Layering...theory & guide for that Y2K Atmospheric DnB sound

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  • čas přidán 14. 07. 2024
  • Nu-Moon / Moonchild, Intersperse...a few producers from the Good Looking Records pedigree that released some of the most complex atmospheric songs at the turn of the century. Let's talk about layering to build up rich atmospheres, with a real example #musicproduction #atmosphericdnb
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    @0:00 Intro
    @0:27 Examples
    @1:10 Putting together layers
    @4:26 Thickening it up
    @6:07 Ambient Call & Response
    @8:41 Use your FX
    @9:50 Use your Ears
    @10:53 Outro Ambience
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Komentáře • 92

  • @PolarityMusic
    @PolarityMusic Před 7 měsíci +15

    "focus less on the engineering" is the best tip. sooo many producers overe overemphasize technical detaiest. nice vid!

    • @Thought-Forms
      @Thought-Forms  Před 7 měsíci

      amen. cheers mate :) great to see you here too

    • @NordiusOfficial
      @NordiusOfficial Před 4 měsíci

      Totally agree! So much music today is I’ve engineered! I love the Y2K maximalist period! Today it’s all about minimalism.

  • @hippyhobo6285
    @hippyhobo6285 Před 7 měsíci +7

    This is the tutorial I wish came out during the rise of ambient DnB, around the "Sewerslvt" era. This is much more involved and by extension, more interesting than merely using a pad from the Jungle Jungle pack

    • @killjxmes7882
      @killjxmes7882 Před 6 měsíci +3

      rise of ambient dnb was in the 90s mate

    • @hippyhobo6285
      @hippyhobo6285 Před 6 měsíci +3

      @@killjxmes7882 that's like jungle and intelligent DnB. I'm talking about the recent ambient DnB, the stuff that gets mistaken for breakcore

  • @asyncron_os
    @asyncron_os Před 7 měsíci +20

    You just heard my prayers, your tutorial series opened the door to the first electronic records I heard. Thank you.

  • @MindGameArcade
    @MindGameArcade Před 7 měsíci +15

    "It's not for everyone" WELL IT SHOULD BE

  • @unduloid
    @unduloid Před 7 měsíci +8

    8:48 "Be very liberal with your effects."
    Well, that actually means that you should lots use of effects, liberal meaning "generous" or "ample."

    • @Thought-Forms
      @Thought-Forms  Před 7 měsíci +5

      Cheers mate, good catch. my brain was fried when I made this

  • @trevor_mounts_music
    @trevor_mounts_music Před 7 měsíci +5

    Great tutorial. It seems like my problem was simple - not enough layers! 🤷‍♂

  • @kensley94
    @kensley94 Před 7 měsíci +6

    Thank you, still amazed at the timing of all of this, like life itself is one big giant algorithme.
    What you do suddenly pops up everywhere, not only with ambient jungle / int.dnb but even the tutorials about it.
    Its a confirmation for me to keep pursuing.
    I found my genre of music (creation wise), this is it.
    Im not good technically unfortunately, maybe even below average since i nvr had a mentor or money to finance my dreams, but im having fun creating it at least, and proud if i can at least make something ambient.
    These videos will surely help allot😊

    • @Thought-Forms
      @Thought-Forms  Před 7 měsíci +2

      Thanks kensley! It's a great feeling to find a sound / genre and make the decision to pursue that specific sound fully, and give it your all. With that focus you can then dive twice as deep. Keep at it & have fun during the process, you will constantly improve the more you put into it

  • @tannera.3359
    @tannera.3359 Před 7 měsíci +6

    Wa shaving trouble with this last night. As is standard procedure, Thought-forms activated his mind reading capabilities and jumped straight on the case.

  • @deepzone31
    @deepzone31 Před 7 měsíci +5

    Aural Imbalance vibes. Keep these coming.

    • @deepzone31
      @deepzone31 Před 7 měsíci

      Also thanks for making a point about the progression of the arrangement. I've heard far too many people have great ideas fall flat over the course of a tune because they couldn't build momentum out beyond a core pad.

    • @Thought-Forms
      @Thought-Forms  Před 7 měsíci +2

      one of the GOATS!

  • @cuppajoe101
    @cuppajoe101 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Thank you for another great tutorial. A lot of the comments already touched on this, but your stuff is really right up my alley for what I'm trying to make these days. My current track isn't working because the pad is exactly that "sustained note" kind of thing with no call and response at all. I am going to try this technique and see if it improves things (spoiler: I think it will :D)
    Also, to your point about using your ears - I've been reading a lot about the early days of this music (Renegade Snares is a great book) and the spirit of these tunes is definitely about just going for vibes and doing what felt right. A lot of the great tracks were just people trying to make something they vibed with and I'm certain they were not doing any fancy engineering, just creating a vibe.

    • @Thought-Forms
      @Thought-Forms  Před 7 měsíci +1

      Cheers mate! This should help for sure. Will check the book out too. All about the vibe and just making something that sounds good, imo... :)

  • @spacepete
    @spacepete Před 4 měsíci +1

    wow, a tutorial where the wanted sound is explained clear and concise +1 sub 🙌🏾

  • @edinatl2008
    @edinatl2008 Před 7 měsíci +4

    This is the sound that got me into dnb, will probably rewatch this, so thanks for the nice tutorial.

  • @progressiveoverload7320
    @progressiveoverload7320 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Thanks for the listening recommendations - wasn’t familiar with either artist you mention here.

  • @m3m3sis
    @m3m3sis Před 7 měsíci +9

    These sounds remind me very much of Final Fantasy X and the likes of that same period. Would be cool to see you dwelve into those soundscapes. Another artist I'd love to see here is Dallas Superstars and JS16 (Darude, Bomfunk Mc's, Mighty 44) and especially their soft synths.

    • @Thought-Forms
      @Thought-Forms  Před 7 měsíci +2

      You know, I never put much time into FFX but did recently grab it on PS2 - been wanting to dive into it for a while. Will be some good research to play through. Thanks for the other artist suggestions too, will check em out!

  • @spaderttv
    @spaderttv Před 6 měsíci +2

    Just wanted to say - quality knowledge you’re dropping here!

  • @leonaRt7470
    @leonaRt7470 Před 7 měsíci +3

    This reminds me of the Space Night series! I love you man!

    • @Thought-Forms
      @Thought-Forms  Před 7 měsíci +1

      haha love it! was just hunting for some of the space night dvd / vhs' on discogs a few weeks ago

  • @MrDenme0
    @MrDenme0 Před 7 měsíci +4

    Super cool, once again. Thought Forms on a roll with sooo much goodness as of lately. And so usable as always. Thanks dude!!

    • @Thought-Forms
      @Thought-Forms  Před 7 měsíci

      cheers friend! thanks for the kind words and support

  • @recursoo
    @recursoo Před 7 měsíci +3

    your so underrated. learning so much from your vids.

    • @Thought-Forms
      @Thought-Forms  Před 7 měsíci

      thanks recursoo! stoked to hear you're learning a bunch 🤝 keep it up

  • @NoyaD9
    @NoyaD9 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Looking forward to put your tips into practice! Always loved these lush pads and recently redescovering the intelligent dnb movement

    • @Thought-Forms
      @Thought-Forms  Před 6 měsíci +1

      Let's GOOOO. The movement is strong, no better time to jump back in and master the lush pad sound

  • @bjornlakenstrazen2186
    @bjornlakenstrazen2186 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Your channel is amazing! I just got into vaporwave/electronica recently but come from a more organic background in writing music. But i love experimenting with ethereal and alien-like pads with smooth movements like this example.

    • @Thought-Forms
      @Thought-Forms  Před 6 měsíci

      Thanks bjorn! Always good to approach these genres from a different background, that inspiration & experience can often help shape a unique sound. Have fun :)

  • @TaZerrHD
    @TaZerrHD Před 7 měsíci +2

    smooth tutorial thanks!

  • @saren6538
    @saren6538 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Hope you keep making these sorts of videos - thanks

  • @MrJoldroyd
    @MrJoldroyd Před 7 měsíci

    Thank you for everything you do! Love your videos so much

  • @vibrantdragon3123
    @vibrantdragon3123 Před 7 měsíci

    Thanks for showing this information

  • @orpheuscreativeco9236
    @orpheuscreativeco9236 Před 7 měsíci +4

    I remember using Bryce in grade school 🙌✨ I may still have some 3D renders from computer lab! 🖥️💾 Cool tutorial ✌️

    • @Thought-Forms
      @Thought-Forms  Před 7 měsíci +2

      Love it, release those old renders! Bryce has seen a bit of a "resurgence" over the past few years, still such a fun program to use

  • @UKjobe
    @UKjobe Před 7 měsíci +3

    This is a great tutorial. It would be helpful if you could steer us towards some of the Korg Triton presets used and also mention some of the chords you've used. You said a couple of times that you were triggering Triton presets as a single note, yet they sound decidedly like chords to my ear, unless the chord is already baked into the preset which is often the case. A little more context would be helpful here.

    • @Thought-Forms
      @Thought-Forms  Před 7 měsíci +3

      Thanks jobe, appreciate the feedback, will focus a bit more on that additional context next time. cheers!

    • @Hauteclaire16
      @Hauteclaire16 Před 7 měsíci

      @@Thought-Formsthis would be very helpful!

    • @saren6538
      @saren6538 Před 7 měsíci

      @@Thought-Formsdo you think the triton vst is quite close to the hardware ?

    • @Thought-Forms
      @Thought-Forms  Před 7 měsíci +3

      @@saren6538 it’s spot on, I tested both side by side and could barely tell a difference

  • @CoriMusic97
    @CoriMusic97 Před 7 měsíci

    You have the best recipes👍🏻🍰 that take me to a different planet. As always great video and great teachings 🙏🏻

    • @Thought-Forms
      @Thought-Forms  Před 7 měsíci

      🧑‍🍳 cheers friend, thanks for the comment!

  • @w00d5m4n
    @w00d5m4n Před 7 měsíci +1

    great vid brother subscribed

  • @Bittamin
    @Bittamin Před 7 měsíci

    Damn you just keep helping me 🎉❤ this is exactly what I’m working on for my next tracks 😊 thanks again!

    • @rizilm2229
      @rizilm2229 Před 7 měsíci

      Hey is that you from VT's server?

  • @VNDM-MUSIC
    @VNDM-MUSIC Před 7 měsíci

    thanks man, that was inspiring.

  • @lunanescence
    @lunanescence Před 7 měsíci +2

    great as always, thank you.
    these tutorials give me inspiration to make new cool stuff every day.

  • @ikarugamoo
    @ikarugamoo Před 6 měsíci +1

    More great videos mate. From one Omni artist (Wilsh) to another 👍🏼 keep em coming.

  • @Cidr0n
    @Cidr0n Před 7 měsíci +23

    Challenge: make a similar patch using only stock plugins, without using samples.

    • @Thought-Forms
      @Thought-Forms  Před 7 měsíci +16

      Challenge accepted

    • @VanillaSoul
      @VanillaSoul Před 7 měsíci +4

      This is a cool challenge, but I don’t think it’s too hard. Doing things the way they did in the 90s takes much more effort 😂

    • @saren6538
      @saren6538 Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@VanillaSoulexactly - hardware all the way

    • @Cidr0n
      @Cidr0n Před 6 měsíci +3

      @@VanillaSoul Show off your own stock-plugin jungle pads then ;)

    • @markbelcher1777
      @markbelcher1777 Před 6 měsíci

      Not always a need to make your own!

  • @ZwarteKotishka
    @ZwarteKotishka Před 7 měsíci

    nice

  • @fayntasy
    @fayntasy Před 6 měsíci +3

    what i learned is
    step 1: get a korg triton
    step 2: profit

  • @juliana.2120
    @juliana.2120 Před 6 měsíci +2

    a wise man once said: STACK THE LAYERS :D (AcesToAces)

  • @PleaseShutUpNowDude
    @PleaseShutUpNowDude Před 7 měsíci +2

    Love me some bleeps and burbles lol

  • @MrMikomi
    @MrMikomi Před 7 měsíci +1

    Hi, thanks for the video. I'm sorry for being dim, but why are you sampling your Korgs rather than just using multiple instances of them? I mean, assuming you have the Korg Collection.

    • @Thought-Forms
      @Thought-Forms  Před 7 měsíci +1

      All good! I have a physical Korg Triton I was sampling from because it has the EXB-MOSS card (which the VST doesnt have) as well as a bunch of presets in sysex format, which the VST cant ingest either

  • @jamesjr2550
    @jamesjr2550 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I usually do something similar using granular synthesis im uvi falcon and phase plant

    • @Thought-Forms
      @Thought-Forms  Před 7 měsíci +1

      awesome! uvi falcon seems pretty slick, need to give it a try

    • @jamesjr2550
      @jamesjr2550 Před 7 měsíci

      @@Thought-Forms it is like everything about it

  • @Michbigheart
    @Michbigheart Před 6 měsíci

    Can you please teach to KORG Users and me how to Create a PROGRAM from SCRATCH on Triton VST KORG COLLECTION ? Thanks !

  • @user-ut3rn7jl3g
    @user-ut3rn7jl3g Před 7 měsíci +1

    what chords are that first pad playing in the sampler?

  • @andthatsmytune
    @andthatsmytune Před měsícem

    What Triton patches are you using?

  • @whitetiger3209
    @whitetiger3209 Před 7 měsíci

    Which daw you use bro in this video?