How to Destroy Your Own Legacy: The Aroldis Chapman Debacle
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Update yo video on dude
As far as I'm concerned, when he didn't attend that team practice, that was him quitting. He literally didn't show up to work, and yet he still gets paid.
Has anybody ever considered his personality or performance change that happened after he took a line drive to the head and had to have surgery to put his skull back together?
CTE is real, and though not common in baseball…it makes sense these issues would start to arise after a massive head injury.
CTE is for repeated hits to the head, not a single one
@@Chris-xt8io you mean cte's worst cases are for repeated blows to the head. Depending on how bad the concussion is, a single one can affect you for LIFE. And I'm fairly certain getting hit in the head with a line drive is not a normal concussion
He was a monster up until he couldn’t use sticky stuff. So no that hit to the head was not the cause.
Technically not CTE but definitely a traumatic brain injury that could have led to severe personality changes. You don't take a line drive to the dome and crack it without some type of long term damage.
@@crawlmanjrable totally agree. The things we’re learning about TBI’s make this make a lot more sense
I went to Yankee stadium this year and saw Chapman pitch. He threw 7 straight balls and was boo'd by his own fans. Finally, in a 3-0 count he threw a strike and the stadium cheered as if the team won the world seris.
Yankees fans are the worst I swear. Nobody shits on the Yankees more than their fans, and if they're doing poorly nobody (not even Sox fans) hates the Yankees more than Yankees fans
They're so absurdly fickle and can be so hateful towards the players it's like they don't realise the players actually have feelings and emotions and that maybe they don't appreciate being heckled and booed if they ever do anything wrong or fail in any way
I hope Judge leaves the Yankees and continues having an amazing career and wins a WS so the fans that contributed to him leaving can watch him succeed elsewhere
Was it against the orioles
@@SuperNuclearUnicorn It's called being passionate. Yankees fans are promised the best so we expect the best. Nobody is immune to being booed, especially if you're playing poorly. If you can't handle it go play in a small market where they'll cheer for your mediocrity
To be fair, that's Yankee fans in almost any situation
@SuperNuclearUnicorn Yanks players want to be the highest paid players in earth, only to put up average numbers. That's what you get when you play like shit
As of today, 20 June, 2023 Aroldis is still ungodly rich and still pitching in the MLB.
Seeing Chapman not pitch the way he used to is difficult to look at as a fan. I remember seeing him at the 2015 all-star game.
Bruh, you're acting like Bauer wasn't the loudest voice calling out the use of sticky stuff. He was suspended because after the league refused to do anything about it, he openly used sticky stuff to win a Cy Young award. That, his criticism for the handling of the Astros cheating scandal, his desire for single year contracts, and hiring an agent that works for a fixed fee instead of a percentage of his earnings made him the enemy of the league and the union.
That or some meritless allegations are why he was suspended.
Both really
That's the problem with guys like Bauer: They can be unlikeable and still have a good point. He can be a douchebag but also wrongfully accused of something. His side of the story was tremendously under-reported.
He is one of my most favorite pitchers since I see his 106mph fastball. So sad he is still not playing or training or what.
The fact his personality changed after taking the hit to the head certainly changes my perspective. It's much more tragic than simply an athlete becoming too big for their own good.
So I guess Aroldis was supposed to throw 103 for the rest of his life? This isn’t MLB The Show 22. It’s just he’s older and has regressed. Now that doesn’t fix anything on his personal side but he had an All Star career no doubt.
Last giveaway was 44 DeGrom. 44 again this time. Maybe next time 44 Rizzo's Cubs... 😁😁
One can appreciate how good Mo was.
Chapman's success mainly came from the fact that very few players, on average, were throwing 101-102 ten years ago. Nowadays, most teams have one or two guys who can. So, if your only selling point is now something that most team's can acquire and, furthermore, make adjustments to then what else do you have to offer?
Great Video. People really need to remember that Chapman revolutionized the game. People were in absolute awe of what Chapman was doing when he first came in. Now everyone tries to be like him. Chapman changed the game that will never change his legacy is amazing in that regard
He just threw really hard. People aren’t trying to “be like him” they’re just trying to throw harder.
How hard is it to understand people. He “sucks” now because he can’t use sticky stuff. 🤦 There is no other reason. He just needs to work on his control now and probably drop his velo. And become at least an average reliever again.
Spidertak is one substance of a drug.
lol
I always thought it was the Tuve bomb that broke him, had no idea about the line drive to the head though. CTE is a dangerous thing
To me with Chapman a lot of it is about the intimidation. He had good secondary pitches as well but if I were an MLB hitter I couldn’t operate with the same in the box knowing 104 could be coming at my face at any pitch, that combined with his gigantic stature and menacing stare down was just deadly. But he got older. Locating the fireballs got more difficult for him because he couldn’t throw that same velocity with ease anymore. That intimidation fades away when he’s a lefty reliever with a 99 MPH FB and an okay slider. That’s just normal now, even abysmal. It might seem like 98 vs 100+ isn’t a huge difference but in reality it’s absolutely gigantic.
man "only" a 99mph fb lol
@@TheRealBruceLouis I know it's crazy to think about but 99 isn't what it used to be. There are 17 year olds that throw hundies now
All those 17 year olds have artificial body parts from having Tommy John surgery 5 times before they were 16. You should see what that does to your arm post baseball. Ask my cousin, who can’t even extend his right arm and needs surgery on it because he was pressured to throw high velocity even in little league. This whole pitchers have to hurl 98mph horseshit needs to die a knuckleball and eephus laden death.
Still got that ring in 23. Amazing
Watch the Angels drop a ton of money on him for the rest of his career. They need pitching, but they’ll get it in all the wrong places.
Below average pitcher? Chapman transcended triple digit velocity and still holds the record for fastest pitch thrown in a major league game. One hardly below average season does not counter what he's done the past ten seasons. Career 2.48 ERA. Get that shit outta here
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*shares the record for the fastest pitch with Jordan Hicks
Baseball, like just about any other sport, is very much "Yeah, but what have you done for me lately?" That's just how it's going to be. So he had a 105 mph pitch, so what? Does he have that NOW? Holding onto guys because he used to be great and has fantastic career numbers is a recipe for team mediocrity (something the team I follow are experts at).
Chapman is at that age when most players see a real decline in some aspect of their play. He's never going to pitch like he was 30 again. So what does he do? He never really had the location and deception, what he had was speed. Speed is pretty overrated among fans, but Chapman's speed was extreme enough that it gave him quite the edge. Well that speed is declining, and if he loses 5mph off his fastball, that puts him on par with plenty of pitchers who are effective (or just somewhat effective) and don't cost nearly that much. As a player, your value is usually going to be some ratio of performance vs cost. If the performance will be just okay but the cost is high, it's hard to justify.
You do understand that throwing hard doesn't necessarily mean you're a good pitcher though right? He could throw 200mph but if he isn't hitting the zone consistently it doesn't matter
I don't disagree with your point, but saying "he holds the record for fastest pitch" doesn't really prove anything beyond "he can throw really hard"
To me Chapman deserves a spot in the Baseball ⚾ HOF as a relief pitcher. In his prime his fastball reached 105 mph. Not many pitchers can throw that kind of heat.
You know how many relief pitchers are in the HOF? 8. That's it. Throwing 105 isn't a reason to be there. If his stats dont measure up then he won't ever even be considered. We're talking about a group that includes Dennis Eckersley, Mariano Rivera, Goose Gossage, Lee Smith, Trevor Hoffman, Rick Sutter, and 2 older generation players I think... The greatest relief pitchers ever.
@@J.C... I wouldn't be against Chapman being inducted, but I also don't think he quite stacks up to any of those guys
I feel like for a reliever to make it they either need absurdly good numbers, or really good numbers and a bunch of awards and rings
Chapman doesn't quite have the numbers or the accolades I don't think, and his reputation as a choker won't help either
If he gets in then so should guys like Quiz and Sparky.
L take
It’s a good thing you don’t run the hall of fame
Yes
The only thing I’ll say is this. Even though he’s old. The picture didn’t have to age him by 5 years bro. He doesn’t have lines and wrinkles in his face. The picture doesn’t have to age him like that. He is old but not in real life.
It was an art style…
Well the Texas Rangers still seem to value him
Did uhhhhhh... anybody think his major change in behavior might have anything to do with get bashed in the head with a comebacker?
It’s called regression lol… you think he’s supposed to put up all star numbers at 34? Most players are retired at that age! A 34 year old washed star is not uncommon.. this is like saying Miguel Cabrera had a fall from grace. It’s just age!
Cabrera did have a fall from grace. He fell off a cliff out of nowhere
@@jaimelannister1797 Not badly, he was still an all-star this year. Which means he's doing something right.
@@meisleim41 he wasn’t a normal all star. He was like Pujols in that he was specially selected by Manfred as a legacy player. Cabrera since 2017 has been worth -2.1 WAR. Massive decline, considering in 2016 alone he was worth 5.1 WAR
Funny how he got old right when MLB did their crack down lol. 34 isn’t that old for relievers. Chris Martin is 39 and just signed a two year deal bc he doesn’t walk people. Age would effect Velo more and not control. Most pitchers who age don’t lose control over their stuff.
@@sococomfort22s34 Chris Martin is 36
Ever since he started throwing that splitter as a third pitch he's had problems. I hope he goes back to his bread and butter with his fastball and slider. Sucks to fall into a slump in baseball. It's one sport where the harder you try to improve from a slump the worse it gets. He's always been a 2 pitch repertoire reliever. Stop fuckin' around with the splitter and get his groove back with his 2 main pitches.
He seems to be doing a lot better this season with the royals
Yeah sick video dude
Question. Wasn't chapman an all star this year?
No? I don’t think?
@@PrimarySweeper13 my bad it was 2021
The lack of Brosseau's homerun in this video is sad.
I’m a lifelong Yankees fan. I used to love seeing him pitch, and at one point I thought he might be able to truly replace Mariano Rivera (let’s be honest, the Yankees have had a closer problem since he retired). When he lost it, he totally lost it. All semblance of control on his pitches was gone. Then there was that goofy smile after he gave up that home run against the Astros in the 2017 ALCS. I never figured out why he had that goofy smile. It’s almost like he lost control of his pitches because he lost the desire to perform. He no longer cared if the Yankees won or not, he was paid under contract. Maybe he thought the speed of his pitches would earn him an extension even if he was practically nailing the visiting dugout with them. When he refused to come to that mandatory practice, the Yankees didn’t have to cut him from the roster, he had quit the team.
That goofy smile was because he knew Houston cheated, he heard the trash can, and knew they had his signs. He was legitimately fuming mad.
@@nickhughes8179Good, the Yankees deserve it. Any cheating is good if it fucks the Yankees.
I don’t think he was smiling, he was probably just trying to control his emotions
I need that jersey
What on earth did you mean by the “not the actions of an innocent man” comment? Really stood out as a strange comment that seems inaccurate or trashing his character wrongly? What did you possibly mean?
Fired his gun? Guilty af
chapmans body makeup is like 84% legs
He’s 34 years old
Who’s here after he went all the way w/ the rangers in 2023?
Craig Kimbrell is also the victim of foreign substance
You make great content, my man. But it'd be near perfect if worked on slowing down your speech patterns.
This video aged poorly, and not even that long afterwards lol. He’s back to 103 104 once he started sitting in that chair more. Also he’s old so that’s just not fair to say he fell off
That fool looks like Chris Rock
Too many ads bruh
As a Cubs fan I knew that if he came in in the 8th the game was already blown
He won a World Series and was a crucial part of the championship, arguably one of the biggest reasons for the post season success
This didn’t age wrll
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Thank you MLB! Very cool! We Americans are very happy with the unilateral decision to bring illegal immigrants and their 45 family members to the US. Sportsball rules!
Age + Alcohol + smoking + poor diet etc. He wasn’t committed to the sport. His raw talent was incredible
@@isah6189 I'm contacting the cyber police,. You will be charged with plagiarism.
@@billwhitacre703 quag
There are 7 million things that need to be addressed around this issue before we get to Cuban defectors and the MLB. How about you start with those and then later maybe you can throw a childlike fit about this
@@Fryed_Bryce more like 6 million, amirite!
You really are pushing conclusions :
Ankle tattoo is a private matter, although it's unfortunate it went wrong.
Missing workout is unprofessionnal and a valid reason to shy away from a player.
Firing gunshot in your garage to relieve stress because you don't want to hurt your girlfriend or child is... irresponsible? Like some goes to brawl, bowl or drink out of their ways, some actually hit those close to them, but doing harm to no one makes you guilty? Sure guilty of noise after hours but seems a respectable choice to me.
So his wife did a BS metoo allegation and he was an idiot for shooting a long distance hole puncher into the ground out of frustration. Yes, believe all vvahmen…NOT! Men, if this happens to you, don’t go firing your equipment into the ground, or anywhere for that matter. Just leave, and better yet, don’t impregnate / wife up these train wrecks and DO NOT react emotionally. Just leave, because all it takes is for a female to accuse you of something and your life is done!
Don’t feel bad for him. He shot his gun IN HOUSE after arguing with his gf. I what she may have hit her as well. Either way, he scarred her because he acted violently
He is getting old
Guy choked his girlfriend and every other game he pitched for the Yankees. Good riddance.
Yea, the wife beater got the game 7 win for the Cubs in the World Series but he damn near blew it too. With his character, I was glad to see him go
You forgot tp show altuve owning him. And breaking him
Fires gun in house recklessly endangering his family. Yankee hero.