New ARRMA Mojave 4S Fail Not The Video I Wanted Arrma Do Better Testing Before Sales !
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You need to test these in all conditions in the real world as these issues can be solved 💯I truly believe someone not doing there job correctly - Zábava
Thanks for the honest review! I run my RCs mostly in a dusty environment so this will definitely put the brakes on what was a highly anticipated purchase until Arrma addresses this issue. And no I'm not drilling out holes to see if that fixes a serious design flaw in a brand new $500.00 RC.
Yeah, after my first run my dad and I sat there for like 10 minutes trying to get the body off 🤣 but after a couple runs it seems to have broken in and it's not very hard anymore. Its not worth worrying about
Right it never be perfect and only close if you tune your rc for your environment, if you live in colder climates , shells aren’t a issue, as arrma designed rcs more arrow dynamic or sealed for dirt , heat going increase , RTR really just a starting point . Also manufactures are not gearing conservatively so they can impress you with high speed on the box .
@@SleekHobbies88 mine gets pretty warm, but doesn't overheat. And I live in the desert. It's been 95 degrees outside every time. And about the shell, it breaks in. It sucks that it's so hard the first few times, but it's fine now. Ran 2 packs today and there was almost no tension, at least not compared to the first and second time.
@@SleekHobbies88I live in Central Florida and I haven't had any issues with overheating on mine.
I wouldn't be too worried about it. I had issues getting mine off the first couple of times but it seems to self clearance pretty quickly and after the first few packs it's really not much of a problem anymore. Given that we're used to having to upgrade weak points on basically every new vehicle that comes out I don't think taking 5 seconds with a drill to slightly clearance those holes is really that big of a deal anyway.
I'd just sand the posts a little bit if it's that bad for you. For me, it resolved itself after the first few runs. Now it's still tight but it's not worth complaining about. Just wear it in.
Somehow your leaving comments saying the same thing on every one comments do you work for horizon?
Yeah, sand it a bit, that was what i was thinking.
@@earlmoorhead5555 no, I just know how to not complain over something so easily resolved 🤣 yeah it sucks it happens but it doesn't make the whole rig bad. Just some sandpaper on the posts. Maybe 3 minutes of your time
@@Krapper515 You should stick with "air soft" videos kid, and leave this to the grown ups. I understand that you made a few seconds long videos and now believe that you are an "influencer", but you couldn't carry water for Earl Moorhead son...
Sounds like a bunch of krap to me😂
When it comes to Arrma, the buyer is the tester. That's why they release so many versions of their rcs.
Yes and sometimes make changes and don’t say anything like the Kraton 8s with the chassis and control arm issues do a revision but sell all the junk ones and charge for an upgrade $25.00 without the radio and receiver just braces and just keep quiet we the ppl called it the 1.5 version Kraton 8s
Yes hold Arma development accoutable. Your large channel represents many of us RC owners! Thank you always for the Truth.
One of the best RC I ever own. It just sold out when it is launch. The suspension is excellent. Drive is real smooth and agile.
Hopefully this does get resolved soon. Yes, I could just sand it down, but as you've said, arrma should've tested and resolved it for us first. I'll have to see what's up once I get mine. Thanks for the honest review man 👍
Yes a little testing goes a long ways
Thanks for the honest review!
The control & handling seem awesome, power seems adequate, and the protective inner shell seems to toughen it up alot.
But thats an interesting find with the sand getting stuck in the inner shell pins preventing removal of the body. Seems like some rubber plugs in the bottom and/or foam-rubber washers on top of the inner posts would keep the sand out of there. Also slits down the side of the posts for sand drainage, even rubberized inner body posts, but something, anything that keeps it from getting stuck.
My whole reason for pre-ordering one was because it would be my first new ARRMA... One that I shouldn't have to do much to, maybe a quick diff & screw check while charging a lipo, then set endpoints, calibrate the ESC & go.
I was a little disappointed when horizon cancelled my pre-order, but afterwards figured I'd just support my Local Hobby Shop instead and not worry about shipping.
I modify all of my RCs but I wanted one that was good to go... I think I'll hold off for now, but I'd like to adapt some of the Mojave 4s advancements to my modified K4sV2. Like the protective parts around the diff outdrive cups & center diff module. Maybe even the tires on my widened Typhon 6s.
Keep doing your reviews with the same passion! We appreciate it.
Appreciate your support in this video and hopefully arrma will solve this issue as I feel this could be a cool rc lots of changes where made for this platform and a little in house testing could have solved this issue before any of received them 🙏👌💯
I know this is not how it suppose to be but what if some rubber o-rings on body posts could prevent this to happen?!
@@tomazztivoldthat was my thought as well. Maybe combine that with enlarged reciver holes in the chassis or smaller posts on the inner body shell.
ARRMAS new product- " post hole lubricant" sold at horizon hobby
Lmao hahahahahahah that’s funny right there great comment 💪
It’s been awhile how are brother. Thanks for testing and information for the R/C community and thank you for sharing. The main information
I 100% agree with you. In reality, a slight redesign is in order but in the meantime a felt washer of the right size could probably help remedy much of the problem.
TRAXXAS is always the first name dropped🤣😂
It’s like yin and Yang. You can’t have one without the other 🤣
People know the name 😮
@@earlmoorhead5555 for sure. They sponsor a ton of HUGE CZcamsrs like “dude perfect” and Cletus McFarland
Back in the day! When I first started making complaints about such design flaws, I got jumped online. Nobody wanted to blame the company or hold them accountable. They said RTR means Ready to Repair, get used to it.
You are NOT alone. I’ve seen other YTs trying to solve this problem. What they should be doing is making Arrma and Horizon solve this problem.
Yes arrma did send me an email apologizing for this issue and I’m sure a fix is coming quietly 👍
@@earlmoorhead5555 Your video was crucial in my decision making. I bought the new TEKNO SCT 2.0 over this Arrma. It was a close race till I saw the body mount issues. Thank you very much. You saved me from some stress. P.S; I know this wasn’t the old Arrma Guard. This issue probably had more to do with Horizon management.
@@spinrushrc I did the exact same thing built my Tekno and now keep seeing all the Arrma Mojaves breaking left and right I think I made the correct choice.
Glad I watched this to the end. You should put that body post info at the start so more people are aware (I had a similar frustration when tucking the balance plugs away on my Typhon - couldn’t get the battery out). You just saved me a purchase! I was going to run this on my 3s batteries, giving me durability overhead. Not now. Love your videos. Good work.
I actually like the grip matched with the power, looks like it makes it super fun to drive in the dirt! I'm considering getting one one day after doing some research. I just hope I can get one here in Australia, they're always very strict on fun things.
I have seen plenty run this car, non have mentioned that issue, and i don't really think that they have had it, but i do think it's an easy fix, so not such an big issue, from my perspective.
Price drop 399$ sounds fair for no rnd.
Dill out holes just a tad should sort the issue out ?
As I said in the video the funnel that’s built into the chassis is directing dirt sand into the post it would have to be pretty big to solve that issue as bigger racks could jam in there 💯🤷🏻♂️
Epic rant! 😀. I’ve taken the body off a few times and it was a bit tight, but certainly didn’t need a sledgehammer, wow.
3lb sledgehammer it was stuck bad it had me shocked 😳
Run it harder then razor
Lol remember how hard the 6s outcast wheels were to get off . If only the tolerances were tighter on moving parts my only complaint, you guys know after some decent use the slop gets crazy .I still think they’re best high speed bashers or like you said more a drivers rc .
@@norcalrc run it harder? have you seen my running footage? I'm doing backflips 20 ft. high -- but I also land it every time, so... 🤷♂
I dont like free reviews for a car. Arrma used to do this. The kraton 4s v2 was pictured as the best truck ever when it was absolutely not. The chassis all went out of stock day one because it broke because the hinge pins were rounded at the ends. Arms way toi strong
Thanks! Great video Earl I think you're totally right Arrma needs to step up there quality control and test these products a little better and in the environments they say they're for cuz it should not get stuck like that that's b******* my opinion
Thanks I really am sick of arrma not testing products! Appreciate your support 💯🙏👍
100% On The Review Earl. Fancy not being able to remove the body after a single light as anything run that i've seen you do at the track probably ever , they could have at least made the effort using a closed type rubber boot seal without holes on the underside but no and how know one else has mention this is BS imho.
Awesome truck, in my opinion. Yes, there are issues with post holes. i just drill holes slightly bigger and never changed anything else beside gorilla tape on body.
Thanks for the video. You did some smooth jumps. Maybe an O-Ring on these Body Posts will avoid the dirt to get between?
Great idea 💡
Thats crazy. This is why i now just look at traxxas and losi. Its a shame that these makers cant just think before they sell somthing.
Another honest review from Mr Moorhead! I was surprised the kid on the bike didn’t ask the two famous questions- is it gas or electric ? & how fast does it go?
Lol right
I'm still totally jealous of that sweet bike park. I have made it to the end of the video yet but the rig looks good on that pump track.
The car is ok but i dont like how arrma plastic chassis break and you cant find a replacement when you really need it . For the price , you could get a mojave 6s with scorched fenders used . The used market is overstocked with rc's
All I'm saying is: calling this rig a fail just because of a body post is horrible. I do agree, this should have been figured out beforehand. But the issue isn't a big deal at all. Mine personally broke in and isn't difficult at all anymore about 8 runs in. But I agree, they definitely should have figured something out before launch
Just wanted to clarify my mess of an argument 👍
Now all of a sudden I love the velcro straps of my Arrma 6s...they can be annoying but to hell with fighting a car to get the body off
Great video. It’s not put me off it but im glad i watched this and will put o-rings on the body posts and maybe tape the chassis.
Or i may wait to see if they drop the price of the 6s version now that this is out?
If only they made some type of spray to repel insects... sounds like someone got mad at gnats and took it out on the truck. I just can't get that upset about dirt. I will still take body post over chasing the truck down to put the body back on after every crash and cutting off crappy proprietary battery connectors. I'm not canceling my order over this. What do i know tho, I'm a happy Fireteam owner.
That's some serious BS for sure. No reason they should be charging these high prices & then expecting us consumers to do the R&D . We should demand better from all these companies. Speaking of companies could you pick up a Rlaarlo road car. They look pretty decent but I would love ti see what you think of them. Cheers Eman
There no part support for them so I try and stick with the top 3 brands but they do look cool 😎
@@earlmoorhead5555 they have a full compliment of parts on their website. That said who knows if the parts are o stock & how long will they take to arrive. $200 to get into a road car that will do 50plus mph & looks good is one hell of a sweet sounding deal.
Wow, I don’t think I’ve ever heard you so pissed…..😮
I think I was done with the Arrma excuses years of build up on bad Rc design 🤷🏻♂️
That’s why I love watching your videos. You find things all those paid CZcamsrs don’t show. Great content. Thanks Earl, curious how you solve this issue
Hi Earl your the first I've seen with this problem. Maybe drill the holes out a bit or put a slot in the hole to let sand and dirt move around. This is what company's do is let the people sort the problems out and fix it on the next model. Great video mate 👍🦘😁😁
My track record always is the first to notice then several start to share there issue having similar problems
Hell yeah, brother, you stated all solid good facts!!!!
Thanks
Funny how a lot of these comments are ppl saying stop complaining and just sand it down clearly they haven’t ever had a Lipo fire I’ve had a 2 Lipo fires and the last one body got stuck and completely burned the whole rig down! I get the frustration man appreciate your honesty maybe I’ll just end up with the Mojave 6s instead. Keep up the good work.. subscribed
Yeah thats a major issue if you have a lipo fire , hopefully they can resolve and my neighbors body was stuck as well . Used a pry bar to release it 😮
11:58 great control. Those are some big damn knats bro
They where attacking me like I was a big turd 💩 walking around out there lmao 🤣
wow, think that's the first time I heard you swear!! But I get it. Trying to create a quick release like Traxxas but it's not a very good one. Maybe stick to pins or come up with one better. Shocking that they didn't test the RC on a BMX track and you didn't even bash hard!!!. I hope Arrma get back to you or at the very least make some changes. But as always cheers for the video.. PS. I think I'll stick with my 6S Mojave. 🙂
Was the post issue the only issue you’ve came across so far? I ordered one the other day and it hasn’t come in yet.
Yeah, after my first run my dad and I sat there for like 10 minutes trying to get the body off 🤣 but after a couple runs it seems to have broken in and it's not very hard anymore.
Maybe placing an o-ring on the post might help
Earl i have never been such a fan as in this video been here since the beginning, and im sure you recognize my screen name by now! Big fan earl keep it a buck no matter what! 💯
The tires it uses are the dboot fortress tires they’re pretty firm brand new but once they get broken in they preform a lot better I had that same issue with the grip on my Senton when I got it until about 2 weeks into driving it and it fixed itself a bit
Yes found that out today as you’ll see in my video release today 👌
Like your reviews, I know why this happens thir rushing products out last year as well not testing I agree bull crap .sorry about the issue
I personally am ok with it getting stuck on, as brand new, once it's on and off enough times, it will loosen up, like every other part. The over all product is worth the price. The OutKast I broke the 3rd time I ran it, broke a slide pin right out of the actual frame. I don't feel like that small issue isn't a real issue. It will wear in. Eventually then wear out... But thanks for the video, I'm impressed with everything else, it's usually a run time issue I always have, I would like to get bored of it, before I have to swap batteries first. So run time is also really good as well.
Thats wild. Even though its not like performance thing its still pretty bad issue.
Glad you got this so I didn't have to haha! Love the content though keep it up!
They made them rounded to make it easier to put the body on. The posts should have been skinnier then. Yeah i agree arrma not doing much testing these days. Horizon hobby:/
Yes I’d say horizon if Losi last few drops the rc been great even that little RZR they did worked perfectly
The exb diff was solved. Pretty fast if i recall correctly. We just needed the LSD plates and then the open diff kit
It was 6-8 months waiting for parts while arrma was installing the diffs into the EXBMojave at that time and I was calling monthly with Rc guy garage doing the same I even built a locker just to run the rc car
You have the right to be pissed like you said if you had a fire that rc would’ve been done 500 bucks would be down the drain
This is definitely a 4S I won't be getting. City bashing gets my rigs nasty dirty and this would easily happen in my environment.
I'd run a drill bit that is slightly bigger than the hole for the body pins and just waller it out a little.
I just watched another update video of this happening … I’m staying away from this one
All they won't is money
I dont like free reviews for a car. Arrma used to do this. The kraton 4s v2 was pictured as the best truck ever when it was absolutely not. The chassis all went out of stock day one because it broke because the hinge pins were rounded at the ends , there was a fix for it and it was to buy arrma 63.5mm pins. Arms were too strong. Then the clutch being still a nuissance. Then the axles because they decided to make a cheaper version of their CNC option shafts for the v1..
Homie glued the posts in😂😂
I honestly don't like the color schemes of either body. I'd love either 90% red, or white, or blue.... Not either all 3, or just red and white. Fuggly.
The white Toyota TRD style looks cool the metallic blue and red don’t really fit the desert truck style
@@lowridr2 yes! The all white body with stickers and logos would look the best.
It’s been this way since covid and economy. Im 53 and been into new technology since 2011. Yes, quality control is absent on mostly everything. It’s not cool . I agree that everything can be modified but not in this case.
Hello, I'm not saying it's not a problem, but it's not that serious, I think if you put some rubber washers or a sponge, some oil on those pins will solve it All manufacturers have problems, some more serious or less serious...I changed to ESC under warranty at Traxxas because I got fed up...my opinion is that you wanted to click bite, no offense
There are warranty issues in the auto industry, and these issues are everywhere...
@make4all2000 yes but factories don’t send you parts months later and have you fix cars they pay for everything as it should be not expecting to have the customers do the labor
Nice review man !
Earl looks at way it running arrma Mojave 4s on video waiting to see thank you for is 👍💯
Right on
I'm sorry, but more and more I see of this Mokave, it still seems like a redesigned Senton. The size, body shape, chassis shape to a certain degree....
It'd be cheaper to buy a Brushless Senton and drop a 4S ESC and little bigger tires and BOOM! Set...
$500 foe the Mojave seems like a joke
Hopefully you find a quick fix…
Love ya Earl! Give em hell! Don't drop something if it has issues! 👍👍😎🛸👽🤟🤟
That’s why I say Fuck Arrma! Never been a fan. But I do own the speed run cars, and Kraton. Just overall Arrma quality is junk. I feel your pain after spending the money you do.
I couldn't agree more Arrma is junk! They do zero r&d just the cheapest materials possible hence why they have bendy chassis, even there fasteners are low quality! But the deluded fan boyz do love them!
You feel the slipper working? 😅
Definitely a good slipper clutch lmao 😂 idk why I’m stuck on that word now 🤷🏻♂️
I was buying every arrma untill the same thing happened with the outcast 6s exb then the talion followed by the fireteam it was the bearings failed first run and was waiting on the 4s drop before that but i got put off as just didn't trust the quality and now I've lost my love for having the whole fleet as when they also sell them dirt cheap compared when you buy at the first drop it really makes it feel different about your collection.
Wow 😞 this is a real turndown.
Did you have any issues with rocks getting between steering and locking it? For me it’s the biggest issue in Arrma 3S line and I was hoping that Arrma finally did something for it with a Mojave 4S.
Yes in the video but I didn’t have to stop running to remove the body shake the steering and it was unstuck
Try cutting the posts so they just go below the countersink and not deep in the hole.
Doesn't seem like the end of the world though...
It's not, it breaks in after a few runs. Mine was like this and really really really hard to get off, but now it's fine. Just a good hold on the roll cage and shake it good and it pops out
Not the end but why are we dealing with a dirt rc car that I can’t remove a body to get at the power supply 🤷🏻♂️and it won’t break in over time no way as it’s funneling dirt into the post
@@earlmoorhead5555 I do get it, I didn't mean to sound flippant.
It's not just Arrma though, it seems like a lot of manufacturers think it's okay to give us products that are "good enough" & it's up to us to fettle them to get them 100%..
My biggest gripe with Arrma are the crap electronics they use, I live in Scotland & rain is our thing, I've had spectrum ESC's crap out the first time out in the rain, the damned servos are just as bad.!
It's not my place to be giving you advice, but try not to let these things get you mad brother.!!
If you'd had a lipo fire & that happened then by all means get mad as hell. 😉 😉
What's your fix going to be.? Take a bit off the posts.?
Love your work btw.! 👍 👍 👍
@alantaylor353 I get it I buy every brand out there arrma just needs testing before an rc get released and all these little issue will be gone or at least a warranty issue rather then a defect they fix later on v2 or v3
@@earlmoorhead5555 it's not a big deal my guy. It works fine after a couple tries. Yeah it sucks at first but it resolves itself
Looks really good but, sounds like crap. Glad I waited for your review. It's definitely a clunky basher. I'll pass on this one.
gosh not more stuff stuck in the steering!! literally the downfall of arrmas with the plastic chassis, sad its not fixed completely, never had this problem with traxxas EVER!!
Traxxas sucks!
Nope and the Losi RZR used post with no issues
Anytime I have a bug problem I do a burn out out dust cloud ☁️ around me than there gone
Always happy to hear an Honest non biased, No BS Reveiw. thanks brother .
Appreciate your support for this video 👍💯👌
Yep they just lost all your viewers as potential customers. I was almost gonna order it. I think a product needs a year of testing before it goes out. I bought a 1000cc side by side from Robby Gordon’s new brand Speed UTV. I’ve waited 3 years now but I know that the long wait is due to them testing the crap out of it and making changes to make the best possible product for the market. A few runs in dirt would have revealed this problem but now there’s no way to go backwards in time to make it right. Really sad. I’m very disappointed
No, you went easy on it, from what I watched. Arrma needs to wake up, & that's why I stick to companies that TEST their r/cs
It just sounds cheaply made😢 Needs an Earl tune-up 😅
You find it because your not getting free stuff and afraid to loose a sponsorship. That is crazy the body will get stuck like that maybe some kind of rubber washer put on the posts to keep dirt out or like you said drill it out but that might still allow dirt to get stuck. That was a easy run there shouldn't have been any problems the shocks seem a bit light sounded like it was bottoming out.
It’s not great about the body getting stuck on but I feel you was a bit harsh in this review. The car drove great and took a few bashes. I get that it should be perfect out the box but this can easily be fixed within minutes. Just my opinion tho.
Can be fixed but arrma needs to test these rc cars
What a bummer its a flaw in design like that that keep me from purchaseing one. Cant run a dessert buggy on dessert terrain gonna aggrivate alot of people.
Appreciate your support for this video 💯🙏
Earl is FRESH NATTY MEAT 🤣😂🤣😂
Getting bugged by California bugs is no joke lmao 🤣 😮😢
Calm down. I've seen many videos of this. Not seen that problem before.
Funny that’s what ppl said about the Fireteam at first then whatcha know I was right same thing with the ExB Kraton roller then it’s everywhere seems I have to find out first before others will call them out 💯that what’s upsetting to me
tip top review brother
Thanks
Im torn. On the one hand, this seems like it should been easy to get right. The way the cage braces on the body should be higher up and more shallow. On the other hand, all rcs unfortunately have issues. The xrt tires are way too small and the foams get broken easily, the motors are made out of crap and most traxxas servos are too weak & slow for the application. Really if arrma and traxxas both put in their strong suits you’d get a perfect rc. I feel the issues traxxas cars have are much easier to fix though.
No because the price of traxxas it should be ready to go and sure NBD get 20$ servo nope can’t do that purposely done to get you spend few hundred more . All value aside all great rcs all need tuning and better with upgrades
Why the fuck is it tappered? Straigh holes would have been fine. I guess they thought it worked on the fireteam. LOL FIRETEAM
It’s now a big funnel that with the protector installed directs all the sand and rocks strait into it 🤷🏻♂️💯
5th video I have seen this problem.
Hi Earl, I'd be pissed too! They need to stop making us the Guinea pigs. Say what they want about Traxxas, but they test stuff like crazy before release and generally only make minor changes because thier platforms are tried and true if a bit old now. Whenever they do change something, you can be fairly certain it's a good change... Great video man! 💯 🤜 🤛
Yes I agree even Losi does testing the RZR was a great rc tho expensive but no real issues and the promoto Mx same great rc just a little expensive like traxxas great products but no real design flaws on release
@@earlmoorhead5555 exactly!
Hey cool seeing both you guys here tho😊👍😉
Drill them out seems to be the best idea . Why are they still using G.D. Body clips in 2023 anyway ?
Idk I’m worried about the funnel they added in the chassis as it really put the dirt going right to the post causing it to get jammed in there I would need to drill it pretty big to stop the small sand going in then it opens up for bigger rocks to jam it
Crazy you had to hit it that hard with a giant hammer 🔨 an other large tool. I definitely whoulda been stuck and super pissed cause i dont have those tools so not sure how i would of fixed it. I probably whoulda messed it up more trying to get it off. Right though not for 500$ shouldn't happen
I agree it was so stuck I’ve never experienced this ever in rc before
Well.that sucks...😮
JC. Quit the whining... You shouldn't be allowed to have the first drop on RC''s. You just shouldn't. Play with Traxxas only. JSing. Peace of mind.
Have Fun
ARRMA is one the Best rc car manufacturer !!!
All you need to do is not grab just one side or the front and back when you now your binding it up even more. Just grab the sides of it and shake it off… Talk about being dramatic you deserve an Oscar for your performance. 😂
What do you think would happen if you had a lipo fire in your Losi Promoto on your first run it would be up in smoke 🔥🔥🔥
Arrma has addressed the issue as an issue already it’s not how you grab it 💯
Well this proves that Armma's R&D did not run or bash this in a dusty dirty environment NOT good !!!!!
Well done Earl.That is a proper safety issue that Armma need to sort out very quickly.✌️
Drill it out 1/64 of an inch. Problem fixed. I'm a CZcams R/C expert and I know what works.
Get ‘em earl ttau
Some of those jumps looking good
I was trying to make it smooth 😯🤣
Sounded like chassis was bottoming out alot..maby needs more preload adjust
@@kg2mb1 have you seen the spacers that are already installed factory😳 I'm thinking that's about all that will fit
Then its going to need stiffer springs,but if theres not enough shock travel that wont help much..
Stiffer springs and take spacers out