The 2005 Yankees Experiment Nearly Broke Baseball
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The 2022 Phillies conducted an experiment to see if they could win a world series at the detriment of their defense. That experiment nearly worked, but they were far from the first team to try. Today we will be talking about a more extreme version of the 2022 Phillies: the 2005 Yankees.
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I love how Mo casually had a 308 era+
Those Yankees Red Sox games during this period were INSANE ! Long , tense , full of storylines . I miss the rivalry being like that
I'm a die hard orioles fan and my best friend is a die hard Yankee fan. His joke is... "how do you know it's April? The orioles are in 1st place. How do you know it's September? The Yankees are in 1st place."
How do you know it’s October?
The Astros are popping champagne in the clubhouse of Yankee stadium
@@astrominister of course the Astros fan inserts themselves lol. Won your first legitimate title and y’all act like houston won 27 rings. The most classless fanbase in baseball
@@astrominister If the Astros were in the AL East, they'd be a .500 team. If you were in NYC you'd be bent over a fire hydrant, taking 'base hits up your alley ' all day. Loser. LooHOOhooHOOhooHOOSER!
@@maxdubs2241 At least they didn't have to buy entire rosters ...
@Max Dubs22 how many steroid users have the Yankees had again?
I remember this team. Always hitting homers and dropping the ball.
Not a great defensive team by any stretch but they were pretty sure handed. Their .984 fielding % was above the league average and they were second in the league in hits and OBP, which showed their offense was pretty rounded. Like the numbers suggest, their defenders had limited range which certainly contributed to their losses but their pitching during the ALDS was not good. The defense allowed one unearned run in those five games, hardly a shitshow.
This Yankees team actually started the season 11-19
They kinda picked it back up, but by August 10th fell to 60-52 and questions on if they could make the postseason were a real concern.
They then surged to a 35-15 finish over their last 50 but of course got bounced by Anaheim
Similar how the Yankees were in 2022 they hit homers in the first half but drop the ball
@Bread And Circuses I can't argue with that. Still, a pitching staff that won 95 games, led the league in shutouts and featured three HOFers, can't be entirely discounted.
Until 2009, when they won the World Series.
I miss these days. Giambi is my all time favorite player. Got to see him hit a homer in person during his last season in pinstripes and the last season in the House that Ruth Built in 2008. Moments like that make you a baseball fan for life.
A hardcore steroid user is your favorite. Using that name and Ruth's in the same statement is hilarious.
I felt the same with A-Rod when I was a kid. I got to see the Yanks vs Angels at the old Yankees Stadium, on “Old-Timers Day”. During the game, A-Rod tanked one to left center and I was ecstatic. I was a kid in the nosebleeds, got a beer spilled on me and everything, but I’ll never forget that homer.
Lol when you compare Giambi to Ruth that’s just sad
@@Sean-mi4dh never compared him to Ruth, it’s just a nickname for old Yankee Stadium dude lol
Ok ok sorry
I had this idea on my original list before I made my first video, you def executed it better than I would’ve then 😂
Found your channel with that last video you made. You do good work man, keep it up
I guess I owe you a video idea
@@SportStorm23 You've done enough for me already
No you didn’t.
@@OnlyFacts662 Shut up, dork
There seems to be a lot of parallel between a lot of what Steinbrenner did and what Cohen is doing now lol.
The difference with the Mets being that they are a better defensive team. Nothing worse than committing a critical defensive error when the season is on the line
@@henrycalde1991 you forgot the lack of firepower. Steinbrenners Yankees had all stars in 1-9 just look at that 05 lineup Jesus.
I feel like those 2005-2008 Yanks have the same story. The team really was missing pieces every season. Somebody seemed to come up short.
They were more a collection of talent as opposed to a "team"
@@Yoy28
Well worded. I mean, none of the teams were bad. Even the 2008 Yankees missing the playoffs was more circumstantial. Each of those teams was loaded with All Stars. Pitching was probably the biggest issue. Nobody was an anchor and Moose just was a step below what they needed.
Thats baseball- every year, all 29 other teams will have pieces that prevent them from going forward- and even the best one will probably have a hard time fixing their own in some way. The yankees' circumstances since the beginning of the century have had a ton of teams with big problems.
@@antonioreconquistador
It's why you gotta love 2009. They went out and plugged the holes. Everybody had moments. No major injuries and by the time the playoffs rolled around, everyone was healthy and everyone showed up.
Oh and the 2013 Red Sox. That was a complete team. Amazing offense. Solid starters. Excellent closer. All Stars galore. What a great team.
@@TheLockdownKidNYC Yes they were certainly powerful teams that feasted on lesser competition in the regular season. However in the playoffs, they didn't have that championship DNA that the late 90's teams had. The late 90's dynasty learned how to win early on and carried that through the rest of the decade. The mid 2000s teams didnt have the guts and grit to win big games, simply put because a lot of those guys didn't know how to win in October.
Bernie deserves being mentioned with the core 4. He was honestly the best player of the bunch for a lot of those 90s chips
Was he home grown though? I think thats the reason those 4 are singles out. Bernie was def one of their best players though. BorderliNE hOF prolly
@@paulg6274 Why else do you think people felt Bernie should be mentioned alongside "Core 4"? Asking if he was home grown is no different than asking if Jeter was as such.
@@iamhungey12345 right, its not a disqualifier but its just something that linked these 4 players specifically. Bernie career WAR is close to HOF credentials if i recall correctly
@@paulg6274 Yeah the guy's homegrown, it's bs to think that's what makes the "Core 4" what they are while excluding Bernie. Unfortunately there are retards who thinks core 4 have to be drafted when it wasn't the case as Mo was an amateur free agent.
Only real difference was that the "Core 4" where there for the 2009 title which is where it all came from. Bernie was part of the rebuilding era that helped laid the groundwork that paved way for guys like Jeter, Mo, Pettitte and Posada. Not to mention Posada was barely more than a cup of coffee player in 1996 which is why there are people who weren't sure if Posada got one for that season.
@@iamhungey12345 ya im not using that as a qualifier, just thought maybe that was the reason. Bernie had a better career than Petitte or Posada imo.
I was the bullpen catcher for the Newark Bears in '09 maybe '08. Keith Faulk was the closer. He said after that game 7 in 2004, almost every player was in tears. Every time he told the story the whole locker room was dead quiet.
Bum ass Foulke. Glad he was a scrub in 05
That's Aaron "10-0" Small, to you
Loved these teams so much. Grew up with them
Good video, a trooper for going through all this research. Baseball in the 2000’s was a special time. Glad this era got me into the game. Might have to check out some more videos.
great vid from SportStorm, man is cranking out high-quality content!
Great video, I remember these declining years after those great late 90s teams so well. It also shows, that for most of the 21st century, the Yankees have consistently played poor defense in clutch situations in the post-season. 2009 being the outlier, of course, at least as far as RESULTS go.
After Andy left in 2003 (and Clemons) the Yankees were short staffed with Mussina taking the ace role before Wang took it over and both were great 2-3 pitchers but the Yankees, despite Andy coming back (three years older and approaching the end) the Yankees didn't gain a true ace again until CC Sabathia in 2009. Burnett helped as well, famously forming that three man rotation with Andy for the championship. Pettitte and Cone were the foundation for the Dynasty.
Jaret Wright was also the reason Pedro Martinez didn't become an Indian. Before the 98 season, Cleveland and Montreal were in talks to do a trade of Pedro for Wright and Bartolo Colon. But Cleveland got cold feet after Wright had an excellent 97 postseason (including a strong game 7 start on the world series).
This brings back childhood memories!
the 04' Red Sox didn't actually win a championship with a defense that bad, most of those numbers get accumulated from the first half of the season.. they knew they couldn't win a title with that kind of defense and traded Nomar at the trade deadline and acquired three gold glove level defenders at 1st base, SS, and OF. That was the thing that turned their season around.
That team was so up and down it's like having a mood swing in a rollercoaster.
I did enjoy th vid yep you brought a lot to light in this
Clemons leaving for Houston in 2004 didn't kill the Yankees but big game Andy Pettitte following him wrought havoc on the rotation. From 1996 on during the dynasty years Andy and David Cone were the backbone and foundation of the staff. Guys like Jimmy Key, David Wells and finally the Rocket added to the core and Orlando "El Duque" Hernandez sealed the deal for dynasty. With Andy the Bombers don't run out of starters in that 2004 ALCS and the rotation doesn't cost them for three straight seasons.
Plus Pettitte was generally the Yankees' best pitcher against the Red Sox, the question is whether or not he would have avoided that elbow injury in 2004 had he stayed with the team. If so then he would have likely been a factor in 2004 ALCS but who knows? Especially with the blown scoring opportunities in the extras which didn't help.
Both of them leaving really hurt the Yankees. They went from a really good rotation to Mussina and mostly shit. Pettites "big game" reputation is horseshit by the way. He was a very good pitcher who was very good in the playoffs. His regular season and playoff numbers are almost identical (it's actually crazy how similar they are.) It's not like he was Curt Schilling in the playoffs.
Those mid 00s Yankees used to be so stacked, veteran potential HOF hitters all across the lineup and sometimes the bench too.
@Bread And Circuses yeah fielding and pitching tend to matter more for actual championships. The bombers just occasionally win the regular season (and usually not even that if the fielding and pitching fail too much)
@Bread And Circuses it wasn't tbh they had Hof pitchers that just had career bad years for one reason or another...randy Johnson, Kevin brown, javy Vasquez was an ASG starter etc
I think the lesson to be learned is that the offense over the course of the year proved to be much more important than defense. Losing a 5 game series isn't indicative of an experiment gone totally wrong. New age stats wildly overrate defense, especially now when there are so many less balls in play. As the Phillies proved this year, defense is given too much weight in comparison to hitting and pitching.
I also think there is a far greater correlation with better hitting teams being able to overcome their defensive inefficiencies than a great defensive team being able to overcome its offensive inefficiencies.
There is. The 2015 Royals are the only team that pretty much won a World Series entirely because of Defense and Baserunning. The team was otherwise average at best on both Pitching and Hitting.
But I also think that offense could have carried the Yankees even back in 2005 if they'd had a remotely adequate pitching staff. Like, after he joined the team halfway through the season Shawn Chacon was their best pitcher. Shawn. Chacon.
The man who had never had an ERA+ above 108 before that and never again had an ERA+ above 111 afterwards. Shawn Chacon across his career was a league average pitcher that somehow became an ace for 3 months in 2005. Before he came around the team was relying on 3 league average pitchers to top their rotation.
Agreed. The Yankees "problem" that year wasn't the defense. It's the fact that George wouldn't tolerate any rebuilding phase .and their starting pitching was depleted after Clemens and Pettitte went to Houston and Pavano was constantly injured. The 2004 starting pitching wasn't much better either.
But the formula of mediocre pitching, below average defense and scoring 850 to 900 runs a year wasn't a bad formula. They averaged about 96 wins btw 2004 - 2007.
Great video.
This was the year I stopped watching baseball. I didn’t get back in until 2019 when the Nationals took a wild card game down 1-3 in the 8th with 2 outs all the way to a championship.
I hadn't noticed.
Frankly, who GivesAShit?
What a beautiful run it was. Sadly we won’t get back for a long time 😢
Im a huge Red Sox fan and growin up I always remembered the Yankees bringing up these random minor league pitchers because their staff was terrible. Yankees also had one of the worst farm leagues in all the bigs becaue they just threw most their money to free agents instead of their youth. The fact that between 2005-2008 they only missed the playoffs once and won the DIvision twice goes to show how great this offense was. Even Joe Torre has admitted that he was shocked that the Yankees made the playoffs in 2007 because they got off to a terrible start and hardly made any significant move throughout the season.
Great Video 👍
u didnt even watch it yet
@Majestical Chicken I didn't have too I already know it's a banger video
I think I subconsciously repressed the memory of Bubba and Sheff crashing into one another until this moment. Those 2005-2008 early playoff exits were incredibly frustrating, but I think that one takes the cake as the MOST infuriating of them all. Truly emblematic of that era.
Yankees got the YES Network starting in the 2002 season, so Steinbreiner wanted to sign stars, trade for stars, have all the press, all the ratings. And then even more once they got the new stadium starting in 2009
From 2002-2009, Yankees spending habits were sensational to say the least
How did the 2005 Yankees nearly break baseball? The video didn't explore that, only that they had a high payroll and poor pitching and defence.
And it conveniently IGNORES the 2005 NL Astros where Bagwell,Berkman and Biggio were still on the roster.
This is just a Filler video where the Uploader(An Obvious WhiteSox fanboy who Despises the Astros) can just disregard them.
Great video
thank you!
People always forget Bernie Williams when speaking about these teams. Just because he was called up a few years early does not make him different from the core four.
The thumbnail is crazy wild
Just like most other Yankees teams post-2001, they padded their stats against bad pitching during the regular season and then the bats went cold against playoff-caliber pitchers. The late 90s dynasty scored big but was also super clutch.
Could you do a video on the 2021 Giants? I feel like their story should be told more often
I imagine I'll make a video on them one day
They were a fluke team that had everything line up perfectly for them until getting bounced by their rivals in the playoffs. There, done, no video needed
@@KneeDeep2231 they were more then a “fluke” team. You don’t win 107 games by just getting lucky, and the team that beat them and knocked them out of the playoffs had to fight and claw to knock them out, and ended up losing the next series because of how many pitchers they used against the giants.
More often?? IT JUST HAPPENED lmao
Haven't the Yankees been breaking it since 1996? Joking aside, thanks for the vid SportStorm!
The 2005 Yankees payroll equates to about $240 million in todays dollars, which is no where near first anymore.🙄
Yea but nobody payed that much money back then they were the first team to really spend that much
You should make a video on the dbacks going from 69-93 in 2016, to 93-69 in 2017, only to have their playoff hopes ruined by zack greinke failing to go deep in the wild card game, forcing us to burn Robbie ray, and mess up our rotation against the dodgers next series. Specific I know lol
Oh my haven’t seen/heard Tony Womacks name in a while! Also totally forgot the Yanks picked up Randy Johnson 😂
That thumbnail tho 😮
A division leader is NOT a failed roster construction. By any other teams standard they were successful. Only the Yankees are champs or bust but if you aren’t a fan you don’t get to say that because your team would be ecstatic with the Yankees results.
Where the Hell is the video on the ‘05 Astros? I’m not even an Astros fan, but this channel’s utter bias against the club is disingenuous.
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12:55 Let's just marvel at Mariano's insane 308 ERA+
It’s nice to see the Yankees struggle to make it to a WS. Now they overpaid for a injury prone Judge and Rodon. I’m calling a 82-80 season for them if we get 2018-2021 Judge and Rodon.
12:35 I'm sure this won't be a running gag for the next few years.
IN THOSE YEAR ANGELS HAD A GREAT
TEAM , AND THE ANGEL GOT TO BEAT
THE YANKEES OFTEN
Very true. The angels were 67-58 vs Torres Yankees teams and knocked them out of the playoffs twice. 2005 and 2002. They were the only team to have a winning record vs the Yankees during that period as well.
Very true
@@alwillk I felt a good number of times the Yankees kind of beat themselves.
@Bread And Circuses There had been games where the Yankees blew opportunities, I mean the 1998 Yankees had no business struggling against the Angels that season. The Angels felt like the Blue Jays at times during those years.
Interestingly I just ran a quick regression - there’s no discernible correlation between DRS and being series champion to a 95% CI. Being a cincinnati native, I can speak to this anecdotally given 2011 the reds were studs with the glove leading the mlb in DRS but dog shit still 4 fans under 500 trailing a brewers team 30 games in the green. Meanwhile the eventual champions Cards had a negative DRS
Um, how exactly did this “experiment” nearly break Baseball?
All it did was remind everyone that the World Series cannot be bought so easily, as the highest payroll in the game is no guarantee of success.
The Astros of the last few years are very similar to the late 90s Yankees era, in terms of homegrown talent & success. If the Yankees decided to change it up & go the Gene Michael route again, it would easily be another dynasty, but they're not willing, the fans & the media would prevent it from happening.
fr that's why im not watching this L of a roster makeup anymore
Not really only 5 players were homegrown. Jeter, posada, pettite, Williams and rivera. Martinez was a mariner, knoblauch a twin, Brosius an athletic, o Neil a red. Gooden and cone were Mets. Wells and Clemens were blue jays.
Well said
@@alwillk There was Mendoza though he wasn't a star.
The big difference is Cashman is loathe to even give a rookie an actual shot.
They didn't win in those mid 2000s years but damn they were fun to watch
It's wild how bad defensively those Yankees teams were. IIRC the pitching staffs weren't full of high strikeout pitchers that couldn't mitigate against the bad defense, Aaron Small and Chien Ming Wang aside...
While Gene Michael gets a lot of credit for the dynasty Yankees, Harding Petersen's role is overlooked. With the exception of Jeter, selected while Michaels was in charge, the rest of the Core Four, and Bernie Williams was already in the system.
Plus one has to admit the Tony Womack signing that GM recommended wasn't exactly among his better moment.
@@iamhungey12345 I couldn't see a way the Womack, Pavano, and Wright signings could work out.
@@ra0929 You know these signings are busts when Wright came out the best of the three.
Ok. Well as a lifelong braves fan… braves had incredible pitching
That's what was so special about that 2004 Red Sox World Series team they were the lovable idiots who weren't supposed to win the World Series an finally broke the Curse of the Great Bambino aka Babe Ruth!
gene michaels also brought in joe torre and scouted bernie williams
I've always felt the 2000s were arguably the most criminally underrated decade in Yankees history. During that decade(2000-2009), the Yankees had 10 consecutive winning seasons in which they averaged over 96 wins. Those years include four 100+ win campaigns, eight divisional titles and nine postseason appearances. The biggest knock on those clubs seems to be their performance in the October, but this too seems unfair. They were able to win four pennants and two World Series titles in the 2000s(That's more then some franchises team histories). This includes winning 45 postseason games and 11 postseason series. It should be pointed out that they were never swept and won at least one postseason game every year they made the postseason during that time. Truthfully, these numbers compare very favorably with the great Reds teams of the 70s, the Braves of the 90s and the Astros of the 2010s. Lastly, with regards to this video's point about defensive zone ratings, it should be pointed out that they never fielded a good defensive team based on sabremetrics(One of their better ones was 2008, the only year they missed the postseason) in the 2000s. This kind of takes the air out UZR, DZR and all the other defensive analytics mentioned by Sportstorm.
@Bread And Circuses Can't say I agree. The Yankees came withing two outs of winning the World Series in 2001 and one out of winning the AL Pennant in 2004. Both of these instances occurred with my favorite player, who happens to be the greatest reliever of all time, on the mound. There might not be a better player in the clutch in the history of the game. They also came withing two wins of taking the 2003 World Series after winning an incredible game 7 in the ALCS. It's incredibly difficult to even be in those positions with mediocre starting pitching and non clutch hitting. In short, they won more postseason games and postseason series than any other team in the majors during that time. I agree that their starting pitching wasn't always great, and they didn't always get the big hit, but when you win more than everybody else, you're doing more things right than wrong.
Agreed. People were still under the foolish idea that you could buy championships, so the Yankees never got credit for their 8 division titles.
But you can't buy your way through 3 short series against teams of a similar record in October. But even so including 2000...they won 2 titles, 4 AL Pennants, and 5 LDS's. They lost 4 LDS, one bc a pack of bugs attacked their dominant set up man.
@Jeff The Yankees were never one out away from winning the 2004 LCS. The Sox tied Game 4 with 0 outs in the 9th after the stolen base.
But the biggest play and probably one of the most unlucky plays in baseball history was Clark's ground rule double in the top of the 9th in Game 5.....bc there was no way on God's green earth that Mo would blow a 2nd save that night. After that the pitching match ups were completely in the Sox favor.
I still say if Pettitte wasn't on sabbatical in Houston during that year, they win that series.
@@dukedematteo1995 I misspoke when I said one out. I meant to type one inning , but that's still incredibly close. As you point out, there were a few other instances that could have gone the other way ,but like Sterling says. "That's baseball!" 😄 I think what bothers me the most is that the Red Sox are viewed as the clutch team of the decade despite the fact that they routinely finished behind the Yanks in the standings(8 times) and lost a heartbreaking ALCS of their own in 2003(to the Yankees no less). People are quick to remind you that the Sox won the most WS titles in the 2000s. What they don't seem to remember is that they shared that distinction with the Yankees who won two of their own.
@@dukedematteo1995 What can be said in hindsight, Torre should have started Mo at the 8th in Game 5.
It makes me wonder, would it have been better if Jeter played third and A-Rod at short? Jeter had very poor range for a shortstop, and Rodriguez seemed to field better before moving to third.
It's possible, but the trade never would've been made under those circumstances.
If ARod and others hit better in those postseasons, then those Yankees teams might appear in a different light.
of course they would have been but jeter's fragile ego couldn't handle that.
What did in the Yankees from 04-the present, pitching. They never have enough pitching anymore.
@Bread And Circuses And Boone.
I feel like the 06 Yankees were a better choice for this subject video…..A Rod batting 8th in the playoffs
The Yankees team had a mental breakdown the following year cus the red Sox destroyed the mental after being up 0-3!
Giambi's second half was absolutely insane.
@Bread And Circuses hit 28 HRs after June.
I remember the crap he took for much of the first half, moreso when Tino caught fire.
@iamhungey12345 it was honestly one of the most heroic things I've seen....and he doesn't get much credit for it.
Everyone thought he was done w/o PEDs. Everyone was so down on him that Torre even asked the 34 year old former MVP to go to the minors....the minors. He was the only person who had faith in his abilities.....he declined the minors claimed he was coming around, and was right there....Everyone rolled their eyes and thought he was delusional.
....then he proceded to absolutely explode in July, August and September and ended the year as the best hitter in the League outside of Manny Ortiz and ARod. No one saw that coming except Giambi himself. He proved to the world he could be Jason Giambi again w/o steroids and won Comeback Player of the Year and hit .400 something in the LDS. He showed ppl who he was...An extremely dangerous slugger, an on base machine and an incredibly clutch HR hitter. (He's up there with Ortiz in game winning/tying and extra inning HRs for his career.
Despite all this, some idiot fans say his signing was a bust
As a Yankee fan it frustrated me how they went from winning with building from their farm system and adding wise additions to changing approach by trying to win by out spending other teams.
If the actual wild card format was implemented in 2005 Yankees and redsox will both enter the playoffs but advanced to the wild card
that thumbnail picture is disrespectful lmfaooooo
George Steinbrenner proving that he shouldn’t be in control once again.
Defense is absolutely killing the Phillies right now.. they're pretty absent minded on the base paths too. They're a smarter team than they're showing, and I feel like that focus will come through if they make the playoffs, but that's a HUGE if.
I remember 2005 well, the White Sox broke their curse to sweep the World Series a year after Boston broke their own Championship curse.
Also I love the hot take that your defense is atrocious so pitchers have no faith in the people behind them so any failure must be the pitchers fault. Not that the defense can’t make any play outside of a routine play 😂
Giambi started 78 games at 1B...
Quietly one of the biggest mistakes the Yankees made in this era was trading Robin Ventura in mid-2003.
The 2006 Yankees experiment was even crazier, but they fell to the underdog Detroit Tigers after getting outpitched.
With Kenny Rogers pitching out of his mind for one of those games. I bring his name up, because he was supposed to be the "gimme" of that series due to his postseason reputation
@@ra0929 He also cheated
Basically that yankees team did what the 2004 lakers team dis thinking all these old veteran legends we're gonna come in to one of the most winning franchises in cash in for a championship last minute
04 Red Sox were dead in the water until they traded Nomar Garciaparra for Orlando Cabrera n Dougie mientkiewicz to sure up the defense. They didn’t make the WS with a bad Drating
It's not like anybody's going to feel bad for that yankees team they just came off winning so many World Series they were bound to have some failure eventually
thumbnail moment
Lmao had to go back and look at it. I didn’t see it at first
Wang was our best pitcher for yearssss......
N thats fucking sad
So when are you making an Astros video
Idk about an Astros video but I may make a Jeremy Pena video soon
He’s doesn’t like the Astros. At All.
@@plawson8577 I’m pretty sure all the big baseball video essay people have an agreement to never make a video on them.
That's so tragic one huge mistake killed their meme
2:53 Me thinking about this in 2023😪
even with zero defense to speak of i feel this team could have fallen ass backwards into a WS appearance if the pitching staff wasn't old as dirt
Sounds like their 2000 season.
Their starting pitching sucked besides Mussina after Clemens and pettite left in 2003.
It might have been a good idea for the Yankees to take the greatest defensive shortstop in history of the game and actually play him at the shortstop, instead of keeping one of the worst shortstops in the history of the game at the position.
In a couple years, you can Find+Replace 2005 Yankees for 2023 Cardinals
The card 2011 are clearly the outlier here I don’t think they played bad defense in 2011 better then in 2013 and Phillies 22 and Yankees 09
Hal is not George's biological son
Ironically, would have massively improved the defense to move ARod to short instead of Jeter and just have Jeter hit since his glove was trash
Yea but Jeter's ego wouldn't let him handle that move. It's hilarious people think Jeter was some great team guy when he was a selfish fuck.
Shawn Chacon and Aaron Small saved that season
Yankees should have swept the Angels. They 100% gave that series away.
Especially Game 2 and 5.
I could be wrong, but didn’t moneyball teach us 20 years ago that defense was next to meaningless?
The moment they moved A-Rod to 3B to make Jeter happy, they were doomed.
And somehow Jeter is viewed as some selfless amazing teammate. It's mind boggling. When he was 40 he was still gimping around at SS hitting 1st or 2nd to the detriement of the team. The fact he wouldn't slide over for Arod was a joke.
@@tomf5823 You forgot the giftbags for his one-nighters and the "Derek Cheater" incident.
I was eating at The Stage Deli in Manhattan the night he broke his ankle in October 2012. The overwhelming attitude among my fellow diners was that it was no big deal.
@@steverodriguez8071 way better
The current Yankees are the opposite - great D and pitching but no quality bats outside of Judge, and it's not gonna get better.. there's no Robinson Cano coming, as neither Volpe or Peraza are even close to Cano offensively.
The Yankees needs a leadoff guy, it doesn't have to be Cano. Here's hoping Peraza pans out but the guy needs to be given a shot.
Baseball has been broken for a while now
Yup. Hate the Yankees all you want, their 90s teams were home grown and blue collar. The players on those teams are fan favorites to this day, and what every Yankees fan would rather see the ball club look like. If you hate the Yankees for all of their money, you’re just telling on yourself
@Bread And Circuses like the Mets? Or the dodgers? Red Sox?
This isn’t about the Dotcom Era Dynasty. 2005 wasn’t the 90s.
The highest paid team ever is struggling early? that’s alright just call up Robinson cano 😂 team was loaded
So you're basically saying the team was a failure bc they lost one game by 2 runs?
@Bread And Circuses It doesn't need an explanation. The Yankees lost Game 5 of the LDS by 2 runs. So the losing of this one game is what made the 2005 team a failure apparently.
My favorite yankee teams
98-01
06-08
09-11
The yankees i hated the most
2005
More owners need to follow George’s example and stop being stingy with their money
How exactly was baseball almost broken?
He basically admits to being bias against the Astros. So much that he ignores the 2005 NL Team that made it to the World Series after it spent the first two months in the regular season below .500.
Nobody cares about the 2005 Yankees. NOBODY.
It’s pretty sad when Jomboy can make a video admitting humbly as a Yankees fanboy that the 2022 Houston Astros were the Most Complete team in the MLB and that’s why they won it all including the Crown. But this channel can’t hold their bias.
Trash talk Steinbrenner all you want but he kept the core four unlike what most owners would have done. That’s why they were a dynasty.
@Bread And Circuses I’m a huge Bernie fan, he’s actually my favorite player. Unfortunately, core five doesn’t rhyme. Lol. Fab five was already taken by Michigan.
Well he did have to be talked out of dealing Pettitte to the Phillies in 99 for peanuts after a bad half.
@@SmoothCriminal12 so what? What did he do? He paid them, most owners sell them or let them go. Conversations about what owners almost do are asinine.
This team was fun as hell to watch tho, just murdering baseballs
@Bread And Circuses not on paper, lot of underperforming and pavano never playing however
@@ghostofmoredishesmorebitch1507 Not to mention there were times Mo was the only bullpen arm who can be trusted.
@@iamhungey12345 yea the pen to me was weaker than the staff was on paper, they just had a lot of sps that had career bad years or fizzled out all at the same time which sucked. A staff with Vasquez, randy Johnson, Kevin brown and mussina sounds stacked until you see the years they had for them in 04-06😭
@Bread And Circuses Vasquez was in prime and Randy cranked out a few more elite years after. Pavano was glass and yea brown was washed lol
2004-2006 Yankees were good but underachieving.
Then they did the same thing in 2006. Can you please make another video on them from 2006 to today?
Sheffield at 1st base!
People always forget to mention Bernie Williams who was better than Jeter and Posada
Jeter had a better career but Bernie was a better player from 96-2000
@@tommyfu9271 4 Championships in that span