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Adrenal Symptoms vs Thyroid Symptoms: Don't Get Confused
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- čas přidán 15. 08. 2024
- Is your problem your adrenals or your thyroid or both? Adrenal and thyroid problems can mimic one another and make diagnosing the problem very difficult. I've seen patients believe that their primary problem is their adrenals when it's their thyroid and vice versa.
In most cases, it's BOTH issues at the same time and treating one will NOT fix the other. You must treat BOTH your thyroid and your adrenals if you want to feel better.
There is a strong connection between your adrenal glands and your thyroid gland. Those people who have low thyroid function, otherwise known as hypothyroidism, tend to ALSO have problems with their adrenal functions or adrenal fatigue.
The problem is that there is a big overlap in the symptoms seen in both adrenal fatigue and hypothyroidism such that it can be hard to tease out the difference between the two.
Learn more about the symptoms between these conditions, how to determine if your symptoms are related to your thyroid or your adrenals or both, and how to test for adrenal problems.
This connection is so strong that I recommend all thyroid patients treat their adrenal glands.
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Anybody use desiccated adrenal gland to treat their adrenal fatigue?
I have every single symptom on both sides at extreme levels.
How are you doing now and did you fix it?
@@tanyawieczorek6603 Eventually, yes and still working on it! After my 8th loss, a stillborn this time, at 41 weeks one year ago my thyroid and all symptoms went crazy, my tsh was always at a 4-5 but no doctor acknowledged an issue despite being very symptomatic, I had massive flares after giving birth and it reached a 10 along with my other thyroid labs (Free T3 and free T4 being out of whack, antibodies were good though surprisingly). Lead me down a rabbit hole of thyroid even more (always suspected it). I’m now on Levothyroxine AND liothyronine it’s my 3rd month. My thyroid labs are now optimal but I still have some adrenal problems (I think though it could just be a result of trauma) but everything else has improved dramatically. I need to work more on my adrenals it’s not something I’ve started focusing on too much, baby steps for me. I also discovered I was low in iron, vit d, folate, b12 and my inflammation crp was at almost a 10. After starting supplementing with better supplements than I was on and going on thyroid meds I’ve improved everything. I took nac for inflammation and I got it down to a 4. I’m going to be trying LDN soon to further help. I’ve still not gotten pregnant again yet though but it’s only my 3rd month and 1 of those times our timing wasn’t great and I think there’s other factors still going on. Overall though my health and well-being has improved. I no longer suffer constipation for example like ever, I don’t suffer from that inwardly cold feeling and I don’t feel like I’m literally losing my mind and I can get through the day without having a sleep, despite the massive mental consequences of losing our son my depression improved overnight once I started meds, I’ve been able to actually clean the house and do things again before I was just too tired. Lots of improvements I’ve not listed here.
I hear you. Somedays are so bad I cant get out of bed and my brain doesn't work..
This is how I feel I can’t take it anymore
Man, you do such a GREAT job explaining THE facts of Adrenal Fatigue and Hypothyroidism and drawing the CONNECTION between the two. This makes total sense!!!
I had a traumatic event summer 2019 and slowly, I started gaining weight rapidly. I got scared and did research to look into Hashimotos. I asked to be tested for tpo antibodies and they came back positive. I focused on my thyroid, got on meds, increased doses according to labs, added t3 as my rt3 was high.. I did it all. I still continued to lose weight. I figured I can do my regular workout, teach my fitness classes as I was being medicated. I had been so tired for a long time, worked 2-4 jobs, 12 hours a day, had major toxic relationships, and was always chronically stressed. Summer 2019 was my tipping point as a miscarriage, im guessing, tanked my adrenals. It was down hill from there. After a year of research, i finally realized (through a dutch test) I have chronic adrenal fatigue, cortisol was low all dat, thyroid low, ALL sex hormones were low, dhea was non existent, etc. So I focused on thyroid when it was my adrenals that I needed to support.
How are you doing now?
This has been the most informative video on the connection between AF and thyroid issues. Thank you from the bottom of my heart. It makes PERFECT SENSE!
D#d##d
I have a hypothyroid and a doctor that does not believe in adrenal fatigue. I've been hypo for 12 years. I'm tired of drugs, being tired and no other options.
Are you following a ketogenic diet?
I have been thyroid diagnosed Hishimotos since my early teens. It really got bad during menopausal journey. Now acute adrenal fatigue.. This is my 4th attempt to review these steps and finally I can comprehend what the heck this is all about.. Finally. Thanks Dr Childs
What treatments arare you taking for the adrenals?
Omg. I have been complaining to my doctor about these same symptoms. The answer I get is, Well, your labs look fine.
Please find a doctor that understands 'normal' vs 'optimal'!
This video hit home! I’ve recently been diagnosed with hypothyroid but I believe I’ve had adrenal issues for awhile. I’m having my labs rechecked in December and I’ll have my Dr check my cortisol. Great information!
Thyroid humor: In this case the thyroid is in a toxic, co-dependent relationship with the adrenals. Yes, I have like most all they Hypothyroid list, but fertility issues seeing as how I am 55.5 years of age. I have many of the Adrenal symptoms-tired but wired, intense cravings for sugar and carbs, caffeine pretty much keeps me alive. I don't gain a lot of weight but I don't lose it either. I can certainly pack in on easily as I already have major weight issues. Question, how do we fix our adrenals or at least improve them? Thank you for another informative video, Dr. Childs.
Adrenal adaptogens, stress reduction techniques, thyroid hormone, b vitamins, changing up your diet, just to name a few therapies :) You can find some supplements that help here: www.restartmed.com/adrenal-fatigue-supplements/
@@drwestinchilds as always, I appreciate your knowledge & willingness to help. Thank you. :)
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I've been diagnosed with underactive thyroid so im now on levothyroxine but I dont think it's making much of a difference. I still feel symptoms of both adrenal/thyroid, I literally have every single one of those symptoms
I took this also with the same thoughts . I stopped taking this and now have had blood work done and have found out I HAVE A TUMOR ON MY RIGHT ADRENAL GLAND. .
@@sharonkbutz3754 oh my Sharon. Sorry to hear. Wishing you an immediate healing. I am curious how you discovered the adrenal tumor? Labs, xrays, etc? Thank you in advance.
Hello. I have hypothyroidism. Since taking selenium and zinc, my energy has improved, my
Nails and hair are stronger and I’m losing the weight I put on being hypothyroid
Super. Thanks a million.
This makes perfect sense.
Endo did mention adrenals but still struggling in with evil levothyroxine 100.
PILING ON WEIGHT.
Crave sugar at night.
Wired a bitsome notes. Been in bed since Oct.
Now have lymphodemo..heart problems.
Lost a sibling. So heartbroken. Depression n Anxiety I've upped meds myself.
I sleep my life away. I do NOTHING! JUST PILE ON MORE WEIGHT BUT I ONLY EAT 1200 BAD CALORIES A DAY.
IF I CAN MANAGE IT I TRY A WALK..BUT NEED COFFEE IF I HAVE TO LEAVE HOUSE OR DO ANYTHING.
LIFE NOT SO FULL OF PROMISE JUST NOW.
YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD! THANKS.
H.L. Phillips Me too.
Do you eat foods with gluten???
I know I have adrenal fatigue for sure. I keep talking to my doctor about it and they won't do testing for me. They just redirect me back to my thyroid. My thyroid is fine! Thry just keep telling me if symptoms persist then come back within a few weeks or a few months and they'll test my thyroid again 😑
I can hardly get out of bed in the morning. I have so much I'm determined to do and I'm not depressed... I just feel like there is a 500 pound weight crushing me! I'm wired but tired 😫
What are you treating this with?
How are you doing now?
I take PMG adrenal pack for adrenals and switched from thyrotrophin back to levothyroxine until my body balances out
Excellent video Dr. Childs. I have both adrenal and thyroid issues. It would be great to work with a fantastic doctor like you.👍
Great video! Thanks Dr.!! I have both symptoms as well as I noticed that I always get anemia ( low iron) after long period of stress. This video hepled me decide on treating my Adrenal fatigue issues along or before the thyroid problems!
😑 my adrenals completely collapsed a couple years ago. It was a long time coming. I know I’ve had low thyroid many years ago- along with the suite of insulin resistance, severe pcos/ estrogen dominance… but docs didn’t mention my thyroid for years- but of course conventional docs don’t really understand thyroid. Ugh. I take adaptogens and I just started learning about thyroid again. I am so tired of having health issues to fix, it’s been over 30 years..,
Thnx for sharing this information. I have now started to address my adrenals and can already feel a slight difference.
This is very helpful information. I thank you so much for all you give us in this video that otherwise we would never know. May the Good Lord richly continue to bless your generous heart.
Thank you - great video! Is it worth also having a video about overlaying the adrenal and thyroid symptoms with perimenopause symptoms?
Sure, I'll add it to the list. You can also find more info on perimenopause here: www.restartmed.com/perimenopause/
Great question Wendy
How about one for those of us in menopause with hashimotos thyroiditus
During Covid I had my thyroid labs checked and they were off (which isn’t normal for me), but since I was under a lot of stress at the time (not only from Covid but also from something traumatic that I had found out about one of my kids), my doctor said she thinks my adrenals needed help first... she started me on an adrenal support and b-complex... the next time I had my labs drawn, they were within normal range (also my doctors “normal” range is actually tighter than the normal doctor’s “normal” range. Thankful for my doctor’s knowledge!!
What kind if Dr do you see... a regular gp? 0r functional?
What did the adrenal support consist of?
How do we fix adrenal/cortisol problems?
Limit or omit sugar, simple carbs, caffeine, alcohol or any stimulants... they are very hard on the adrenals.
@@thearb2003 agreed. I had to cut out my fav black coffee and that was the hardest thing to do but also the best decision I made.
@@thearb2003 I have just one 8 oz cup of coffee in the morning. Do you think I'd have to cut it although it is such a small dose of caffeine?
Take Licorice Root or Adrenal Glandulars.
Yes have had thyroid issues.
I was just wondering about this today. Thank you for the upload!
No thyroid since 15 y.o. on Naturethroid high doses, low TSH. Crazy cortisol issues...CRAZY MADNESS...I have all the issues above!
I’m sorry. How are you doing? Did you do anything to help your cortisol issue? I’m going through an elevated cortisol level along with Hashimotos and hypothyroidism. Hope you’re better 🙏🏼
I tested it all - thyroid TSH, fT3, fT4. rT3 recently as well, which was hard to get. Cortisol, Saliva Cortisol during the day... there is a minor thyroid hypofunction which I am treating with a T4/T3 combination, but other than that all values are declared normal by the labs and doctors. The cortisol saliva was done three times over some years and twice it was in norm range, with a bit low levels in the evenings, once it was too high in the morning and too low in the evening. So I have no clue as to how to treat it. I guess the main suggestions I get is to reduce stress, do sports like jogging regularly and meditate regularly...
All your videos are blessing to humanity... Helps People understand and make a informed decision and choose wisely 🙏🏼🙂
May God keep you blessed🙏🏼
Had thyroidectomy for thyroid cancer at age 16 (I’m now 60), with no problems since, other than having radioctive iodine treatments about 10 yrs ago to help get rid of some thyroid tissue that showed up on a scan. I have always felt tired but the last few months I have suffered with extreme fatigue/low energy which is impacting my life in a neg way because I have no motivation to do anything anymore, and I am pushing myself to get through the day and perform well at work. My hair has been thinning terribly this past year, dry skin, and developed eczema/psoriasis about 2 yrs ago. I also deal with lots of joint & muscle pain (which on top of the low energy issue makes it difficult to try to exercise or do anything active, and takes me a while to get up and move upon awakening. I take ibuprofen daily for this, which I know is not good to do, but idk what else to do, other than yoga, but I just don’t have the energy or motivation enough for it. My sister was recently diagnosed with Hashimoto’s and yet never had thyroid issues (that we knew of until now). Could I possibly have Hashimoto’s even w/o a thyroid? I have ALL the symptoms in both lists, except depression. I never had a wet problem until the past couple yrs, and have gradually gained an extra 15 pounds, and now have a bloated belly as well. I thought it must be high cortisol due to stress, lack of sleep. I haven’t seen an endocrinologist in several yrs, but my family physician has done a thyroid panel on me and checks my t3/t4 occasionally, and always says they’re “normal,” but a past endo doc yrs ago informed me that normal for me is not the same due to the history of thyroid cancer, so I’m unsure if I’m even taking the correct dose of Levothyroxine (recently pharmacy chgd it to Euthyroxine). I’m wondering if the Euthyroxine is not working as well and making me more tired? I live in the Kansas City area and trying to find a good endo doc.
(I’m sorry this was so lengthy)
~Suzy~
Hello… since I started taking 200 mcg selenium and 25 mg zinc, my hair and nails are growing back and I’m losing the 20 lbs I gained with hypothyroid
I hear Ashwaganda is good for adrenals. It’s an adaptogen. Best of luck
The blood tests aren't very effective in detecting underactive thyroid. /Taking your under-arm basal cell temperature under BOTH arms, first thing in the morning before you even sit up in bed over a few days is MUCH more accurate. If either arm is much below 97.6 you are hypo-thyroid. One side of your body could be worse than the other side. The same goes for blood pressure, kidney function and a lot of things - but that hasn't dawned on orthodox medicine yet.
I love this video on how adrenal fatigue effects cortisol!! But can you do one on how how high cortisol might affect adrenal function?
My doctor told me I'm hypo thyroid, despite being in the low normal range, and prescribed T3 only. At two weeks taking 30mcg of T3 only, I began noticing periods of elevated resting heart rate, especially in the mornings, of 90- 130 for hours. I got nervous, quit the T3 and a bunch of my hair fell out.
A friend told me my cortisol was probably too high to tolerate the T3... could this be possible?? 🤔
Food for thought, read up on T3 ,the info is out there. Google it.😊
Thank you!
***I need so much help***
Everything you say makes sense. I know a lot from years of research.
But, now at almost 48, I am at my highest weight and it can be a combination of so much: no thyroid, not eating much, no energy to walk or exercise, adrenal, hormones, fibromyalgia meds, antidepressants meds......
My doctor will test me for whatever I suggest, so he is not the problem. Coming up with a plan that will help me is the challenge.
You've been so overwhelmed ...all that happening with your health is awful for you.
If there was one encouragement i could send you, I'd say you're a good soldier in this affliction we endure here below 😢
Since you have a Dr who will run the tests you ask of him.. I'd keep watching Dr Child and , like myself, just learn all we can from him.
Best wishes 🙏
How are you doing now?
Your issues sound similar to mine, except I have a thyroid but my adrenals are shot.... a year and a half of Long Covid..
How are u now
This is my 2nd video watching you. I just stumbled across you. I have Hypothyroidism. I just wonder if I have been misdiagnosed this whole time. Wow, very interesting.
I’m exactly in this situation, thanks a lot for the video🙏
I have had low thyroid for over 23 years. It was discovered 22 years ago. When I went on Levothyroxine, it changed my life almost immediately, for a while... I was SO much better.
But, over the years, maybe by 5 years after that, and since, I have increasingly gotten worse again. I have never had my cortisol tested, until last week.
I don't have the results yet, so am not sure if that is my problem, but watching this was helpful to me. I knew a little bit about adrenal fatigue, but always thought my issues were a need for NDT or T-3. So far, my doctor is not interested in changing my medicine. What is your recommended treatment for adrenal fatigue?
Did you fix the adrenals and how did you do it?
Stage 3 adrenal fatigue here and it's causing T4 -> T3 conversion issues among a host of other problems. It's so bad that I get paradoxical reactions i.e. Cytomel burns me out and puts me in a coma. At least it helped me figure out that it's a liver issue with T3 and cortisol. Possibly Non-Alcoholic Fatty Liver (my BMI is only 22!) and/or heavy metal/pesticide/herbicide accumulation.
Hi. I'm from Poland. Thanks for your advice. I have hypothyroidism. Your advice is very helpful.
We are still looking for a functional medicine endocrinologist in rural upstate NY or VT to check my thyroid. My functional medicine doctor on the West coast put me on medication for a slow thyroid. I moved to the East Coast and quit taking that medication. No refills on it and still looking for the right doctor. I have both adrenal and thyroid issues. I venture to guess that having a complete hysterectomy at age 27 and being a highly driven multi Tasker born in state of fight or flight burned out my adrenals and that dampend my thyroid. I'm 13 days into just eating meat, salt water and as much animal fats as my body will tolerate, in hopes of healing my adrenals and thyroid.
I'm looking into a naturopathic doctor at this point. I've spent more money on doctors visits and I've had to be my own advocate & tell providers what I wanted done. My levels have been more stable on Nature Throid versus Synthroid. I no longer can tolerate stress at all!! Or exercise. I can do light walking. I used to lift weights, use circuit machines, etc. If I try I crash! Even spending 30 minutes gardening puts me out. I require more sleep to feel functional. I'm still getting no feedback from doctors. I've recently gained 6 pounds in 8 weeks & went up a pants size. I had complete thyroidectomy in 2012 for cancer then in 2013 a central & left neck dissection due to cancer spread. Took RAI both times after.
After years of doing Reflexology. I find what you are saying is true.
I was put on NP because I tested with a sky high TSH (but normal T4) (no other tests before medicating) and got severe hyper symptoms within 5 days. I'm starting to seriously suspect that adrenals may be making appearances for a thyroid condition which I've never felt I had symptoms of in the first place but was pressured into medicating by more than one doctor. Feeling at a loss of what to do about this but it has really tanked my quality of life for the past nearly 5 months.
How are you doing now?😊
I really needed this video. Thank you so so so much !!!
I'm soooooo wired but tired!!!!
Hi Dr. Childs I have had adrenal issues for about 5 years maybe longer because doctors just laughed at me. I could barely function. I had been in prednisone my whole life for RA. I was eventually put on hydrocortisone 37mg a day in multiple doses along with compounded thyroid meds. I started having weight gain and blood pressure issues so I have weaned myself down now to 19mg morning with my thyroid meds and another 4mg at 11:30am and then 4mg at 3pm. So a total of 27mg a day.
I still test very low cortisol in the morning bloodwork. I am functioning not too badly cognitive wise.
My question is with the Covid virus which I’m in the high risk group should it get me should I be trying to get my hydrocortisone dose down further?
I seem to be having some fluid retention issues and was seeing an Accupunturist but with the restrictions my treatments are in hold I’m feeling it.
Any ideas what I an do. I have often wondered what was primary the adrenal or the thyroid. I went through a long period of complete gut dysbiosis. It’s taken a long time and work but my gut is better but food is still a big problem for me. I’m gluten, dairy, egg, wheat, soy and canola free.
Thanks for any advice. Is it possible to get a phone consultation with you?
Wow, you sound like me, I had a year and a half of Long Covid.. now my adrenals are shot.
How are you doing now?
First time ANY dr has explained this. I have hypothyroidism and very low cortisol. Endocrinologist tested for Addison disease but I’m making enough cortisol to disqualify Addison. I’m still getting no help as to why my cortisol is so low 5 at 8am and what to do about it. Help please? How do I support both productively 🙏🏻
How are you doing now? Did you figure this out?
now add electrolyte imbalances and how that can impact adrenal and thyroid
I have so many crossover symptoms and I feel like I’m losing my mind. It’s a fight to get doctors to take me seriously and run my bloodwork. I did a thyroid test by Everlywell at home and the results showed low T3. Any suggestions on how advocate for myself in the healthcare system?
Chances are that you will need to visit an alternative or functional practitioner to get the blood tests and help you need❤
I'm pretty sure I'm hypothyroid and have had test results for low cortisol/ depressed DHEA in the spring. Awaiting results on nodule MRI and blood test. My question, is, since I should probably give up on stimulants, what should I do about my ADHD meds? Adderal xr.
No coffee is hard enough and I still sneak a small cup every three days and I drink a lot of decaf green tea as well. Coffee is the stuff of life...
Fantastic video sir!! As a longtime fitness/metabolic health coach, I'm using this info to prep for a Fitness Consultation that I have coming up later today. The client I'm seeing was diagnosed with Hashimotos awhile back. This video is super helpful. Thanks doc! 🫡
Very helpful video. Thanks!
Yes doctor Mamés since , I got my thyroid under control but I have high cortisol
SO HOW DO YOU FIX IT. EITHER ONE OF THEM????
Great video! How would you know which one to start working on first?
Good day doc, I have the same symptoms..
Yes I believe I have the problem, My cortisol always tests high ,where are you?? ,I need to see you!!!! 😊
How are you doing? Were you able to lower your cortisol level? I’m going through the same issue. Hope you are better 🙏🏼🙏🏼
@danielagentile8049 HI, no I haven't been able to lower just yes,a d my doctor doesn't seem to concerned about it,,,have you been able to lower yours?
@@smiller8688 I’m working on it. Elevated cortisol is not normal and it’s no fun.
Very Informative
Does iodine therapy aid in regulation of the thyroid?
I have all these symptoms, in one.bowels weakness, coldness, all of them. Tiredness, and a dr that. Dosnt seem seen to want to do any checking of check all of this Out,to find what the problem is ...
I've had to self diagnose a thyroid problem before getting medical advice. Does the parathyroid have the same affect?
I have diagnosed hyperthyriodism and selfdiagnosed adrenal fattique. I have come a long way on my own with the adrenal fattique.
I have had “normal” levels of TSH (0.85) and free T4 (16) and regular T3 (2.3) for a year now. I now it would be optimal to have my doctor run more tests, but it is not possible here.
I have one huge problem still which I struggle to find anything about in your videos - I still cant do any exercise besides walking without my fattique is unreal for the following week, I feel hyper, and my thyroid gland actually hurts fysically during exercise and after. Does this sounds familiar? If so, what is probably still wrong? I cant seem to figure this out..
Please see this article for more information: www.restartmed.com/exercise-thyroid-problems/
Doctor how do you treat both these diseases?
What happens in regard to HYPERThyroidism? And the connection between the both adrenal gland etc? 😢
Dr Childs I have all those symtoms but also alot of hair loss and everytime I get my thyroid tested its always normal
Low in silica?
How to treat adrenal dysfunction??? Please
I just start realizing recently that maybe, all of the health issue's i have been experiencing in my life from about the age of 8, to hashimoto's what was diagnosed at 27,might come from the adrenals in the first place.
But i dont really have a clue where to go from here.
Due to a hashimoto's flair up last year i started a gut healing diet. Also started maca and ashwagandha. But now 8/ 9 months in my healing journey, i feel like things get worse. More of the typical adrenal fatigue symptoms, like tiredness in the afternoon. And wide awake at 22.00/22.30 when i want to go to bed. 🤷🏼♀️
I really wish there was a plan to follow.
Try healing your liver w/ a detox and/or fasting. Feel better soon!!
@@BonaFideWildLife thank you, have been doing that for the last 9 months without any noticeable differences. I actually do feel worse. Like my brain function isn't working properly anymore, or i dont have acces to my own brain function.
@@Eve.N1782 You're so welcome! Stay hopeful!!
Have you found a doctor that will do tests on you? My test results revealed sooooo many monkey wrenches that was affecting my function. (Low Vit D, reactivated viral infection (I thought it was food allergies), Low T3, Lowish Cortisol, Low DHEA (probably low progesterone too)).
I'm not sure which supplement is helping my brain fog, yet Vit D + K2, NAC, L-Carnitine, and/or probiotics are doing the trick. I still haven't really found anything that gives me a surge in natural energy, however I think that will come once my liver heals.
Again this is my situation, so it may not apply to you until you get tested to pinpoint what's going on.
Lastly, if there's emotional trauma, look into Bottom Up Therapy and TRE Trauma Release Exercises. Liver issues stem from anger/resentment and I was holding onto a lot of resentment that had to go.
Hormone resistance not getting through the receptors to get the message into the cells
Yikes, I’m sure this is probable,now I have more homework to do.❤❤
I hv high tsh,, along with low b12 n d3,, not taking any medicine,, only taking d3 n b12 supplement,,, will get test done after 2 months
your info. is awesome!!!!
Good video ❤
I have low cortisol but still within range. My body is also favoring cortisone over cortisol per my dutch test.
I used to have brain fog and feel wired but tired but now I'm just tired. I wake up not tired but by 1-4pm I have to take a nap.
Then I wake up and I'm good again.
It hasn't always been this way.
I used to be a lot worse off.
But something that has been happening is that I have these weird throat thumps (feels like a painless spasm) underneath my thyroid.) triggered by stress.
i have this combo but i also have leaky gut, so yeah... a long way to recovery
So I was hospitalized and during that stay they found spots on my adrenal glands. They found spots more then just there also. So would they spots ony adrenal glands cause all these symptoms? They are leaning towards me having lymphoma cancer and that's what the spots are. I have every symptom on your adrenal fatigue list and almost every symptom on the thyroid list except for cold tolerance. I seem to be the opposite. I'm hot all the time and almost never cold.
How do you convince your doctor to check your Cortisol levels. A lot of doctors will question what medical degree you have.
I have the symptoms of both sides but I don't have fatigue I'm just always energizing and wired.
I have no pituitary gland function so I have adrenal insufficiency as well as hypothyroidism. I get these two confused all the time because the symptoms are so similar. This may be out of your wheelhouse, but can you do a video to address issues facing those of us with hypothyroidism, as well as full-fledged adrenal insufficiency? it can be very confusing. I may think I need to updose my steroid when it’s really thyroid levels that are low. Furthermore, the electrolyte imbalances are confusing. My Sheehan’s support group suggests we do better in the upper third of normal T3. I know I feel absolutely miserable and unable to function in the lower quarter.
Is there the same kind of connection,needing adrenal support in the opposite condition of hyperthyroidism?
I have the exact symptoms that you described at the end of the video. Which one of your supplements would you suggest for this? I am not on any thyroid medication or any medications for that matter. I am also breastfeeding. Thank you!
Did you ever figure this out?
Well I check off all the symptoms for both. Brain fog and shaking when I yawn scares me. I have started taking benfotiamine and the shaking has stopped after 1 week. So I will get the tests asap!
I have shaky hands and sometimes inward tremors. Could this be related to the adrenal issue
I have both and don’t feel better no matter what I do.. I’m on t3 and Np Thyroid plus have high cortisol..
Same here I take t3, Armour, and an Adrenal supplement and I'm feel extreme fatigue, weight gain, and most of all those symptoms. Just ordered Dr. Childs leptin supplement to throw into the equation. Not sure what can help my condition
@@candygirl2131 low carb diet
Candy Girl it’s really a miserable disease to hav two live with.. I see all of these people that get better and wish I could as well 😭😭
The therapies and supplements for high cortisol are somewhat different from normal to low cortisol. You can find more info here: www.restartmed.com/adrenal-fatigue-supplements/
Dr. Westin Childs thank you 😊
Thank you
Thanks for al your info Doc.... on the 'sense of humor' side... when I click on your videos t first glance your chair looks like your hair☺☺☺
Ok I’m at my wits end I have some of these and other strange symptoms I’ve been unable to work for over 2 years and I need help.
I wish you were practicing in Sydney Australia 😕
If someone is low on minerals should they try trace minerals
I have most of these symptoms. I tend to feel like I'm too warm all the time, including winter. The dry skin and hair loss ...bummer. I have anxiety and depression. Though I've had gaiters, I'm told my thyroid is fine. What? Doesn't make sense. Also, my extended family has thyroid problems.
You mentioned "... checking your serum cortisol in the morning..." Does that mean there's a home kit for this?
I feel like i have a combo of both sx. My TSH was
Thanks for sharing! Love your videos, they are very helpful! I had graves, regret RAI, and I have multiple symptoms that cross over prob cause of not having thyroid. Would I have to take supplements to fix the adrenals forever or temporarily? I’m going to order several of your supplements but I’m unsure of how long to take them for. The hair loss supplements, do I take them forever? Like gutbom for weight loss, if I stop taking it will the weight come back etc. Thanks!
If I stop my supplements the weight comes back along with weak nails
@@AP-nx6xo That just happens if you take the man made chemical isolate ie "Vitamins and Minerals" or the ones that are compounds isolated from herbs without their other constituents and buffers. If you take WHOLE herbs as grown in Nature, you'll actually heal. However you have to stop eating the foods that caused your problems to begin with- at least through the healing period and be on a clean diet.
Not 34 months 3/4 months
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I thought people with weak adrenals had salt cravings. People who crave sugar haven't eaten enough raw whole fruit during the day. Eat 10-12 servings of fruit during the day and you won't crave sweets at night.
Why would you be reliant on caffeine if you have anxiety and can’t handle stress? Makes no sense
Realize this is an older video although hope for insight...when I started taking desiccated thyroid (DT) I ended up COLDER. Started taking DT when TSH was 3.7 w/ low FT4. This was roughly 1 year after experiencing significant life stressors: menopause, loss of parents, husband in hospital (recovered thank heavens), loss of high paying job. Fast forward to 6 months of doing nothing yet feeling cold all the time and TSH that kept going up with no change in FT4 or FT3. I thought surely I was becoming hypothyroid. Took DT (ordered online) and became cold and blood pressure went up vs. down. At a loss and after research including Dr. Childs, I decided to try adrenal cortex and ended up WARM and blood pressure came down. QUESTION: Can low adrenal function cause a falsely elevated TSH? When I was tested for cortisol with a 1mg Dexa challenge and had TSH tested same morning (next morning) my TSH went from 3.7 to .89. The night I took low dose Dexa was the first time I slept well and woke up easily in months. I don't appear to have Addison's.
Look at your supplements for B7 Biotin. They don't affect your thyroid function, but they will affect your thyroid test results and produce false readings. I don't remember exactly how, yet you can look up videos that will tell you. Lol, this channel may have it!
Dr. Westin, I was diagnosed with Hashimoto's disease. TPOS are 1000iu at the moment. Free T3 and T4 are normal. TSH is at 3.0 uU/ml. I have symptoms of adrenal fatigue. I haven't been given any medication. I have tried going gluten free with no success. What should I do?
Dr do urine test not blood
Could you tell me what supplements to buy for adrenal fatigue. I’m taking selenium , zinc and b12 for hypothyroid. It’s helping me lose weight and my nails are growing in stronger Thanks
Hello Dr Childs,tnank you for the good and clear info,I will request my Dr for cortisol test,my TSH is high,T3 is high, T4 is low.
According to you info I probably have adrenal isues.
I suffer with hypothyroidism for 20 years and and diagnosed with Hashimotos 3 years ago.
If my TSH is hight then my Thyroid is not working properly so the antibodies are atacking the Thyiroid.
I'm taking Armour 90 mg,and I still have Thyiroid problems,anxiaty,stress irritability,brain fog,difficult loosing weight.
It could be that I need to address the adrenals first.
I have been alternating the meds daily from 90 to 75 mlg Is been Olmos two months! I felt better.
My Dr says he cannot prescribe Armour with other meds.
I hope I can address the adrenals and take less meds or get off the meds.
Thank you so much for your info,support and hard work!
Patient looking for answers and doing something about it as you suggested!
Sandra.
Ii have both need a endocrine doctor so cal
Thank you for past video of thyroid recall video I went on armour thyroid one month ago omg whole body joints locked up in severe pain and total fatique stopped taking last wed message into Drs office hope to get something to take tomorrow joints okay now think I'm allergic to pork any suggestions for med
How do we check our cortisol serum? I feel like I missed it :)
Would these issues also cause raised creatine levels?
Creative is related to kidney, good Q.
Only now seeing this video, because only now I've just found out I have hypothyroidism. All my symptoms are on the hypothyroid side, apart from one. I constantly crave carbohydrates, and I am constantly mega hungry. I don't crave sweet stuff. It might sound crazy, but I crave pototatoes, and parsnip. That sort of thing. I do sometimes crave pasties, or pies, but I will only eat whole foods. My hunger is driving me crazy. My GP has done a cortisol test, and my cortisol was normal. Obviously he does the test the traditional way of a GP. So like I said, it was normal. So is that enough to rule out poor adrenal function?
im in the UK was diagnosed with underactive thyroid 10 years ago and currently on 200 micrograms thyroxine my lifes a mess initally i gained weight with all the usual symptoms once on my meds that fixed itself howver last couple of years ive lost weight despite doctor telling me my doze id correct my mood is beyond low my anxiety is through the roof its horrid i was also told i have vitamin B12 deficencey and im aneamic the meds for those both made me sick as a dog so had to stop taking them im 44 and i think im going through change not had a period in around 5 months yet ive always been regular with my cycle im having serious hot flushes etc this was age my mother went through it jeezo being a female sucks
Hi Dr Childs I do not have a thyroid and I’m taking NP Thyroid split dose. I also have adrenal fatigue or adrenal insufficiency- My FT3 is in upper range of normal . I’m very tired in the morning and I wake up alert approx 3:30 AM
IM Taking Adrenotone in the AM and in the afternoon . I’m having difficulty keeping my FT3 optimal while struggling with adrenal fatigue . I also have brain fog. How can I heal my adrenals (normal cortisol curve throughout the day as I’m taking NDT at the same time since I do not have a thyroid? I’m afraid to take less NDT since I need thyroid to think. I’m experiencing joint pain with low cortisol. and brain fog and waking up at 3:30 AM alert and exhausted at 7AM when I need to wake up for work
Thank you!! Diane