European Football Is BROKEN (but who even cares?)
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- čas přidán 14. 06. 2024
- A video essay on everyone's favourite european football leagues.
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0:00 Intro
0:44 The unpredictable Premier League
3:55 European domination
5:56 Causation
9:00 Wages
10:52 Serie A - a bastion of hope?
15:25 The Super League (again?)
18:40 Wage caps and Financial Fair Play
22:25 Football is broken
23:15 but who cares?
28:11 Conclusion
29:38 Outro
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This is probably the first time ever where the predicted champion was so obvious and only appear to have fringe challengers at best during the preseason. It feels like it will be like this for years. United always had at least one team like Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool, Blackburn, or Newcastle to challenge them even if they took the title most of the time.
City could have a hangover from last season whilst Arsenal, United, Chelsea, Liverpool and Newcastle should all be stronger than last season - Any one of those 5 could win the title if City slip up.
Bayern haven't just dominated the Bundesliga for one decade, they've dominated the Bundesliga for FIVE DECADES!
They've won 31 of their 32 Bundesliga titles since 1972!
Juventus have won 23 of their 34 Serie A titles since 1972!
Real Madrid have won 21 of their 35 La Liga titles since 1972!
Barcelona have won 19 of their 26 La Liga titles since 1974!
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Man U have the most English titles in that same period with 13 whilst Liverpool have won 12 and Manchester City 7 in the same period {Arsenal and Chelsea have 5 each since 1974}.
Just wait until Pep leaves the club, only then it might become interesting
@@djungelskog67awww boo hoo. Pep has transformed football in England and is here for a long time. Get used to it and stop crying
No point, just like Scotland, Spain, France...
Well, well Europeans acknowledging that most of their teams will never get within sight of the top of their leagues, while at the same time every single poor stupid American MLS team has a GOOD shot at winning their league almost EVERY year. My, my how awful to have enough parity within a league that 19 out of 31 teams have played in the championship game within the last 25 years and 15 or the 31 teams have won at least one championship in that time. It must be a tragedy that such a league continues to exist when in the "real" football world only a handful of super-rich teams should ever be allowed to win anything.
The point about high attendance in Germany can be really hammered home with a look at the 2nd Bundesliga. Hamburg rocked an average of 53.500 without even reaching promotion after years being stuck in the 2nd League, half the league is above 20.000 and my own club Hansa Rostock saw it's highest average attendance in it's history, higher than in any of the 12 years in the Bundesliga.
Also honorable mention to 1860 Munich who had their stadium filled to its maximum capacity of 15.000 for literally every game of the 3rd League season.
I follow Nurnberg (but am from Scotland) and there's some fallen powerhouses with huge supports in the German second tier.
It's more indicative of a mess hamburg are in then anything, it's just unusual for such big clubs to fall so far but when it does happen with the likes of Newcastle and Villa getting relegated they keep the same attendance and even Sunderland in the third division had 2x the amount of 1860
Bordeaux in L2 Malaga in Spain etc
It's not how many people attend games, it's how much revenue the club generates from ticket sales. If you give away tickets, you can easily fill a stadium. But if you can sell tickets for high prices and sell out, that is a whole different story.
The channel “HITC sevens” very recently had a video on “why Germany’s best clubs keep getting relegated.” It addresses that very subject and Hamburg gets a mention, although I’m afraid Hansa Rostock does not (iirc).
The Belgian league is one of the most exciting left with 7 different champions in the last 15 years, and this past season being decided in the 90+ minute of the final game. With three teams still in contention (at that very moment) of which only one of them had won it in the last 60+ years. With a final minute screamer by a central defender from outside the box to decide it all.
Yet it's actually maddening the amount of arguments I have with people turning away from our league to support big money foreign clubs as there's a certain sense of elitism around it. It's more fashionable to support PSG, Liverpool or Real Madrid compared to KRC Genk, AA Gent etc..
Belgium 😂
I ain't watching belgian football bruv
@@erik-sr9bj Ranked 8th by Uefa and 6th by Opta sports, if that is already to low to hold your attention perhaps we should get it over with and terminate every competition not called 'Premier League'
@@Benito264 bro, 99% of people just watch their own country's league. I don't watch prem, because I don't care about Brighton or whatever, am not a Brit.
Belgium league lol give me a break
I run a heavy equipment business in Texas (I’m an English expat) and I listen to hours of footy content everyday as I work and I can tell you that the standard of your videos is way, way higher than your current sub count reflects so keep going and I’m certain you’ll get a much larger following. I’m in for the ride and will recommend you to others. Good luck.
Appreciate it
Couldn’t agree more. I expected 10’s of thousands of subs. Great content and format, keep it up dude
You must be a millionaire out there?
@@fbaallied Lol not quite. If I was a millionaire I probably wouldn’t spend every day in hot and sticky machines moving crap from one place to another.
@lonestarlimey455 I'm saying property prices and space must be great value for money compared to the U.K.?
12:04; The fact that newly promoted AC Monza is higher than Atalanta Bergamo and Torino FC shocks me more than any part in the video.
It was owned by Berlusconi...
As an American who’s been getting into European soccer I feel like we have this in America with college football. Here in America like Europe there are 5 big leagues or as we call them conferences. While they have less teams it operates in a similar manner of the winners usually play in the best post league season tournaments. Here in America it’s the playoffs and bowl games. Like Europe there’s also smaller leagues or again conferences but like in Europe on the national stage they almost never amount to anything. I feel like what happens here is so similar to Europe expect college football conferences tend to have more winners but still a select pool of teams who really contend. Take for example Ligue 1 and the Big 12 conference. With Ligue 1 it’s almost always PSG with maybe 1 other contender and in the Big 12 it’s Texas and Oklahoma almost every single year. Say in Germany Bayern always wins with Dortmund being the only other contender, well the Big Ten conference for the last 6 years has been all Ohio State or Michigan. Like with European soccer and the UCL, the college football playoffs is open to tons of teams but everyone knows realistically like 5-10 teams can win it. Here in America even though we have 70 teams across those 5 conferences I’d say ten at max have a shot at the national title (Georgia, Alabama, Ohio State, Michigan, LSU, USC, Clemson, Florida State and Penn State) I think this is why for American pro sports we have the salary cap so every team can have a period of contention if they have a competent front office
Wonderfully put.
Salary caps and drafts enable competition and counter the snowball effect of successful teams getting money leading to being more successful and so on.
@@YHWHsam Exactly. The only problem is that European soccer is designed against that with academies and lots of major leagues
@@larrylane7822 yeah i was surprised that salary caps were foreign concepts to european sports fans. I guess im so used to it i just took it for granted
@@YHWHsam definitely. I can understand why Man City fans and Newcastle fans and teams like those worth billions and can spend billions would be fine without it but like me an Everton fan I feel like they need it because realistically I may never seen Everton win the Premier League in my lifetime
This is just the endgame of the Bosman ruling. Football was way healthier before it. Players have too much power now.
“The Prem wasn’t a Farmers League”
*Laughs in Man United*
Great video loved it . Agree with a lot of things you've said .
One thing to mention about the broken system is the fact that the alternative option of becoming a competitive side is being squashed .
The alternative being : Developing Youth talents and rigorous scouting .
Teams like Brentford , Brighton and RC Lens are having their exceptional youth players snapped up by the bigger clubs without even having a chance to develop a competitive squad .
Look at Monaco 2017 and Ajax 2019 for example . They shouldve been powerhouses.... now ... what ?
Yep Leicester City dismantled pretty quickly after 2015/2016 when the big clubs enticed players like Kante and Mahrez away with big wages. You make a good point.
Exactly. It sickens me that everytime one of these "wonder teams" pop up we all know that next season they're gonna be raided by the big fat vultures with even bigger wallets. Like Brighton this season for instance. And the alternative of somehow limiting wage bills or transfers would backfire the moment Saudi Arabia comes knocking without any sort of wage restrictions (as seen currently with the "slap on the wrist" restrictions Europe has with FFP)
Yeah, it's crazy that these suprising teams get dismanteled after just one or two seasons. Sad to see.
@@Alex-mq6qi Interesting thought - I guess that idea must be something terrible, since it is only what that poor stupid, good-for nothing MLS does, and everyone know that MLS is this horrible league that does awful things like use local players, ensures parity, etc. A league where 19 out of 31 teams have played in the league championship in the last 25 years and where 15 of the 31 teams have one at least one championship in that same 25 years. I mean how could FIFA allow a league to exist that actually cares about its teams & communities to have hope to exist.
@@gregorybiestek3431 what?
The problem I think is the UCL. It's the ultimate price for every footballer on club level. But since it is so limited who can qualify players will inevitably drift towards regular competitors. The reason teams like Brighton, Aston Villa, Spurs, Sevilla, Atalanta, Lens, Lyon...etc. can't keep their top talent is not necessarily wages or the prestige of big clubs (although these surely play a part too). It's that every good player will want to move to a club that is almost guaranteed to be in the UCL. And since all the good players flock to these clubs, the talent makes sure they stay there too.
To break this loop more teams should be given a chance to get into the UCL. Cup competitors are always more unpredictable than leagues and we've seen that teams like Brighton for example can absolutely spank big clubs on their day so they could even get quite far. If ever they could get into the UCL. I think there should be a lot more group stage qualifier games so teams that finish 5th or 6th in the top European Leagues could still get into the CL group stages by winning a one or two qualifiers. And if they lose they could drop to the EL or ECL.
I'm a Sevilla fan and I can't understand why we're not considered a "top club"
We've won more European tournaments than any club in the 21st century, the Europa League which we win like atleast once every two or three years is a trophy clubs like Man United or Arsenal can only drool over, and still they're treated with bigger relevancy than us when in the last 10 years we've won significantly more than atleast clubs like Arsenal or Spurs. LaLiga doesn't allow any club that isn't Madrid to make big signings because they're as strict as the Third Reich and it's honestly killing Spanish Football. The fact that you need to have finances equaled to quite literally the biggest and wealthiest club in world football to even try and compete is sad.
@@miguelpalomares3441 Sevilla is a lovely club don't get me wrong. I especially liked them around 06-07 with Luis Fabiano + Kanouté up front and skillful players on the wing, like Duda, Jesus Navas, Dani Alves, Kerzhakov...etc. But Sevilla has exactly 0 Champions League / ECC wins, and the last time they won la liga, Japan was just surrendering to the United States to end world war II. That was their first and last win, in 1945-46. Even though it is a very respectable achievement, the best players aren't dreaming of the Europa League trophy. And that's exactly the point. As soon as Sevilla has a player that is elite level (like Dani Alves or Sergio Ramos back in the day) he is going to leave. Because he knows at Sevilla he can only realistically win the Europa League or maybe the Spanish cup and that's it. Like I said, maybe if Sevilla had a regular chance to play in the UCL through maybe qualifier games, more good players would stay.
@@neemnoa303 fair
@@neemnoa303they could be persuaded by bags of cash i think. What can for example Ruben Neves win in saudi league? What could Oscar win in china? Sevilla just needs to find some oil in the ground nearby.
@jakubsevcik1 *& a regulatory body that looks the other way so no meaningful penalties,fines, or restrictions are put into place. The real issue here is that each of these leagues has their own "in house" regulatory committee that decides what penalties get levied, or don't, and when or even if a rule has actually been broken. And we all know that FFP in EPL is absolutely NOT going to levy a ruling or penalty that is going to risk possibly upsetting the overall profit if EPL as a whole. So city will never in a bazillion years see a penalty or fine relative to committing 115 violations of a financial act. Ever. When the did last get a fine, it was what 2 mil? Chump change to the sheik, or prince, or whatever title their fixer owns. The leagues need fan oversight significant enough to have influence bc fans aren't reliant on a paycheck. The DFL is the only league w any integrity & that's mainly due to the 50+1 rule. Which Bayern is an exception but only bc of their amazing business model & success. The rules on books need 1st to be enforced as written. (City & other state owners) & go from there. But hey, city has just won their 1st UCL so it still has competitive parody.
How do you have less than 100 subscribers while making such good videos? Well, you just gained one more, keep up the good work!
Thanks Oliver! More to come!
I wouldn't have even noticed if you didn't comment it.
Housing prices were also at their highest before the bubble bust. It could be the same with football. all the mega tv deals, record breaking transfers, full stadiums could be a sign of a downturn coming.
Possibly, but despite the absurdity, I still don't see it. Clubs are full of cash because of the TV deals, and the TV deals are worth so much because of the expansion globally. Interest in soccer (and especially the Premier League) in places like the USA and Asia still have a lot of room to grow. The bubble will eventually burst, but not yet imo.
Thanks for watching!
full stadiums are a sign of a downturn coming? I am not sure if you are trolling or what...
@@GNMbg I'm suggesting that all the prosperity in football right now is deceptive because a lot of it is either driven by debt or unsustainable financing.
american investors started buying european clubs, because they thought they were undervalued. the intention often is to sell them with a profit at some point. now the value of clubs has been rising by a very high rate, there will be a time when they are overvalued and then the bubble should burst. we are at a point where states (saudi-arabia, qatar, VAE) are investing heavily and their interest isn't really an economic one. so club values will likely be inflated to a point where investments are just not profitable anymore and financial investors will stay away. i don't see it happening anytime soon, but it seems to be inevitable. right now we see investors buy up all kinds of clubs even in third tier division and often with no knowledge how to run them (see 777partners), that might be a sign for a bubble which is going to burst soon. it also depends on what the states involved will do in the future, if they suddenly pull out, it might lead to values decreasing rapidly.
@@GNMbg well, it means there are limited opportunuities to grow revenues. at this point some clubs can only do it by raising ticket prices and there is the question how much people are willing to pay. others would need to build new stadiums, which can be risky. so it could possibly be a (early) sign of that
its beyond me how the Bundesliga is on the thumbnail of this video. european football is broken, but Bundesliga is legit the only top5 league which has integrity
Well, except for some clubs. (RB, Wolfsburg, Hoffenheim, Leverkusen, etc) But still, most Bundesliga clubs can't ever compete with Bayern esp since their fan-funding can be the reason why they fall of and not compete financially (Ex. Dortmund almost going bankrupt in 2004, or present-day Schalke dropping to 2. Bundesliga.. again)
A top 5 league where the exact same team has won it 11 straight times
@@havenharris1793 I didn't say Bundesliga isn't a part of the problem. The payouts are uneven. But the gap between the prize money is way less in the BuLi than in the prem and laliga. On top of that, Bundesliga is the most ethical top5 league. I'm not saying it doesn't have it's problems, but it shouldn't be on the thumbnail.
Coming to Bayern. Bayern have won 11 in a row ONLY AND ONLY BECAUSE THEY ARE MASTERS OF BUSINESS. Bayern's business model is what makes them successful, not European league payouts.
Everything great about German football is ruined by Bayern. Why can't Bayern get players from South America, Africa, Portugal, Eastern Europe etc... Instead of raiding their competititors
Bundesliga with Bayern is the same as ligue1 with Psg (only difference is quality of other teams is a bit higher in Germany). A league where one team wins for more than 10years in a row has some problems. All the good players in German clubs go to Bayern...
From 1995 to 2004 Manchester United shared with Arsenal 9 champions in a row.
From 2005 to 2011 Manchester United shared 7 more titles with Chelsea.
Yes, from 2012 till 2020 PL champion was quite unpredictable - but that was more likely an exception than a rule. And most leagues often have long-term dominator - that's fine, no worries.
Two clubs dominating is interesting. Just one club (Bayern, PSG, Juventus, Red Star Belgrade...) is boring
@@leometz7287Man City
I just got goose bumbs watching any Dortmund match last season. Their fans are just insane in creating an unforgettable atmosphere. They are the definition of supporters. Eintracht Frankfurt Fans are a bit extreme but no one is louder than they are. They are singing team songs from a supporter book in tens of thousands in sync, that's an atmosphere that is sometimes more worth than the match itself.
Many people are sleeping on the DFL as a whole m mate. The Wolfsburg stadium during team entrance is unlike anything Ive seen. Amazing. More leagues need to emulate the DFL w style of 0lay, quality of play, & most importantly atmosphere
Wage caps will probably force a lot of top talent towards the Gulf or MLS which isn't a solution. What UEFA should do is revert the course they started after 1997 season and limit the amount of teams each top country sends in the champions league.Between 1977 and 1997 there were 12 teams that won the trophy for the first time (liverpool, forest, villa, hamburg,juventus,steaua,porto,PSV,Barcelona,Marseille,Red Star, BVB). Between 1998 and 2023 there have been only two: Chelsea and Man City. This was a watershed moment and the inflection point where top clubs started accumulating so much wealth that the competition became an affair only for the mega rich and their wealth makes it nearly impossible for their domestic competition to keep up. And it is not just the wealth, UEFA is shielding the big and rich clubs from playing each other until the latter stages, ensuring they will almost always collect most of the money, In that way UEFA created a feedback loop: Money buys top talent. Top talent bring success in the UCL. Success in the UCL brings in money. Money buys top talent. The only way to break this chain as Chelsea and City have shown is be acquired by a megarich entity that wants in and is willing to invest. What UEFA needs to be done is to allow two teams from each country in the UCL at most (maybe with a few exceptions like allowing the previous year winners of UCL and EL to participate without taking a country slot) and stop with the aggressive seeding and grouping. Allow big clubs to fight each other early on, let the poorer clubs stand a chance. Spread the wealth.The path we are on right now is what led to the superleague attempts. So if UCL starts to give fewer spots to big countries, Barcelona and Real Madrid will once again need La Liga as much as La Liga needs them.
MLS already has wage restrictions. Extremely tight competition ones at that. It is already taking about as many huge players at teams are allowed to have (each team is allowed up to only 3 players over 1.8million per year ).
The designated player rules work though, and would be far better than a straight cap or luxury tax system like other US sports. It allows teams to have only a limited number of huge players. It makes roster construction around those players a huge skill, and that’s part of why MLS OVER PREFORMS ITS PARITY. It’s more important to spend smart than spend more. The top spending teams are 2.5 times more than the bottom, but we have 9 different champs is 10 years, and the big spenders are just as likely to be bottom of the table as top.
The lowest wage bill Saint Louis are 1st in their conference and the top spenders Toronto are on track to end bottom two.
MLS isn't much better. We have salary caps here too
You can spread the wealth without limiting each country to 2 teams or making the top teams fight each other early on. UEFA has a fix price money for the whole competition. Just share it equally amongst the teams that qualified for the group stages and done. There would still be a monetary incitive to stay in the competition as long as you can since more games means more matchday revenue: tickets + tv rights + advertising money. But the competition prize money could be immediately distributed evenly among the participants.
At the same time, I would allow more teams from each country to battle it out in group stage qualifiers. Like the top 6 of each top European league should have a chance to get into the group stages. The only difference between the leagues should be how many teams qualify automatically and how many have to battle it out in group stage qualifiers.
Your feedback loop reference is pretty deceiving though. Because it's like that in every single business and in every single avenue of human life. Success brings money and money cleverly invested brings more success.
It would also make it more competitive as teams are happy just getting top four
Totally agree! There used to be three highly prestigious European competitions (European Cup, UEFA Cup and the Cup Winners' Cup) and now there's just one prestigious competition and two others that a lot of clubs don't care about!
High quality & interesting video bro! Deserves way more views than it has right now!
This was an incredibly well done video. I wasn’t expecting to sit through all 30 minutes by I did. Definitely subscribing. Keep it up!! 🔥🔥
I'm a die-hard Bundesliga fan. Yeah bayern dominate the league, but outside of who finishes 1st, it's the most competitive league, amazing drama. Match Day experience and club culture is incredible in the Bundesliga.
While what you said isn't wrong you could also easily argue against it. The Bundesliga is so boring that you have to cope yourself into believing that the league is competitive within the lower ranges of the table. Over the last few years i've watched the Bundesliga less and less, because Bayern always wins in the end. I couldn't care less about which team gets relegated etc. If no other club can win the league it makes it inherently uninteresting to watch.
@@Bulletsforfree Well obviously Bundesliga title race is absoulute shit, but as stated in the video there is more to a league than the title race. If you dont care about who gets relegated or makes european competition obviously it gonna be boring.
@@Bulletsforfree that's not how the word ''cope'' is used, the bundesliga is very competitive outside of the title race, that's a fact, although last season even the title race was competitive and great to watch.
The person even admits that bayern dominate the league.
Obviously outsiders wouldn't really care about relegation battle (like you), race for european spots and really the history of the clubs and stuff like that, that's why the Bundesliga doesn't get much traction outside of Germany.
@@Bulletsforfree to be fair, the reality is that, even prior to the bayern dominance, most clubs didn't have a shot at the title and they are selling lots of tickets. cologne hasn't had a real chance of becoming champions for decades, schalke and HSV are playing in the second league. yet those teams are extremely popular. meanwhile teams like leipzig or hoffenheim and wolfsburg a couple of years ago were doing quite good on the pitch, but never became really popular. the dominance affects international interest, especially from asia and the us, but domestically that has never been a problem.
When Bayern became Dortmund 2.0 without Dortmund receiving a lot off cash in that process, i tuned out. Beyond anything i would like to watch in a competitive sport.
Personally also not into the drama side, only thing missing in Germany now is Opera...
Football is amazing. "Pro" football (succer) is more about whoreshipping & brownnozing than actually playing the sport. STATS STATS STATS EVERYWHERE I LOOK! "pro" sport is sick, near dying.
Not to even mention prices. I need to pay maximum buck to sit in my prison for a 1080 stream. Stadium prices are beyond insanity. Parking near Stadiums is to costly. Traintickets to the match are to costly. Heck, 1 beer at a stadium 5-8 euro?!?!@?@#?!@?$!@?$.
Match Day experience and club culture *_WAS_* incredible in the Bundesliga. Beyond terrible now for everybody not a shill.
The Dutch Eredivisie has existed for 67 years, the traditional top 3 (Ajax, Feyenoord and PSV) have won 60 times.
Fantastic video! It’s nice to see people pay attention to the little things in football and not just the results
Nothing is permanent. Dominant sides change, big teams come crashing down, leagues' popularity and competitiveness varies over time no matter who owns who. What we have seen is just a small spec in the vast timeline of football. Every era has it's own dominant teams.
Change is permanent and overreaction to it won't stop or change what would happen.
Is it simply an overreaction, or a catalyst for future change? Are you not, in fact, the one who opposes change by shutting down its prompt?
If you want a REALLY competitive league you must watch the Brasileirão, is just so unpredictable, Gremio which Had been relegated in 2021 is now fighting for 2nd, Botafogo, which had little to no expectation in the start of the season is now top of the league with 10 pts of advantage
Great video! Perhaps could have been 15 minutes instead of 30 but I heard it throughout, so maybe I'm wrong and 30 mins was just right. I enjoyed. Please continue!
Just subscribed bro, I can see this channel growing cause of the content! 👊🏽
Honestly, the Bundesliga has to be the most entertaining of the top 5 leagues, the title race was insane and it took a Sunday league esque bottle job by dortmund to throw away the league title, the relegation battle was absolutely insane and the race for European spots was fantastic.
Yeah but prior to that Bayern won by 12, 13 and 13 points. Not exactly close, especially in a 34 game league. The league does have a lot going for it outside of who wins (aka Bayern) but it could do with a period of decline for Bayern to bring more variety and interest to the league.
@@willrocks4985Well, if Bayern declined, then Dortmund or RB Leipzig would probably go on to do the same. Sad but true.
Bayern had an awful season and still won the league. They won’t have such a terrible season this year so it’s petty much done already. They are too dominant. The Bundesliga is, in my opinion, the least watchable major league in Europe. The Serie A is the best by far as no one knows who will win it this year and it has been unpredictable for 4 years running.
@@Bendaak I don't watch a lot of either league but I would sooner watch the Bundesliga instead of Serie A. Serie A is hampered by mostly terrible stadiums, creating boring atmospheres. Plus if you are interested in what happens off the pitch the 'quality' of the fans is not high. All leagues have their problems but I think it is fair to say there is more violence and racism in Italy compared to Germany. Outside of Bayern Munich, I think a lot of the games are fun and fast paced with great stadiums and atmosphere.
@@willrocks4985 Not interested in a one horse race. I generally only watch the EPL but even that is a one horse race now. City will win by Xmas and the rest of the season will be a formality.
Amazing video, I kept checking how much time was left because I didn't want it to end 😂
i put this video on in the background and when i saw the sub count i was shocked. keep up the good work
It's all about the money - I support SC Freiburg who have become known in the Bundesliga to make a lot out of modest means. They have a very stable set-up in their management and coaching team, and, as much as I can judge, an ethically run academy. Their second team finished 2. in the 3. Bundesliga. However, I catch myself watching the transfer market, hoping that Freiburg will boost their ranks with some 'bigger' names to be able to compete well next season. And watch with dismay as Barcelona coaxes away one of their most promising young talents in Noah Darvich, with a transfer clause of 1 billion, apparently. Or Kevin Schade going to Brentford, where he often sits on the bench, instead of injecting pace and danger into Freiburg's game.
However, there is nothing better than your 'underdog' team winning a match against the big guns. The recent Bundesliga season was sooo unpredictable and really exciting to watch, even though Bayern through some most inexplicable turn of events still won the title. But we never give up hope that they don't. ; )
I hope this video gives you the subscriber boom you deserve. Well researched and paced too
great video mate! keep up with the excellent work. cheers!
Bundesliga is very competitive, bayern only won the league 11 times in a row
Good video my friend, you could have a future on this field, all the best
Maan, you are too good, keep it up, you earned a subscriber
Subscribed! YT algorithm finally recommended some quality footy content.
CZcams been doing their good job it seems recommending me good content. Dont mind on the length I rather have long length as I treat these long form videos as podcast.
Awesome video bro, keep that work up and you'll hit your first 100k in no time. Just subscribed, so I'll be here for the ride.
It's inevitable, because it's a microcosm of capitalism. The rich get richer, like game of monopoly it gets harder and harder to compete. The solution is to have a league first approach rather than a club first approach. The mls are a good example of this in a way, they want the league overall to be as exciting as possible for all fans, not just the top teams.
When they decided that multiple teams from a single league can qualify for the money rich Champions League(not exactly champions anymore)that meant a bullet to the head for the smaller clubs that were raising youngsters
The problem with the European League was not the fact thta it was European, but rather there not being any way for any other team to promote into it.
Fantastic video, you have a new subscriber!
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Instant subscribe ..keep it uo bro❤
Europeans have a simple choice.
Option A: continue doing what has always been done. You will continue to have a handful of wildly successful clubs, whilst the remainder of the clubs in each domestic pyramid fight for the privilege of getting kicked in the teeth by the prordained few.
Option B: demand wholesale change in order to create competitive balance and intramural parity.
Option B seems like the easy choice from a fan's point of view. When I say "fan", I mean general enthusiasts of the drama of sport, as well as the specific supporter bases of those clubs in the outside looking in.
However, Option B would require some difficult choices which would likely rile up traditionalists, as well as the rich and powerful who control federations, as well as the boards of the most powerful clubs (who are, understandably, quite comfortable with the status quo).
Option B would also look very, well, American. Parity is the hallmark of North American sports leagues. Looking only at MLS, a quick check reveals that there have been about 16 different MLS Cup winners in the last 20 years. There has furthermore not been a repeat winner since 2007. The NFL, NBA, NHL, and MLB are all similarly balanced.
I understand that Europeans have a different concept of competition. To your mind, the practice of promotion and relegation is the pinnacle of of competition. I get it.
Americans, however, favor competition within the season in order to give a greater number of teams a realistic chance to win. They furthermore shuffle the deck every season in order to create as level of a playing field as possible. In other words, if a team is sh1t year in and year out, is not because they didn't have an equal opportunity to improve and become competitive.
I'm not suggesting that European leagues adopt an American-style, closed league model. Far from it. But, I am suggesting that Europeans learn some things from the way the Americans conduct their business. Sport is, after all, a product of popular culture. Popular culture (music, television, film, blue jeans, etc, etc, etc) is something Americans do extremely well.
Just a thought. Do with it as you will.
I agree that the americn system of reshuffling keeps it refreshing but as a system it makes little sense competitvely wise, I cannot get my head around the concept of being rewarded for being bad, by winning something you are directly negatively affecting how good your team will be in the future, if your team has no chance of winning you might as well throw the towel in on the first day of a season and let your team be rewarded for it, with no threat of relegation and no incentive of prize money or qualifying for further competitions. There is a fine balance but equality cannot simultaneously exist with relegation. The answer must lie in some sort of cap of salary, high enough so that not everyone is able to reach it and you still allow successful teams to be able to use prize money and massive fanbases and the income that they represent to get an edge over the competition, rewarding playing well, but not so high that the top teams can completely dominate. Ultimately dynastys fall and the idea that the big team will one day be toppled allowing a new king to enter, or a new team to reach that elite status such as 'the big six' keeps us hungry throughout the season. We have the perfect sport the perfect pyramid system the perfect qualification system, we are just one tiny step away from perfecting how all sport should be ran.
@@marcusgilbert6200 Fans in Portugal have been waiting almost 100 years though for the Big Three dynasties to fall. One of the Big Three has won the league title every year except 1945-46 and 2000-01. Many people have been born, lived their entire lives and died without ever seeing their team achieve success in that league. It's similar in other European football leagues and positions have definitely become more entrenched in recent years.
@@Monaleenianfootball does not rely on winning, if it did then me supporting my local non-league side could be deemed as pointless because realistically they will never win the prem, this doesn't stop fans from going to games and haing the same passion, every game has someting on the line and is beneficial to the winner. The complete opposite is true in america. Fine one position is more competetive but every other game might as well be a friendly
Belgian pro league : Hold my 3 teams who can still be chamions on the last matchday
this video is such a breath of fresh air....
I Feel so happy bx in Brazil we have 12 Big clubs, so anything can happen.
Satellite TV was the end of the beautiful game for me.
The biggest argument against a super league is simply champions league still being somewhat competitive. Sure we seem to have gone from spanish dominance to probably now english dominance, but no team won too much consecutively in history, and even though english clubs dominate it, its got other winners(/finalists) like bayern munich or real Madrid rather consistently. If you watch european football, you do it to watch the champions league + whichever club you like in its regional league. As long as the premier league cant shut down the relevance of best clubs in other regions by their qualification to champions league this tournament stays interesting. Its one of the few reasons (next to money and domestic titles of course) why big names still go/stay to a bayern/PSG/Madrid/Barcelona/BVB in favor of a top 3- top 8 premier league club.
La liga is actually looking more competitive than any of those leagues. You were generous with Barcelona being crowned winners “again” it’s been years for them, it’s been since they had Lionel Messi. Atlético has also won a la liga since Barcelona had last won it. Sería A has also had ac milan, inter and Napoli win it. So those are two leagues who are definitely doing better than a 5/6 winner in the premier league.
I just realized you dont even have over 500 subs after watching the video, really felt like i was watching a 100k+ yt channel documentary
Seria is looking to be more competitive again
Great video! I think the UCL might be the biggest problem, as the biggest clubs get all the best players, because they want to play UCL. And on top of that the money you get from the CL disrupts the balance even more.
Partially true. Big Clubs like Man U, even when they aren’t in the UCL, can recruit pretty much anyone. Arsenal, when in the UCL, still struggle to pick up marquee signings.
Great video!
Bro. You have 330 subs; this video alone has 300+ likes.
Be a bit more patient, you are about to blow up. Congratulations!
Stats since year 2000:
Premier League, according to an AI, generated about $50billions. LaLiga half or even less than that.
Titles won internationally since 2000:
Spanish Teams: 36 trophies, 47% of every trophy since 2000.
English Teams: 13 trophies...
Quote 2022 article:
"Overall LaLiga sides have won 33 UEFA trophies in the 21st century. Which is the same total as every other league *combined*."
Ballon d'Or: Spanish teams 24x, Italian teams 18x, English teams ....
In between Spain won , for the first time ever and not replicated by any other team: euro, world cup and euro back to back.
Women won their first World Cup.
You can have all that petrodollar from Asia, Saudi etc. We may generate less revenue, but will win more trophies, being fútbol, tennis, Basketball etc.
On top of that:
Spanish Basketball National
4x gold medals, 6x silver medal and 4x bronze medals at Eurobasket. And 2x world cups.
On a club level: 9x Euroleague titles
English Basketball: ...
Tennis:
Spain: Daviscup 6x more than any other nation. Total 22x grand slams (20 by Rafa abd 2 by Muguruza).
England: 1x Andy Murray and 1x Daviscup2015
F1:
Spain: 2
England: not 7* whoops, but 8.
forgot Button.
Okay, Okay...you win that easily. ;)
English Fútbol teams are like highly successful CZcams, Twitch streamers, who constantly beg their viewers to subscribe, to share, to comment and to buy their shitty merch.
Thing is tho, the fans aren’t the ones playing. So it doesn’t matter what we think, the players are the ones playing and if the best ones go to the same team to win, like they want to do, then fine
Mate, you've got it bang on right.
I have been thinking about this for a while and it's about time someone did an analysis on how modern football is just a few big clubs dominating all the others.
I reckon, in this respect, the rise of the leagues in the middle east would be a great variable.
Well, well Europeans acknowledging that most of their teams will never get within sight of the top of their leagues, while at the same time every single poor stupid American MLS team has a GOOD shot at winning their league almost EVERY year. My, my how awful to have enough parity within a league that 19 out of 31 teams have played in the championship game within the last 25 years and 15 or the 31 teams have won at least one championship in that time. It must be a tragedy that such a league continues to exist when in the "real" football world only a handful of super-rich teams should ever be allowed to win anything.
I was wondering how European leagues would do if they introduced a playoff system where the top 8 teams compete for the league title and the European qualifiers.
Absolutely horrid and boring. What would be the point. It's just cup competition any one can pull 3 or 4 games in a row
Even though its not by any means a big league. Swiss football league has had fc basel win it for like as long as i can remember. But now we had some mixups with yb and fc zürich wining it (fc zürich) were even relegated some seasons before thry won it and play for relegation the year after they won it. I think its a cycle that has a Team domenating and then some years of chaos and then a new team domenating. Only thing u could do would maybe be to take some income for teams out of the champions league (resp. Give it to the teams in the diffrent domestic leagues).
Shit, how do you have only 1250 subs? That Video was fucking amazing!
This really puts in perspective just how incredible leicester's premier league win really was. Doubt I will see anything like it at the club level in my lifetime. Club football has become so predictable that I only enjoy watching international football tbh
Well, well Europeans acknowledging that most of their teams will never get within sight of the top of their leagues, while at the same time every single poor stupid American MLS team has a GOOD shot at winning their league almost EVERY year. My, my how awful to have enough parity within a league that 19 out of 31 teams have played in the championship game within the last 25 years and 15 or the 31 teams have won at least one championship in that time. It must be a tragedy that such a league continues to exist when in the "real" football world only a handful of super-rich teams should ever be allowed to win anything.
@@gregorybiestek3431 Well, Europeans and Americans have different views on sport. In US it is product, in Europe its passion, u support your club no matter how well they do
I'm a brazilian. Well, you guys brought this to yourselves. After simply removing foreign players limit the richest clubs were able to build teams with the ebst players all over the world, striping all other continents of it's best players and ending competition. Football is not organized in a system like the american leagues, it's based in free market. So the richest clubs took all player from everybody else. The PL was not as affected by this because it distributes almost equally it's revenues to all clubs. In the brazilian league, we're trying to get to level of organization of the PL and the clubs are negociating to create a league. Because of it's footballing history, Brazil's league has 12 clubs that are considered big. Of course there are richer clubs but all other clubs compete. In the Brasileirão we have 3 champions in the last 4 years and this year the leader (wich will most likely win) is a different club than te others in this list. I used to watch the european leagues but I don't anymore because it got boring. Everyone knows who will win. Brazil's league is so competitive that my team, Fluminense, scaped relegation in 2009, won 2010 championship, won 2012 chmpionship and was almost relegated in 2013. That's the kind of surprise factor that the european leagues lack
Absolutely brrilliant new soccer pod. Well written full of insights. 343 , but wheres subscribe button?? ?
You decided to forget about serie A having 4 different champions
2020 Juventus
2021 Inter Milan
2022 AC Milan
2023 Napoli
Sorry had not watched the full video can you cover what happened in Serie A in detail
No one cares about Serie A...Napoli is the only club producing world class players
Great video..
When German football returned before English football, I started to support Koln.. And have continued to do so. I really want to get there for a game this season..
I think generally. The German Bundesliga is a fun league to watch.. But a boring league to follow.
23:45, actually, stadium attendance is becoming less and less important as time goes on. Nowadays, the majority of the revenue made by top clubs are from broadcasting rights.
MLS BABY! as grid iron football dies a slow death in america i think football would be america's second favorite sport, imagine 40 mls teams with budgets the size of NFL teams, imagine an ncaa college soccer with the budget of college football. america could buy the world best footballers and play in the MLS in their prime, america could add more regulations to promote competition as its a closed league. imagine an MLS cup with the viewer ship of the super bowl! don't worry Europe america is here to buy i mean save football.
I believe it's important to recognize Pep Guardiola is just simply better. When Sir Alex Ferguson did it in the 90's and early 2000's we all recognized that he was the greatest coach in the world by a mile. But now that Pep is doing it, they are saying it's because of money blah blah blah, but in reality Man City whether they got an influx of cash from UAE or not, still spend less than many teams in England or even Europe for that matter despite pulling the most income of any team in the world. Pep is simply the new Sir Alex Furgeson, the next best coach in the world by a mile.
In the Czech League, we have a title battle between Slavia Praha, Sparta Praha, and Viktoria Plzeň, but still, you can see other good teams like Slovácko, Hradec Králové or Bohemians 1905, so our league is totally not predictable or boring as Bundesliga or Ligue 1 for example.
If there's a genuine title race most seasons, why is it a problem if one team seems to prevail at a high frequency?
Benfica is not the best example because they didnt won the league title in the last 3 years before last season (Porto; Sporting; Porto). Having the most titles ever as nothing to do with current dominance. In fact, if Braga wins this year (which is unlikely but still far from impossible), we will have 4 different champions in the last 4 years which is something quite rare in european leagues nowadays.
Nothing but an apology for the status quo.
People call the Bundesliga Bayernliga but now the PL is Cityliga.
But the prem has much better quality teams overall compared to any other league
Great video
This is why the dutch league is so fun, different winner every year almost. Always a 3-horse race
I think the MLS has a better structure to make parody possible. Every team is own by the league and most if not all revenue goes to them. Which is then divided evenly to each club to fairly compete against one another, in terms of wages and spending. The only exception is the designated player rule, where each team can overspend for 2-3 players. They can do this by using the money of the owners
Safe to say right now Serie A is the one league where you cant predict a winner now that Juventus no longer have a chokehold on the league. 4 different Italian Champions in the last 4 years and this season might bring a new winner who knows. As an AC Milan fan this is a great thing for the league
i think arsenal is the closest to rival city this season. obviously there are multiple factors one can't predict before the season. liverpool, united, newcastle and even chelsea could be potential threats that is what differs the pl from the other top european leagues that there CAN be several competitors. plus city is in kinda a rebuild? not that they lost all players but important players left. but i think that the trophy will go to city again and again. it's not just about money, cause every pl club has money. it's the allure that city has over united, chelsea and tottenham. i think arsenal and liverpool are still very attractive for players and their concept is good. united with ten haag might get there soonish. chelsea and tottenham, newcastle also, seem quite lost transferwise
I think youre seeing a correlation between wages and success but they arent actually mutually exclusive, its not the more you pay players the better you play. a lot goes into wages like squad ages, yes bayern double dortmund but 90% of their players are in the prime of their career where 90% of Dortmunds are just beginning thiers. obviously you would back the club with the players in their prime to be making more money and playing better and the same goes for Ligue 1 with PSG and their competitors.
nice video, just be consitent and the subscribers will come.
The correlation not being necessarily the causation we might have another reason that can explain why the club with the most money are the one winning the most leagues...
Thats funny that people say that diversity of league champion is good, while if you look at Champions League results same years, you will see clearly that Monopoly seasons did bring more points and better results.
It's actually pretty tough for less rich and less reputable teams keep the performance.
Like recent champion of France - Lille, just sold its leaders.
Perez has a point football needs change it’s becoming repetitive and old compared to better structured leagues like the NBA
I can't take NBA seriously if a team could finish last three seasons in a row and still be allowed to play
@@davidp.7620 the nba has a new champion almost every season and in the pl the top 6 will never get relegated so its not different
@@strawhatsgear5th if they lose enough they will. Many historically strong teams from many serious leagues have tsken that path
@@davidp.7620 I can't take the EPL seriously if at the start of the season I already know Man City will win
Union Berlin is 15th in annual wages in the Bundesliga and finished in the top 4 last year. They likely won't win the league, but it shows that a good manager and teamwork can lead to success.
Also traditionally there the 3rd team from Berlin. So it like Tranmere winning the league while other Liverpool area teams look on
27:00 I was totally with you until you said "... and just watch the ball fly into the back of the net." But then I'm a Wolves fan.
In the last 10 years:
PSG won 8 out of 10 titles.
BAYERN won 10 out of 10 titles (!!!!!)
Juventus, Inter, Milan, Napoli 7-1-1-1
Barcelona, Atlético and Real won 6-2-2
City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Leicester 6-2-1-1
So out of the 5 top leagues, it's still the PL that has seen the highest number of different teams winning the title in the last 10 years. Also, it pains me to say as a United supporter, but Pep has a big hand in City dominating in the last 5 years. So obviously money plays a big part, but City is also winning on merit, because they are extremely well coached.
Whereas if you look at Bayern and PSG for example it doesn't even matter who the manager is. It doesn't even matter if they change managers mid season. They can sack football directors and coaches mid-season, have players punching each other in the dressing room or one player becoming de-facto president/manager/star-player in one person and holding their club to ransom. Barcelona is constantly floating on the edge of bankruptcy and had to sell future revenue to stay afloat. THEY ARE STILL WINNING THEIR LEAGUES.
City's dressing room has been in near-perfect order in the last 5 years and they have been the best team not just in England but probably the whole world too.
So I would argue that the PL is by far the most competitive and interesting league even with City domination at the moment.
As for the other leagues, each have their own unique reason for why it is the way it is. FFP should have leveled the playing field in each of them but since none of the rules get seriously enforced it basically means nothing.
The trend would tell you otherwise. Yeah, four different champions in the past ten years, but City have won 5 out of the last 6. I would hardly consider the Prem to be competitive when it comes to the title race
Serie A clearly is the most competitive top 5 league at the moment
@@Thomas-jf8lw I specifically addressed City in my comment. And how is Serie A "clearly" the most competitive league when Juve won it 7 times in the last 10 years? Also, the last Italian CL champion was Mourinho's Inter almost 15 years ago. Do you know the last Italian team that won the Europa League? No? It's because no Italian team has ever won it. Parma won the old UEFA cup back then, in 1999. Italian football was the best in the world in the 90s, but corruption and violent ultras ruined it (this is just my admittedly very limited knowledge of the reasons but any time I hear about a supporter getting stabbed or something it's Italy or maybe Turkey. England had it's fair shair with violent ultras too and it did ruin English football for a while).
@@neemnoa303 oh yeah I definitely agree with the violent ultras thing
But regarding your argument for Serie A not being the most competitve top 5 league because Juve won it 7 years in a row, I was more talking about the current trend
Four different winners in four years compared to two winners in the same timespan for the prem - I would say that's more competitive
Also, I was not talking about being competitive in European competitions because in that case, La Liga, Prem and also Bundesliga are clear (despite Italian clubs doing quite well last season)
But for the title race within the top five leagues, Serie A is the most unpredictible and therefore most competitive at the moment
@@Thomas-jf8lw most competitive != most unpredictable I would say.
3rd place of Ligue 1 just got knocked out of UCL by Panathinaikos, and 3rd place of Ligue 1 last year lost 4-0 to Trabzonspor, couldn't beat and finished behind Ferencváros in their group, teams I'm fairly sure half the people reading this haven't even heard about. In the last 5 years, 5 out of 8 French teams other than PSG finished bottom of their group, 3 out of those 5 didn't win a single game. PSG actually losing that league time to time (and only winning last year's with 2 matches to go) with the amount of money they have is ridiculous. If PSG played in the Prem, they wouldn't have won the league once. Man City under Pep with a similar amount of money won the same amount of titles, but other teams also have tons of money. In this timeframe, United broke the world record transfer fee, United, Liverpool (and now City) broke the world record fee for a defender, Liverpool and Chelsea broke the world record fee for a goalkeeper. Chelsea spent a billion since last summer, and they could have been relegated mathematically last year with 5 matches to go. United didn't even challenge for the title once in the last 10 years, didn't get to the UCL semis once (Villarreal, Ajax, Roma, or Lyon did) played in the Europa League iirc 5 times and only won it once, despite them also spending huge amounts of money.
My personal opinion. Pro/rel has quite a lot to do with fitting teams into a pretty rigid hierarchy. The teams that never go down will have the most financial stability and the greatest long term dominance, while yo-yo teams will annihilate the second tier but run into financial troubles when they try to Really compete with the big clubs.
So I wonder. What would it look like if there was a league in Europe that didn't have pro/rel? Not a super league- that simply turns the entire continent into their fiefdom of farmer's leagues. Not that. What I have in mind is something like this.
Let's take the Beneliga thing as an example. I know the proposal involves multiple tiers with pro/rel, but what if it didn't? What if Belgium and the Netherlands took four teams from each country and formed an 8 team league with no relegation? Everyone stays up, they share revenue equally or pretty close to it, and even the winnings from continental competitions are partially distributed to others in the league. A true league of equals, and over time it gradually expands by adding thoroughly vetted teams with ownership groups that meet certain benchmarks.
What would that be like? In the beginning, I suppose they'd have the minimum amount of European qualifying spots. That would change pretty quickly, though. Imagine a small league representing two small countries (maybe add a team from Luxembourg, if possible) where everyone is truly equal, truly competitive, and in time, more than half the league is getting qualified for various European tournaments. What would that do for these member teams?
How good could that type of league be? What would it do to the value of all the chosen clubs, if a potential buyer knew that relegation is impossible? I suspect that this sort of arrangement could lead to a shakeup in the Big 5 scenario, and it could prove to be the proper platform for high quality clubs from small European countries. Form a small, breakaway, multi-national league. Just not So multinational that you're going all over Europe. Keep it small, add new members very judiciously, and don't do anything with relegation. I would love to see that, and I think it would work beautifully.
Why not do the same thing in Scandanavia? Maybe bring Denmark into it as well. Why not the Baltic states? If we had three or four of these no-rel leagues, I think it would be incredibly beneficial to very good teams from small countries with small time leagues. Sure, there's no thrill of avoiding disaster as a result of getting relegated. But there's also no disaster of getting relegated, and if you limit the size of these leagues to 10 or 12 members-
And if all of them are legitimately good, with high quality academy systems and facilities-
And if all of them are on the same financial footing on a long term basis-
Then you Could have a situation where almost every team in the league has a Chance of qualifying for the Conference League, at least. In that scenario, there is no mid-table whatever. The mid-table Is Qualifying for one thing or another. And if you finish bottom, your finances are perfectly intact next season. Which is exactly the point- That Is How you achieve long term parity at a particular level.
Success breeds success. Over time, you will have a widening gap because the successful clubs will draw the best players & better sponsors. The only way to have 'exciting' leagues is if teams only draw from their own locality & only about developing their own players, & even then, nothing stops aspiring footballers from moving to these places. This happens in every aspect of life, in every sport. In life there will always be the elites because of successes of their ancestors.
It seems to be broken in the short term (~10 years) but the champions and domination changes if seen in a longer term. Man United dominated the English top division for years but they are no where close to champions today. Atletico Madrid became champion contenders and stay so in recent years but they were far from it. If you look at previous champions league winners, there are clubs that could be considered "small" today. Finding a way to win without the most money has lead to advance in Football from tactics, training to scouting which will lead to success and more financial advantage.
The lesson is we’re you are is were you’re meant to be
In Spain, Barcelona and Real Madrid have dominated that league for decades. There is a reason why every time that they meet its called El Classico
As long as the money keeps flowing things wont change.
The interesting thing about Italian clubs, in relation to Prem clubs, is that their standard of play did not improve.
The American model for sports leagues provides the most parity out of all that exist. If Americans loved football ⚽️ as much as Europeans do, no doubt they would have the richest and most powerful league in the world.
Yea but then again who would want to support a team who will just leave your city unless the city bends over and takes it
@@truechaosmulala3831 That doesn’t happen often though. Happens much less often than the same team winning the table every year in Europe.
@@DynamicUnreal yea but it also help them when they are the only good league of that sport like who else has that much money other than the nba in basketball or the mlb in baseball or especially American football
@@truechaosmulala3831 If America had loved football like they love those other sports you mentioned, they would have had the only good football league in the world. Financially and parity-wise, they have the best sports model. There are structures in place that prohibit winning based solely on money, and incentivizes craftiness on the part of management.
If the EPL implemented some of these competitive measures, I believe their growth would accelerate even faster as they would become even more compelling to follow and watch throughout the season.
Let’s be honest here, we know with 80 to 90% certainty which club will win each league in Europe this upcoming season.
@@DynamicUnreal the problem with your statement is that the style of usa sports with wage caps and drafts is that if you aren’t the best which is assuming the USA will be if any other league gets anywhere close the league dies because at the end of the day money talks if they can’t spend like the prem all the great players will go to the prem and than we get another mls
curious that u didnt mention no team has won liga portugal twice in a row since 16/17
If Roma could win Seria A that would be great
I'm showing my age here, but I can remember when an English team actually represented an English city , and had British players, Managers , and owners.
I see whatchu mean but they gonna call you a racist for that comment
@@Hydra2k12but the thing is it doesn't even necessarily have to be racial. Nottingham Forest can have a diverse ethnic/racial team that represents the city if majority of those players originate from Nottinghamshire/progressed through local youth systems. It's honestly just a matter of perspective
The moment foreigners were allowed to join teams football became pay to win. A team can win everything with a hypothetical squad of Ronaldo, Messi, Mbappe, Debruyne and Mourinho and next year a new rich guy pops up, doubles their wages and brings them all to another team, which ends up winning everything too. Who won actually though? Is it the team, the players/manager or the money? I say the latter 2 have way bigger claims to the spoils
@@iamfreedman6880 Exactly. It's the players that win. It wouldn't matter if they were all playing for Manchester City one season and won everything and then all suddenly switched to playing for Manchester United the next season and won everything again. It has nothing to do with the team they play for. That's why I don't understand supporters or fans of teams. What/who are they actually supporting? I don't support any team but I'm happy to be a spectator and to appreciate the most skilful, intelligent players performing at the peak of their powers in close matches against others of the same calibre.
Blame that on the decline of your own nation. No one else to blame when investors from other countries outbid anything any British business man can stump up.
English clubs have always been full of Scotish, Welsh, Irish and Northern Irish players.
Liverpool won the European Cup in 1984 with One English man in the starting 11, so not sure what team full of locals you were watching.
English football clubs sold their souls years ago and the big greedy teams will keep trying to break away and form a Euro super league.
Then you can really spit some feathers.
Cheers pal
29:52 spontanious outro...
The biggest problem with a European Super League is the fact that all the teams come from just THREE countries {England, Spain and Italy}.....OK, maybe you could get Bayern, Dortmund, PSG, Ajax, Benfica and Porto in too but you'd still be looking at a league with teams from just 7 of the 50+ European National Leagues.
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For an NFL style European League to work you'd need to have teams from all over Europe - You'd need Celtic, Olympiakos, Shakhtar, Sparta Prague, Steaua Bucharest, Galatasaray, Spartak Moscow etc. etc.!
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And you'd need to have an NFL style regional division system with Play-Offs and at least 32 teams not 12, 16 or even 20.
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The second biggest problem is how to do promotion/relegation - I'd suggest also making that regional with...
- The Champions of England, Scotland, France, Belgium, Netherlands, Wales, N.Ireland and Republic of Ireland having play-offs to replace the lowest ranked team in the Super League West
- The Champions of Spain, Portugal, Italy, Greece, Bulgaria, Albania, Macedonia and Bosnia having play-offs to replace the lowest ranked team in the Super League South
- The Champions of Switzerland, Germany, Austria, Czechia, Hungary, Croatia, Serbia and Slovenia having play-offs to replace the lowest ranked team in the Super League Central
- The Champions of Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and Poland having play-offs to replace the lowest ranked team in the Super League North
- The Champions of Slovakia, Kosovo, Ukraine, Montenegro, Belarus, Moldova, Georgia and Romania having play-offs to replace the lowest ranked team in the Super League East.
- The Champions of Turkey, Russia, Kazakhstan, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Israel and Cyprus having play-offs to replace the lowest ranked team in the Super League are these nations really in Europe?