Fantastic. It’s all here-patience, progressive movement, pressure management, tipping and steering, flowing from outside leg to outside leg, and building a turn from the feet up. Delicious!
Debs, Love all your videos and insight but surprised you made no mention of releasing pressure from big toe to pinky on the OUTSIDE ski to release old turn and initiate new one. You have have previously spoken to this point as did Harold Harb. Tks again for your continued insight. I am playing with hip into the turn.
The move you mention here is no more important than the complimentary move of establishing the pinky toe edge of the uphill ski that is becoming the new outside ski. Both happen simultaneously. In an orchestra is one section more important than the other? Yet all sections of the orchestra are equally timed and coordinated. I focus on different sections, body parts depending on what is needed by the individual, group, or what may be deficient. I believe folks focus a lot on releasing the downhill leg that is becoming the new inside leg yet they do not focus enough on the inside leg becoming the new outside leg, the new stabilizing leg, the new power leg. Just thoughts. Thank you for the comment
Regarding the uphill ski, which is usually in front slightly, I had an instructor advise me to consciously bring it back a little when initiating a turn. Seemed to help some.
Love the visual. I’m def using that soon in my clinics. You’re weighting the new outside foot before edge change, correct? The description of the transition kinda sounds like you’re focusing on a neutral stance with flat skis then pushing off the new outside once the edge changes.
Hi Deb, I asked a question a few days ago on one of your videos from last year regarding ankle flexion. I'm confused about where to focus my pressure when initiating a new turn and into the belly of the turn. When skiing aggressive GS turns, should I be focussing on transferring my strength into the ski by pressing through my foot or does 'ankle flexion' mean transferring that power through the shin of my outside leg? The reason for my confusion is I've watched lots of your videos which show strong skiers with flexion at the ankles - however last year in La Plagne, I had a private lesson where the instructor explained about trying to keep the outside leg as near straight as possible in order to transfer as much power as possible into the turn. He asked me to imagine my leg being a ski pole, if I try to drive a bent ski pole into the snow it is weaker and would snap. A straighter leg (not completely straight) helps transfer more power into the ski - which made sense. I'm confused between maintaining flexion and transferring power. Many thanks for your amazing content, I LOVE your channel! Dom
Hey Deb - Could you consider doing a video exploration of the phrase "pulling the inside foot/ski back"? I think I probably misunderstand the "conventional" meaning, but feel I've discovered a smooth and powerful switch/transition anyway! I've combined the idea with: ● start pulling the old inside ski back as the turn ends and goes into transition ● in smooth timing, begin to move the old outside/ new inside knee INTO the new turn, hips move in, edge angle builds ● pressure on shovel of outside ski/shin/front of boot with the stance you described as "push the car out of the ditch" Next step is to get the inside shovel engaged.
How much to pull back, during a Switch? I'm trying to visualize a "Base of Support Box" that takes matching tip lead and hip orientation (slight counter) into consideration...
Great video here digging in to what I'm reaching to describe: Carving with a European Perspective - "Skiers Lunge"- U10 SSWSC m.czcams.com/video/jv3lY19iEqE/video.html Nugget/Visual at 5:24
A Second video, with more discussion and carved turn footage... "pulling the Stance/Outside Foot BACK" "Better Audio... European carving and chairlift banter!" (32min) U10 SSWSC m.czcams.com/video/7qjy0XQsja8/video.html
As someone who has struggled to convert from the wedge to parallel skiing for years, this visual is incredible. I'm getting my left turns down pretty well, but I'm still having trouble bringing my right ski in to match the left when doing right turns. It always seems to get hung up, and I don't end up parallel until the end of the turn. Maybe it's mental thing???
I like to engage and focus on right foot pinky toe, or lateral side of right foot, when initiating a right turn. As well as focusing on big toe on left foot, which will become outside dominant foot. Then left foot pinky on left turn. White Pass idea.
Deb, here's what I have trouble getting to the bottom of relating to the mechanics of the carve: The inside ski follows a radius that is slightly smaller then the outside ski in a carve. The difference in radius is based on how far apart your two edges are in the turn. Does that comes into play in your thought process of carving? Do they make skis with different inner and outer edge radius already? I've been dreaming about a ski company that makes skis with different inner and outer edge radii recently.
The outside ski is pressured differently than the inside. The radius of the arc depends on edge angle and pressure, and of course the radius of the ski. When carving the outside ski will always have more pressure bending the ski more
...which doesn't really answer @NolieRavioli's question!!: More outside ski pressure = more bend of outside ski= tighter/ smaller outside track radius... "Railroad tracks" = concentric arcs Less inside ski pressure = Less bend of inside ski= "looser"/LARGER Inside track radius... = NO concentric arcs = NO railroad tracks
I'm confused Deb? Would you explain the difference between what you teach, versus Harald Harb's PMTS. both of you seem to stress tipping the feet to flexing your knees. really would appreciate you explain the difference
In the context of this video (what the ski itself is doing in a carved parallel turn) There is no fundamental difference. Harald's beef with the world is that beginners learn wedge skiing, and then its harder for him to teach people to unlearn wedges, stems, and associated upperbody counterbalance issues , that are ingrained in muscle memory. So he uses a different starting point in early instruction for beginners He teaches intermediates how to break the habits. And he teaches advanced skiiers how to improve their carve in more advanced situations. There is no difference in the physics of what HH does, It is a difference of philosophy and process. The rest of the world prefer that beginners learn wedges so they can steer and stop as beginners. Otherwise we have unguided missiles of parallel skiing beginners running into trees, people, or whatever is there to stop them or worse, not stop them. Total chaos, injuries, lawsuits, dogs and cats living together....
@@Ethan-um7cp ok, I guess I have a beef with all of this🤪 I go with what is best for the situation. The situation accounts for the person, the available terrain, equipment that may influence the learning, etc. I go with what works for the situation. How many beginners does Harold Harb work with on a daily basis? I work with beginners and I teach beginners the threads of movements that work throughout, wedge to a high performance turn. I don’t shy away from a wedge. There are ways to teach and utilize a wedge that is practical and safe for the moment and also build upon movements for further development. What I never like hearing is anyone’s approach that is black and white, this way or that way or this method is the end all be all. The Harold Harb followers seem to be black and white, cultish. I can only assume Harold has cultivated this mentality. I feel it’s strange. Only my view.
Fantastic. It’s all here-patience, progressive movement, pressure management, tipping and steering, flowing from outside leg to outside leg, and building a turn from the feet up. Delicious!
a multiple ski pair demo is brilliant for ediucation. Love it.
your enthousiasme, and dedication to the explanation. you commit to explain the same way one should committed to the turn❤
Laying out the skis this way really worked for me.
Had a great day skiing right after I watched this one.
Thanks!!!!
Love it
double thumbs up...thanks for visually dissecting a turn
la mejor instructora, the best ski instructor and medal
Fantastic! So helpful to see this laid out in this way. Thank you!
Yes, it’s that simple and that complex 🥰👍
Deb, great explanation!
Thank you so much Deb, I really appreciate you make this video to help us to understand the mechanics, thanks for your work and your way of teaching
Debs, Love all your videos and insight but surprised you made no mention of releasing pressure from big toe to pinky on the OUTSIDE ski to release old turn and initiate new one. You have have previously spoken to this point as did Harold Harb. Tks again for your continued insight. I am playing with hip into the turn.
The move you mention here is no more important than the complimentary move of establishing the pinky toe edge of the uphill ski that is becoming the new outside ski. Both happen simultaneously. In an orchestra is one section more important than the other? Yet all sections of the orchestra are equally timed and coordinated. I focus on different sections, body parts depending on what is needed by the individual, group, or what may be deficient. I believe folks focus a lot on releasing the downhill leg that is becoming the new inside leg yet they do not focus enough on the inside leg becoming the new outside leg, the new stabilizing leg, the new power leg. Just thoughts. Thank you for the comment
Thank you can not wait for the weekend to practice. Thank you Again , Deb!!!
Love it
Beautiful detailed report! Thank you.
thanks for the clear explanation, deb
Wonderful visual!✨
Regarding the uphill ski, which is usually in front slightly, I had an instructor advise me to consciously bring it back a little when initiating a turn. Seemed to help some.
Queeeeen. Thanks Deb. Inside skifoot awareness and not letting it go ahead..
💪💪💪💪💪😉
Love the visual. I’m def using that soon in my clinics. You’re weighting the new outside foot before edge change, correct? The description of the transition kinda sounds like you’re focusing on a neutral stance with flat skis then pushing off the new outside once the edge changes.
Hi Deb, I asked a question a few days ago on one of your videos from last year regarding ankle flexion. I'm confused about where to focus my pressure when initiating a new turn and into the belly of the turn. When skiing aggressive GS turns, should I be focussing on transferring my strength into the ski by pressing through my foot or does 'ankle flexion' mean transferring that power through the shin of my outside leg?
The reason for my confusion is I've watched lots of your videos which show strong skiers with flexion at the ankles - however last year in La Plagne, I had a private lesson where the instructor explained about trying to keep the outside leg as near straight as possible in order to transfer as much power as possible into the turn. He asked me to imagine my leg being a ski pole, if I try to drive a bent ski pole into the snow it is weaker and would snap. A straighter leg (not completely straight) helps transfer more power into the ski - which made sense.
I'm confused between maintaining flexion and transferring power.
Many thanks for your amazing content, I LOVE your channel!
Dom
Apologies if I've not followed etiquette.
Hey Deb -
Could you consider doing a video exploration of the phrase
"pulling the inside foot/ski back"?
I think I probably misunderstand the "conventional" meaning, but feel I've discovered a smooth and powerful switch/transition anyway!
I've combined the idea with:
● start pulling the old inside ski back as the turn ends and goes into transition
● in smooth timing, begin to move the old outside/ new inside knee INTO the new turn, hips move in, edge angle builds
● pressure on shovel of outside ski/shin/front of boot with the stance you described as "push the car out of the ditch"
Next step is to get the inside shovel engaged.
How much to pull back, during a Switch?
I'm trying to visualize a "Base of Support Box" that takes matching tip lead and hip orientation (slight counter) into consideration...
Great video here digging in to what I'm reaching to describe:
Carving with a European Perspective - "Skiers Lunge"- U10 SSWSC
m.czcams.com/video/jv3lY19iEqE/video.html
Nugget/Visual at 5:24
A Second video, with more discussion and carved turn footage...
"pulling the Stance/Outside Foot BACK"
"Better Audio... European carving and chairlift banter!" (32min)
U10 SSWSC
m.czcams.com/video/7qjy0XQsja8/video.html
As someone who has struggled to convert from the wedge to parallel skiing for years, this visual is incredible. I'm getting my left turns down pretty well, but I'm still having trouble bringing my right ski in to match the left when doing right turns. It always seems to get hung up, and I don't end up parallel until the end of the turn. Maybe it's mental thing???
excellent!
Very helpful
I like to engage and focus on right foot pinky toe, or lateral side of right foot, when initiating a right turn. As well as focusing on big toe on left foot, which will become outside dominant foot. Then left foot pinky on left turn. White Pass idea.
Deb, here's what I have trouble getting to the bottom of relating to the mechanics of the carve: The inside ski follows a radius that is slightly smaller then the outside ski in a carve. The difference in radius is based on how far apart your two edges are in the turn. Does that comes into play in your thought process of carving? Do they make skis with different inner and outer edge radius already? I've been dreaming about a ski company that makes skis with different inner and outer edge radii recently.
The outside ski is pressured differently than the inside. The radius of the arc depends on edge angle and pressure, and of course the radius of the ski. When carving the outside ski will always have more pressure bending the ski more
@DebArmstrongSkiStrong of course!! Pressure! Thank you Deb!
...which doesn't really answer @NolieRavioli's question!!:
More outside ski pressure = more bend of outside ski= tighter/ smaller outside track radius...
"Railroad tracks" = concentric arcs
Less inside ski pressure = Less bend of inside ski= "looser"/LARGER
Inside track radius...
= NO concentric arcs = NO railroad tracks
Hey Deb
Do you have a tip how to do “up” on the inside leg in the same time with the outside leg? ( with outside leg is easier for me)
Thx
XC skiers: There's only one and a half phases, Skittering and Scrambling.
Ha!!
I feel like I have seen this somewhere else today!!
I think someone in my clinic posted it
Ha!!!! Hi David😉😉 I just saw it was you😘
I'm confused Deb? Would you explain the difference between what you teach, versus Harald Harb's PMTS. both of you seem to stress tipping the feet to flexing your knees. really would appreciate you explain the difference
I have no idea what HH teaches
In the context of this video (what the ski itself is doing in a carved parallel turn) There is no fundamental difference. Harald's beef with the world is that beginners learn wedge skiing, and then its harder for him to teach people to unlearn wedges, stems, and associated upperbody counterbalance issues , that are ingrained in muscle memory. So he uses a different starting point in early instruction for beginners He teaches intermediates how to break the habits. And he teaches advanced skiiers how to improve their carve in more advanced situations. There is no difference in the physics of what HH does, It is a difference of philosophy and process.
The rest of the world prefer that beginners learn wedges so they can steer and stop as beginners. Otherwise we have unguided missiles of parallel skiing beginners running into trees, people, or whatever is there to stop them or worse, not stop them. Total chaos, injuries, lawsuits, dogs and cats living together....
@@Ethan-um7cp ok,
I guess I have a beef with all of this🤪
I go with what is best for the situation. The situation accounts for the person, the available terrain, equipment that may influence the learning, etc. I go with what works for the situation. How many beginners does Harold Harb work with on a daily basis? I work with beginners and I teach beginners the threads of movements that work throughout, wedge to a high performance turn. I don’t shy away from a wedge. There are ways to teach and utilize a wedge that is practical and safe for the moment and also build upon movements for further development. What I never like hearing is anyone’s approach that is black and white, this way or that way or this method is the end all be all. The Harold Harb followers seem to be black and white, cultish. I can only assume Harold has cultivated this mentality. I feel it’s strange. Only my view.
@@DebArmstrongSkiStrong Sorry if I was unclear. I think you are correct with your wholistic realist approach, and the world is better for it.
@@Ethan-um7cp no sorry necessary. Just sharing views. Texting is always difficult to fully understand tone, meaning, context. Have a great day
Lift and tilt the inside leg😉
Increasing-decreasing
Patience & let 🎿 's do the work!!!! Finesse