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  • čas přidán 23. 04. 2024
  • Fabian and Rowan are seeking £50,000 in return for a 2% share in their business Quarter.
    Season 20, Episode 13.
    An international sensation, Dragon's Den features entrepreneurs pitching for investment in the Den from our Dragons, five venture capitalists willing to invest their own money in exchange for equity.
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Komentáře • 174

  • @Moinul987
    @Moinul987 Před měsícem +93

    Deborah's offer at 10% was more than they deserved imo

  • @mauharley
    @mauharley Před měsícem +57

    The company name is Fractions Drinks Ltd. Based on their last set of accounts in 2022, they'd raised 580k in share capital, but had an operating loss of 354k. Touker is right. Valuing a business based on projected turnover rather than profit is nonsense.

    • @yesboss8438
      @yesboss8438 Před měsícem +5

      Thank you for doing gods work for us 😊

  • @ppmm2708
    @ppmm2708 Před měsícem +119

    What a muppets. Declining lousy 10% for such critical boost they would receive from a dragon. Hilarious.

    • @user-bh4tg9vu5u
      @user-bh4tg9vu5u Před měsícem +4

      They’ll get a better deal elsewhere. They got the marketing they needed just by appearing on the show. Definitely not muppets.

    • @YoutubeWatts
      @YoutubeWatts Před měsícem

      @@user-bh4tg9vu5u Her connections in that specific industry are worth the 10% they are muppets.

    • @user-lg6hw7li5z
      @user-lg6hw7li5z Před měsícem +1

      You know nothing about business

  • @sanjuansteve
    @sanjuansteve Před měsícem +87

    That's a ridiculous valuation for how little they have in sales, with no IP.

    • @tullochgorum6323
      @tullochgorum6323 Před měsícem +9

      Precisely. The offer was more than generous - they are muppets to turn it down.

  • @jameshealwriter
    @jameshealwriter Před měsícem +52

    That pitch was only 25% strength 😂

  • @gwheregwhizz
    @gwheregwhizz Před měsícem +87

    That branding looks like Morrisons Savers.

    • @JesseLeePeterson9
      @JesseLeePeterson9 Před měsícem +5

      Happy shopper looks better

    • @EZ-D-FIANT
      @EZ-D-FIANT Před měsícem +2

      Funny you say that cos it's exactly where its going....😂

  • @lancealex382
    @lancealex382 Před měsícem +62

    This is what mixers are for ffs

    • @kris5187
      @kris5187 Před měsícem

      problem with that is you cut the flavour profile with the alcohol content so it's more akin to the mixer than the cocktail

  • @joerussell9574
    @joerussell9574 Před měsícem +33

    I can water my own drinks down...these guys are jokes!

    • @Erickhetfield
      @Erickhetfield Před měsícem +3

      Did you watch the video? Sara addressed your point.

  • @janlassen6101
    @janlassen6101 Před měsícem +18

    ''The Walking Braindead'' ....A series coming soon to netflix.

  • @jay_nou
    @jay_nou Před měsícem +12

    They're obviously not here for a deal, but what disappointed me even more is that the clock in the corridor before the lift doesn't work. I was eager to see the time difference between entering and leaving the den, unless they spent 24 hours there l😂

  • @BLZLdn
    @BLZLdn Před měsícem +15

    I love Sara she's so cool and down to earth!

  • @jamieleroy4243
    @jamieleroy4243 Před měsícem +22

    With Debrah’s contacts, they’re gonna regret that.

  • @ma12sh
    @ma12sh Před měsícem +24

    vodka in midi- full vodka in schooner-1/2 vodka in pint - 1/4 ? these guys must never go out ? wish i had the idea to water down drinks....

  • @TheManInBlueFlames
    @TheManInBlueFlames Před měsícem +4

    If you dont want to drink why not just QUIT drinking or drink zero percent alcohol? Alcohol is overrated anyway!

    • @adashofbitter
      @adashofbitter Před 17 dny +1

      By that logic, if you do want to drink, why not become an alcoholic drinking 2 bottles of rum a day!

  • @kimjongbingbongtingtong4430
    @kimjongbingbongtingtong4430 Před měsícem +18

    This has been on trial sale for years - just tastes pretty awful. Drink or don't is my advice

  • @josephaku9631
    @josephaku9631 Před 12 dny

    The way Tukur adjusted his posture while Debra spoke, was funny. He could sense a better offer coming from her.

  • @JesseLeePeterson9
    @JesseLeePeterson9 Před měsícem +9

    Happy shopper put more effort into their branding

  • @arnaudd.5525
    @arnaudd.5525 Před měsícem +28

    There are so many very good alcohol free alternatives these days. This seems like a worse alternative to those.

    • @VladmirPoopN
      @VladmirPoopN Před měsícem +4

      This wasn't about being alcohol free; it's about less at a time.

  • @Nick-7432
    @Nick-7432 Před měsícem +124

    Walked away for the sake of 1.5% is madness!!!!

  • @josieann5031
    @josieann5031 Před měsícem +32

    Why not just put less alcohol in when you mix a drink.

    • @SamSam-xb1ur
      @SamSam-xb1ur Před měsícem +7

      That's hilarious you're absolutely right

    • @jack-a-lopium
      @jack-a-lopium Před měsícem

      Heheh, that's great... but honestly: it's for clubs/pubs... and taxation. But anyway, didn't happen.

    • @Erickhetfield
      @Erickhetfield Před měsícem +3

      Watch the video. Sara answered your question already.

    • @beeble2003
      @beeble2003 Před 21 dnem

      Because then it tastes more like the mixer and less like the spirit.

  • @seanlohan6215
    @seanlohan6215 Před měsícem +4

    School boy error declining the 10% and the branding makes it look like white spirits bottle from a DIY store.

  • @thevalkyrie8
    @thevalkyrie8 Před měsícem +4

    They just wanted exposure hence smirking at the end in the elevator

  • @Kasperbjerby
    @Kasperbjerby Před dnem +1

    We have a brand new concept! Watered down alcohol, cause that is not something every bar and disco has done for ages to save money 😎

  • @dusk_en
    @dusk_en Před měsícem +7

    Thank you for making my breakfast better

  • @Eggmodz
    @Eggmodz Před měsícem +8

    I only drink once in a blue moon and I want to get rat-arsed when I do, so not for me. I don't understand why anyone would want to drink unless to get drunk anyway. I don't get it

    • @hollybuckley182
      @hollybuckley182 Před měsícem

      Because alcohol tastes nice? That's a bit like saying why eat chocolate unless to throw it up from overeating.... people enjoy it in moderation

  • @LTSmash414
    @LTSmash414 Před měsícem +3

    They've never heard of "single in a tall glass" eh

  • @roberths7282
    @roberths7282 Před měsícem +1

    …and you’d have to pay 4x the price to get trollied! 😂

  • @allrightden5732
    @allrightden5732 Před měsícem +7

    Is that Deborah using a plastic straw? 🤔

  • @l2sunshine173
    @l2sunshine173 Před měsícem +2

    I hope i remember to look at their Web site in 6 months,which i won't...

  • @Erickhetfield
    @Erickhetfield Před měsícem +2

    Where I live there a dozens of drinks like these and they have been around for quite some time. I'm assuming the same goes for most of the world. I don't get what "new category" they are talking about.

  • @leeatkin9583
    @leeatkin9583 Před měsícem +9

    What a couple of planks.....

    • @Car-crazy
      @Car-crazy Před měsícem

      Actually they are not. They were never after a deal, they just wanted free exposure and advertising for their business, which they got.

    • @leeatkin9583
      @leeatkin9583 Před měsícem

      @@Car-crazy Yeah.....I have a working brain, thus, I did manage to work that out. But thanks anyway.

  • @oz1erol839
    @oz1erol839 Před měsícem +5

    1.5 % whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat

  • @coxie2foxy
    @coxie2foxy Před měsícem +7

    Don’t think these guys value a dragon

  • @vailototafea7089
    @vailototafea7089 Před měsícem +2

    Debra gave a good deal ...they are going to regret it...ohh well win some loose some...

  • @akwamarsunzal
    @akwamarsunzal Před měsícem +3

    Brandy? I don´t think so! Brandy has to be 37.5% to be called brandy! Unless things have changed of course!

  • @felix1974
    @felix1974 Před 15 dny

    Fabian and Rowan, sound like good public school names, I'm sure they'll be able to suck up any losses comfortably

  • @Evskin
    @Evskin Před měsícem

    3:52 lol Pretty funny seeing them wriggle and tell figures that contradict their valuations.

  • @MyFoodeater
    @MyFoodeater Před 4 dny

    Didn’t even want to negotiate with Touker

  • @Mike-jl2kp
    @Mike-jl2kp Před měsícem +2

    You have to wonder what their current shareholding is - im guessing its quite low that they couldnt even budge another percent

  • @aroemaliuged4776
    @aroemaliuged4776 Před 19 hodinami

    Is adding a mixer not reducing the alcohol content?

  • @TheTravellerPk
    @TheTravellerPk Před měsícem +1

    1.5% nothing will loss for them., They supposed to be accepted

  • @Erickhetfield
    @Erickhetfield Před měsícem +2

    The brand is not good. It looks very "classic" or even dated, while the target market is young people. I don't think it would stand out in the shelves.

  • @Jasper-Holland
    @Jasper-Holland Před měsícem +3

    The greedy boys

  • @JohnSmith-cs7jg
    @JohnSmith-cs7jg Před měsícem +4

    Just put less spirit in your drink! Also will be cheaper! These two are so deluded it’s unreal. 😅

  • @scrtco
    @scrtco Před měsícem +2

    Pour in less spirit and more mixer?

  • @tonto2455
    @tonto2455 Před dnem

    They must have been drinking the product to decline her offer.

  • @YoutubeWatts
    @YoutubeWatts Před měsícem +1

    You can't go in the den with less than 10% equity on offer, this isn't a series A round 🤣

  • @sorj
    @sorj Před měsícem

    Would it not be more cost effective to just buy a big regular strength bottle and use more tonic water?

  • @Nigelfarij
    @Nigelfarij Před měsícem +8

    There are quite a few health claims on the product - e.g. vegan, low calorie. I don't think you can make health claims on an alcohol product.

    • @Erickhetfield
      @Erickhetfield Před měsícem +2

      They are not "health claims", they are accurate descriptions of the product. Unless they are false, they should point the positives of their product.

  • @hellegennes
    @hellegennes Před měsícem +1

    I am really annoyed when entrepreneurs come in for an investment and they either lie or demonstrate a complete lack of awareness of the market they are trying to enter. Their story is that they wanted low alcohol drinks for such and such reason but couldn't find any, so they created their brand. What a bunch of nonsense. The market is chock-full of low alcoholic drinks or ones that are completely free of alcohol. Big brands, small brands, local brands; they all offer low alcoholic options. That means they are either dishonest or don't have a clue about their market; either case is an awful sign for a potential investor.

  • @johnhewett9483
    @johnhewett9483 Před měsícem +2

    oh well, thats blown their chance of success, silly boys

  • @robs5855
    @robs5855 Před měsícem

    Should have offered the difference in advisory shares.

  • @moogleking
    @moogleking Před měsícem +2

    Lol left for 1.5% what muppets

  • @stephenturner6075
    @stephenturner6075 Před měsícem +5

    A pair of fools

  • @WhiterunGuard11998
    @WhiterunGuard11998 Před měsícem +2

    Smart guy, but he just doesn't get it. So hung up on the numbers he forgot what's actually important. Real entrepreneur would have jumped at the business opportunity.

  • @TashaC7
    @TashaC7 Před 20 dny

    Why didn’t any of them mention how bad the branding is?

  • @JosephFrain
    @JosephFrain Před měsícem +2

    Where is this company up to now 2 years on from the den? Anyone know? Did they do the right thing for 1.5%?

    • @JohnSmith-cs7jg
      @JohnSmith-cs7jg Před měsícem +3

      Doubt it mate, it’s a ridiculous idea

    • @JosephFrain
      @JosephFrain Před měsícem

      @@JohnSmith-cs7jg I just googled their company, seems they are stocked in a lot of places well it was dated 2022 so don’t know about 2024.

  • @DeathStarGaming59
    @DeathStarGaming59 Před měsícem +2

    they are complete idiots for turning down debra .

  • @A380_Flyer
    @A380_Flyer Před měsícem +3

    When I was at uni there was a drink called Snakebite. Anyone else remember exactly what it was lol

    • @jordans4448
      @jordans4448 Před měsícem +4

      Snakebite is half lager half cider 🍺

    • @humeyboy
      @humeyboy Před měsícem +2

      Cider+Lager and some bars make it for you but the loophole is to ask for a pint of Diesel and they make one and top it off with Blackcurrant.

    • @dsgrbrowne1
      @dsgrbrowne1 Před měsícem +1

      People add blackcurrant...just makes it too sweet.

  • @angelakelly3679
    @angelakelly3679 Před měsícem +1

    That branding looks awful and cheap. Imagine refusing that offer..... Not a good decision at all.

  • @charlisays
    @charlisays Před měsícem

    I think their audience personas were written to fit their product and not the other way round. Ive never seen or heard of someone asking the barman for their lighter drink recommendations. Fitness freaks either dont drink or have just one.

  • @TrampolineCulture
    @TrampolineCulture Před měsícem +2

    Spoiler blocker

  • @Goku9000
    @Goku9000 Před měsícem

    WHY WOULD THEY DO THAT??!!

  • @mikeh2006
    @mikeh2006 Před měsícem

    7.5 was a good offer.

  • @zamanzafar9562
    @zamanzafar9562 Před měsícem

    Lool this was clearly free marketing strategy from them

    • @dsgrbrowne1
      @dsgrbrowne1 Před měsícem

      But nobody is gonna drink it. So...

  • @Reinonordinn
    @Reinonordinn Před měsícem +8

    Did Jenny mention she's out?

  • @hunterxhunter777
    @hunterxhunter777 Před měsícem +1

    15:24

  • @GrandEmporer
    @GrandEmporer Před měsícem +1

    Just add a bit of water. Problem solved. Ridiculous business idea.

  • @barryrawlings7592
    @barryrawlings7592 Před měsícem +3

    silly lads being greedy

    • @AntonioAniello-hg4xk
      @AntonioAniello-hg4xk Před měsícem

      Lads weren’t being greedy they were protecting their business and other investors also had a fair bit of equity in their business so these guys probably had very thin margins to play with!

  • @WattzOrJerk
    @WattzOrJerk Před měsícem +1

    They will regret this

  • @vailototafea7089
    @vailototafea7089 Před 9 dny

    Not good should have taken Debra's offer ...🙄🤔

  • @xhildahysa2000
    @xhildahysa2000 Před měsícem

    I wonder how is this brand doing?

  • @peterd788
    @peterd788 Před měsícem

    This is nothing new. In Japan and other areas in South East Asia diluted and under-distilled spirits are commonplace but mostly don't gain purchase in Western markets.

  • @JoeChief_
    @JoeChief_ Před měsícem +1

    what muppets!

  • @Nomuch2say
    @Nomuch2say Před měsícem +3

    What younger people are drinking less?

  • @TYNEPUNK
    @TYNEPUNK Před měsícem

    the dragons always make out theyre proper alcoholics.. if it was any other drug theyd never do that. why is it cool for them to be like dude im desperate for a drink. and clearly they arent.

  • @user-zp4hs9kn5s
    @user-zp4hs9kn5s Před 29 dny

    This is not new this has been done before, ie Iceland has brandx low strength brandy . Absolute rubbish

  • @cormac2515
    @cormac2515 Před měsícem

    What a load of crap…this is literally why most people mix their drinks 😂…put less alcohol and more mixer = problem solved

  • @MrDavfit
    @MrDavfit Před měsícem

    not without Debra

  • @johnchapmonkey8933
    @johnchapmonkey8933 Před měsícem

    Easily copied by big names if a success.
    Gins done rums next big thing.

  • @johnwhelan6862
    @johnwhelan6862 Před měsícem

    their on dole now

  • @jonnyhawkins7744
    @jonnyhawkins7744 Před měsícem

    Rowan was useless in this pitch. shouldnt have bothered in turning up

  • @therealbeepo
    @therealbeepo Před měsícem

    these guys are more delusional than diluted

  • @nigelwilliams9307
    @nigelwilliams9307 Před měsícem +1

    How can they have a net profit with a minus figure? Surely that's a net loss..

    • @rleriche5044
      @rleriche5044 Před měsícem

      That's what the - is for

    • @nigelwilliams9307
      @nigelwilliams9307 Před měsícem

      @@rleriche5044 They made a loss. A loss is a net loss, not a net profit.

  • @andrewmacleod5826
    @andrewmacleod5826 Před 27 dny

    smarmy sods

  • @frozengamer3030
    @frozengamer3030 Před měsícem

    These guys are really dumb for declining the offers.

  • @Cavscout101
    @Cavscout101 Před měsícem +1

    1:12 pretty sure this is called being an alcoholic

  • @shahidulkabs5775
    @shahidulkabs5775 Před měsícem

    Diiiikkkhedsss

  • @rogerreed905
    @rogerreed905 Před měsícem

    They should of talked exit plans . . . Build the company Create market share . . Sell to a major . Like Bacardi .

  • @user2kffs
    @user2kffs Před měsícem

    This decision was bad PR

  • @RickallsBushcraft01
    @RickallsBushcraft01 Před měsícem +1

    Too many adverts, therefore I'm out!

  • @Farquad76.547
    @Farquad76.547 Před měsícem +1

    1rd

  • @shahidulkabs5775
    @shahidulkabs5775 Před měsícem

    Wankkkkeeeaaassss

  • @alexhill315
    @alexhill315 Před měsícem

    Terrible decision hahah

  • @olimot8081
    @olimot8081 Před měsícem

    Debbie gets so salty when the deal doesn’t work out

  • @joshjordan1486
    @joshjordan1486 Před měsícem

    Barbra rung, she is out.

  • @danhojo30
    @danhojo30 Před měsícem +1

    1st

    • @Farquad76.547
      @Farquad76.547 Před měsícem

      Not even close Danny boy

    • @loopykill
      @loopykill Před měsícem +2

      @@Farquad76.547 i got two comments before the pair of you pfft, im out, amateurs!

  • @loopykill
    @loopykill Před měsícem +3

    here beffore jenny is out!!

    • @loopykill
      @loopykill Před měsícem +2

      or beforwe toukka and that tiktok guy fall out!

  • @Cavscout101
    @Cavscout101 Před měsícem +14

    Or maybe everyone should stop drinking poison....

    • @SP-ie1vx
      @SP-ie1vx Před měsícem +7

      Welcome, sanctimonious commenter.

    • @BenjaminGoose
      @BenjaminGoose Před měsícem

      Enjoy your long, miserable life.

    • @ANGELSURS
      @ANGELSURS Před měsícem

      Liver😊

    • @kevintwine2315
      @kevintwine2315 Před měsícem

      Nothing wrong with letting your hair down from time to time, or in my case every day 😂

  • @lovehealth-je6co
    @lovehealth-je6co Před měsícem

    Boring pitch