Is a Cheap SUV better than a Polaris SXS? Expedition vs RZR
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You’d be amazed what a vehicle is capable of when you don’t care about it 😂
I've always said anything is an off-road vehicle when you don't care about resale.
Tell me about it, 😂, when i was driving on the mountains the company's car was like a wild animal on my hands. Passengers was frozen by terror but i managed to climb with steering surgeon precise and bunny hops moderate fast, they didn't had the time to jump out of the car. Once the boss got out of the car to see the car sitting on the frame over a cliff, i dared to jump from backseat and drift the car up to the mountain. It's important to search for tire friction with gas pedal and have a good feeling of steering and suspension to lift the car where is needed. Offcourse there are moments when its too much, for example on a vertical climb on a fire zone with loose rocks of the size of a foodball there was no turning back and even worse at the and an S curve. There was where tires smoked on loose rocks in two fast moves of the steering it was like quick sand but with rocks. Maybe it's because I'm a car mechanic and i feel better the machine.
@@user-xd3ij7cw8s That was poetry, brother...
@@retromodernart4426 Agreed. Very good for an elementary student.
@@retromodernart4426 I had to confess somewhere my offroad shenanigans.😂. Anyway, thank you very much
Craig is that buddy you had as a kid that was 100% up for all the hair-brained schemes you could come up with (and giggle like a madman the entire time) 😁
ps theres a trick, when your tire is in the air you need to apply the brakes a bit and it will force the diff to transfer power to the tire with grip. (or....just weld the diffs and be done with it😂)
PPs happy easter guys 🙏
I was that buddy, and it cost me a lot of money braincells and cartilage😂. Not so sure it was worth it but it sure seemed like it back then. I know I at least gave my buddies some good laughs and memories😜.
Says "yeah im in!" before you can even finish saying what you're about to do
😂😂😂
Craig: “Can we swap vehicles? I’m really cold & wet.”
No Creg, you cannot. You’ll dirty the warm & clean upholstery 😂
Yeah he would have gotten it all dirty
Can we get Craig a heated vest at least...
@@dougsrosen probably best not to what with all the water. He’ll have to stay cold. For his own safety.
Would love to see you modify the SUV to make it more like a side by side (mostly just needs weight reduction) and see how it compares.
Yep take all the doors, spare seats and glass out of it and put a lift kit on it and it could have potential
nahhh
I would cut off the rear behind the axel for weight reduction and maneuverability. Then cut half the doors so that the stereo still works and most of the water will stay out.
I think, leave the body alone. That thing is partially held together by the body.
great idea
There's children in Africa who could be eating this truck 😂
The etheopian poster child would eat as well
14:39 "It looks like a Dave" is literally perfect. "Hi, I'm Dave!" was how Ford design chief Peter Horbury described their US design strategy back in 2006.
My name is SuperDave Crowder. Cool name for your SUV. Just saying.
You should try this again using a 90’s Suzuki Samurai. Word is a lot of people used these as side by sides before side by sides were a thing.
I had one (Rolled it). I can attest that they are amazing until someone is doing 52 MPH on the highway and there’s is no amount of clear space that will be enough for you to pass. Mine used to have Les Schwab Grand Am highway tires and would go places that lifted trucks couldn’t and float across the top of the mud pits that would give the big trucks difficultly. So much fun, and the horn sounded just like the commercials! Beep Beep - Hi!
Stock they were something like a 22 second quarter mile….
Just a regular old CJ Jeep was also a very popular "substitute" for a SXS, before SXS came into existence.
@@straybullitt ehhh samurai is better and more sxs sized
Had several sammy’s they are great and very trail capable
This was great, I'd love to see more content with it. Maybe weld up the rear diff and some weight saving mods like removing the front fenders, doors, hatch, most of the interior other than the front seats. Now you are left with essentially a giant side by side, haha.
Maybe an air locker and compressor instead and it would mean that you can air down the tires as well.
Just want you to know this is my favorite show. I've become a more experienced rider, I ride safer and enjoy it a lot. Most importantly my life has turned around significantly since I have started praying and going to church when I can. Please don't ever stop making such awesome content.
Good for you for proclaiming the ressurection
A stripped short wheel base suv would have been great!!!!
Thanks for takin us along Sean and Craig and to the whole BnB crew, Happy Easter!
I did something similar with a 94 K1500 Blazer. I decided that I liked it, so I went full out with the RZR and ATV's. I found that I VASTLY preferred the Blazer, didn't get muddy, stayed cool, stayed warm, didn't have to trailer it to the park. Was awesome.
If you look at the chassis of the expedition it's actually built really tough and has near perfect 50/50 weight balance. Believe 3.73 gears and limited slip are stock. Pretty decent off roader surprisingly
Yea the 35s he added hurt his climbing ability a good bit.
The 3.73 and the limited slip are standard only on the SSV (special service vehicle). I also have one of them and they are like a beast!
I like how Sean wore his helmet in the big SUV for the entire episode. 😆😅🤣
Happy Easter, guys!
I used to off-road an old Explorer with no fenders and 35x12.5 tires. It would go anywhere I pointed it. It ended up with no rear cab behind the back doors. I miss that old thing but the cost of an off-road recovery in my area kept me from driving to its full potential
The old Thornbird tires knobs rubbed the frame so bad it polished the steel beautifully lol
I remember when going on the trails used to be a cheap and fun time. We would get a dirt bike cheap or find a Honda Odyssey ATV (not the minivan lol) for $1000 . They have a built in roll cage and trust me we needed that.
Man i love watching you two! You guys work fantastic together! You guys have such a chemistry!! Another great video
This video was great! For me, the best part was the Easter message. Thanks for being bold and sharing your faith! Today is Friday...but Sunday's comin'!
What you need is a Suzuki Samurai or even the later model Sidekick. Very capable off road vehicles with little to no modifications.
Had 33's on a "Vitara"(sidekick) and a front locker. The thing was a weapon off road for sure. Also recovered some other heavier vehicles over the years too 😅
Jeep
There's a show called flipping bangers they do a samurai and it's just a train off road. Not fast, not flash, but just does not die
Next time when ur having traction issues,keep your foot on the brake to stop the free spinning tire,to put the torque on the other tire
I absolutely love that expedition especially with the tires id drive that daily with a smile 😁 you guys RULE!
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Hey Craig, pretty sure you can tilt the steering wheel down in the RZR unless you like the semi truck feel.
The Expedition is a seriously underrated off roader. And the fact that the pre-2015 ones have the 3V 5.4 (which is a good engine if you maintain it) they're pretty cheap too.
I picked up a 2012 fully loaded for $4800.
not an expedition story, but i was able to get a hold of a 90 4runner with 239,xxx kilometers on the motor and with a little body rust and no frame rust its basically a heated side by side, a honda civic current gen is bigger then my 4runner, i got a steal for it at 2300$ CAD
im also curious into maybe buying a newer expedition for the family to go around in as a daily, and use the 4runner for an offroader, is it pretty capable in all conditions ie 4 seasons?
you are 100% correct about country folk i grew up here in Australia driving in paddocks and then getting a 4x4 when i was 16 . just a tip next time try to put the hand/park brake on a little it can help sometimes by slowing the spinning wheel down and forcing some power to the wheel with traction. ie it try's to turn your diff into a lsd type situation . love your vids guys keep it up
That’s how most modern 4x4 traction control works. Braking the spinning wheel to create some lock
This theory is exactly how I bought my 1965 jeep cj5. Originally started looking for a side by side, now iv got a jeep I take to car shows because it’s all done up and everyone loves it. Still have less in it then a moderate side by side and I have just as much fun 😅
Cool test and demo video. A great sequel to this episode would be to make a DIY RZR/edition, by removing all the doors, back seats, and unnecessary weight from the expedition, then running the test again. I would believe 1000pds lighter would have a different result in the drag race.
I have been telling my buddies this is the way to go for a couple years now! Looks like an absolute blast for cheap! Great video
You guys are crushing it, much respect👊👍
12:00 That is what you call an open diff. A Posi-traction diff would have both tires turning.
If the Ford had the proper ABS system, the brakes most likely would apply on the side of the spinning tire resulting in the power going to the tire with traction. A cheap but effective way of power distribution to a open diff. Next time try a Subaru!
I love the video but I don’t know how many people can find a $1200 4x4 expedition. I think it’s ok to up the ante a little and get a 2000 blazer 4x4 which anyone anywhere can get for $2,500. Another even better option for only slightly more would be a 2004-7 landrover LR3 which can be bought for 3000-3500 in decent shape. Take the doors off those and you have a side by side killer.
I've always had the same mentality. A good older jeep or old explorer would be as good as the 15+ thousand dollar sxs. I'm glad you guys proved this idea. Great video, God Bless.
Don't worry. I'm from Africa and am only moderately upset that we couldn't nibble on it.
What a cool thing to do. I wish I had something I could just beat on... even if I bought something just for that, I'd still find myself babying it. I live vicariously through you guys. Looks like a blast.
"Its so foggy, the crows are walking..."
That's such a great folksy saying. Reminds me of my grandpa from Nebraska
Fun vid, guys, and thanks for the shoutout about Easter and the gospel!
You’re an amazing human Shawn!! What you did for hillbilly last night was truly amazing and you sir top tier in my book!! Thank you for being awesome!
I love this channel this is what made me love bikes and all the fun stuff in dirt and mud or on the road Shawn your an inspiration
Awesome Easter testimonial!
A lot of people dont know it, but expeditions were used on an artic expedition. They did quite well.
Shawn and your team are awesome. God bless you all.
I have a 2010 suburu impreza sporti am about to start turning into a street legal go kart essentually. My wife wants me to sell it instead for like $1500. Thanks for this video bc it is going to help show her why keeping it as a toy is worth it.
Also, love how you consistantly give the Lord the glory. Great role model for the kiddos. Keep up the good work bro🤙
Binge watching this channel I love it! Remove your seatbelt when off-roading next time especialy in mud if that polaris flipped in mud it can get dangerous.
Much love and respect!
Happy Easter Guys ,God has blessed us all !
Love to see car content! Maybe a lift kit in the future?
The side by side is always going to have the advantage over a full size vehicle off road because of it's smaller size and lighter weight. Just like an a quad will be able to outdo a side by side and a dirt bike will be able to outdo a quad.
When you are in a situation where one rear wheel is spinning, apply the parking brake while holding the brake realese to be able to modulate it. This is a trick to stop the one rear wheel from spinning if you don't have a limited slip.
Really amazing to see how well the Expy did in the mud and trails. The whole time I was watching I thought “man if that was in Florida I’d love that truck!” We don’t have inspections here and I was floored to see how cheap you got that for. I’ve got an 06 Vulcan 750 I’ll trade ya for it if you get that back window fixed! 😂
There's no way he bought that for $1200
Sean doesn’t Lie.
@@joeybobbie1 find a Honda pilot that runs and drives for sale for $1200 and send me the link. Not gonna happen
@@rayamat01 He didn’t Buy a Honda Pilot! What are you talking about. If Sean’s Videos annoy you, there’s plenty of others you can watch!
I'd love to see this series continue - a few budget mods, like the winches and lincoln locker mentioned, plus a ~3" lift and some skid plates. Maybe a bit of weight reduction, although I doubt you'll find much while keeping it somewhat comfortable and dry.
Just a reminder that limited slip diffs or posi are not meant for off-road they are meant for traction on road. As soon as you lift a wheel, it acts as an open diff. If both wheels are on the ground and there is slip then the clutches in the limited slip diff do their thing and lock up both axle shafts. That’s why electronic/pneumatic locking differential or just straight up locked are a must have for wheeling
Having a great 4X4 and a sidexside, I still prefer the sidexside. It seems more fun because you can hang out the side and look at the wheels, plus you are more exposed which seems to be more fun. And they are more offroady!
I used to have a 1999 Jeep xj. I bought it for a few thousand bucks and then dumped about 4 grand into parts. I would keep up and have lots of fun in the trails with my friends in their side x sides.
Was about to say they bought the WRONG vehicle…Should have got a XJ
I hate traction control....great vid!
at about 20 minutes into the video, use the breaks in the ford as you try and go forward to divert power from the wheels in the air to the wheels on the ground
Here in Florida, The expedition with only 80,000 mi would be worth at least $6k
No way you paid 1200 for that truck with 80k miles 😂
i believe he said it was a police car so that might make sense
18:25 tyre was spinning. You should tie up a nylon rope on your both front tyres for more grip.
what good times you guys have. Would give a lot of have such a solid group of friends. Thanks for sharing
Appreciate the creativity in every video, always a fun watch - sending love from Australia!
I wanted a SXS but cant afford one so i got a 87 Chevy K10 for $3k and i beat the snot out of it in the sand dunes. Works so great! 4x4 and v8 with windows and heater is nice
silver lake dunes?
That's just impressive that you found a running square body for 3K! Nice find.
@@justinnykamp haha i wish.. no Moses lake sand dunes in WA.
My 2021 Silverado was cheaper than some SXSs
Can Craig drive on highway? Wins a win!
Love this series man keep up the great content
In most states the massive advantage of any suv or truck over a side-by-side is that it can go on the road without a trailer. But also you can find 4x4 vehicles for just a few thousand… and sxs are crazy expensive in many cases. I’d rather own a cheap, old, street legal 4x4 over a specialty off road thing that needed to be trailered around. You can buy something like a Suzuki samurai for like 5k and it’s actually just as small as a sxs and with a little lift and some tires it’s capable.
This was another fun one. I’ve got a similar vehicle combo at the ranch. Older expedition but with proper 4wd, not AWD. Helps quite a bit. However the Polaris Ranger xp1000 will beat it in every aspect except creature comforts and towing capacity.
And # of seats, hp, size, in a wreck(except rollover), tug o war...
You should disable the revv limiter and just hold the throttle down to the floor when it is ice cold and hasn't warmed up even the slightest. Either vehicle will do.
Enjoyed the video and have been considering this same subject for my next project. I would rather have seen a similarly sized suv vs a sxs.... like a liberty, tracker, samurai, etc...
God bless you guys ,for preaching on you channel!
That SxS should’ve climbed that steep hill easily. Looks like he was only in 2WD. I’ve seen them climb some crazy obstacles so that hill shouldn’t have slowed you down. Just be sure to put in 4wd low for those types of climbs.
Definitely looked like 2x4 on the rzr. They didn’t get anywhere close to what the rzr is capable of in 4x4.
I love that you share the story of Easter man, praise up and love the vids
I just got Lexus RX300 awd and it does so good off road its crazy. I put air mattress in back of it and have went camping with it. Has roof rack and light bar on front bumper lol
This is awesome guys. Keep it up!
Jesus was raised from the dead by his God. We can have hope in resurrection as well. Sorry Sean but no one spends eternity in heaven. Scripture says the meek shall inherit the earth.
Meek mill inherits the earth in the Bible????? I might have to tear that one time!!
If you could rip apart the expedition and modify it to be fit to go off-roading it would be awesome!!
However, good videos and I love it! ❤️🔥
@20:25 If it was opposite the wrong tires would still spin, power is going through the path of least resistance with a standard differential
U guy's remind me of my younger days when me and my buddy's were up for anything. Looks like a lot of fun. Stay safe and God be with you alway's. Thanks for the video. Have a great Easter.
So much fun to watch these guys having great adventures!
I have that same expedition and the same rust. When the tow hook fell off made me think I better not get stuck.
This was a FUN video! 🤠
I totally get what the boys are getting at. Years back I had a pretty nice SxS, life changed and I had to sell it. Well I eventually replaced it with an old wrangler.
For pure off-roading or inclement weather wheeling, the SxS to me, felt much more confidence inspiring. Odd considering the SxS cost like $10k more, I really didn’t care to much if something happened to the SxS.
Lovely to come back home on a Friday afternoon, and sit back and watch another episone of Cars and Beards. JK, you're awesome no matter what you're driving.
Happy Good Friday and upcoming Easter Sean! I had a great time at Holy Thursday mass yesterday. God bless and keep up the great work!
Y'all are such an awesome channel! Involving all my favorite things, off-roading, motorcycles, JESUS!!!
Also y'all should definitely modify "Dave" and make him better gooder!
Great to see that Brad is still doin it
That's a really clean expedition for 1200 bucks jesus.
Oh boy something good to watch when I get out of work thanks guys
maybe you should've done this around christmas, when it was COLD in pa.the ford heater wouldve made it an instant winner.
Good stuff Craig makes a show🔥🔥
My grandpa has a really old Ford Explorer that’s literally unstoppable he drives it through mud over stumps in tall grass and pulls trailers and pulls vehicles out with it. Ford are just amazingly capable
it looks like the former mining area up by scranton.if so thats a hell of a ride to test 4X4's.even from lancaster.
Great episode gentlemen!! Happy Easter to everyone💚💙
Hey! As an LDS man thank you for the content you put out. Love it!
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Great vid
Drag the e brake to help engage both rear wheels
Sean: *Totals his car*
Also Sean: “it’ll buff out”
Cheap SUV vs SxS I always pick my suv in the winter because it’s allot warmer and more comfortable is the SxS more capable in tight trails yes but I just avoid them in the jeep while I have my heated seats and creature comforts….is the SxS more fun absolutely!!
Another great video guys! I'm a rider and love offroad as well! I used to own a 2002 Eddie Bauer expedition and it was a tank offroad for its size! What's the location of those trails in from PA and would love to go there!
21:51 very beautiful message. God bless you 💕
Hope you had a wonderful Easter! Great video
Great video. Loved the Good Friday explanation. Keep it up.