The Strange and Absurd Rules Of Elizabethan Manners
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- čas přidán 18. 06. 2024
- England was the clear winner of the latter half of the 16th century. Flourishing under the reign of their industrious and stylish monarch, Queen Elizabeth I, it was between 1558 and 1603 that England emerged as the world’s first real superpower.
Elizabethan England also saw the birth of a cultural and courtly movement that makes even the most stringent and alien ritualized historical decorum look like totally reasonable practices. Sure, England was winning history at the time, but some of the rules of aristocratic etiquette they and the rest of the world operated under were straight up bananas.
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"bad manners brought about shame and real social consequences"
Sounds like something that should be reintroduced into society.
I have good news and bad news : the good news is that this concept never changed. The bad news is that we just lie about it nowadays. But people are still keeping receipts, my love.
Honestly. I don't want to blame individuals for this, as it's an overall social trend, but people don't seem to have any pride or sense of shame anymore.
Yes!! I couldn't agree more
Do you genuinely want to be unable to shop at your local grocery store because you used the wrong fork at dinner or farted in public?
@@emilybarclay8831Yes. Learn the right fork peasant! Lmao
I don't understand why they keep using pictures from entirely different eras. I understand that stock pictures are limited but this is how misinformation starts.
Why don’t you work for them and do a better job
Yeaaah, this is the internet after all. Gotta take everything with a grain of salt and or do your own research.
You answered your own question. Very few stock images so unless you want to watch the same 3 pictures the whole time, then just sit back and listen. Don't be a negative Nelly. Pretty sure we can all figure out obvious victorian drawrings are victorian. Or medieval, let me add that before I get beaten with the pedantial stick.
Always one historian
Because this is an entertainment show... Most people are entertained...
Not being able to pet any cat or dog that came near me at dinner would 100% get me banned from Elizabethan high society. Would be worth it.
Me too 😂😂
Gross
Me three.
@@KAT-dg6el 💯 agree
Yep. I pet my dog whenever I can do I'd get banned
I am an old geezer and I remember back in the day we, as kids, were sent to classes at the Officer’s Club to learn dancing (which I hated) and basic etiquette. Because, god knows, there’s nothing more insufferable than a middle-class snob. My mom and grandmother were something of a walking encyclopedia regarding those rules they were taught as children. I haven’t been to a dinner party in decades where a fish course, you know with its own knife and fork, was served. Some of these rules of etiquette had really practical (for the time) reasons but others left me gobsmacked. I remember one rule my grandmother followed which involved not wearing platinum jewelry before 5pm. WTF?!
I'm going to guess that platinum, being more expensive was considered "flashier" than gold. I'm a Boomer so might be wrong, but even today a woman doesn't wear showy, obvious jewellry during the day.
EG the only time you see a royal in a tiara in the daytime, they're getting married, and even the Queen used to just wear a brooch and occasionally a one strand necklace for most daytime events.
I remember our knife set, (50+ years ago) had a fish slice. Never used as such but in came in handy for cake lifting!
Was that the officers club in Cuba along with Col. Jessop (apparently bad manners were code redded)
Or the country club Cameron talks about to Edward (apparently waltzing in and out is banned)
My great-grandmother always told me that girls, meaning unmarried women, were not supposed to wear gold
@@helgabutz8232 they would have to wear pearl necklaces given to them by eager boys till then
The Earl of Oxford left England for 7 years because he was so embarrassed about farting in Queen Elizabeth I's presence. When he returned, Elizabeth said 'My lord, I had forgot the fart!'
I saw that on the QI channel :)
"To make sure you weren't packing ye old heat" 😂😂
I can see we human truly never learn from our history.
I could imagine myself being around back then, seeing all these things, and saying "too many rules, staying home"
They'd drag you out then put you in a stockade, then
Bombarded with rotten fruits you would have to go home and change
Those rules so stifling.
1) Please make a video about Emma Goldman!
2) I am half Swedish half Tunisian. In Tunisia usually after shaking ones hand; men put their hand against their chest/heart and women kiss their own hand as a sign of appreciation for the person they just shook hands with.
3) If you do go back to the Elizabethan era do not bring with you the Joe Cocker song "You can leave your hat on".
*seductively strips for you with hat
Emma Goldman was a Jewish radical Communist.
@@coloneljackmustard nah mate! Try anarchist.
Such a great channel. The narrative is perfect for me. The mix of humor and history, but mainly the narrator himself makes this channel.
He does!
Personally I find him a bit over the top. Many things taken out of context. The humour is a little dated and reminds me of some old guy trying to be cool.
Good god , you don’t come hear for history do you?😂😂😂😂
@@QPRTokyo why are you even here
@@QPRTokyo old guy… lol . This is CZcams not TikTok
Ok, “packing ye olde heat” got me good🤣
I went back a few seconds to make sure that’s what I heard. 🤣🤣🤣
That part had me cackling
Lines like that are why this narrator will always be completely irreplaceable. His timing and delivery are on another level 😁
There should be ones on manners in cultures like Ancient Imperial China and Feudal Japan
Even in the US Army today when walking with someone of senior rank, the junior should be to the senior's left and slightly behind. The Army claims it's from when we wore swords so the senior could draw and fight if need be. I've personally always felt it was a hold over from days of old when the so-called masses stayed to the left of royalty and nobility.
You don’t have any tradition it’s all made up.
@@manmaje3596 By that logic there are no traditions anywhere since everything was made up at some point in history.
I don't mind to teach people good manners, but the strict rules of the Elizabethan Era really takes the cake.
I prefer to think Blackadder II is how Elizabethan times really were.
Probably a 50/50 on that I’d reckon.
You mean it's not?
“You mean to say that you crap out of the window???”
Sounds like you got that list of table manners from my parents
Haha 😂😆
Mine too. Napkins on your lap😂We even had to ask to be excused when we were finished eating. My mother was all onboard with table manners.
So far @3:20, the only thing I wasn't taught as a child was "wear tails".
However, tails certainly weren't around in Elizabethan times.
Ive got a tail on my hat like Davy Crockett
@@nolesy34 yeah but did you kill a bear when you were only three?
@@bilindalaw-morley161 close... i was 2 and a half
Hey, for all her faults, Elizabeth was the one to put a legal end to Surfdom. So she wasn’t all bad. Even this high brow lady saw that it was absolute nonsense.
surfdom is up!
Serfdom...surf is waves against the shore....serf is servitude
Not exactly the way it happened.
In England, the end of serfdom began with the Peasants' Revolt in 1381. It had largely died out in England by 1500 as a personal status and was fully ended when Elizabeth I freed the last remaining serfs in 1574. 👍
👵🏼 - ‘Good morning officer’
👨🏻🏭 - ‘MADAM YOU FORGET YOURSELF!!! 👋🏼💥’
I was made in America with Scottish parts. Mum was a grammar nazi and all this shit is actually old news to me and I'm glad it's
Now, for something completely different.
There are still etiquette classes. When I went to visit family in the Caribbean I did like a three weeks course and even got a certificate. 😊
wow, what kind of etiquette did they teach you?
@@jeanneann3545 Well mostly how to prepare a table. What to do with your hands on a table. No elbows on the table. Which fork and spoon to use. How to use it properly. The book on top of your head. So how to properly walk. More modern etiquette. What not to say at the dinner table and a bit of cooking.
@@jazcc please, do me a favor ans tell me about the book on top of the head thingy! did you have a hard time?
I obsolutely hate getting forced to follow etiquette, but it does fascinate me!
@@jeanneann3545 You basically put a hard book 📕 on to of your head and try to balance it while you walk
@@jazcc i dont know why, but that sounds so cool. you have no idea how some people basically make earthquake when they walk, and its unrelated to their weight.
i feel like that lesson should be helpful for some people hahaha
"How rude!", she exclaimed, as she pooped out the window into the street below.
Pshaw. Louis the 14 th had more rules and just as nutters. But it kept his enemies close and he could control the state that way I adore weird history and always learn something new though. Thank you!
WTF...WTF...Ahmazing video. Seriously, you guys have never made a video I didn't find fascinating, and worth another watch. Thank you!
When I was a friends place for supper, it was in the 70’s and I was about 10. I got told not to have my elbows on the diner table. Lol
Rightly so or use the fork like a shovel lol
my step grandmother used to slap our elbows and if we used a fork in "the wrong hand" she also slapped our hands and took our meals away she was horrible if I'm honest she really thought she was upper class living in a council house
@Miss Steak my best friend growing up told me stories of her grandmother stabbing their elbows with a fork if the kids had their elbows on the table. 😳
It really is uncouth, though. Why do you even need your elbows up there?
@@bcaye leverage on the table to reach salt, grab best chicken wings, self defence if siblings take said chicken wings etc
Very detailed and interesting thanks for the upload. Also very interested in court etiquette from different European courts if you'd make a few would be so appreciated 🙂
As a child, I was taught to always behave with a "modicum of decorum".
I too as a youth was told to dress, for succces,
I was also told once, ive got the look
Nana nana na
Nana na nana
Nanna nanna na ba
My mom would always say "Stand up straight, shoulders back" and "dignity and decorum" 🥰
If I'm unfortunate to find myself in the 16th century, I'll make sure to leave my party hard hat on and forget to kiss my hand lol
We call the Naval Academy “Knife and Fork School”.
Rugby has rules? I thought it was “kill the man with the ball”.
Some of this needs to come back as normal
Like?
Nearly all the table manners for one
@@noneyabizz8337 I thought those are still in force? I got reprimanded y my mother for acting like a pig in the dinner table, and that was nearly 15 years ago...
@@theotherohlourdespadua1131 I've eaten with several people who seem to never have heard these things
No
2:33 we're all wearing the same outfit, and we're all going to like it
Utah Pinterest moms be like
I'm glad I was born in modern times.
Sure I might offend some of the Upper Crust. But they'll strut around and say what is to be done with this Homer Simpson.
Please do a video on interracial relationships from the past🥺
You mean Slavery.
Woke!
Probably not a ton to write home about considering the limitations of travel the further back in time you go. And it would get people cranky to be honest
There isn't much to talk about, they all can be resumed to: it was considered weird at the time and everybody complained but the couple remained together anyway
There is another race besides human?
Packing ye olde heat ... omg I don't know why but that threw me into a giggle fit 😂
Given that the main purpose of etiquette, as I understand it, is to ensure that everyone knows what's expected so that they need not wonder & feel awkward, this is even funnier.
Burping the alphabet is a must at my dinner table.
"Ye old heat!"🤣🤣👍
No petting dogs or cats?!? Well, I would never had made it in Elizabethan society.
while you eat? you can't hold off for a few minutes? wow
@@linebrunelle1004Are you for real??
Lol, same here. 😂 100%
A+ video!
LOVE IT! What a fascinating topic, social events must have been complicated!
I would like you to make a video on Pocahontas
Well that’s demanding. Just because you watched the video, doesn’t mean you’re entitled to sit there and make demands. Ironic you ask rudely for a video about manners. You’re not his employer. You don’t get to tell him “I like you to make whatever”
Also people get an ant in their pants just about the Disney movie. A fictional story based on a real person where they had creative library because it’s a movie. Yet people treat it like it a poorly written documentary. Which it isn’t. How bout you make one and you can deal with the crazies that rear their ugly heads?
@@bennu547 it was not rudely asked so get your facts right I was just asking and for you to come out here and say that is beyond me 😂
As you said do t scratch self I was scratching self. My childhood friends grandma made me do no elbows on table.
It's...monty pythons flying bollocks.
"Resist the temptation to pet any dog or cat that passes by." Welp, I'm out.
at the dinner table. especially during meal times due to the diseases and bugs the animals carried in those days.
First of all, there must be no cat or dog nearby.
In my house the pets are put into their room before visitor arrives.
“Packing ye old heat” 😂😂😂 Too funny! 😅
Lord almighty I would’ve been kicked out so fast. Elbows on the tables, scratching yourself, blowing on your food… not to mention I definitely would forget to take my hat off more than once 😅
Oh I cannot resist to pet any cat that approaches me🐈
Fantastic video keep it up your doing amazing job
Great video! 🏆
Informative while being hilarious.
Thanks! 😊
I agree with you! 😄✨
Just so you know, the electric slide is bad manners, unless you in 1989, and even then, only if you were drunk at a wedding (and screwing it up) or a 12 year old girl
Yes, good manners. They smelled like dead possum smothered in cheese wiz, but hey, they had good manners.
Lol
mmmmm cheese wiz
I guess nobody would notice if everyone smelled equally bad all the time. But they simply lacked hygiene due to lack of opportunity to wash themself often I guess. Maybe clean water was limited/unavailable or at least in the winter half year way too cold and no way to keep yourself warm during and after a bath
How wonderful!
Delightful!
Maybe a little rigid, but something much needed in today's society.
7:26 omg- not the ye olde heat, anything but that lol 😂
Omg, "dinner was a minefield," I laughed so hard. All those manners and now ppl watch South Park. 😆
Weird, you should put those background music titles (especially that medieval-y sounded music at the end) or link in the description...
The Queen would of have a heart attack if she came to my house for dinner.
Your mom comes to my house for dinner
have would have
Tough times to be alive that's for sure..
Indeed
It's interesting that the highest compliment given was that one had good manners.
I was shunned for body popping. I showed them all though when I moon walked out of there while using the wrong spoon.
Can you please do an episode on the Abbasid caliphate, specifically on Queen Zubaida and Harun al Rashid, and their relation to the Arabian nights tales?
I would also like to see this
Elizabethan meeting the Queen: ''I'm humbled, your majesty''
Elizabethan meeting the homies: ''What's up MFers ?''
Please do a video about the history of Burlesque or different famous Burlesque artists throughout history 🙏
I am a Debutante, I attended etiquette school in throughout the entirety of grade school and during my time modeling.
What state are you from?
@@Oozes_Dark Virginia
Here you go, I guess: 🍪
Hell no! But I love the way you tell it. Still my number one favorite CZcams channel!🦋♥️🦋
Interesting! Love your vids…
Love the channel, but I don't think you can say Elizabethan England is the worlds first true super power. Certainly the Macedonian, Roman and Mongol empires certainly should all qualify, along with several others.
This era was dying for a punk scene.
Can u do what wealthy looks like at that era compared to now?
Sposedly Jizzlane is teaching etiquette classes in prison.
true!
Other people could have fur, but there was a whole code, and ermine was royals only. The lowest was squirrel, I think.
I’ve read a lot of books etc. about English history, but have never, ever heard of the practice of kissing one’s own hand.
The Electric Slide is *always* good manners 😎👍
Oh, good, our narrator is back!
I'm no professor but I can certainly tell 19th century imagery from 16th century Elizabethan imagery. That's a good 300 years and miles apart from the world just emerging from the middle ages.
I took etiquette classes in the church my family goes to. There was a lot of young girls, older women and one boy.
it's hard to hold myself from yawning for hours and hours
What song is played in the background at the beginning?
No one likes a kiss ass. Great advice
Where, pray tell, would someone acquire the, ahem, Party Naked hat?
What's the composition at the beginning called?
I'm not sure about kissing my own hand lol...but, It would be awesome and respectful for every country in world to provide manners school yea.. that would be great. Caz these days (pickny) which means kids in my country are rothless..everywhere
@@user-ym1xi8oi3f rare o hear anyone say so.. that's awesome tho.
they may seem Strange and Absurd by today's standards...but at least they had some. Simple manners seem to be in short supply these days
I can draw a lot of parallels between this and current military "manners", especially in guard regiments
Wonder what the punishment would be for ripping a wind biscuit in front on her majesty?
@@KAT-dg6el you win
I tried looking but couldn't find one. Do you have a video already on the history of women's rights? I heard rumor that up until the 60's or 70's, doctos didn't even talk to the woman about her health. Only to her father or husband. Is that true, Weird History?
No. I was there.
depends what country you were in
I would like to know more about the regency era 😀
Interesting
We still have some of these rules today. Elbows off the table and passing food to the left around the table.
In Vulcan table manners food is passed to the right.
Do a video on the Halifax Explosion. 🤯
3:00 tails in 16th century England? this outfit came to be centuries later
Why so many illustrations from Victorian, Edwardian and Stuart era in a video about Elizabethan England?!
At 0:48, the picture on the screen is of Queen Victoria's marriage, during the Victorian Era, not the Elizabethan. That's a completely different time!!!
Actually, now that I'm paying more attention to this, I will ssay that a lot of the pictures don't match up with the correct time period. I love the content - it sounds super interesting. But man, couldn't you get paintings from the actual Elizabethan Era? Wayyy too many pictures don't make sense!
I could never make it in that society
Imagine having to two step before talkin to the president then fake kiss his knee 😭😭😭😭😭
Could you do a video on Elizabeth 2? Etiquette? 1953-2022?
A couple of things I recall about her is, no clinking of ice cubes, stir your tea back and forth in the cup not in a circle and of course when she finished her meal everyone was done and I heard she ate rather quickly.
Styles do come back into fashion! Kissing one’s own hand looks a lot like the whole scene thing where you cover your mouth with your hand in selfies.
I am a fairly good dancer, but the layers of clothing one had to wear then might make it slightly difficult, but I think I'll manage..
It isn't true that only royalty was allowed to wear fur. That's ridiculous and surprising that the makers of this video didn't realise such an obvious mistake. Perhaps they read that only ermine fur (white with black spots) was allowed to be worn by royalty and misunderstood this to mean all fur. What is the point of these history videos that aren't fact-checked? Come across far too many obvious errors like this that make it seem like a robot is creating these
I'm all for teaching kids the importance of good manners, it can help more than one would think
At the same time, I don't think beating them was,well,..a great motivation