Wheat, it's not just for bread. Wheatlage 2022
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- čas přidán 11. 06. 2022
- You may be wondering, what is wheatlage? Wheatlage is the process of cutting and ensiling wheat as a silage crop, similar to corn silage, to preserve forage quality. The wheat was sprayed 2 weeks ahead of harvest to kill it. The reason it is killed is that it will always be a perfect crop. Otherwise, you cut it all down and let it start drying to find out a random 4 inches of rain in the forecast and now we can't chop it since its to wet, killing helps dry time we chop it at 50% and if it rains it's still standing so it doesn't matter if we have to go home for a day or two because when we get back it always be standing. Every night everything is chopped that is cut down in case of rain which is a common occupancy in this area. Killing the wheat also helps to minimize the molding of the crop when stored.
In this video, the following equipment is used.
Cutting the wheat is a John Deere 8270R (270hp) using the CLAAS 3600FC (front cutter) and CLAAS 9200c. The DISCO 9200 triple mower has a working width of ~29.5 feet and the weight of the cutter is over 5 tons.
Chopping the wheat is a John Deere 8800 Self-Propelled Forage Harvesters using a John Deere 649 Hay Pickup that is 13.1 ft (4 m) wide.
The trailers used to haul the wheatlage are Meyer RT BOSS Semi "Ag" Trailers that are ~36 feet long and can haul ~30 tons and unload in about a minute.
Packing the pile is a John Deere 9570R (570hp and weighs ~22tons) and a John Deere 9620R (620hp and weighs ~22tons).
Cat Challenger MT875C (585hp) pulling a John Deere 2210 Cultivator that has a working width of ~64 feet.
Thanks to Stone Ridge Dairy Farm
and Walker Bros AG / walker-bros-ag-1072235...
Music is Cherokee Shuffle by Nat Keefe & Hot Buttered Rum and Big Sciota by Nat Keefe with The Bow Ties. / @natkeefe
For everyone commenting on how these guys are doing it wrong. If that were the case, they'd go broke, but they're not - they're doing very well. If you prefer to do it differently, good on you - each to his own.
Yup, money. Gain the world and lose your soul.
I’ve actually seen this farm in operation in tue past and for all of the people questioning what is going on this is a huge commercial dairy farm in central Illinois. It looks a lot dryer on camera than it really is and these guys know what to do and have for many years.
No one asked....
@Kyle Peters Be quiet. If you’re not interested just shut up
Cow farmer here local to the same area and thats way too dry. Dairy cows deserve higher quality food than that.
Local dairy near me uses the dry small grains as a blend in the ration. Their ration is too hot and they need straw filler to blend it down. This is normal.
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Cool video and neat operation. Never saw the crop sprayed before harvest. I like that idea. It would definitely make spring forage easier to harvest if you didn't need a 3 or 4 day harvest window of perfect weather.
Oh yeah spray poison on it what harm could that do. And we wonder why cancer is killing millions. Dear lord.
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Hello Jim Blaltz:
Lots of cereal silage (mostly barley) put up in western Canada, way more than corn. I can't see the reasoning for spraying the crop ahead of chopping, & I can't see the reason for chopping the crop at such a low moisture content. I would be worried about that pile heating & spoiling. I used to run my swather right in front of the chopper. The barley was in the soft dough stage & was at 65% moisture. Ideal for putting up in a drive over pile. There was no need for leaving the swath laying for days, trying to dry it down, or no need to spray the crop to kill it.
I agree, spraying does not sound smart at all in this case and I can't see any reason for this as well except spending unnecessary money. Practices like this don't help the public opinion on farming at all and only lead to more regulations (like the glyphosate ban in Europe...).
Cereals (such as wheat) are routinely grown for silage in Europe. It’s called whole crop. There they use a whole crop header, which is effectively a disk mower that feeds the crop directly into the forager. I’d imagine there’s losses with this method. In Europe the crop isn’t sprayed or wilted but is stored in a clamp. Often the field of whole crop is added to a bigger clamp of grass silage.
Are you also an experienced forage silage?
It is allready several years ago, that spraying the crop before harvesting were allowed in Denmark. They have found evidence that eating these products, had a bad influence on litters at sows, and also by humans - pregnancy went down :-(
True.
So? Would you rather have half of the world have a perfect diet? Or starve to death?
Yes I had the same thought that the herbicides would probably contaminate the meat/ milk of the cows and that this affects our consumers health. I‘m not a fan of spraying the crop down and then harvesting it
It's a amazing, I really love that , beacuse I have also back home in Pakistan, these types of work I understand very well ☺️
Good video. Field is massive how many acres would it be?
Pretty cool!
Killing the wheat with round-up prior to harvest destroys the sugar content, I learned that lesson years ago when I tried it.
Fills it with nasty chemicals too
It can't be good at all
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Great video…. Very interesting to see this system of harvesting of crop for your cows!!! In 🇮🇪 we have a similar crop for cows called Wholecrop…. Mixture of almost ripe grain and grass that is harvested with a disc cutter/mower on chopper, cows love it and a alternative to maize/corn crop!!!
This is my dream job. Idc how hard the work is, how long the hrs are, THIS is what I wana do
so I'm guessing this is for the nutritional benefit of the wheat. is it kind the same as barley? the dairy farm i worked for did not use wheatlage but we did use barley mash from a beer factory. i think we had a mix of 2800-3300kg grass silage 800-1300kg corn silage 800-1300kg sugarbeat silage from sugar factory 800-1300kg barley mash 740kg concentrate 60-100kg straw and 2 buckets of mineral feed. 2x per day for 130dairy cows.
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if you read they said they spray the wheat to kill it. Not sure what the stem moisture is but from the way the packer tractors are sinking I think night be to dry
Hell looking at it standing you can tell its to dry
Really interesting. Of all the years in and around farming a different take on silage. The description was helpful at 50% moisture, just doesn't look that way. If it works then you can work to get two crops for the dairy cows. I can understand if your trying to do a large herd of dairy cattle and it's pretty efficient this way. Mounds and pits for storing hasn't changed much over the decades.
I agree Neil. I would think a dry crop would struggle to ensile properly and would be difficult to compact in the bunker. Seems counter intuitive to spray a silage crop also. In NZ, Glyphosate use is becoming a lot more regulated.
is that silage additive behind the forager in the bowser?
Where does it say they sprayed it ? After a few hours is is to not be effective. I found out as it ha a showe about an hour after I sprayed . had to spray again
Are they adding water.....looks too dry to ensile well.
What is the tanker , pulling behind ?what does it for?
I'd love to see their diesel bill. Not to mention fertilizer.
Over here in Europe you would be punished with death penalty for making silage out of weat 😂🙈🙊
The John Deere 8800 harvester has a trailer. What is that for? preservative for the wheatlage??
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All the feedlots grow around here is white soft wheat. Stands super nice with very little and lays nice tight swath. The alternate that with corn. And a rye crop and oats. To me looks way to dry the was blowing of the top of the trucks and they have to carry a water tank which means it’s way to dry
I'm not wild about the idea of spaying the wheat with enough Roundup to kill it, then feeding it directly to cows producing milk for human consumption. Call me old fashioned.
Nothing is stopping you from going out and doing it the “right way”. But your probably a farmer already doing it the “right way”.
They didn’t spray that.. that is winter wheat
This s harvest time for winter wheat educate yourself before you speak Tom
@@jonathanware9179 - Educate myself??? 🥴🥴🥴Maybe you shouldn't comment when you clearly don't take the time to read the description of the video from "Jim Baltz" the original poster who stated " Wheatlage is the process of cutting and ensiling wheat as a silage crop, similar to corn silage, to preserve forage quality". "The wheat was sprayed two weeks ahead of harvest to kill it"..
@@8tomtoms8 well Tom do you use crisco or eat pies, rolls, or biscuits at restaurants?
Tractor Jonh Deere is good job
could you not use a whole crop header on silage harvester instead of mowing it first
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Curiosity. For what they use the liquid trailer behind the swather ?
To keep the feed flowing through the chopper and induced inoculant.
Glad I'm not the one packing that long dry shit.
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What dry matter is that crop?
Looks zero
Without sounding pessimistic I’d hate to go looking in the ground & see how much grain had been shelled with the mower, surely a whole crop head /mower head for the forage harvester would be a better option?
I updated the description with more details from the people that actually do the work as all I do is fly a drone as a hobby. :-) Here is what they said. The wheat was sprayed 2 weeks ahead of harvest to kill it. The reason it is killed is because it will always be a perfect crop. Otherwise, you cut it all down and let it start drying to find out a random 4 inches of rain in the forecast and now we can't chop it since its to wet, killing helps dry time we chop it at 50% and if it rains it's still standing so it don't matter if we have to go home for a day or two because when we get back it always be standing. Every night everything is chopped that is cut down in case of rain which is a common occupancy in this area. Killing the wheat also helps to minimize the molding of the crop when stored.
Way more feed value cut green protein better all you have is straw with a little wheat in it. Most got shelled out in this process
@G. Holman Obviously your not familiar with crop harvesting for a dairy. smh
@G. Holman
Did you read the description?
Interesting! We hat part of the world is this?
Central Illinois in the United States
What are they applicating out of the trailer behind the chopper?
Dairy farm located in Mansfield, Illinois.... Mclean county
I thought wheatlage was supposed to be green and the head be in or just past the doe stage not dry!? Even tho your adding water to it
Looks are deceiving. Here is more details from the people that did the actual chopping: The wheat was sprayed 2 weeks ahead of harvest to kill it. The reason it is killed is because it will always be a perfect crop. Otherwise, you cut it all down and let it start drying to find out a random 4 inches of rain in the forecast and now we can't chop it since its to wet, killing helps dry time we chop it at 50% and if it rains it's still standing so it doesn't matter if we have to go home for a day or two because when we get back it always be standing. Every night everything is chopped that is cut down in case of rain which is a common occupancy in this area. Killing the wheat also helps to minimize the molding of the crop when stored.
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We green chop ours I have never heard of letting it ripen that much.
That’s also better for consumers health when the stuff is not contaminated by them herbicides
I am so confused... I've never seen this before. You bale this and feed it to your livestock?
It is just like corn silage but instead of using corn they use wheat which allows them to get two crops off the field in one year.
The wheat is chopped, packed in a pile, then covered with plastic, and then allowed to ferment. When fed to the dairy cows, it will mixed with other feeds in a TMR (Total Mixed Ration).
@@farmdoc
Thank you for the explanation. I love this
Farm stuff and learning about it.
The truck driver and the blower need to get their shit together.
You very well might get more money out of the wheat this year. 12bucks a bushel
Looks like you should have cut it about 3 weeks ago
Why wouldn’t you fit a Draper head to the forager and cut directly? The fuel saving would be massive.
Yes that is what I was thinking too. Saves a guy and a tractor and the fuel to run it, a bit more of a challenge for the chopper guy though and you couldn't drive at that speed, and any wheat that's lodged is much easier to cut with a discbine.
Probably a chem rep specialists idea
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Cereals for forage is called wholecrop welcome to the 1980s Europe it took you I while to figure that out.
Is animal farming still "allowed" in Europe?
@@freddexta3363 yeah but you have to follow the cows around with a jar to catch their farts lol
Isn't the wheat a bit too dry for silaging?
I think they add the moister, its the trailer behind the forage harvester.
@@Lehosoosilla acid.
@@hansgrehoner9847 yum!
Is the chopper just chopping up the entire plant?
Yes, they are chopping the entire plant.
@@JimBaltz
For animal feed?
@@MustangsTrainsMowers They are using it to feed dairy cows.
i didn't know you could ensilage straw
Not only straw as it still has grain in the dough stage.
Zieht der Häcksler sein eigenes Dieselfass hinter sich her?
the world needs wheat!
what are you doing!
The world needs milk also.
Looks are deceiving. Here are more details from the people that did the actual chopping: The wheat was sprayed 2 weeks ahead of harvest to kill it. The reason it is killed is that it will always be a perfect crop. Otherwise, you cut it all down and let it start drying to find out a random 4 inches of rain in the forecast and now we can't chop it since its to wet, killing helps dry time we chop it at 50% and if it rains it's still standing so it doesn't matter if we have to go home for a day or two because when we get back it always be standing. Every night everything is chopped that is cut down in case of rain which is a common occupancy in this area. Killing the wheat also helps to minimize the molding of the crop when stored.
@@JimBaltz We have a prohibition for doing that in Europe for combined crops as well as chopped ones.
I'm not sure if the average consumer of your products would be so keen about consuming them if he/she'd knew about what you are doing there .
I'm a conventional farmer myself and a fan of using glyphosate.
But I think it's not ok what you are doing there.
@@jakobwehling6699 I agree 100% all my family is dairy. There is no data saying that the glyphosate can be passed in the milk, and there is no data just opinion that the glyphosate does'nt get passed.. I don't agree at all that this is a sound practice.. I know now that if @Jim Baltz is doing this that many others are as well.. I am grateful for my wife for getting me on to Organic, At least I know more about what is not in my childrens food.
All this bot conversions in comments are amazing.
seems pretty ripe
They use a spray to kill it a few days ahead of cutting. I did see a few plants that were missed along the edge of the field and they were in dough stage.
@@JimBaltz why would they spray it before chopping?
Hopefully it’s going for bio fuel not cow food. Max tonnage but low quality cow food. Shoulda cut it a tad earlier.
Must be going to be the feed for the dry cows
Think so to
Looks like its too dry for silageing.
Looks like they’re treating it with some form of liquid based preservative or innoculant which Im sure would turn it into good quality feed. With less straw & a higher quantity of grain this would be superb feed when treated with a urea /ammonia based additive as it turns the forage more alkaline & also raises the
Protein level
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Thats... one way to feed your cows. Lol
Of course it is not only for bread.
It is also to be used for a far more nobler purpose - beer.
Any fool can make bread, but it takes a skilled artsen to brew good beer.
...and then some fool drinks the beer, and 15 minutes later it's been turned into piss!
It seems to me that they would increase their yield about 1% if they would simply not waste so much as they are topping off the trucks. It seems a shame to me to spend all the time and money to produce and harvest a crop only to blow some of it over the truck racks onto the ground as the truck gets full.
the population of people has increased and this food is no longer enough, 1% does not solve the problem. it's shadow chasing. And in general, tall forest should grow on these fields.
@@user-jm4qu6ut3q What is tall forest?
@@chrisford9045 Something that would save you from degradation and extinction and the planet from dying .
@@user-jm4qu6ut3q You have a very poor appreciation for the value of a 1% increase in production. Also, you don't make logical sense.
First you say that the population has increased, so 1% more will not feed that increasing population. Then you say that the field should be planted with trees, thus taking those hundreds or thousands of acres out of food production. So are you going to volunteer not to eat anymore? It's been nice knowing you, but soon you will be dead from starvation.
Now, concerning your lack of appreciation for the value of 1% increase in production....
The current human population of the world is nearly 8 billion people. Let's assume that each person in world has enough food to last one more day, given the current level of agricultural production. Now assume that every farm in the world could increase production by just 1% in the next year. If the current population being fed is 8 billion people, then just 1% of that population is 80 million people. So in this hypothetical situation, a modest 1% increase in food production could feed an additional 80,000,000 people in the world. That would be a huge benefit.
Also, I grew up on farm, raising crops including wheat, barley, dry peas, lentils, garbanzo beans, and bluegrass seed. We also raised cows, pigs, and chickens. Believe me, a 1% increase in profit can sometimes mean the difference between making a financial profit or having financial loss for a year. The profit margin of many farm crops is quite small, so efficiency makes all the difference. That chopped wheat that was being blown out of the truck already had 100% of the cost inputs added to it. The only thing left to do was to harvest it and make an income off of it... But it was wasted by spilling it on the ground because the truck was too full. The only way to recover that loss now is to let a herd of cattle graze in that field to clean up all of the silage that was spilled. Otherwise, it is just lost profit.
@@edschultheis9537 By increasing the amount of food, you increase the number of people, you catch up with your shadow until you fall, as I said.
Your Ed Schultheis humanity is good, but resource depletion and changing conditions will make you think sometime.
It is way to dry to chop my grandpa has a custom silage business and I know that is way to dry that water tank is not going to do anything accept make it mold in the bunker.
Looks very dry
Business side of it is not hard to understand . I must be from Pluto then , it’s hard to wrap my brain around it , about how the decision to spray a probable carcinogenic chemical onto food , then we or animals eat it; is such as just open the car door to get into the car for some people . Like there’s no pausible moment of hhhmmm , I wonder if this is good or bad . But the reasoning to do it is , well rich people said it was safe for pheasants to use . Yup yup yup. No problems here
Btw : I’m also familiar with those same people saying wait so many days , then it’s ok to eat as if heavens gates open back up and everything turns magical and mystical again.
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That crappie it just filler more better to use bedding cattle
shredded wheat anyone
Now that is funny! :-)
0% preservation
Technologically interesting, but environmentally unbearable! From several points of view.
Please explain
Ah yes, go live with the Amish for a year or so first and then see if that is the lifestyle that you would still be advocating for. Milking cows by hand at 4.30 am is really not a barrel of fun, believe me. And neither is forking hay by hand onto a trailer day after day to feed those cows.
Way to dry for silage
Have you ever produced silage?
Here is a video of them producing corn silage this year czcams.com/video/Evu2KsVC_Hs/video.html
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Couple million down the drain.
Wrong.
Bad silage
Good dairyman do not put up poor quality feed. That feed is garbage. I know the round-up gave everyone a headache harvesting it. Awful big pile of wasted product. From the video it looks like dust. Too dry. Way too much money wasted in putting up something that poor.