Venus Update: New Unusual Discovery - Amino Acid Glycine

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  • @kayrosis5523
    @kayrosis5523 Před 3 lety +187

    Humans: We're going to colonize mars!
    Venus: No, wait! I'm ALIVE! Love Me More!

    • @kukulroukul4698
      @kukulroukul4698 Před 3 lety +5

      Yes.

    • @jacqueeelle6287
      @jacqueeelle6287 Před 3 lety +2

      I would imagine it's the opposite, after seeing what we've done to Earth and all the life we share it with.

    • @cosmicrider5898
      @cosmicrider5898 Před 3 lety +2

      Any planet with life should be studied from a far.

    • @Andre-gn4sj
      @Andre-gn4sj Před 3 lety +1

      @@cosmicrider5898 avoiding biological contamination would be of the highest importance if we are to reliably study a life bearing planet.

    • @OddSoxChris
      @OddSoxChris Před 3 lety

      Humans: We're going to colonize Mars!
      Venus: Good, we are going to colonize Earth then!

  • @Freak80MC
    @Freak80MC Před 3 lety +78

    Honestly would be hilarious if the first life discovered outside of Earth is from Venus since we originally thought it would be like a rain-forest or whatever beneath the clouds, then inhospitable, wrapping all the way back to finding life there (even if it is in the clouds)

  • @mofkergt
    @mofkergt Před 3 lety +110

    He called us a wonderful person two times! 00:00 00:17

    • @voidremoved
      @voidremoved Před 3 lety +8

      do they stack or cancel each other out??

    • @donloughrey1615
      @donloughrey1615 Před 3 lety +10

      @@voidremoved I can only assume they stack. We are wonderful of course.

    • @miked0602
      @miked0602 Před 3 lety +2

      Thats how wonderful of a person he is, i continue watching him because he is pleasant to learn from and very nice to us!

    • @artistmimic
      @artistmimic Před 3 lety

      He is in synch, with his parallel Universe person.

    • @edwarddodge7937
      @edwarddodge7937 Před 3 lety +1

      Once for us Earthlings, and once for any Venusians who might be watching.

  • @LewdSpark
    @LewdSpark Před 3 lety +195

    He called us wonderful person 3 Times ; - ; 0:00 , 0:17 , 3:00
    Made my week.

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      @FranklinDelanoBluth999 Před 3 lety +4

      We are quite wonderful

    • @sense7074
      @sense7074 Před 3 lety +2

      @@FranklinDelanoBluth999 debatable.

    • @paulspark7287
      @paulspark7287 Před 3 lety +5

      People called Sparky are even more wonderful than others too.. although I've never been called Lewd before :-)

    • @RedcoatsReturn
      @RedcoatsReturn Před 3 lety +5

      Yeah...and I feel like I‘m really wonderful when he says that 😊😄😄😄😉👍👍

    • @floydthedroid5935
      @floydthedroid5935 Před 3 lety +4

      Made my week 3 times

  • @matthewdee6023
    @matthewdee6023 Před 3 lety +87

    I'm in the middle of a pretty bad depressive episode right now, and your "Hello wonderful person" made me smile. Thank you for being you :-)

    • @matt36866
      @matt36866 Před 3 lety +15

      You get through it bud. I've been there too and the main thing that helped me was talking about it to someone. It's hard but you can do it and people care about you

    • @Therealhtrinity
      @Therealhtrinity Před 3 lety +12

      I second that. ☝️❤️

    • @g.a.c.4139
      @g.a.c.4139 Před 3 lety +10

      Many have been there. Me too. You are not alone.

    • @francis5518
      @francis5518 Před 3 lety +10

      I'm sending antidepressant vibes right now, brother!!
      I struggle with that too.
      Much love!!

    • @derp195
      @derp195 Před 3 lety +1

      @@tukayz254 You aren't helping. At all.

  • @rikes7855
    @rikes7855 Před 3 lety +43

    Glycine was produced in the 1952 Miller-Urey experiment using spark, water (H2O), methane (CH4), ammonia (NH3), and hydrogen (H2). Glycine was also produced in the volcanic spark and H2S-rich spark experiment. In fact the 2008 volcanic spark experiment produced 22 amino acids. Ref. Miller-Urey experiment wiki

    • @negi9040
      @negi9040 Před 3 lety +4

      Suggesting these compounds are produced by lightening instead of life forms.

    • @dr.michaellittle5611
      @dr.michaellittle5611 Před 3 lety +1

      This is a very important point. The glycine is not evidence of anything other than it has been found there.

    • @rikes7855
      @rikes7855 Před 3 lety +3

      @@negi9040 Both phosphene and a whole list amino acids under the right conditions are produced by electric discharge and maybe UV light. Seems be too hot at surface, may have been right conditions for life in Venus early age. Whether there's life is big question since precursor to life is produced even in space.

    • @tohuwabohu5968
      @tohuwabohu5968 Před 3 lety +1

      the comment I was looking for, thank you. Still very sceptical of this hype train.

    • @FredPlanatia
      @FredPlanatia Před 3 lety +2

      yes, evidence that conditions in early Earth could result in prebiotic synthesis of chemical precursors of life was what was shown by the Miller-Urey experiment and many others that have been made since then. It's interesting to see this simple amino acid in the atmosphere of Venus (if its not another compound which has a similar spectral feature). At the end of the paper they discuss the possibility that Venus might be in an early stage of prebiotic evolution so if vulcanism or lightning in the venusian conditions can help produce glycine that would fit to this idea.

  • @velascosr
    @velascosr Před 3 lety +68

    Last time I looked at Venus through my telescope, it was like looking at a tiny sun and it made my eyes hurt lol

    • @teaser6089
      @teaser6089 Před 3 lety +6

      How much zoom do you have, like could you look at Mars and see any details?

    • @xviper0042
      @xviper0042 Před 3 lety +2

      Hold on a sec......it looked like a mini sun!? How big is your telescope bruh?

    • @someguy3508
      @someguy3508 Před 3 lety +6

      Better look at it during sunset. If you look at it during the night it is way too bright

    • @kukulroukul4698
      @kukulroukul4698 Před 3 lety

      resembles a falling asteroid on Earth. Freezed in time :)

    • @kukulroukul4698
      @kukulroukul4698 Před 3 lety

      next time when you spot 2VENUSES in the sky...find a cover xD

  • @qwertyuiopgarth
    @qwertyuiopgarth Před 3 lety +128

    Say it with me: "dirigible probe/drone". Leave a couple of communication/observation satellites in orbit and the dirigible is able to send 'daily' updates - including video and audio - back to Earth. This should be able to be made with 'nearly off the shelf' technology in the fairly near future....

    • @dxps26
      @dxps26 Před 3 lety +16

      Absolutely. Problem is, Mars is getting all the attention, with an unreasonable goal of Manned Mars missions in the near future - which leads to less funding for the less 'sexy' worlds.

    • @miguellopez3392
      @miguellopez3392 Před 3 lety +8

      @@dxps26 Manned mars mission > looking at satellite pictures of other planets

    • @citizencain454
      @citizencain454 Před 3 lety +8

      I’ve been thinking this for years! Let’s do everything possible on Venus, and everything possible on Mars. :-)

    • @science.and.beyond
      @science.and.beyond Před 3 lety +8

      I would think the probe/atmosphere buoy should also be able to detect microorganisms in addition to video and audio, as these organisms probably aren't multicellular.

    • @qwertyuiopgarth
      @qwertyuiopgarth Před 3 lety +2

      @@science.and.beyond Oh yeah. Lots and lots of atmosphere sampling. The video and audio is a nice plus to the true purpose of the probe.

  • @melvinISmischievous
    @melvinISmischievous Před 3 lety +3

    Anton, your content is already educational but do you think you could make a introduction into the basics for chemistry and astronomy as well as what you believe everyone should know? I have learned a lot from you and I think the way you show and explain stuff would be a great way to not only introduce the next generation to this information but many others well into the future. Your content reminds me of when I was in school watching Bill Nye the Science Guy and thats a feeling I have not had in over 10 years. Please, stay safe and keep doing what your doing. You are a gem and everyone here cherishes you. :)

  • @CristinaG
    @CristinaG Před 3 lety +56

    Bodybuilders are going to be so *happy* about this news! 😂

  • @jamesduellman3376
    @jamesduellman3376 Před 3 lety +22

    It might not be life yet but it could be the set-up for that possibility.

  • @confusedone97
    @confusedone97 Před 3 lety +327

    Plot twist, the Russian probe that first took pictures of the surface actually seeded the planet with life

    • @davisjugroop3782
      @davisjugroop3782 Před 3 lety +17

      Exactly what i thought from the start of life on venus scam started.

    • @BeginTheCrusade
      @BeginTheCrusade Před 3 lety +36

      Literally just plot... no twist lol

    • @lukahutinski9075
      @lukahutinski9075 Před 3 lety +22

      @@BeginTheCrusade yeah but i would let it slide. Soviet union starting a selfsustaining colony and pushing humans forward from ze past would be such a 2020 thing

    • @racer98
      @racer98 Před 3 lety +4

      Mic dropped.

    • @jozefdebeer9807
      @jozefdebeer9807 Před 3 lety +1

      I was thinking this once Anton started talking about the equatorial winds of Venus.

  • @yourguard4
    @yourguard4 Před 3 lety +48

    Nice reconciliation : From "venus flytrap" to "venus update" :D

  • @infinitumneo840
    @infinitumneo840 Před 3 lety +24

    Our understanding of life is so limited in general. We once thought that life couldn't exist without Sun light. Now we know it can thrive biochemically underground and under the oceans. Dr Carl Sagan suggested that life would be very different than we would image on other planets.

    • @feenux09
      @feenux09 Před 3 lety +4

      absolutely, but we have to start with what we know at this time which is carbon based life

    • @yourmaw6839
      @yourmaw6839 Před 3 lety +3

      I once had someone tell me lifeform could be as anything that goes against entropy. Life will be similar to life here.

    • @infinitumneo840
      @infinitumneo840 Před 3 lety

      @@yourmaw6839 I agree

    • @tabularasa0606
      @tabularasa0606 Před 3 lety

      @@yourmaw6839
      Life does not go against entropy.

    • @infinitumneo840
      @infinitumneo840 Před 3 lety

      @@tukayz254 you're right, my statement is a logical fallacy.

  • @khalidmkhan
    @khalidmkhan Před 3 lety

    Your new camera setup is fab!
    Thanks for uploading.

  • @MrSmiley1964
    @MrSmiley1964 Před 3 lety +107

    Sounds like it's time to put some satellites in Venus' orbit. We've left our guard down on our neighbor for far too long.

    • @paulwallis7586
      @paulwallis7586 Před 3 lety +8

      Should have satellites around all of them. This "whatever someone thinks of" approach is pretty patchy at best.

    • @jirehchoo2151
      @jirehchoo2151 Před 3 lety +1

      Many Satellites have already been sent to Venus. However, not many of them survived Venus' extreme conditions.

    • @Blockistium
      @Blockistium Před 3 lety +2

      Balloons

    • @Ziplock9000
      @Ziplock9000 Před 3 lety +8

      @@jirehchoo2151 They were landers not satellites

    • @sdaniel9129
      @sdaniel9129 Před 3 lety

      It's time to put life in the atmosphere of Venus! We have life on Earth as we know it and we already know that certain bacteria can live there... Micro nova is going to stir up everything in the Solar system first, but after that we can experiment all we want!

  • @MapleYum
    @MapleYum Před 3 lety +61

    Venus was always more interesting than Mars.
    Edit: One looks red, the other one is on fire 🔥

    • @seanparker4461
      @seanparker4461 Před 3 lety +5

      Blasphemy! lol, kidding

    • @Breezycap
      @Breezycap Před 3 lety +9

      Mars is overrated XD

    • @KK-pq6lu
      @KK-pq6lu Před 3 lety +2

      Once we decide to terraform, Venus is more logical than Mars to inhabit.

    • @teaser6089
      @teaser6089 Před 3 lety +7

      Maybe, but Mars is more interesting in the sense that it would be A: More useful in its current form. B: Mars is easier, you don't need to reinvent the wheel, just improve the tech we used on the moon and we are set. C: Venus only makes sense as a research place, until we terraform it enough to get to the surface, on Mars you can do a lot more.

    • @rossmcleod7983
      @rossmcleod7983 Před 3 lety +1

      @P C been saying just this for years...no one ever listens...but now there is that light on the hill!

  • @science.and.beyond
    @science.and.beyond Před 3 lety +62

    What if the life came from the Venera probe? That would be wild

    • @xviper0042
      @xviper0042 Před 3 lety +13

      That could be a possibility but it has really low chances.

    • @TheAmazingCowpig
      @TheAmazingCowpig Před 3 lety +17

      I'm somewhat convinced that, if there is life on Venus, it's because we accidentally sent it there on one of our older probes.

    • @xviper0042
      @xviper0042 Před 3 lety +2

      @@TheAmazingCowpig yeah lol 😂

    • @skybattler2624
      @skybattler2624 Před 3 lety +6

      @@xviper0042 You are severely underestimating the ability of microbes from a tabletop to survive in a CO2 environment...

    • @Chromia1
      @Chromia1 Před 3 lety +1

      To me, that would show just how tenacious life is, and how quickly it can adapt and grow.

  • @mr.roboxihuman4344
    @mr.roboxihuman4344 Před 3 lety +1

    Much love

  • @TrueCicero
    @TrueCicero Před 3 lety

    Anton I love how your coverage is objective and you don’t succumb to clickbaity speculation for views. Never change that my friend.

  • @sciencetroll6304
    @sciencetroll6304 Před 3 lety +34

    Giant hot air balloon jellyfish with hydrochloric acid tentacles and the ability to store static to use as a lightening weapon.

    • @PolarBear-rc4ks
      @PolarBear-rc4ks Před 3 lety +5

      So a pokemon?

    • @zeroxcrusher
      @zeroxcrusher Před 3 lety +8

      Yes, thats the only viable explanation.

    • @cbl4130
      @cbl4130 Před 3 lety +6

      give it swords.... swords with 3 swords each... and those swords have guns that shoot swords

    • @sciencetroll6304
      @sciencetroll6304 Před 3 lety +1

      @@cbl4130 And lasers, and a little cairn of killed Venus probes.

    • @AJBAXTER7677
      @AJBAXTER7677 Před 3 lety +1

      You guys are making Venus sound scary
      Now I want to go even more

  • @BaalFridge
    @BaalFridge Před 3 lety +26

    hey Anton I can't help but notice how lately a lot of science news fall to the easy trap of talking about non-peer reviewed papers and their ''implications if they were true'' and I have a very weird feeling that it's just fostering science fantasies rather than push science forward. I feel like current science headlines are pushing you to cover almost fringe subjects to make sure you get decent views.
    I hope I'm wrong. Someone is probably gonna reply to this with a 3000 words essay on why I'm wrong.

    • @ksp-crafter5907
      @ksp-crafter5907 Před 3 lety +5

      Nope you are probably right!

    • @Trunkswr
      @Trunkswr Před 3 lety +2

      It's a regular circle jerk

    • @AWildBard
      @AWildBard Před 3 lety +3

      Pretty much all of science news is something like what you are talking about. Even peer-reviewed science papers, taken individually, may paint a very unrealistic portrait of science. Too often there seems to be a focus on one interesting finding or paper alone without reference to how it fits into the ocean of research in the same field.

    • @dralord1307
      @dralord1307 Před 3 lety +3

      Sadly this seems to be all media these days. Clicks are more important than reality now

    • @JTuaim
      @JTuaim Před 3 lety

      Could be all of the planets contributed something to earth. Octopus and pltatapus have no explanation in the evolutionary record. There are other isolated life forms. Who knows?

  • @xtremefps_
    @xtremefps_ Před 3 lety

    Hello wonderful Anton. I love your videos and am glad you have found stable housing! This community is great and you're awesome. Keep up all the superb work that you do. Your videos are important!

  • @silasdense4725
    @silasdense4725 Před 3 lety

    Such amazing research that you show us on these videos.
    Thank you Anton!

  • @FaintSignals
    @FaintSignals Před 3 lety +23

    Ever see Tarkovsky’s Solaris (1972 not the remake). Glycine, neurons, life in the atmosphere... Venus is Solaris, tread carefully!

    • @DickHolman
      @DickHolman Před 3 lety +1

      I read the book before I saw the '72 film.

    • @allhumansarejusthuman.5776
      @allhumansarejusthuman.5776 Před 3 lety +1

      @Joe Alexander *Boot Lickers
      They aint related to the state of the economy.
      Fixed that for ya.

  • @mmichaeldonavon
    @mmichaeldonavon Před 3 lety +3

    I really enjoyed this episode, Anton. Your explanations were above my pay grade, chemically, but overall I could follow along with you. Many thanks for the work that you do.

  • @chubbymoth5810
    @chubbymoth5810 Před 3 lety

    Great video with explaining images. Thanks Anton and team.

  • @travisflesher8798
    @travisflesher8798 Před 3 lety

    Quite intriguing. Keep up the excellent work Mr. Petrov. Cheers.

  • @BarbadosBeerFestival
    @BarbadosBeerFestival Před 3 lety +5

    If we can work out how to reverse the green house effect on Venus..... we could be on the right track

  • @Does_it_come_in_black
    @Does_it_come_in_black Před 3 lety +10

    🙋‍♂️hello wonderful Anton

  • @lollertoaster
    @lollertoaster Před 3 lety +1

    If aliens visit us in a flying saucer I want to hear it first from Anton.

  • @smashingintoyou
    @smashingintoyou Před 3 lety +1

    One of the nicest comment section. What a great group I’m a part of. Great video wonderful Anton.

  • @rogerwehbe182
    @rogerwehbe182 Před 3 lety +37

    I love that we looked all over the whole freaking universe for aliens. They have been sitting next-door all our lives .

    • @Aurinkohirvi
      @Aurinkohirvi Před 3 lety

      Yeah, and landing our school yards and scaring our pilots.

    • @footyball66
      @footyball66 Před 3 lety +1

      in the form of floating fluff balls with eyes and a mouth which feed on methane gas.

    • @MrWhiteVzla
      @MrWhiteVzla Před 3 lety +4

      It's the eternal love story. The one you were looking for was next to you your whole life

    • @circuit10
      @circuit10 Před 3 lety

      Remember, don't jump to conclusions yet, but maybe

    • @rogerwehbe182
      @rogerwehbe182 Před 3 lety

      @@circuit10 I’m not jumping to conclusions. But I think he’s awfully wrong about AHL84001. I own the Meteorite store I own a large sample of black Beauty, there’s fossils in that too.

  • @docbrown1582
    @docbrown1582 Před 3 lety +19

    If life can exist there, it can almost anywhere. A question that needs an answer.

  • @misterangel8486
    @misterangel8486 Před 3 lety

    Extreemly interesting video this time👌😎
    Very informing. 👍
    Thank you wonderful person Anton🙏

  • @mazingworldofmegan8906
    @mazingworldofmegan8906 Před 3 lety +1

    That's so cool we will get to observe the beginning of a living planet formation and this will give us better insight to our own formation

  • @ironmanh8sall
    @ironmanh8sall Před 3 lety +7

    I have been watching you for a long time and I'm still amazed that you can make a video of this quality every day. You are a wonderful person. Keep up the good work.

  • @JBangcastle
    @JBangcastle Před 3 lety +4

    Good ole Anton. This is all I needed to place my money on life existing on Venus, even if microbial. If I had to bet, something is there. The odds lean towards life. Our denial leans towards nothing, always!

    • @JBangcastle
      @JBangcastle Před 3 lety +1

      @@comedicsketches You mean the conclusion that denial leans towards nothing, always. ? I'll have to look into some sources to cite on that like the first step in an addiction.
      .
      As for betting that some life is on Venus, it's not really a conclusion but the odds look good in my opinion. Anton did a video on the pioneer missions data. Really great stuff. I'm an optimist on the subject of life elsewhere so maybe I'm wrong but maybe I'm not. ;-)

    • @JBangcastle
      @JBangcastle Před 3 lety +1

      @@comedicsketches Easy killer. I'm just hoping it's life and having a good time. My bet isn't a published scientific paper. Probably not life but dang you're killing the buzz of the possibility. When we do find life someday, even with concrete proof, we'll still be in the first stage of denial.

    • @JBangcastle
      @JBangcastle Před 3 lety +1

      @@comedicsketches I meant to also say that of course a bet is a gamble. Gambling can cost. If a non biological explanation is "at least as likely", then you're saying 50/50.? Then I'll bet you 1 public apology in this thread and accept your "1 told ya so statement", with respect... against your "you took a gamble and were right", public statement in this thread respectfully. I'm fine with that.
      Good luck.

    • @JBangcastle
      @JBangcastle Před 3 lety +1

      @@comedicsketches Do you accept the gamble? I'm willing to be wrong.

    • @JBangcastle
      @JBangcastle Před 3 lety +1

      @@comedicsketches C,mon, it'll be a fine experiment.

  • @mikearmstrong6736
    @mikearmstrong6736 Před 3 lety +1

    Happy Halloween Anton ! My favorite go to guy on CZcams.

  • @JRR31984
    @JRR31984 Před 3 lety +1

    LEGIT. Very GOOD. I don't doubt all sorts of mining and your kind of learning can keep going on continuously. Mr. Petrov. SPEAK. Awesome ending...

  • @OmegaVideoGameGod
    @OmegaVideoGameGod Před 3 lety +3

    Beautiful.

  • @skybattler2624
    @skybattler2624 Před 3 lety +26

    Comment section be like:
    Anon: "Yey! Alien Life on Venus!"
    Random Guy: It came from earth.
    Anon: HOW?
    Random Guy: The Soviets sent a series of unsterilized probes in the past.

    • @meneeRubieko
      @meneeRubieko Před 3 lety

      Qanon?

    • @rogerwehbe182
      @rogerwehbe182 Před 3 lety +1

      Trust me that life is been here well before the Soviets

    • @blabik
      @blabik Před 3 lety

      If it turns out to be true that life on Venus is from humans inoculating it by imporperly sterilizing their equipment, that will be pretty dissappointing.
      On the other hand if Earth bacteria can survive and thrive on a goddamn Venus of all planets, that would be pretty incredible.

    • @anftrew3775
      @anftrew3775 Před 3 lety +2

      Dr Becky has a video about this. She actually chats to several actual scientists in the video. They all conclude that life we know about on earth would not survive the atmospheric conditions on venus, and even if they could, they'd be unable to reproduce and therefore evolve their.

    • @GeraltofRivia22
      @GeraltofRivia22 Před 3 lety +1

      That's actually unlikely to be the case. Firstly, the amount of time since the Soviet missions to Venus is insufficient to produce the quantities of phosphine we've seen. Secondly, no life on earth is capable of surviving in the conditions of Venus.

  • @niamhsheehan2208
    @niamhsheehan2208 Před 3 lety +1

    Good video, Anton...as usual.

  • @chaztech9824
    @chaztech9824 Před 3 lety

    Looking good Anton! Stay strong

  • @MCsCreations
    @MCsCreations Před 3 lety +16

    Really interesting. I'm curious to see how life changes Venus climate - I mean, in case there is life after all. 😊

    • @thesaddestdude3575
      @thesaddestdude3575 Před 3 lety +2

      There might not be, but maybe there once was!

    • @krillin6
      @krillin6 Před 3 lety +1

      The chances of life on Venus are like 0.01%, and that's actually an over estimate.

    • @thesaddestdude3575
      @thesaddestdude3575 Před 3 lety +1

      @@krillin6 Well, life as we know it anyways. 0.01% is still quite alot.

    • @kukulroukul4698
      @kukulroukul4698 Před 3 lety

      maybe LIFE will make Venus rotate faster Same as talibans are doing here on Earth

    • @GirtonOramsay
      @GirtonOramsay Před 3 lety +1

      Venus will just burn them alive

  • @matta5498
    @matta5498 Před 3 lety +79

    All these worlds are yours except Venus. Attempt no landing there.

  • @teemuuusitalo7987
    @teemuuusitalo7987 Před 3 lety

    Do you have a new camera? The video quality is suddenly really good, love the videos 👌

  • @electriccerix
    @electriccerix Před 3 lety

    6:08 - Hadley Cells transfer heat away from the poles, which is even present in the illustration you used. The air near the surface does flow towards the equator, but that is colder air on its return journey.

  • @KK-pq6lu
    @KK-pq6lu Před 3 lety +3

    Would we detect glycine in our atmosphere?

  • @Pigen_
    @Pigen_ Před 3 lety +13

    Venus update:
    patch notes:
    -added lore and history
    -new resources added to terrain generation
    -gas physics engine updated
    -preparations for the venus samples quest

  • @ValtDewller
    @ValtDewller Před 3 lety

    Great video Anton!

  • @WildBillCox13
    @WildBillCox13 Před 3 lety

    A well nuanced capitulation of the search for life. Admirable restraint. Thanks, Anton.

  • @Hepad_
    @Hepad_ Před 3 lety +3

    I agree with what you said at the end of the video. I am, as any other one, very excited about the phosphine discovery, but I fear that people will start to look for more clues instead of practicing the scientific method.

    • @fortusvictus8297
      @fortusvictus8297 Před 3 lety +1

      Its 2020...science is just a term used for facts that back up what we want reality to look like. All other facts are meaningless.

    • @felixfeliciano7011
      @felixfeliciano7011 Před 3 lety

      The good news is that the recent studies are bringing much needed attention to Venus that it hasn't gotten in decades, despite being closer and having more chemical activity than Mars. This added attention means more scrutiny. The "high" might be strong now, but if there is room to debunk it, it will be found and relatively quickly, with how quickly the interest has risen in just the past month alone.

  • @rene0
    @rene0 Před 3 lety +12

    "It's never aliens until it's aliens" "It's never aliens until it's aliens" ** Alien hits you on the head with a stick (comic style) / Alien blasts your head of with a zapper (other comic style) * And mumbles "Oh shut up earthling of course there are aliens"

    • @the11382
      @the11382 Před 3 lety

      Yeah, I do wondering if scientists have been looking over some evidence. There is A LOT of data.

    • @worldofwoolol6082
      @worldofwoolol6082 Před 3 lety +1

      as long as it isn't in a trailer park...
      I'd still want More Proof ! LOL
      Peace People

    • @andrewharper1609
      @andrewharper1609 Před 3 lety

      @@worldofwoolol6082 Would an anal probe do the trick?😱

  • @onehitpick9758
    @onehitpick9758 Před 3 lety

    Great coverage.

  • @wayneshirey6999
    @wayneshirey6999 Před 3 lety

    Good, thought provoking video. Thanks.

  • @jaroslavzaruba2765
    @jaroslavzaruba2765 Před 3 lety +7

    I don't have a slightest clue wtf that means for anything but I am excited af!

  • @Mark3MSK
    @Mark3MSK Před 3 lety +6

    I hope to see what's up ahead in my lifetime.

  • @PetraKann
    @PetraKann Před 3 lety +1

    Chemical reactions that yield Amino acid generally run “downhill” thermodynamically- ie they are favoured with respect to energy shifts and stability.
    This is why you can produce amino acids so easily in a test tube.
    Going from amino acids to protein is not thermodynamically favourable. You need a catalyst such as an enzyme or solid interface to facilitate the reaction. (Or a long long long very long time)
    The Miller-Urey experiment in the 1950s simply sparked some Water, H2, CH4 and NH3 in a test tube and numerous amino acids were produced (among other things)
    Wouldn’t surprise me that amino acids are present in many bodies in our solar system - after all amino acids have been detected on asteroid fragments
    (But they have never found proteins or more complex bio-chemicals)

  • @allimone5400
    @allimone5400 Před 3 lety

    I love when you do videos on our solar system

  • @mst4309
    @mst4309 Před 3 lety +13

    We’re on the right track guys!! Don’t jinx this.

  • @Kevinkapon
    @Kevinkapon Před 3 lety +6

    I can't imagine a mission to Venus would even be that expensive.

  • @squirrelgray945
    @squirrelgray945 Před 3 lety

    Sweet logical science. This channel is my happy place in 2020.

  • @tom23rd
    @tom23rd Před 3 lety

    Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. I like Anton's emphasis on "possibly but not necessarily"

  • @God-rn3ck
    @God-rn3ck Před 3 lety +5

    Your voice is pleasant

  • @osmosisjones4912
    @osmosisjones4912 Před 3 lety +4

    Imagine the lindinburge only on Venus something like those oil rigs a platform on large pillars would be better

  • @scottmallender2104
    @scottmallender2104 Před 3 lety +1

    Valiant Thor, has been here to help. Somehow we said, “ no thanks”...

  • @oxbowtwo
    @oxbowtwo Před 3 lety

    Im pretty sure in the paper that they metioned the method of generating phosphine from phosphoric acid. They stated that it could be contributing in someway but the levels measure are orders of magnitude greater that would be expected from this mechanism.

  • @appleseedfanatic
    @appleseedfanatic Před 3 lety +4

    My guess is Venus, Earth, Mars all had life or life supporting atmospheres then an object hit the cloud thing in deep space causing a meteor shower to wipe out Mars and Venus and cripple Earths atmospheric pressure causing dinos to all die off

  • @jaimeduncan6167
    @jaimeduncan6167 Před 3 lety +8

    Sugestion: We first learn what is happening, and then we decide if it's sensible to bring back a sample.

    • @caterpie4546
      @caterpie4546 Před 3 lety +2

      To learn what is happening we need to bring a sample home

    • @richardshane456
      @richardshane456 Před 3 lety

      Are you sure we can go in that direction toward Venus?
      Let alone return from the moon or Mars or further
      I know they said they landed a man on the Moon.... However can you prove they came back, the original explorers?
      I don't think so the orbital of all the planets is basically debris following the Sun around a galactic core
      Not in a true orbital as depicted in our astronomy class but as a spiraling pieces of junk chasing a giant gigantic heat ball

    • @caterpie4546
      @caterpie4546 Před 3 lety +4

      @@richardshane456 what

    • @richardshane456
      @richardshane456 Před 3 lety

      @@caterpie4546 that's why it's called space exploration

    • @caterpie4546
      @caterpie4546 Před 3 lety

      @@richardshane456 What are you talking about?

  • @blackopal3138
    @blackopal3138 Před 3 lety +1

    "I am your Venus. I am your fire. I'm your desire"

  • @SumBrennus
    @SumBrennus Před 3 lety

    Always a good sign when you need a second outro song for all the Patreon sponsors!

  • @leptonsoup337
    @leptonsoup337 Před 3 lety +6

    Glycine is pretty ubiquitous isn´t it? Has it been detected in the interstellar medium?

    • @lanceharper4107
      @lanceharper4107 Před 3 lety +3

      Lol why would you comment with a question when you obviously haven't watched the video, anton clearly says yes glycine has been found on multiple comets and asteroids..

    • @Crazylaika
      @Crazylaika Před 3 lety

      @@lanceharper4107 they just commented before he said it

    • @felixfeliciano7011
      @felixfeliciano7011 Před 3 lety

      Phosphine has also been detected on other celestial bodies and in large quantities, but is easy to explain through non-biological means. The point being that Phosphine's existence isn't what is interesting, but rather where it exists and in what quantities. Glycine is in the same boat, where the circumstances of its existence make it interesting, not the mere existence itself. The detection of Glycine in the Venusian atmosphere is oddly correlated with the detection of Phosphine, both in its location and in its distribution. This SUGGESTS that their origins might be related, but that could just be a coincidence.
      Either way, it is cause to look harder at the data. This extra scrutiny might actually disprove the previous findings, so even more reason to dig deeper.

  • @Canadian789119
    @Canadian789119 Před 3 lety +11

    You sure someone just didn't forget to wear gloves when handling the probe?

    • @codename495
      @codename495 Před 3 lety +1

      Pre probe data has shown signs of phosphenes upon review. So maybe no?

    • @teaser6089
      @teaser6089 Před 3 lety

      Bruh, nothing can survive the amount of chemicals used to clean these space probes haha

  • @AnexoRialto
    @AnexoRialto Před 3 lety

    Anton did a good job in this video of calming down the hype about life on Venus. Early days still.

  • @aldenconsolver3428
    @aldenconsolver3428 Před 3 lety

    Good Job covering this sir, got me to thinking that one of the issues of the genesis of life on earth is how to free N from N2 in order to produce amino acids. On Venus that should be very easy. Now we need to add some kind of stabilizing organic chemical to get random molecular interactions together long enough to build complex molecules. Personally I belong to the lipid droplet cult, now I will go to work seeing how a droplet could form in the cauldron of Venus atmosphere.

  • @spencer1980
    @spencer1980 Před 3 lety +12

    Yeah, I almost think venus is a better bet for colonization than mars.

    • @spencer1980
      @spencer1980 Před 3 lety +4

      Assuming we have the capacity to mine resources from the surface, which is a somewhat tall order.

    • @spencer1980
      @spencer1980 Před 3 lety +3

      Though, I wonder what conditions are like beneath the surface? Initiating a mine might be tricky, but relatively straight forward once it's established.

    • @richardshane456
      @richardshane456 Před 3 lety +1

      It's my assertion we can't go toward the Sun Venus Mercury because of the solar wind we don't have enough horsepower to Buck that monster

    • @spencer1980
      @spencer1980 Před 3 lety +2

      @@richardshane456 the sovietss went to venus in 70s, I'm sure we can handle that. Being closer to the sun is also an advantage over mars, because solar power would be astronomically more powerful, even more so than earth. As far as the asteroid belt being an economic base for colonizing mars....um.... there's whole fucking planets worth of resources on the surface of mars. It would be centuries before we would even need to consider something like asteroids, unless you wanted to put them into earth orbit to make mining easier for earthlings, but my vision for a martian colony is pull a 1776 as soon as possible.

    • @teaser6089
      @teaser6089 Před 3 lety +1

      Maybe, but Mars is more interesting in the sense that it would be A: More useful in its current form. B: Mars is easier, you don't need to reinvent the wheel, just improve the tech we used on the moon and we are set. C: Venus only makes sense as a research place, until we terraform it enough to get to the surface, on Mars you can do a lot more.
      "Assuming we have the capacity to mine resources from the surface, which is a somewhat tall order."
      Getting to the surface is a big problem, electronics just die on Venus, no way to get around that. That's why Nasa is designing a mechanical robot to Venus without any microelectronics.
      Venus would be very interesting once we terraformed it, cause it's a lot like earth, but terraforming Venus will be very hard and before that has happened you can't make a lot of money from it. Mars, on the other hand, has enough resources and scientific benefits to make it worth while.

  • @RSK412
    @RSK412 Před 3 lety +4

    searching all over town endlessly meanwhile they are serving life soup right next door. wild.

  • @dj.chlamydia4717
    @dj.chlamydia4717 Před rokem

    one important thing a science teacher told me for graphs is that correlation does not mean causation, and in this case that is very true just because that graph has a strong correlation, that doesn't necessarily mean theres life.

  • @pavelZhd
    @pavelZhd Před 3 lety

    The thing with Phosphane generation is, while it can be produced by inorganic means - including the volcanic eruptions. But it also decays rapidly. Especially in atmosphere. And by the time phosphane from volcanic eruptions would get to the altitude where it was detected most of it should have decayed.
    So the high count detected in the atmosphere is either because the surface-level generation goes more intensively that antocopated, or because the phosphane decays slower that anticipated, or something else is generating phospahne in the atomospere.

  • @actuallyharuto2382
    @actuallyharuto2382 Před 3 lety +4

    Imagine we find life in venus first and we were in the wrong focus on colonizing a planet

    • @theothertonydutch
      @theothertonydutch Před 3 lety +3

      Just because life exists somewhere doens't mean we should colonize it. In fact I'd be ethically against colonizing a planet with life on it.

    • @hhale
      @hhale Před 3 lety +3

      In terms of difficulty, Venus would be a whole lot more complicated to colonize than Mars, even though the distance to Venus is shorter. You can't land on Venus. Well you can land, but it would be a death sentence.

    • @xFATMAN192x
      @xFATMAN192x Před 3 lety +2

      If Venus has microbial life in its upper atmosphere that’s pretty cool. But it doesn’t change that fact that the surface of the planet is an oven/ pressure cooker. If you wanna colonise Venus it’s gonna be a Star Wars Cloud City knock off. We’re better off terraforming Mars. Although, the biggest problem with Mars is the radiation.

    • @barkmaker
      @barkmaker Před 3 lety +2

      The survival of humanity is paramount. By colonizing another planet, we increase the odds of preserving humanity greatly. I think that because of this, colonization should take priority over discovering extraterrestrial life.

    • @actuallyharuto2382
      @actuallyharuto2382 Před 3 lety

      Well either way its gonna happen since we are gonna get too over populated in the near future and its an advancement on interstellar travel

  • @badmonblaze7633
    @badmonblaze7633 Před 3 lety +4

    I’m not a wonderful person 😝 . Love this channel

    • @DrMackSplackem
      @DrMackSplackem Před 3 lety +1

      Ah, you're okay.

    • @hollykeefer6103
      @hollykeefer6103 Před 3 lety +1

      Yes you are!

    • @ajin5706
      @ajin5706 Před 3 lety

      @@hollykeefer6103 You toooo!!!! 😁😁

    • @ypey1
      @ypey1 Před 3 lety +1

      I felt excluded as well, not wonderful
      at all... waiting for the day he starts like: hello you ffing bastard

    • @DrMackSplackem
      @DrMackSplackem Před 3 lety

      @@ypey1 One can be both, you know. People are complex, if nothing else. I guess it's a question of one's personal identity. Maybe there should be a "Science For Bastards" channel to compete with this one. Then again, those obsessed with their social identity don't have any room left in their minds for anything else, so it would probably be a big flop.

  • @airstar8799
    @airstar8799 Před 3 lety +1

    Excellent analysis of information at hand. Keeping biases out and being realistic. If only our leaders of this planet and the people who place them have such common sense. Our future would be brighter instead of darker

  • @oceanblueheart1472
    @oceanblueheart1472 Před 3 lety

    I think you already pointed it out of Space Rocks having composition of the stuff. What was found on Venus is a Space Rock that landed there.

  • @Mike-mc3sh
    @Mike-mc3sh Před 3 lety +6

    Ok but what about the other amino acids? Life cannot occur with just one amino acid.

    • @joeyg29jgjg
      @joeyg29jgjg Před 3 lety +1

      We ain't just looking for complex life chap!

    • @faarsight
      @faarsight Před 3 lety

      @@joeyg29jgjg Any life needs more than one amino acid, not just complex life. At least any life that is similar to earth life.

    • @robertracicot7232
      @robertracicot7232 Před 3 lety +1

      @@joeyg29jgjg even very, very, very simple life can't occur with just one amino acid...

    • @FungIsSquish
      @FungIsSquish Před 3 lety +1

      One is better than none, if we can find one, I’d say there’s a good chance at finding more

    • @Mike-mc3sh
      @Mike-mc3sh Před 3 lety

      Yeah saying complex life was dumb, so I just changed. ANY life cannot occur with just one amino acids. Even viruses that are technically not living need more than one amino acid to have it's host make proteins.

  • @minotaurbison
    @minotaurbison Před 3 lety +9

    Hello wonderful person, this is Doosh Baggins... I love Anton's intro's

  • @chaztech9824
    @chaztech9824 Před 3 lety

    We need more Antons!

  • @xspotbox4400
    @xspotbox4400 Před 3 lety

    It makes a perfect sense close by planets contain similar surface chemical composition, but different chemical processes, for many reasons. Most important are distance from a sun and gravity, since temperature and time directly influence chemistry. It could be sun is pushing complex chemistry away from it's center, how and why is another matter.

  • @shesmypresident1637
    @shesmypresident1637 Před 3 lety +4

    Chew on this weenie here; The clouds on Venus are water clouds .. The surfrace of VENUS is hot and dry because the rain that falls evaporates before it makes it to the surface

    • @manuelc3671
      @manuelc3671 Před 3 lety +2

      I think the atmosphere of Venus is ~80% CO2

    • @shesmypresident1637
      @shesmypresident1637 Před 3 lety +3

      @@manuelc3671 On the surface .. What I'm getting from the reports is Cloud based lifeforms (and lots of it) 63 miles above the surface of VENUS it is Earthlike conditions. so we got at least 30 miles of dense cloud vapor for life to thrive in (But not life as we know it) We need to send a balloon with cameras there

    • @krillin6
      @krillin6 Před 3 lety +1

      Wrong.
      The clouds are mostly sulfuric acid. Try again after learning how google works.

    • @shesmypresident1637
      @shesmypresident1637 Před 3 lety

      @@krillin6 You actually believe in the bias Google Search results? Please understand ; Nothing in this world works the way you think it does *NOTHING* .. We live inside their kill grid.. They will suppress information like they do technology .. They release information when they feel they can get labor from us (MONEY) to discover something they have known about for 50 + yrs .. Scientific Grants = Scientific discoveries Conspiracy is the reality ..Now, Go ahead and roll your eyes ..

  • @scottvino1141
    @scottvino1141 Před 3 lety +3

    Please be life 👍

  • @antoniomonteiro1203
    @antoniomonteiro1203 Před 3 lety

    I like very much your videos and your explanations of such a diversity of subjects.
    If I may suggest an improvement, it is very simple: it seems to me you keep talking around the subjects after having explained them very clearly.
    So, I would see as a beneficial thing if you managed to be more centered on the subject and shorten your videos, say cutting 1/3 of the time.

  • @WilliamFord972
    @WilliamFord972 Před 3 lety

    Glycine is the simplest amino acid. It is also the only achiral amino acid. Due to its small size, glycine plays an important role in protein flexibility.

  • @leandromuniz2708
    @leandromuniz2708 Před 3 lety +3

    I was starting to think I wasn't wonderful today

  • @LouisHansell
    @LouisHansell Před 3 lety +3

    RNA/DNA needs phosphorus. Does Venus have enough phosphorus for life?

    • @arthemis1039
      @arthemis1039 Před 3 lety

      That excludes the idea life can exist without DNA or RNA but another things.. That's one of the most amazing things with exobiology

    • @ahmedhussain4665
      @ahmedhussain4665 Před 3 lety

      @@arthemis1039 amazing or not, it has to fit with science, and a form of genetic material is necessary. Though we can get into silicon based compounds that would mean different compositions for genetic material, but I think carbon is high enough on Venus so carbon-phosphorous bonds still seem like the most viable option.

    • @LouisHansell
      @LouisHansell Před 3 lety

      @Thomas Chrombly Sure. Tell me how phosphine becomes adenosine triphosphate, which is the important part of RNA/DNA.

    • @LouisHansell
      @LouisHansell Před 3 lety

      @Thomas Chrombly The devil is in those details you don't know about.

  • @ganzrawr5334
    @ganzrawr5334 Před 3 lety

    Great vid!

  • @lociflow6154
    @lociflow6154 Před 3 lety

    9:53 what song is that in the background? Good video as always anton!

  • @timpeters7852
    @timpeters7852 Před 3 lety +3

    We're looking for earthly life tracers here. There's a good amount of observer bias involved

    • @teaser6089
      @teaser6089 Před 3 lety

      Yes, but actually no. You don't look for something you don't know exists, there is a higher chance that life just like us exists than another form of life. Carbon chemistry is the best chemistry our universe can produce, other forms could exist, but they aren't as good/favourable as Carbon.

    • @timpeters7852
      @timpeters7852 Před 3 lety

      @@teaser6089 I see. Where does the boundary lie between having some complex hydrocarbons that resemble the ones we have in our genome or proteome lie and making a statement about present or past life?

    • @timpeters7852
      @timpeters7852 Před 3 lety

      @@teaser6089 I see. Where does the boundary lie between having some complex hydrocarbons that resemble the ones we have in our genome or proteome lie and making a statement about present or past life?

    • @teaser6089
      @teaser6089 Před 3 lety

      @@timpeters7852 You are talking about "earthly life tracers" We only know of 1 succesful type of chemistry, so it's not worth looking for other types, especially when we aren't even sure if any of the other types could be practically possible.

  • @ageofprowl3127
    @ageofprowl3127 Před 3 lety +3

    So if we found other Venus or Superhabitable Venus they could be the real deal as far as we know now.

  • @harrycandlish7998
    @harrycandlish7998 Před 3 lety

    Amazing Vids!

  • @Patmccalk
    @Patmccalk Před 3 lety +2

    3:30 this is the most humble and honest thing you could say here, you get a ton of respect points from me for being such a wonderful person.
    We still don’t know nearly enough about Venus to jump to the conclusion that “it has to be life” total Occam’s razor situation.
    We understand so little about the Venusian geology that it would be rather silly to just rule out the possibility of replenishment through alternative methods

    • @DarkSleuths
      @DarkSleuths Před 3 lety +1

      It would also be rather silly to think that it is NOT life, which would mean completely throwing out everything we know about chemistry and assuming something we've never seen before is happening in Venus, which is almost less likely than it being some form of life.

    • @Patmccalk
      @Patmccalk Před 3 lety +2

      PaxTV to assume even bacterial life though is not the proper way to go about this, especially since the ONLY life that we know of, the very existence of it, relies on hydrogen in some way or another.
      Keeping in mind the Venusian atmosphere is a mere .002% water vapour, that leaves very little room for any form of life to take off, that we currently know of.
      Go with the answer that needs to assume the least, that answer from my viewpoint is this is likely some form of as yet to be discovered geological activity, the surface there from what we can see is remarkably different than ours, so we can’t base our understanding 100% on the geological activity of the earth.
      But if you want to believe it’s life even though that’s a huge assumption to leap to, you will believe just that, there’s no changing someone’s viewpoint in a CZcams comments section.
      I’d say remain skeptical, but I think you need to become skeptical to begin with, so I’ll leave that in your hands