DON'T Buy A Ford F150 Lightning Before You Watch This!

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  • čas přidán 15. 06. 2024

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  • @GONAVYCHIEF
    @GONAVYCHIEF Před měsícem +14

    I started out with a Model S and my wife had a Model Y. Now we both have Lightnings, so I already had a charger. On a day-to-day basis that's all we use. we pay about .13 cents a kwh. I can tell you it cost me $140.00 to fill my Eco Boost F150 when I owned it. I don't miss that at all. When I'm driving long distance like from my home in Northern Nevada to Las Vegas I charge to 100% in Winnemucca at my home, I charge 3 times for relatively short periods of time. 15 to 20 minutes. Taking bathroom breaks and have snack or something to drink. I traveled 477 miles and only dropped to 90 miles range on the Tonopah to Vegas leg which is just over 200 miles. I drove between 65 and 75 MPH for most of the trip keeping my usage between 1.8 and 2.2 m/kwh. I only haul hay with my trailer. and I get 1.8 miles per kwhr towing. I do use Tesla chargers frequently because Electrify America gets backed up here in Nevada. Using A2Z also. Best truck I have ever owned. In my case it's saving me a lot of money. I have the Blue Oval Account, a Tesla account and the Electrify America account. Having the EA and Tesla accounts will save you money if you do fast DC charging. Great video. Thank you.

    • @Thingswithwheels1
      @Thingswithwheels1  Před měsícem +1

      You make great points and I appreciate you watching!

    • @JimSpence
      @JimSpence Před 28 dny +3

      We had first gen rwd lr model 3; then lr model y… now lr lariat lightning…. Best ever. We’re at 8cents kWh here. Also have VW EA plan for a few years. The LARIAT ER DOES COME WITH 80A L2 charger!

  • @edwash341
    @edwash341 Před měsícem +1

    Thank you so much!! You have the most honest answers to the EV market especially with this standard range model. Always go for the max battery if it fits your budget. 👍

    • @Thingswithwheels1
      @Thingswithwheels1  Před měsícem +1

      I appreciate you watching! Stay tuned for more videos soon!

  • @despec_mining
    @despec_mining Před 26 dny +3

    Great informative, honest video. Had my extended range for over 16mths now and i love it.

    • @Thingswithwheels1
      @Thingswithwheels1  Před 26 dny

      Thanks for watching!

    • @michaeljordan6090
      @michaeljordan6090 Před 24 dny

      What are you getting for range with the extended range

    • @patriotone755
      @patriotone755 Před 21 dnem

      Not according to our current government/regime. They want total control and taxing you all the way. Bidenomics is killing our country.

  • @matthewholzmueller6292
    @matthewholzmueller6292 Před měsícem +6

    Fair video. I don't recommend getting anything but the extended range because of the points you've made. Also if you shop around now deals are around for extended range. I got my 23 xlt ER leftover for 20k off of sticker!

    • @Thingswithwheels1
      @Thingswithwheels1  Před 29 dny

      For my needs the standard range truck was the right call, but particularly for people who will use it as their only vehicle I totally agree with you. Great points and thank you for watching!

    • @roydelpozo4816
      @roydelpozo4816 Před 24 dny +2

      Same . I got a 23 that had been sitting in a lot in Texas for 11 months for 20 K off +3.9 financing. There is no way in hell that I could live with a small battery as everything from me as at least 100 miles. That means 200 miles round-trip and unfortunately I hate driving slow as our roads here in Oklahoma are 80 miles an hour or 75 depending on if it’s a country road or an interstate. I have only towed a trailer twice at 55 miles an hour around 8000 pounds and the range would’ve been about 120 miles which is unacceptable to me. Thanks God it was only for about 30 miles. So I got to return home to my plug. I did put close to 2000 pounds worth of payload in the back and the range seemed unaffected. It was aerodynamic and I closed my bed cover so that helped a lot.

    • @matthewholzmueller6292
      @matthewholzmueller6292 Před 24 dny

      @@roydelpozo4816 wow you are brave! I have a 15 mile commute, live outside of Philadelphia and drive to the Chesapeake Bay (70mile) and I don't tow.

  • @arecibo1974
    @arecibo1974 Před 29 dny

    I’m 100% happy with my 2023 Pro standard range w pro power onboard 🤩👍🏼.
    You provided good information about the reality on this truck .

  • @joevigil5274
    @joevigil5274 Před měsícem +1

    Great video explaining range points to consider. All very valid points. This analysis is for a std range battery but an extended range battery is available and yes for a premium but lessens these range detractors if your use case so demands. 320mi extended range battery with the same basic detractors offers 25% more utility.

    • @Thingswithwheels1
      @Thingswithwheels1  Před měsícem +1

      You are 100% correct. I elected to go standard range because I needed the additional payload (2300 lbs vs 1700 lbs in an ER roughly) because of the additional battery weight in the ER. Either way it's a fabulous truck but the best ownership experience is had by going in eyes wide open. Thanks so much for watching!

  • @officialyasir
    @officialyasir Před 15 hodinami

    Thanks for keeping it real! Subbed!

  • @philparks2589
    @philparks2589 Před 26 dny +1

    Good points. Notr, Just got home from a 6600 mile road trip in 26 western states. Paid between $0.17 to $0.72 per kw. Ave about $0.40/kw. Ave eff was 2.3kw/mile. Cost about $0.167/Mile. No range anxiety but charger anxiety for sure. Tesla access was a game changer. Like you, charge at home on solar. My 23 XLT did come with a 80 amp Ford home charger. Thanks

  • @kerrykoch6821
    @kerrykoch6821 Před 25 dny +1

    You make some good points in the video. I also have the F150 Lightning, and I love this vehicle. You forgot to mention the departure time feature. This will allow the truck to either cool or warm the cabin using the AC power rather than the battery. Also, as far as towing, I have a 2k pound landscape trailer that I use and yes the range was cut in half, but the truck learns overtime and recalculates the mileage. Just the other day, I traveled 20 miles with my trailer and the estimated miles never moved.

    • @Thingswithwheels1
      @Thingswithwheels1  Před 25 dny

      You make great points for sure. Nothing is better than prepping the cabin for departure while still plugged in! Thank you for watching.

  • @Tom-om7yh
    @Tom-om7yh Před 27 dny +1

    I own the same truck and I 100% agree with what he says. I love the truck and it fits my needs. I also love the fact that it drives like a Cadillac and not an empty bed leaf suspension pick up :D

  • @jeff96762
    @jeff96762 Před 27 dny +1

    Great honesty. EV is not for everyone. But if it works for you the drive is amazing!! On any drive, it has twice the get up and go of an ICE truck! And at about 1/3 of the operating cost. What a deal. If you do a lot of distance driving and towing, stay with ICE. Just know the drive is amazing!!

  • @markkiner2484
    @markkiner2484 Před 26 dny

    Great video, totally agree about having a home charging setup. We own a Rivian R1T and are patiently waiting (how long?) for the Tesla adapter so we can use it on long trips. Rivian network is small, so we also use EA, EVGo…etc. to get us to our destination.

    • @Thingswithwheels1
      @Thingswithwheels1  Před 26 dny

      Thanks for watching! The adaptor for Tesla charging is life changing!

  • @ThunderandLightningEvPickup

    Excellent information. Just a couple more days and I will have my lightning pro. Mine was actually cheap cheaper than every other truck I could find including the Ford maverick. I’ve purchased a used Ford lightning pro with the same standard battery pack. It had 11,000 miles on it certified preowned from Ford purchased for 36,000+ taxes and fee fees.

    • @Thingswithwheels1
      @Thingswithwheels1  Před měsícem +1

      That's a fantastic buy! Tune in for more Lightning content and reach out if I can offer you assistance! I'll be reviewing my A2Z adaptor soon! Stay tuned and thanks for watching

    • @ThunderandLightningEvPickup
      @ThunderandLightningEvPickup Před 24 dny

      @@Thingswithwheels1 locked in. I hit the subscribe button pretty quickly can’t get enough lightning, especially as I wait for mine.

    • @Thingswithwheels1
      @Thingswithwheels1  Před 24 dny

      @Silverado_EV_ChEVy_Avalanche I have a lot more planned for the channel. If you have any specific videos you want to see feel free to post them in the comments. All the best with your new truck, you will love it!

  • @chriscobb148
    @chriscobb148 Před dnem

    note, the 2024 models only come in 20' and 22' wheels. IMHO, you shouldn't buy the standard range for exactly what was noted. You'll only charge to 90/80% and having that gives you 279/248 vs 216/192. Further, I completely agree. You shouldn't buy an EV without a home charger and a garage. When inclement weather happens, you'll still be able to charge in a garage.

    • @Thingswithwheels1
      @Thingswithwheels1  Před dnem

      @chriscobb148 you make good, reasonable points. I love my SR but it's not for everybody! Thank you for watching!

  • @nardoyxz
    @nardoyxz Před měsícem

    Could you place the link for the adapter here? Also, did you tow the trailer on the back? Do you have numbers for the trip or tips on towing,

    • @Thingswithwheels1
      @Thingswithwheels1  Před měsícem

      a2zevshop.com/collections/charging-adapters/products/nacs-ccs1?variant=43186507579592
      I do not have numbers on towing range, although I've been seeing other owners have significantly reduced range when towing.
      Hope that link helps. Stay tuned and subscribe, I plan to do a review on the adaptor and it's use with my Lightning soon!

  • @JimSpence
    @JimSpence Před 28 dny +1

    Also, Ford’s automatic recalculation of range based on towing or driving history, for me, has been super accurate, within a few miles. Our Tesla never automatically adjusted that well, roughly about 30% off. We take road trips in our lightning all the time… no issue, just some planning.

  • @JeffKubel
    @JeffKubel Před 27 dny +1

    Is that stone gray? Does Ford give the adapter to you at point-of-sale now if you buy new?
    I'm cross shopping a Lightning Flash, PowerBoost Lariat, and a Cybertruck and am really torn. Been doing tons of research. Rented a Lightning XLT and test drove a Lariat. There's the truck I want, veses the truck I need.
    I currently tow with a Model 3 and with charging considerations (don't really want to charge beyond 80% like you mentioned it takes too long), my realistic range is about 70 miles between superchargers. That means I have stop about 4 times. I predict towing the same load with a Lighnting extended range would probably shave one or two stops off, so it's an improvement, but it's no Powerboost (0 stops).
    The real issue is V2L for use off-grid use. I ran the math and found the Lightning and Powerboost both would have roughly the same generator run endurance (assuming a full charge/tank, I can power a small cabin or RV for about 2 or 3 days, so great for weekend use), but the problem comes when you have to go in town to refill/recharge. 5 minutes vs 1.5 hours, so electric doesn't work well for extended trips.

    • @Thingswithwheels1
      @Thingswithwheels1  Před 27 dny

      The truck is Stone Gray. While it was initially my third choice, now that I've had it for a bit I love it because a: few F150s are that color and b: it truly never looks dirty!
      Ford does not give you the adapter at time of sale, they give you the ability to order one. When I bought my truck, the lead time was about 5 months from ordering the adaptor to its arrival which prompted me to buy the A2Z. I'll be publishing a review of that adaptor soon, and then will do a head-to-head comparison between them when I have both. Stay tuned and thank you for watching

  • @pstoneking3418
    @pstoneking3418 Před 24 dny

    I was fortunate when I purchased my lightning platinum that it came with the 120/240 volt charger and the 80 amp pro charger from sunrun at no extra cost.

  • @DaleStLouis-xb5mx
    @DaleStLouis-xb5mx Před 2 dny

    You kept saying "use case" and that's important. I am retired and rarely go 100 miles unless it's a road trip. Most days I am home all but 2-6 hours out of every 24. If I only have the cheap easy slow charging at home (110 extension cord??) and I can charge 14+ hours a day, will that take care of me other than rapid charges when I travel?

    • @Thingswithwheels1
      @Thingswithwheels1  Před dnem

      @DaleStLouis-xb5mx if you are on a 110v charger you'll likely add something around 25 miles of range during the time you're plugged in. For local running it's probably fine. However over time I think you'll find yourself wishing for faster home charging. The optional Ford charger contains the plugs for both 110v and 220v so you can start with 110v and then when you have a 220v outlet installed you simply attach the other connector and your charging speed multiplies. To put that in perspective, on 220v you would be able to 200+ miles of range in the same time it took you to get to 25 miles on the 110v outlet. I hope this helps and truly appreciate you tuning in!

  • @prerunnerwannabe
    @prerunnerwannabe Před měsícem +1

    Very informative video! Just FYI, the standard range Lightning is closer to 6000lbs, not 7 :)

    • @Thingswithwheels1
      @Thingswithwheels1  Před měsícem +1

      I stand corrected you are 100% right! Thank you for tuning in.

    • @wdbldr67
      @wdbldr67 Před měsícem +1

      Yes and extended is 6600.

    • @amandaadler1860
      @amandaadler1860 Před 29 dny +1

      I always thought it was 7000 also until I brought some scrap to the dump and realized with 1 adult inside it was just over 6000.

  • @pstoneking3418
    @pstoneking3418 Před 24 dny +1

    I definitely wouldn't have purchased my lightning if I had to depend on public chargers.
    So consequently, I wouldn't have purchased my lightning if I needed it to take long distance trips. The charging infrastructure just isn't there yet and as mentioned in this video the cost per kwh is just to expensive. When I'm not charging off solar I pay $.08/kwh in winter & $.12/kwh in the summer.

  • @wdbldr67
    @wdbldr67 Před měsícem +1

    All ev charging slows as the battery gets full the cells need time to balance. On range. First: don't go over the speed limit. Second sit back and enjoy. I purchased an ext range Lariat in March. Completed a road trip from N Utah to Durango CO, the Mesa Verde and back home through Moab, Scipio 1100 miles. So many elevation changes. Half the trip was freeway, 65 to 75 mph and highway 45 to 65 mph. Rated is 2.4 miles per kw for 320 miles rated. For the entire trip our efficiency was 2.4 miles per kw. If your rodding it and its hellafun to do, or 5 to 10 over the limit, you wont get rated. But driving like that No gas car does either. EPA tests at a max speed of 65mph. Oh and I pull the same efficiency from both Tesla's in that We get our rated most of the time and in winter it's only a 15-20% drop but they are all garaged.

  • @shawn2296
    @shawn2296 Před měsícem

    this is stuff no one talks about
    you are 100% right about the usable range of 70% out of the “100%”

    • @Thingswithwheels1
      @Thingswithwheels1  Před měsícem

      I appreciate it! Much more real world EV info coming soon!

  • @imtheonevanhalen1557
    @imtheonevanhalen1557 Před 28 dny

    2023 Pro owner with 19k miles. THE NUMBER ONE thing to know is YOU CANNOT drive it like an ICE vehicle if you want range. I bought it for efficiency, and get the complete range (and then some..) Ford advertised with the standard pack.
    My charge rate with Duke power home charging after midnight is $.11 k/h, and a quick trip to Lowes gets a 50 amp breaker, #6 awg close to the panel, and an outlet for less than $30.00..
    The best vehicle I have ever owned, and I'd do it again in a second!

    • @Thingswithwheels1
      @Thingswithwheels1  Před 27 dny

      You make great points! I consider efficiency to be like a game and drive to squeeze every millimeter out of a kW I can haha. I find the truck to be a true pleasure to drive and have fun in the process. Thanks for watching!

  • @roydelpozo4816
    @roydelpozo4816 Před 28 dny +1

    I still have my 2016 model s as it will die with me . Paid too much for it and it’s “worthless” currently. But with free supercharging it’s priceless to me . Love my f150 as a truck but the software sucks so bad ! So much lag and the nav is crap ! But as a truck it’s incredible! And I have 2.5 c per kw 11 pm to 5 am so fill ups dry to full cost less than 3 bucks! Amazing ! Love the truck but I would not travel with it . Charges to slow even compared to my 2016 . I have the “big battery” and the range is good for me . But if I ever traveled with it I would self navigate from Tesla to Tesla . The other net works just suck!

  • @user-pv6hk9pd5y
    @user-pv6hk9pd5y Před 7 dny

    I like that paint, is that gold? it's sharp. It will be a while before I go to an EV, but when I do it will be a Ford for sure. If there is something on the ford ev Lightning that I don't care for though, it would be the grill. It's just really boring or dull looking and too plasticy. =)

    • @Thingswithwheels1
      @Thingswithwheels1  Před 7 dny

      @user-pv6hk9pd5y the color is called Stone Gray, and depending upon the lighting it can appear anything from light metallic brown to medium metallic gray. I really like it. Also, I agree on the grill. I've seen some other guys that have painted theirs and it looks better, but I'm not mad enough at it to change it yet. Thanks so much for watching and stay tuned for more content!

  • @mksusa
    @mksusa Před 10 dny

    Great for around town and charging at home- worthless on going anyplace over 100 one way.

    • @Thingswithwheels1
      @Thingswithwheels1  Před 10 dny

      @mksusa great for around town and home charging, more challenging for highway trips of 300+ miles each way. That distance you can do stopping once to charge, and with access to the Tesla chargers it doesn't take long. Great truck. Thanks for watching.

  • @SpeedisSpeed
    @SpeedisSpeed Před 26 dny +1

    Don't worry, nobody is lol

  • @qbagcal
    @qbagcal Před 26 dny +1

    Thanks for the video and your honest review living with the Lighting.

  • @pstoneking3418
    @pstoneking3418 Před 24 dny

    Even better charge your lightning like I do whenever I have a sunny day which gives me enough excess solar energy to charge it. If it doesn't make it back to 85% then I wait for the next sunny day. Since my round trips into town are seldom more than 60 miles, I use 30 kwh or less. Usually no more than 3 trips a week, often less I have plenty of time to charge it back to 85%. On several really cloudy days I connect my truck to charge my solar batteries and run my home. My solar battery pack capacity is just 23 kwh so it doesn't take that long to charge my solar batteries to 100%. Since I only discharge my solar batteries to 30%, I've only used about 16-17 kwh.

    • @Thingswithwheels1
      @Thingswithwheels1  Před 23 dny

      @pstoneking3418 that's a great strategy. We have solar that routinely overproduces but we don't have batteries, yet.

  • @boomerjrtv1268
    @boomerjrtv1268 Před 29 dny +1

    Shhh it’s still efficient vs gas…

    • @Thingswithwheels1
      @Thingswithwheels1  Před 29 dny +1

      FAR more efficient. I absolutely love it and it costs me probably 25% of what it did to run my diesel 2500.

  • @timgurr1876
    @timgurr1876 Před 29 dny

    Thanks for the video. Informative and interesting. I seriously considered buying the Lightning when they were first taking orders. However, wanting to be able to tow my boat into Canada from just north of Minneapolis, I realized that the charging infrastructure did not exist (at that time) for making such a trip, especially when towing a 4500 pound boat and trailer. My reason for not supporting buying an EV at this time is the environmental destruction that is happening in mining and processing battery materials along with the fact that most of the battery material reserves have been bought up by China. The mining and processing of battery materials releases a significant amount of CO2 (which I am not personally concerned about) that overrides any reduction in CO2 from driving an EV for at least 100K miles. This whole push towards EV’s is not based on common sense that there will be a drastic reduction in CO2. Plus, I don’t buy into the mania that we are going to roast-to-death by 2050 if we don’t reduce CO2 emissions. CO2 levels have varied throughout history. CO2 levels were at least double of what they are today 1000 years ago. That level was not man-made from driving ICE vehicles (since they didn’t exist). CO2 represents approximately 0.04% of the earth’s atmosphere. Minuscule compared to oxygen and nitrogen.

    • @Thingswithwheels1
      @Thingswithwheels1  Před 29 dny

      You make good points and obviously have made an informed decision based upon your situation. EVs aren't for everyone and I appreciate you watching!

  • @ph7346
    @ph7346 Před 6 dny

    Within 20 seconds of the video you said you bought a SR. Enough said.

  • @NoonMight
    @NoonMight Před 12 dny

    Lightnings are only good for city/rural neighborhoods people. NOT for country/backroads kind of people. States like Oregon, Washington, Idaho, Montana, Utah, New Mexico should not own electric vehicles

    • @Thingswithwheels1
      @Thingswithwheels1  Před 12 dny

      @NoonMight that is certainly an opinion. I would think anybody who commutes under 75 miles each way to work and can home charge would do great with one of these, but home and or work charging is the key. Thanks for watching.

  • @koolaidmangiggity
    @koolaidmangiggity Před 27 dny

    electric seems ideal for a second vehical non daily driver truck.

    • @Thingswithwheels1
      @Thingswithwheels1  Před 26 dny

      It's ideal for a commuter every day so long as you can home or work charge! Super cheap to run! Thanks for watching.

  • @pstoneking3418
    @pstoneking3418 Před 24 dny

    EV'S certainly aren't for everyone.

  • @OriginalYTBR
    @OriginalYTBR Před 18 dny

    I dont mind it be an EV but stop making it look weird. The front end light stripe looks cheap.

    • @Thingswithwheels1
      @Thingswithwheels1  Před 18 dny

      @OriginalYTBR I actually bought the Lightning in part because it looks "normal" unlike the Cybertruck. But I respect your opinion and appreciate you tuning in!

  • @mrshopjulius5840
    @mrshopjulius5840 Před 20 dny

    I bought a Ford Lightning before I watched this I’m I going to turn gay now

  • @ilc-nl3yy
    @ilc-nl3yy Před 28 dny

    Hybrids make sense.

    • @Thingswithwheels1
      @Thingswithwheels1  Před 27 dny +1

      I think it depends on the use case, but I agree and it appears many automakers are swinging back in that direction. If I were to highway travel a lot I likely would have gone hybrid. Thanks for watching!

  • @keninhb2196
    @keninhb2196 Před 26 dny

    It isnt a truck. It looks like a truck, but it isnt one. I enjoyed the video, learned a couple things, but its not a truck.

  • @PraiseYAyoupeople
    @PraiseYAyoupeople Před 27 dny

    I tell everyone if you don't have a way to charge at home DO NOT buy EV. you will be a slave to public charging and waste of time.

    • @Thingswithwheels1
      @Thingswithwheels1  Před 27 dny

      100% the best value in an EV is home charging. Thanks for watching!

  • @sennewald
    @sennewald Před 28 dny

    Great Video - Perfect summary, very well described facts. I wish all EV haters would watch this honest description of the facts. Thank you!

    • @Thingswithwheels1
      @Thingswithwheels1  Před 28 dny

      I really appreciate that thank you. I tried to think of what I would want to know if I was thinking of a Lightning or even just an ev in general. More content on the way! Thank you for watching!

  • @aw9085
    @aw9085 Před 28 dny

    im really interested in a EV truck. would kill two birds with one stone... Have the truck for all the truck needs(the bed) i dont tow much. and have a commuter for work(30mi away). can also charge free at work

    • @Thingswithwheels1
      @Thingswithwheels1  Před 27 dny

      Free charging at work makes EVs a no brainer in my opinion. I would still install a level 2 charger at home too, and with that combination you're operating for literally pennies on the dollar compared to the gas counterpart. Thank you for watching!

  • @patriotone755
    @patriotone755 Před 21 dnem +1

    Today’s EV will depreciate very rapidly as the newer models get released with newer tech and higher range. We are one administration from EVs going bye bye. Try trading your EV in on a newer EV, this in of itself is scary. No EV for me ever.

    • @alfredtaylor7310
      @alfredtaylor7310 Před 19 dny

      When was the last time the oil companies said " hey lets give the American people a $ 1.00 a gallon discount" your a fool fool for the scumbag oil companies

    • @Thingswithwheels1
      @Thingswithwheels1  Před 19 dny

      @@patriotone755 I respect your opinion even if I don't agree with it. Thanks for watching.