sense out of everyone. Like that he breaks down the body positions as well. The other riders are super pro, but this makes the most sense!
Jake ain't called the professor for nothing!
Great stuff, guys. Love these deep dives!
Love Bodhis explanation... the metronome reference was perfect
This was very helpful and insightful guys, thank you :) I definitely ride as if I was on a snowboard- with the S shape. I do wish I could attach my feet to the board somehow, I know that would be dangerous- but I always feel like I'm barely able to keep on the board, especially when on rocky terrain and hitting little bumps- I'm only 30 miles in to riding my GT, so I'm sure that will improve as I go. I'm digging these videos.
Happy to help!
Keen to learn about any exercises folks do to address issues from asymmetries of regularly putting the same foot forward
Ride switch!
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good stuff thanks boys
You bet
Hope this series comes back. Leary is the Goat
Honestly it sounds like you do all agree to a certain extent. You all agree C-shapes are bad. And even if Bodhi and Jakeâs positions are slightly different you both are making S-shapes with your bodies, at least it looks like it to me. This is great shit.
Thank you!!!! I'm taking a break to recover from landing on my shoulder. Nearly broke my collarbone!
Glad you're ok!
@@TheFloatLife My shoulder tendon still is in pain when I'm sleeping. It's hard to get comfortable at night. I just ordered my Fangs two weeks ago and they arrive tomorrow! I also have knee, elbow and wrist guards.
I agree with Jake's riding stance.
Jake, you rock
Listen to Jake people. I rode with my hips forward one time and i ate a really bad nosedive that gave me permanent scars on my arm and hips. When I listened to jake i ran out 26 miles an hour 6 times over the last 7 months. Jake is the one to listen too. No offense to anyone else in this video.
What a great video full of essential informations not only for beginners.
I got my XR last monday and i wish i could find this clip few days ago, i could avoid my first
accident with speed of 27 km (16 miles).
Two questions tho: what to do to avoid pain in feets ( its taking all the fun ) and what stance profile should i use ( nose up few degrees or keep onewheel on 0* )?
A Kush rear footpad helps a lot. Also, you'll want to carve back and forth while you ride to help with blood flow. Mission is the king of shapings currently.
Right on Bodie you nailed it. Hips forward. Shoulders back.
Heck yeah, that boy is fast!
Great video. Love the technical explanations. Definitely going to try Jakeâs S shape and see how it feels
Please do!
I learned a lot from ur videos. I also recognize Sac from videos
Hey guys. You know what would be really good right now... if you guys made a video like this focused on the GT. where do you even put your feet on that boat!!!
I forgot this video... now I fell and here again
welcome back!
so sad to be a frenchy and not understand all those advices :( thank you very much for all your shares ! you guys are so amazing ! TFL rox!
If you can find someone to translate some subtitles for us, we will add them for sure!
Hey great vid, but Iâm having trouble pushing on my xr. I can push fine on my gt, but I canât seem to get above 20 or 21 on my xr
Pretty pretty good
Yooo, come ride with us in Brooklyn once you're settled in New York!
I'm back in Brooklyn! Hit me up on ig @jake_onewheel
I agree with all three of you and now I am far too confused to be able to ride
Sorry guys but this isn't a preference thing, it is a scientific thing and Jake got it both correct and explained it the best. His portion should have been the entire video to be honest.
This video is dope, thx for this. Any vids on proper technique on when it surges? Iâm currently with 2 broken wrists due to bailing due to an unexpected surge
oh no! If it surges, it means you are past the upper limits of the boards ability to keep you balanced. The surge is the board's last ditch effort to try and keep you upright.
@@TheFloatLife thatâs a real shame cause Iâm always around 20kmh when going up a very small grade hill when this happens. I was at 22kmh when this injury happened, I feel that the board is way underpowered as advertised. Unfortunately it has to be ridden at around 50% capability. Is there any battery upgrades that might shove this issue?
Kinda not really. A larger battery will basically keep the board riding like it's at 90-100% charge through most of the charge.
Ok, so we all have different backgrounds, body types, strengths and weaknesses etc. So it's good to see these three riding styles but I think the body does what is most natural to the rider. What muscles are naturally dominant in that human. I'm more of the type that wants to know what body position is going to fuck my back up or make my hips totally unaligned. What will screw my spine up? How do these athletes balance the pain that comes with the body being pulled out of alignment? I try to ride switch sometimes to counter balance it all but I suck at riding switch and it's less fun. Is there an ideal body type for cruising vs trails?
I'm agreeing with Jake the most. That athletic stance is the way to go
Dear Leary,
Would love to learn steep down hill control. Tail dragging and keeping from slipping out.
Love yâall
That's a huge table plant!
Jake convinced me, and it just feels more natural to me.
1st vid I've watched from this channel. Great info!
I have 1 question. I'm waiting on delivery for my one wheel. I'm 44. I haven't done any board sports for 15 years, but need it back in my life. When I was younger, I surfed, longboarded, wakeboarded and snowboarded. Which mechanics of riding is the most similar to the one wheel?
It's basically all the boardsports combined into one. It's rad.
As it was stated in this video, whether you intend to run out of a nosedive or roll out of a nosedive, you need to get at least a few steps in. I always keep my forward arm backside and my rear arm frontside. This is the prewind for frontside counter-rotation, which is what you will need to accomplish, in order to spin your lower body forward into a running position. If you were to nosedive with your forward arm frontside and your rear arm backside, you would only have prewind for a frontside rotation and rotation is significantly weaker and slower than counter-rotation, meaning significantly higher risk of slamming into the ground. If you were to nosedive with both hands on the same side, you'd only be able to use 1 arm for rotation or counter-rotation. I believe that the further your arms are from frontside counter-rotation prewind, the more likely you are to eat dirt when you come off the board.
Excellent points. Do you prewind your torso or just your arms?
Yes, my shoulders and hips have prewind too. I think that's important. I'm just in the habit of defining by arm positions.
Douglas do you have a photo or video of what that looks like? I took a hard fall but it was 100% because ai was not feeling the board. I can see what you are saying but am curious what it looks like while riding.
@@kevinlewis6062 While apparently I cannot send links, and it is very sensitive about speaking in code so this may be hard to understand. If you gpqgle longboarding and click images, not too far from the top is a guy on a long blue skateboard, in blue clothing and a blue hat, from the website simple d0ht whickaep3dea d0ht org. For me, it looks something like this, with the rear arm, which we cannot see, looking like I am trying to grab my belt buckle. If you do an intentional nosedive regularly, you will get a feel for how much prewind is right for you. I would recommend a 2x4 in the grass or a small hole in the ground. Start slow and gradually speed up each time. You may want to stretch beforehand and limit how many you do per day if you are prone to shin splints, as it can be very high impact.
And remember to always lift with your back, it's the strongest muscle in your body
what i dont understand is when i first got it i learned in 10mins and felt like i wouldent fall and was just gliding but the next day i get on i just dont know what happened i cant learn it i just keep falling
Which modes everyone mostly use to save energy tell us the purpose of the modes in better detail
Mission
Appreciate the insight. But I still feel like thereâs got to be a way to more gradually have the board slow vs the motor cutting out and creating a nose dive situation. Donât get me wrongâŠI love the board and ride. Just this 1 big issue I wish could be addressed. Avid snowboarder đ so did a tuck and roll on n a nosedive a had (1st week of owning board). Lesson learnedâŠshoulder to concrete and rolled but still left some scars. 26mphâŠcouldnât run it out at 215lbs. Just my .02 cents.
We also hope one day nosedives can be a thing of the past. We've been thrown many times over the years...
@@TheFloatLife Right there with ya...Don't care how long you've been riding...it's just right there in the back of your mind when riding....
I want a t-shirt with Bodhi's diagram from this video!
jake is the master of illustrating things D: i feel like a fanboy commeting and im a grown ass 28 yr old man
Maybe my English is not so good and I didn't get a point but do I understand correctly that second part of video says something opposite to first part? :)
So, what are conclusions if all of you are good rides? Should we try both and decide what way we prefer?
Different strokes for different folks.
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Its all in the HIPS!!!! And Knees! GET LOW, go FAST!
Jake wins!
Where you got those helmets from? What are they called? you wear a cap under it?
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We need an auditory alert.
Whether it be from an addition to the phone app; or the board it self beeping to alert the user that they are reaching "terminal velocity" and are about to exceed push back capacity.
An auditory feature that could be turned on and of would be legit!
Ninja Roll Out is also an option for an emrg exit
step, step, roll
Any news on lightning pros?
I'm pretty sure I ride most similar to Jake's stance
Mission with +6 aggression with -3 carvability
Wow! This is mindblowing. First off, this must be different for a round wheel pint.(my deck tilts toe-ward when I ridestaight).
Jake is right about a lot of things..but I always keep feet and body square and centered as possible and get lower for high speeds. When I see some noob jutting his hips forward with legs straight, I want to yank them off and give them a few lessons before they smash there face and quit..people do some dumb shit on these..lol.
I guarantee my pint at 40psi is way harder to ride than most peoples gt at 15 so I actually can talk
What give you stability on a Onewheel? The answer is riding sideways with feet perfectly square and as close to wheel as possible while keeping your center of mass over wheel..REALLY TEST THIS!
This is why I have alway use ELEVATED MODE. It f it can give me even a split second of extra time itâs all the difference. Be ready to JUMP OFF at ALL TIMES. That means always having knees BENT!
Sure when you are riding and whipping your feet will want to turn forwards but THAT is what make the SPEED WOBBLES. I think the flat wheel increases speed wobbles too but canât really talk, Iâm not stupid enough to try and be a speed demon on Onewheel.
My feet stick over Pint an inch on each side. This gives me a âgripâ and way more control than I ever had on a XR. Feet size matters which stance you chose, imo
I'm super smart, but a new rider, and you guys are being too complex...i can't even tell if that board in Kodhi's diagram is an XR or a Pint. :0 ;) :)
You guys a Great!