Dyno Numbers on Milwaukee M12 Batteries: Which is Best?

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    The Milwaukee M12 2555-20 and 2565-20 compact and right angle impacts hit the dyno with an array of M12 FUEL batteries to see which ones are worth the coin for the torque they are able to generate with these tools.
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  • @trevorm7013
    @trevorm7013 Před 3 lety +45

    I’m super bummed you guys didn’t test the 3.0 three cell pack and the 3.0 six cell pack. That would have been the most interesting to see. If you even see this comment I have both of those batteries and I’d be happy to send them to you guys

  • @jabroni6199
    @jabroni6199 Před 3 lety +58

    I purchased the M12 impact wrench with a 6.0 battery a few months ago and have been very impressed with it. I wanted something smaller and lighter than my high torque. I figured the M12 would be good enough for 50% of what i needed a impact wrench for. To my surprise it’s been plenty powerful enough for >90% of my needs. I use the high torque so infrequently that I don’t keep a battery attached to it.

    • @jake-mv5oi
      @jake-mv5oi Před 3 lety +4

      I'm in the same boat. I seldom use the big boy.

    • @jabroni6199
      @jabroni6199 Před 3 lety +3

      @@jake-mv5oi yep and to be completely transparent, that 10% of the time I use it, it’s usually because I only have a 1/2” version of the socket I need (the m12 I got is 3/8)

    • @samuel5916
      @samuel5916 Před 3 lety +2

      @@jabroni6199 Can you just use a 3/8”-1/2” adaptor or does that make it too big? I have a full set of Tekton deep-well impact sockets in Metric and Imperial along with their accessories and I can put any type of socket on any type of impact wrench I want. But I’m not an Auto Mechanic so tight spaces are rarely a problem.

    • @jabroni6199
      @jabroni6199 Před 3 lety +2

      @@samuel5916 yep you can. I recently purchased one. Makes it a bit longer but still well short of a high torque.

    • @samuel5916
      @samuel5916 Před 2 lety +1

      @@jabroni6199 Oh cool!

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  • @Binford2500
    @Binford2500 Před 3 lety +37

    These test mirror my anecdotal experience. The 2.0 won’t spin off the lugnuts on my wife’s SUV, but the 4.0 sure does. Great little compact impact for suspension work.

    • @brynnond.6952
      @brynnond.6952 Před 3 lety +1

      Same thing with my experience

    • @galvanizedgnome
      @galvanizedgnome Před 2 lety +2

      Does she have a big trunk?

    • @thewiseguy7100
      @thewiseguy7100 Před rokem

      So you’re saying battery makes a difference?

    • @user-do2yj5rr2k
      @user-do2yj5rr2k Před 7 měsíci

      ​@@thewiseguy7100yes batteries make a difference in power.

    • @Chapo-559
      @Chapo-559 Před 7 měsíci

      My 2.0 does take the lugs nuts off my car m12 impact gen 3 with a 2.0 battery cp

  • @MrGabrielallon
    @MrGabrielallon Před rokem +66

    I used czcams.com/users/postUgkx4ynqaujg7rZKFapA8s29kTpRszJGa3-K this for the first time today to replace the front wheel bearing on my rwd 98 dodge dakota. This had absolutely no issue removing or reinstalling the lug nuts and it took off the axle nut without any struggle. Sounds like it's got some muscle to it. Time will tell

  • @25centsapop
    @25centsapop Před 3 lety +5

    After getting my m12 fuel ratchet I couldn't imagine life without it. Same to the compact m12 impact

  • @TorqueTestChannel
    @TorqueTestChannel  Před 3 lety +45

    Our local sources were all out of the 3.0's when we tested these, and we only had these 2 impacts for a day. Sorry to the 3.0 lovers!

    • @MustPassTruck
      @MustPassTruck Před 3 lety +3

      I think it is strange that the 3 comes in 2 different forms.

    • @JohnDoe-fk6id
      @JohnDoe-fk6id Před 3 lety +13

      I was really hoping to see the difference between the CP 3.0 and the XC 3.0, as the CP 3.0 is the only one that I can't find info on what cells are in it. The CP 1.5 and XC 3.0 both use Samsung INR18650 15M cells, rated at 23A per cell (giving 46A on the XC). The CP 2.0 uses 20R cells, rated at 22A, the XC 4.0 *SUPPOSEDLY* uses cells rated at 20A, for a total of 40A, and the XC 6.0 uses 30Q cells, rated at 15A, for total of 60A. I've seen only one guess about the cells in the CP 3.0, being also 30Q, but I really wanted to see how they perfomed.

    • @superspeeder
      @superspeeder Před 3 lety +3

      @@JohnDoe-fk6id, I think you meant to say the 6.0 would have a total of 30A (15A x 2), correct?
      Keep in mind that, even though the CP1.5 has high current capability, the cells will deplete much faster in use than the higher capacity cells, so at some point you should expect to see the higher capacity cells putting out more current as the battery wears down. TTC uses batteries fresh off the charger so we're only seeing what they can do best case scenario. In their defense I'm not sure how you would accurately test these batteries at a partial charge and keep things consistent.

    • @JohnDoe-fk6id
      @JohnDoe-fk6id Před 3 lety +2

      @@superspeeder you are correct. I meant 30A total on the 6.0 I was/am tired, as of this posting. You are also correct about the partial charge, but that's not really a major concern, to me. The reason I wanted to see the cp3.0 vs xc3.0 was to show the extreme difference between 6x high current, low capacity cells and 3x high capacity, low current cells.
      I bet the cp3.0 would be below the cp1.5, in power, while the xc3.0 should, in theory, be above everything.

    • @superspeeder
      @superspeeder Před 3 lety +3

      @@JohnDoe-fk6id agreed, would be interesting to see the 3.0CP.

  • @geraldwardrop
    @geraldwardrop Před 3 lety +19

    Really like my M12, with 2ah, and 4.0 batteries, it gets everything done I throw at it, would definitely suite any diy'er 98% of jobs they would come across.

    • @MrAPCProductions
      @MrAPCProductions Před 3 lety +3

      As a fulltime wrench thrower the 1.5 and 2.0 are relegated to the smaller tasks of the family, mostly for drills/ratchets. I have a 4.0 or 6.0 in all of my impacts, After well over a year and multiple rebuilds of both tools and batteries I cannot tell a difference in the 4.0 and 6.0

    • @upon1772
      @upon1772 Před 3 lety +1

      100% right on that one. Use the 4.0 on my stubby and circular saw, and the 2.0/1.5 on my 3/8" ratchet and multitool where the power isn't needed. Doesn't seem like the extra cost of the 6.0 is worth the slightly extra beans it delivers. Would be curious if the 6.0 would be better for my circular saw though...

    • @MrAPCProductions
      @MrAPCProductions Před 3 lety +1

      @@upon1772 I all tools I have tested there is almost no difference in the 4 and 6

    • @upon1772
      @upon1772 Před 3 lety +1

      @@MrAPCProductions Glad to hear I don't need to waste my money trying to find out then!

    • @inibrasiumthefirst2680
      @inibrasiumthefirst2680 Před 3 lety +1

      I like the ratchet and stubby impact but for full size I run a makita

  • @mortimersnerdishere
    @mortimersnerdishere Před 2 lety +1

    You ain't wrong on the right angle impact. The battery it comes with makes me dislike the tool. It won't break Subaru bellhousing bolts loose, the exact bolts I bought it for. Gonna go get the 6.0 and see if it wakes mine up. Thanks for all of your no nonsense videos!! 💯

  • @daifeichu
    @daifeichu Před 2 lety +6

    Would love to see this test again if you get your hands on the new 2.5 and 5Ah HO batteries.

  • @PM-lk9ph
    @PM-lk9ph Před 3 lety +31

    Video on those torque-limiting attachments? Are they accurate? Always well done videos.

    • @TorqueTestChannel
      @TorqueTestChannel  Před 3 lety +26

      We've bought multiple brands and are in the process of doing around a baker's dozen worth of different tests which will take awhile to compile the data and edit up :)

    • @KI4HOK
      @KI4HOK Před 3 lety

      I’m interested in this one as well.

    • @PM-lk9ph
      @PM-lk9ph Před 3 lety

      @@TorqueTestChannel Yay! Thanks! One of the best channels's on YT!

    • @FishFind3000
      @FishFind3000 Před 3 lety +1

      @@TorqueTestChannel can’t wait to see

    • @TorqueTestChannel
      @TorqueTestChannel  Před 3 lety +4

      There's a few tools ahead of these in the science lab before we finish up, and with the number of tests we're doing (mostly on lunch breaks) it may take a bit but we're chipping away at it!

  • @clone1137
    @clone1137 Před 2 lety +35

    Damn I was really hoping to see a compact 3.0 in this test. Would be really cool if you could do a cp3.0 vs xc3.0 to see if batteries in parallel preform worse than batteries in series. Or just a test of all of the compact batteries versus each other (1.5, 2.0, 3.0). Either way very cool video thank you for sharing

    • @michaellim4165
      @michaellim4165 Před 2 lety +4

      Batteries in parallel perform worse ( less power output) than batteries in serial. However, parallel ones last longer than the ones in serial. The serial ones produce more power but last shorter.

  • @likeaboss882
    @likeaboss882 Před 3 lety +5

    They also offer a cp3.0 pack in the same form factor as the 2.0. Works really well with both of these tools for size/power

  • @syd_luna
    @syd_luna Před 3 lety +24

    I’d like you to test out the M12 stubby again (you call it the M12 Compact Impact), except this time, with the M12 CP 3.0 battery, and M12 XC 3.0 battery. I’ve always been curious if the CP 3.0 would make a good compromise for its size, but with just enough juice that would be very close to a XC 4.0 battery.

    • @BM-ut5nx
      @BM-ut5nx Před 3 lety +1

      This would be nice to see!!!

    • @kartboarder22g17
      @kartboarder22g17 Před 2 lety

      Yeah I bet you the 3.0 xc is more powerful than the 3.0cp because of more cells. Yet impressive they have a 3.0 compact.

  • @JonathanSias
    @JonathanSias Před 3 lety +6

    I'm my personal experience, the 4.0 will carry these m12 tools harder and longer than any amount of 2.0. Glad to see the torque dyno tell the same story!

  • @loganriechers8764
    @loganriechers8764 Před 3 lety +4

    I got the m12 drill with a 2.0 and 4.0 battery as a kit for $120 and at the time Northern Tool had a deal where they threw in a 6.0 as well. I think I made out pretty good on that one.

  • @michaelburrell4685
    @michaelburrell4685 Před 3 lety +2

    My m12 compact impact wrench is my go to tool for everything except high torque applications. That’s what my XTR is for. Very compact, very light, insane run time with the 4.0. I don’t have that right angle m12 however I have the Kobalt right angle impact, and m12 fuel ratchet for those jobs.

  • @leerob2403
    @leerob2403 Před 3 lety +9

    This couldn’t have come at a more perfect time gentlemen! I was considering the right angle just today! Crazy. I’m going to take my finger off that trigger and wait patiently, with beans on😉, for the hard facts, figures and beans you guys seamlessly provide. I thank everyone in the “TTC Cool Crew”for the time and effort it takes to give us all nine +++ minutes of the pure, hard, un salted, un sweetened, beans.
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  • @bleach_drink_me
    @bleach_drink_me Před 3 lety +4

    The right angle impact is a helpful tool.

    • @Mis73rRand0m
      @Mis73rRand0m Před 3 lety

      I use it a lot, like a lot alot. It's kind of an interesting compromise compared to the compact impact, but since I opted for the 1/4" bit driver impact instead of the socket-drive, this fills the space quite effectively.

  • @NWGR
    @NWGR Před 3 lety +3

    Good info in here as some have said online that the 6.0 isn't as powerful as the 4.0; clearly not the case.
    That said, I would have loved to see the CP 3.0 and XC 3.0 in the mix too; maybe in an update sometime?
    Either way, I only run two batteries with my M12 tools; CP 3.0s for most things, and XC 6.0s for higher demand tools.

  • @Mike-we3rb
    @Mike-we3rb Před rokem

    I got stubby and ratchet as a deal almost 2 years ago. Came with 2.0 4.0 and 6.0 was a free gift. I sold the 6.0 on marketplace for like $60. Sold in a day. Didn’t think I’d Need. I’m happy to see it’s now that much different than the 4.0 lol. Was getting nervous for a second

  • @eventhrondsen
    @eventhrondsen Před 3 lety +25

    Can you test banging on a normal wrench with a hammer, or using a floor jack on a breaker bar

    • @mesanders1113
      @mesanders1113 Před 3 lety +1

      If you have a 2ft breaker bar and a 2 ton jack you could theoretically get close to 4,000 foot pounds which would lead to lots of broken parts. Just spend some money on a proper impact you get less broken stuff as the IPS has a big role in freeing stuck bolts. Just can't replicate that by hand

    • @eventhrondsen
      @eventhrondsen Před 3 lety +1

      @@mesanders1113 two hammers? Would still be fun to see tested though.

    • @anichols5845
      @anichols5845 Před 2 lety

      It would

  • @TexMexJoe
    @TexMexJoe Před 3 lety +8

    Besides my paycheck you have me looking forward to this Friday

  • @TemeraireJimny
    @TemeraireJimny Před 3 lety +1

    I have the 3/8th version of the compact and it's perfect for working on my Suzuki Jimny and so far with the 4.0 it's not undone anything I have put it on.

  • @Fly2kill1
    @Fly2kill1 Před 3 lety +1

    I’ve been quite happy with Bosch for my subcompact needs. They don’t have much but they have the basics.

  • @DeBuII1
    @DeBuII1 Před 3 lety

    I wish they would have your battery going out the other way behind the tool. I didn't like the handle at first but after using it a few months I now love it

  • @White.Elemant
    @White.Elemant Před 3 lety +7

    One thing I've noticed about Milwaukee Fuel impact wrench: the torque it delivers depends on, to some extent, the way it's being held. Pressed snugly at precicely perfect angle at the nut, it performs way better than when just looslely held and maybe a little tilted. Or so I think. Maybe test this with some gear, if not tested yet?

    • @TheBootyWrangler
      @TheBootyWrangler Před 2 lety +1

      That’s why those Milwaukee magnetic impact nut drivers work so incredibly well for driving lags with an impact driver

  • @jasonm9264
    @jasonm9264 Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks for that test. I found a deal for a 4 pack of the 4 ah for $180. I was hoping to find some 6ah, but now I’m seeing that’s not necessary, especially if I’ll have 3 back ups.

  • @kswis
    @kswis Před 2 lety +1

    Lighter and I personally like the bulky handle. I have big hands, the m12 just feels better in hand. I can hang it from my pocket comfortably. Might not have quite as much beans as the m18 but for what I do, the m12 is just right. How often does anyone actually push their tools that hard? I for one don't try and get every lb ft of torque outa it every day. Itll easily drive a 3" screw with a tiny 1.5 ah battery,

  • @Drd4all
    @Drd4all Před 3 lety +9

    This was a great video for me. Was really debating whether or not to get the 6.0 but this cleared up things for me.
    Thanks a lot !

  • @clint91x
    @clint91x Před rokem

    I love these M12 tools. I use the impact, ratchet, and die grinder more than any other power tool in my shop.

  • @sideeyes7480
    @sideeyes7480 Před 3 lety +2

    M12 is my personal favorite platform, because the power/size/cost ratio is great. I don’t need 18, 24, 36, 40 volts or beyond. I’m a home gamer not a pro, so 12 volts does almost everything I need. Great video, btw.

    • @WilReid
      @WilReid Před 3 lety +1

      M12 is still a pro line though, so you're getting the quality that should make them last essentially forever (in a DIYer's case). Most people's M12 tools should work for as long as they can find and charge batteries for them.

    • @MrAPCProductions
      @MrAPCProductions Před 3 lety +3

      Full time pro here: I only have the M12 stuff. If you really really have to break something, I have torches, saws, and a myriad of other destruction devices that easily fit the bill. For almost everything on most passenger vehicles the M12 line is great.

    • @mdinelle
      @mdinelle Před 3 lety +1

      The M12 is really impressive. I think M18 is overkill for DIY. I use my M12 stubby 1/2" impact wrench to do seasonal tire changes and it doesn't even struggle to loosen nuts on my cars when I compare it to my previous 20v store brand impact wrench.

    • @mdinelle
      @mdinelle Před 3 lety

      @@MrAPCProductions had I known at the time that M12 would have been more than enough for the odd task around the house (noob DIYer here) I wouldn't have even looked at the M18 hammer drill/impact driver/circ saw combo I got... Ok it was a great deal for the price, but I really do appreciate the compact form factor of the M12 battery packs.

  • @wb5mgr
    @wb5mgr Před 3 lety

    I have the M12 Fuel Drill/Driver kit and my experience mirrors yours. I purchased mine at Home depot and it came with a 2.0 and a 4.0Ah battery plus a free 2 pak of 1.5Ah batteries. I purchased a radio that I use the small batteries in and I bought a second 4.0 battery for my drill. I love my M12 set and have seen no reason to move to the M18 for what work I do.

  • @GMONEYFIFTYFOUR
    @GMONEYFIFTYFOUR Před 3 lety

    I’m a forklift mechanic and my van compressor is horrible so now I’m looking at electric tools but I don’t do too much heavy duty except taking drive tires off which is a beast. I can’t decide on what to do

    • @TorqueTestChannel
      @TorqueTestChannel  Před 3 lety

      Makita Mid torque and Makita compact or M18 mid and compact will do 90%. The other 10% either 1/2" M18 high torque or 3/4" Makita XGT for stuff that needs to just die in a hellfire.

  • @mrbgpati
    @mrbgpati Před 3 lety +6

    I went with the 3.0 and 6.0 batteries for my M12 impacts/tools. I figured that I might as well get the highest capacity for the same size factor

    • @geoffstrickler
      @geoffstrickler Před 3 lety +2

      The CP 3.0 is the only M12 battery I don’t have. It’s good for runtime, but not for high power uses. I’d rather have a pair of CP2.0 vs CP3.0 batteries. The 3.0Ah cells just can’t deliver as much amperage. That’s much less of an issue in the XC6.0 since there are two sets in parallel, thus the 6.0 essentially matching, or even beating, the 4.0 in these tests. The 4.0 probably beats the 6.0 for the FUEL drills and saws, but I haven’t seen head to head tests on that.

    • @mrbgpati
      @mrbgpati Před 3 lety +1

      @@geoffstrickler Yeah the CP 3.0's are mostly for my Milwaukee lights. But I haven't had any problems using the 3.0 on my stubby and right impact

    • @geoffstrickler
      @geoffstrickler Před 3 lety

      @@mrbgpati well, given the results here, I think it’s safe to say you’re not getting full power out of them. Of course, you may not need full power.

    • @NWGR
      @NWGR Před 3 lety

      @@geoffstrickler I keep hearing this but never anything to back it up; on a recent remodel I did, I used the M12 installation driver with a CP 3.0 battery and it handled driving 1/4" x 4 1/2" spax lags when wall mounting a desk with power to spare.
      Is there a source of this claim, or a test confirming it?

    • @geoffstrickler
      @geoffstrickler Před 3 lety +2

      @@NWGR the installation driver isn’t a high power tool, I would not expect to see any notable difference there. But the fact remains that the 3.0Ah cells can supply only 15A sustained, vs 23/22A on the 1.5/2.0Ah cells. As I said, try looking it on the FUEL drills or saws, which can draw twice as much as the Installation driver.

  • @jamesu
    @jamesu Před 3 lety

    Thanks, I have found the 2565-20 wanting for power and use my pneumatic hammerhead when needed.

  • @Suburbanhotrods
    @Suburbanhotrods Před 3 lety +4

    Love my m12 with a 6.0. Rarely have to touch my 2767 high torque, and it’s so small. The snap on 14.4vs have nothing on it.

  • @butundo444
    @butundo444 Před 3 měsíci

    I would love to see an updated video to include the new 2.5ah HO and 5ah HO batteries

  • @l00nybin
    @l00nybin Před 3 lety +3

    Excellent video! I have really come to respect what my M12 tools can do, and I have the M12 and M18 Surge, not even the full-power impact drivers or stubby impact wrench (although that may have to be my next purchase).

  • @booya6437
    @booya6437 Před 3 lety +1

    I use 4ah batteries for my impacts and a 6ah for my M12 air compressor and it seems to be a great match.

  • @allenignacio9790
    @allenignacio9790 Před 3 lety

    I'm still impressed with my m12 3/8 equip with 6.0 battery sometimes I'm gonna use in lug nut wheels a small tools but badass performance

  • @10wjlaudio07
    @10wjlaudio07 Před 3 lety

    They all have a place in my arsenal.
    Application and location for use are key.

  • @GilFavor101
    @GilFavor101 Před 3 lety

    My stubby 3/8 impact w/ the XC6.0 battery has only hit it's limit a couple times, but I've only had it for a week or two, but it keeps up fine, only thing it can't do reliably is like rusty 24mm suspension stuff that you have to use a swivel on. Highly recommend it. EDIT: Oh, and axle nuts, it's 50/50 chance on those, lol.

  • @tjsells9288
    @tjsells9288 Před 3 lety

    Love my M12 compact wrench impact! Things a beast!!!

  • @emtiv5308
    @emtiv5308 Před 3 lety

    Ac Delco makes a right angle rachet. We use it and its awesome

  • @thewatchersofthewood3530

    Man i wish I found this channel months ago. Just got a new M18 compact impact and really wish I got the m12 as the m18 is just not really compact enough.

  • @alanshaw6161
    @alanshaw6161 Před 2 lety

    I wish you would of had access to the 3.0 battery. It’s the same form factor as the 2.0. I came with a Milwaukee heated coat I bought last winter. Anyways it gives a huge torque boost to my brushed M12 3/8 ratchet. I was shocked how much speed the 3.0 added over the 2.0.

  • @ryanridgely7807
    @ryanridgely7807 Před 3 lety +2

    Relegate it to your soldering iron? Sorry dude: that 2Ah battery is THE reason for the M12 impact. It fits everywhere and lasts plenty long. I can replace four springs, shocks, and struts on a car... *and* run the spring compressor with a charge on the 2Ah. The big battery might be nice in the lab.... but the little one helps the M12 line shine.

    • @TorqueTestChannel
      @TorqueTestChannel  Před 3 lety +7

      The data is there for you to do what you wish with it. A 21% difference in power from swapping a battery is not something we often see basically ever. 21% is the difference between a M18 high torque and a Brushed Harbor Freight. At least now you can run a 2.0 and know if something aint getting done a 4.0 or 6.0 might do it.

    • @AndrewBrowner
      @AndrewBrowner Před 3 lety

      did struts on a little chevy sedan a couple weeks ago with my m12 stubby and chewed through both 3.0 batteries by the time everything was removed, springs were compressed, new ones installed, struts back in and wheels back on
      was a little bit breezy and cold outside that day, but the inferno of heat radiating off the little motor kept my warm

    • @KI4HOK
      @KI4HOK Před 3 lety +1

      I use the 1.5 and 2.0 on my ratchets and the 4.0 on my impacts. It seems to work for me.

    • @jabroni6199
      @jabroni6199 Před 3 lety

      My own experience is the 2.0 is fine if you’re loosening bolts that are torqued 70ftlb and below. Above that, it still works but takes a few more hits than a 4.0+ pack. Not really an issue if you’re only doing a handful but if you have several bolts to break and re-fasten, you’re going to be spending a lot of time charging or swapping batteries. The battery size isn’t an issue, the business end of the tool is far larger than the battery and If it fits, the battery clearance won’t be an issue. The marginally heavier weight actually makes the tool feel more balanced to me. Now for a ratchet, there’s a much stronger case for the 2.0.

    • @ryanridgely7807
      @ryanridgely7807 Před 3 lety

      @@jabroni6199 Zero problem pulling 105 ft-lb lug nuts off. If it takes longer than 3 seconds to blurb something off, I'm pulling out a bugging gun. Disagree about the battery size. I'll slide the M12 gun into small holes in suspension set-ups. Run it upside down, with my thumb on the trigger. Ultimately, if you need much more than the 2Ah battery, it's time for a bigger gun.

  • @sambrose1
    @sambrose1 Před 3 lety

    I love my little M12 and I really don't like red but she just works.

  • @920PC
    @920PC Před 2 lety

    I love the comparison graph you use. Thanks for the video!

  • @WrecklessEnterainment
    @WrecklessEnterainment Před 3 lety

    I’ve had an m12 stubby 3/8’s at work for about 2 years now and it’s been a great tool. Very strong for its size and I like the fatter handle on it. It’s stronger than my co workers 20 volt Mac 3/8 impact lol. It’s great for engine work and can even pull off the wheels on my 3/4 ton dodge.

  • @mannyc805
    @mannyc805 Před 3 lety

    Bro I had bought a 6.0 and compact 3.0 for 99$ just got to buy when they have good deals like that 👍

  • @RussianSupaPowa
    @RussianSupaPowa Před 3 lety

    Awesome! Been waiting to see the true output of the right angle before picking one up. Next paycheck here it comes :)

  • @grenadacatamarans
    @grenadacatamarans Před 3 lety

    Hi, have you done a test on different sockets and adapters on impact wrench’s today see which give the best torque transfer and how much torque you lose with extensions, wobble sockets, hex. Bi hex, regular vs impact sockets, knuckle joints. ….your tests are awesome thanks for doing a great job…

  • @countbaker5595
    @countbaker5595 Před 3 lety +3

    CP 3.0 vs XC 3.0?

  • @robertb3409
    @robertb3409 Před 2 lety

    Great video, this video helped me make my decision for which battery to get for m12 tools.

  • @robertfrate9738
    @robertfrate9738 Před 3 lety

    Hi, I’m very surprised that right angle Milwaukee didn’t pull like some videos claim it can, I was seriously thinking about getting it, not sure now! Excellent quality video ty so much, Bob,

    • @TorqueTestChannel
      @TorqueTestChannel  Před 3 lety +1

      Watch Friday. It's pretty dramatic!

    • @robertfrate9738
      @robertfrate9738 Před 3 lety

      @@TorqueTestChannel I’ll watch for your notifications I’m very interested I’m a huge Milwaukee fan, ty so much,

  • @BigRedMachineCJ7
    @BigRedMachineCJ7 Před 3 lety +4

    Would be curious to see if one of those aftermarket 9.0 batteries bump it up more or not.

  • @Brad-tq2pi
    @Brad-tq2pi Před 2 lety

    Once again you guys answer everything I wanted to know. Thanks again for the info!

  • @agenericaccount3935
    @agenericaccount3935 Před 2 lety +1

    This is like the Gamers Nexus of tools. Superb.

  • @2down4up
    @2down4up Před rokem +1

    Time to redo this test with the new 2.5 and 5.0

  • @sirmalus5153
    @sirmalus5153 Před 3 lety

    Unless I am using the soldering iron in a tight space, I only buy and use the 6amp batteries. I need the power AND run time, so best of both worlds with the 6amp.

  • @KM-os4be
    @KM-os4be Před 3 lety

    Good video! Now I can't wait for the right angle impact test coming up. I sure like my Kobalt 24v right angle impact, use it a bunch.

  • @rockygambina312
    @rockygambina312 Před 3 lety

    Perfect timing for the Kobalt vs Milwaukee comparison. I have both battery platforms so curious to see what you find. I’m leaning towards the Milwaukee purely by form factor but will wait for your review.

  • @MrCaribe65
    @MrCaribe65 Před 11 měsíci

    Once again your work has saved me money.

  • @linadsenoj
    @linadsenoj Před 3 lety +1

    I used the stubby impact with a 4.0 at work and 6.0 onsite jobs ( no charger). Always seemed like the 4.0ah had a bit more jam than the 6.0ah. The 4.0 was older and had more cycles. Maybe the 4.0 has a bit higher peak current?🧐

  • @AL_Lopez_101
    @AL_Lopez_101 Před 3 lety +1

    Kolbalt 24 V for the win!

  • @billyshoplak4490
    @billyshoplak4490 Před 3 lety +1

    Would love to see the knock off waitley m12 batteries tested , you can get 2 6.0 ah for 40-60 dollars and so far they've been really good for me.

  • @SuperMurrayb
    @SuperMurrayb Před 2 lety

    This video contains useful information for M12 owners. Thanks for posting it. One important thing that is rarely mentioned is that battery capacity is measured in watt-hours, not amp-hours and the watt-hour rating printed on an M12 battery is exaggerated. The problem is that capacity should be calculated using nominal voltages and not peak voltages. A single cell in a fully charged lithium battery measures about 4.2v. In operation the voltage starts at 4.2 v per cell but declines to about 3.0 v per cell when the tool shuts off. The average or nominal voltage is around 3.6 v per cell. Since an M18 battery has five cells in a row the nominal voltage is 18 volts for the battery. Using the same standard the M12 battery actually delivers an average of 10.8 volts and not 12 volts. Milwaukee should be using the lower voltage to calculate the capacity but they use the higher one so the number printed on the battery is greater than it should be. For example a M18 4.0 amp-hour battery is correctly marked as providing 72 watt-hours when new. On the other hand, the M12 4.0 amp-hour battery is incorrectly marked as providing 48 watt-hours when it actually delivers about 43.2 watt-hours when new. The actual watt-hour capacity of an M12 battery is only about 90% of the capacity printed on the battery.

  • @dominikkozela9763
    @dominikkozela9763 Před 3 lety

    I love my M12 3/8 stubby, I also have the new m18 mid torque but don't use as often. I will get a 3/8 cordless ratchet next but don't know which one yet, currently leaning towards the high speed or high torque.

  • @abijahgribble
    @abijahgribble Před 3 lety

    Awesome test man and yet another first to do something nobody else has done before. I read the reason why you couldn't get ANY 3.0ah of either forms and was hoping to see how they would stack in there as well. Please if I could lend a hand I'd love to send you mine if you can't get a lock on any and I have a few to spare. Keep up the amazing work man, absolutely love the channel and I know everyone else does as well!!

    • @BM-ut5nx
      @BM-ut5nx Před 3 lety +1

      I think in an earlier comment they stated they only had the tools for 1-day for testing, so looks like they will need tools in addition to batteries to be able to test both 3.0's

    • @abijahgribble
      @abijahgribble Před 3 lety +1

      @@BM-ut5nx I've got them all man and more than willing to let TTC borrow them for as long as they need, no rush, just trying to give back any way I can 👊💯

    • @BM-ut5nx
      @BM-ut5nx Před 3 lety +1

      @@abijahgribble that would be awesome. I love milwaukee, never owned one but every mechanic in aviation or automotive that has been in the industry long enough swear by them, I just need to get enough together to purchase some milwaukee tools myself

    • @BM-ut5nx
      @BM-ut5nx Před 3 lety

      That I've known*

    • @abijahgribble
      @abijahgribble Před 3 lety

      @@BM-ut5nx I catch them on deals all the time man as much deals as they run with them you can get free tools or batteries on promos ALL the time. I'm also a mechanic and I buy every Milwaukee tool that I feel that I can use in my arsenal, and I will say this, they have been amazing additions and I don't regret the investment 👌

  • @mdinelle
    @mdinelle Před 3 lety +5

    I wonder how the m12 stubby does on a compact 3.0 versus the xc 3.0.

  • @BowkerAero
    @BowkerAero Před 3 lety

    Not being a mechanic the impact isn't my #1 tool..but I do own a few to take things apart before I weld them back together. My alleged beef with the m12's is the life span of the batteries.(I still own a grip of them)Maybe you could design a test to cycle the batteries like 200x then see how they perform?

  • @jeremypike9153
    @jeremypike9153 Před 3 lety

    My right angle impact drains the 1.5/2.0 batteries in literally about 10 fasteners. The xc 4.0 however will last a whole day.

  • @wolfeman781992
    @wolfeman781992 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Should redo this test with the newer m12 batteries

  • @dirksellsted6929
    @dirksellsted6929 Před 3 lety +1

    Still hoping for an appendice to the makita battery chart to include their 6 amp battery

  • @trogdor8634
    @trogdor8634 Před 7 měsíci

    Can you do an update on this? Quite a few batteries have come out since....also would like to see the 3/8 anvil to see dem BEANS!

  • @Blakes123
    @Blakes123 Před 10 měsíci

    Please do one on the Amazon fake/knock offs. I would love seeing what the Dino says

  • @rcud1
    @rcud1 Před 3 lety

    I have several compact 3.0's I like to generally use, one of biggest reason I got into the M12 was the smaller battery packs. But I generally use the 4.0 & 6.0's on things like my vacuum and tire inflator as well as rocket light.

  • @ronbeton1999
    @ronbeton1999 Před 3 lety +2

    Good job dude!

  • @oddojaggins
    @oddojaggins Před 3 lety

    Hope you guys plan to test the makita, Dewalt and Bosch 12v equivalents. I have the right angle lxt 18v makita right angle and while its only rated at 35 ft lbs I use it alot for spinning nuts and bolts off that I break loose with a regular ratchet, when working with fasteners put into plastic I can typically spin them right out with it. Unlike the rest of my tools a 6 aH doesn't seem to add any power over a 2aH

  • @diegomurillo2194
    @diegomurillo2194 Před 3 lety

    I have both the M18 and M12 stubby impact wrenches and the M18 is still brand new in my toolbox. The M12 is just superior.

  • @SanKraN87
    @SanKraN87 Před 2 lety +1

    to bad you didnt throw in the 3ah battery overthere, i was curios about 2ah vs 3ah performance :)

  • @WizzRacing
    @WizzRacing Před 3 lety

    These test are great. Till you put an extension on them.. Why they work better with the 4.0...As you will get the same spec as the smaller ones..But the smaller ones don't like extensions...They fall way off...Add a wobble socket. They really fall flat...

  • @chiparooo
    @chiparooo Před 3 lety

    Lots of good info in this video! Thanks for sharing!

  • @chrisberesford3879
    @chrisberesford3879 Před 2 lety

    Would be great if you could test the waitley copy batteries they seem the best quality, even the 9ah m12 vs Milwaukee 6ah, just be interesting! Thanks for the great content! Chris.

  • @mhack9881
    @mhack9881 Před 3 lety +1

    Good job, thanks for sharing.

  • @idoit4urmom
    @idoit4urmom Před 3 lety

    Ingersoll rand also makes a 20v right angle

  • @martylucas8557
    @martylucas8557 Před 3 lety

    Torque Channel Guys, I really enjoy watching your channel. You all add reality to tool buying and actual use. I also like the M12 grip. I guess the guys with the small little hands prefer the thinner grips. I feel you can get a better purchase on the tool.

  • @backhandahooker
    @backhandahooker Před 3 lety

    great video! thank you for the very useful buyers advice!

  • @davidgomez5116
    @davidgomez5116 Před rokem

    Now to test the new 3.0 compact

  • @anthonyamaya3088
    @anthonyamaya3088 Před 3 lety

    Man I would really enjoy seeing the Ingersoll rand 20v right angle and 1/2 impact tested against the Milwaukee

  • @meme5887
    @meme5887 Před 2 lety

    When the new high output m12s come out, can you redo this test (or just add the chart) and also do the 3.0cp and 3.0xp? Us viewers would really appreciate it!! ❤️

  • @Had22s
    @Had22s Před rokem +1

    Time to test the new 2.5 and 5 amp high output batteries.

  • @TheXxRenzxX
    @TheXxRenzxX Před 3 lety +1

    I'd love to see you guys test the knockoff M12 batteries. Got a set of 2 for 25 bucks, definitely not as good but still usable

    • @BM-ut5nx
      @BM-ut5nx Před 3 lety

      Yes absolutely, would love to see this!!!!

  • @Stay_Zero13
    @Stay_Zero13 Před rokem +1

    @torquetestchannel can you do the new high output batteries?

  • @ERICSDIYGARAGE
    @ERICSDIYGARAGE Před 2 lety +1

    Any possibility of getting a 3.0 m12 compact battery and testing it to see the difference as well?

  • @Nessal83
    @Nessal83 Před 3 lety

    FINALLY SOMEONE DID THIS TEST