Genesis P-Orridge : guru of the occult, industrial music and pandrogyny (2012) | Tracks ARTE
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- They're of the most striking character we've had on the show: Genesis P-Orrdige is the master of chaos, smasher of boundaries.
The British musician and performer had been pioneering industrial music since 1975 with their band Throbbing Gristle, and later with Psychic TV, before they dabbled in the occult with their Temple ov Psychic Youth. A legendary maverick in the London underground, Genesis came out with the pandrogyny project with their wife Lady Jane, met in a BDSM dungeon in New York: a new kind of being, made out of two parts, looking more and more alike with the help of plastic surgery.
The year is 2012: from the comfort of their New York appartment, Genesis opens their door to show us their extensive library, where the Psychick Bible, several compendiums on free communities and the complete edition of the Marquis de Sade sit next to each other. Seven years after Lady Jane's death, they still refer to themselves using "we".
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Genesis once said, of Throbbing Gristle/Coum, that they "found a hole in reality and led other people through it" which I just love.
Genesis P, dropping the truth and prophesising where we are now from 2012.
I mean, anyone that isn't legally retarded can see the path we're inevitably going to take...
I don't think that's quite accurate. She's in with The Process and they have some... strange ties to the intelligence community. She probably knew the plan like many others did long in advance. The U.S. is essentially a Thelemic state at this point so it wouldn't surprise me.
Yes, and he died on 14th March 2020. He was lucky not to witness what happened since then.
A talk about viruses and how to survive on a hypothetical total collapse of economics.This interview is almost prophetic.
Really? It's prophetic to predict what is happening now?
@@tartgreenapple Due to he said it in 2012, it could be…
@@tartgreenapple this was done about 10 years ago, not now. He was a visionary and saw the world for what it truly is
@@miked3168 like his good friend nikolas Shrek prophetized
Absolutely!
I listened to Throbbing Gristle sometime in 2017 during a really rough time in my life. It resonated very deeply I was in very a dark state of mind I thought to myself... 'this is definitely the sounds of a WORLD IN DECAY". Im from India, used to work in a horrible dead end job, doing much better now....at the time everyday I would wake up in depression, hopeless, thinking about how much the world had changed for the absolute worse ..all my dreams gone, pushed to the side, possibly erased. I'd see the rising commercialism, blind consumption, overpopulation drastically escalating with years gone by, masses of less fortunate people living like cattle in terrible conditions, abject poverty, hunger, suffering, apathy. Yes they call India a developing country, it's a farce, there's a very big dark side to it, the national leaders here are experts in coverups some of the biggest scumbags you'll see. The whole thing with Throbbing Gristle just reiterated the fact that humanity was always fucked. People had lost their minds long ago. Things were far from normal before the virus. its quite the contrary.
great comment. deserves lots of likes
Same in Mexico 🙌
Generally people who already had it rough don't have much of a reaction to media sensationalism because there is no shock to be had, it doesn't really reveal anything new about the world. On the other hand, the more comfortable someone is with the status quo the stronger they react when something outside of the ordinary happens.
At least the food is good in India...and the sunshine!
That’s cool you like gristle almost shock musick with other cultures the majority of India people I’ve met are nice been a industrial fan since h.s. years
For once CZcams recommends me a video that’s actually important.
LOL
Je crois qu’il me répugne autant que je l’aime. Je l’ai vu en conférence au début des années 2000, il était invité par l’université de concordia à Montréal, il parlait de pandrogynité et de transhumanisme. C’était un visionnaire. Bien sûr il a souvent tors, et aucune des phrases qu’il choisit d’assembler n’aurait vu le jour sans une grande quantité de drogue, mais sa capacité à explorer toutes les idées et avenues sans peur ni censure était rafraîchissante et l’est encore plus de nos jours.
Marquee de Sade didn't suck
Dans la bible psychique il parle de son temple ov psychick youth et des sigils il dit bien que l'on peu fabtasmé sur n'importe qui n'importe quelle âge cela m'a repugner
I could listen to Genesis talk all day. What an insightful person
RIP
Tracks est réellement une émission remarquable. Genesis était un personnage - un artiste - hors du commun et c’est touchant de voir sa mémoire honorée.
Tracks....Oh mon Tracks, comme je vous aime toute l'équipe ! 25 mn de l'immense Genesis P-Orridge, c'est un cadeau du ciel ! Merci ! / Sutton, Québec
RESPECT & R.I.P. Genesis P-Orridge & RESPECT Tracks ARTE. Amitiés. NiVek-K 🎹🎹🎹
Genesis was a living paradox. Tremendous rational intellect and some crazy paranoid conclusions and some insightful ones as well.
What a unique yet unifying way to view our world and how we choose to navigate it. Genesis really seems to have taken every fear or question of the unknown and run headlong right through it to get a real answer. But I gotta say the shirt is hilarious, says HORMONES at the top and has the names of pharma estrogen, progesterone, and water pills around the crest. That's so perfect.
a take off of the old Ramones t-shirt
I'm always a person who is always thankfull when I am so lucky to get to see, listen, and hear someone like this !!
Not to even mention everything they are talking about was from 2012!!! Yet I totally would have sworn it was just talking about the past year and current times of 2020/21..
Thank you for sharing your thoughts and thank you for creating the video abd sharing it with us .
Thanks Arte tracks pour mettre a l'honneur ce personnage exceptionnel!
ouai enfin elle raconte plein de trucs super bateau, s'extraire de la possession et de la jalousie...mouai...pas ouf
Il ne raconte que des connerie et banalités.
D'une tristesse sans fond.
J'ai eu la chance de voir Psychic TV à Paris en 2016. Repose en paix, Genesis.
j'avais raté mon train ce jour là j'étais ultra dégouté encore plus maintenant haha
@@underthepiey 😭😭😭
Quel chanceux tu es ! Ça devait être un évènement magnifique 😊
Enfin un média français qui parle de Genesis ! Merci Arte !
Tracks avait déjà consacré un reportage à Genesis en 2004 !
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@@TRACKSARTEFr Oh merci beaucoup ! J'avais 3 ans !
@@d_lt5643 On fait bien de reposter nos archives haha
grand merci pour cette émission :)
@@TRACKSARTEFr on se sent vieux par contre xD.
Pour moi track c'est tout simplement la meilleure émission du PAF et je suis ravie de pouvoir de nouveau la regarder sur youtube
"Viruses" mentioned at the outset. Rest in Power Genesis. 🕉 .
Gen was on the money!
HA HA HA HA Oh please give us a break.
yes, you see.. "you had to be there.." in 1990 ptv released toward thee infinite beat and toured the u.s. that summer we were also reading a new publication from the church of the subgenius. the volume included a short story by author "waves forest" about a virus taking over the world by controlling humanity to make everything the way it liked it. so it's really a very 'pop' idea for our generation. of course it's all the apron lodge bubbas obviously. everyone else is being murdered by the secret services of course.
It's not like viruses didn't exist before Covid, FFS.
Fantastic interview. Thank you !
As a Chinese fan of throbbing gristle, I was completely shocked when genesis pointed out that China was a totalitarian capitalism country and treated people like animals. Just take a look at China today, Genesis is truly ahead of his time. Both a great musician and pioneer thinker.
You Chinese spread Covid and didn’t disclose what is going on. That doesn’t happen in Western capitalist society. Enough is said
Je l'ai rencontré à San Francisco en 1985, lorsque je travaillais pour une boutique sur Haight Street. Nous avons passé plusieurs heures ensemble pendant environ 2 jours. Il nous a donné des billets pour son concert dans un petit club du quartier de Tenderloin. Il voulait essayer une période Peace and Love lorsqu'il faisait un numéro en solo. Il a acheté des vêtements des années 1960, et a dit qu'il était allé aussi loin qu'il le pouvait avec la période de la musique industrielle, que quelque chose devait changer, que le monde avait besoin de paix et de l'amour.
Je l'avais vu avec le groupe Psychic TV à San Francisco en 1980 avec Chris et Cosey et Sleezy. Leur Song Disipline était incroyable.
вам повезло!!
Quel chance ! J'imagine que vous en gardez de bons souvenirs ?😊
Genesis again predicting the future back in 2012. This is why it's a tragedy that she's no longer around. She had a foresight into our future from day 1 ! A true "Guru" from the western world.
"Totalitarian Capitalism" = Kamala Harris & Joe Biden. The poor plebs, were told by the media
that the Dem's were the good guys. There are no good guys.
@@WolfsH0ok neither are republicans
@@andrejkabal497 its not about republican and democrat
if you think they are two sides. you have been duped
All comes together. Love ARTE, always loved Throbbing Gristle. Thanks for the wonderful interview.
Love that Herbie Hancock album as well...
incroyable tracks, vous avez refait ma journée. Interview superbe, vous êtes les bests !
es ce que j'ai le droit de sampler potentiellement ? (please please please ? -> NoTiD)
Vu sur scène au festival psycho Las Vegas c’était intense !!! Quelle prestance , quel amour débordant 🖤👌
One true TOPY tribe.Thanks for everything Gen. You and Paula were my best friends when I lived in Brighton U.K.
See you in the Summerlands x
Fascinant et un peu flippant a la fois. J'ai beaucoup apprécié !
I wish they were still around.
Me too. I just only recently found out about tg and themself.
What an intelligent person! Rest in peace my friend.
Yes very intelligent and has a higher consciousness
Merci pour cette version longue. R.E.P Genesis.
To all who who strive to be original in a copy/pasted world, youre not alone. I certainly feel less alone after watching this. To the future 🍻
Fantastic. Prescient. Thank you!
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Hadn't heard of Genesis before today; what a wise person, I'll definitely be looking into their work in more depth. Thanks for posting ....DA
J'étais passée à côté de ce personnage et de cette interview, mince, je les découvre trop tard pour le célébrer de son vivant mais merci pour la découverte (et concernant le documentaire, je n'avais pas 3 ans en 2004 j'en avait 13, on fait comme on peut :D).
pas de regret: l"essentiel de p-orridge est dans le 20e siècle, c'e Throbbing Gristle; années 70, Psychic tv 1980s 90s, le chainon manquant entre rock et techno. Je te souhaite autant de plaisir à découvrir historique qu'on en eut à l'accompagner grandir. La chapelle était restreinte, elle a démesurément grossi en influence. C"e l'avantage d'avoir des goûts. Incidemment il e presque seul à avoir popularisé tatouages et piercings, qu'il portait 10 ans avant tout le monde.
@@archaic9525 super sympa merci :) :)
Merci ARTE pour cette interview de Gen, une sorte de trésor visionnaire terriblement d’actualité ...
I would love to have inherited Gen’s book collection!
Thanks for the upload ☺️
What a lovely interview
The problem is not over population. It's mismanagement of resources as a result of unrestrained capitalism. People have been blaming overpopulation as the downfall of man since the 1800s when we had 5 billion less people.
@Joe Mama I would say no because capitalism makes overpopulation a need for survival because it does not evenly distribute resources to the poor so they over compensate by producing in larger numbers. If education and other resources were evenly distributed people would have less children.
The same Genesis died was the day Covid19 officially entered my country (Uruguay). I happened to learn about his demise just before going to the last wedding party ever held in the country before the lockdown, where I met a friend and we talked about his death and shared our astonishment. To me it felt like he knew, and now I KNOW he knew....
Then it follows he didn't take experimental injections.
Merci, ça fait un bien fou, rip.
Merci , ca déchire !
Jesus promises life in abundance he is the answer to our fallen state
Throbbing Gristle is a fantastic band.
Good to see Phil Collins going in a different direction.
Disrespectful
😆👍
😂😂
Such a beautiful soul! Great interview. 🖤
seriously, what a fcken legend! cheers!
Definitely the definition of Art.
Prescient B! I love you always. ❤️
One of our generations great minds. Still ahead of the curve today. You will live forever in your influence and insight.
I would love to know the books collected. If anyone has a link to a list or can make a partial list please post it for everyone.
a true patriot of love and exploration of self, a real god-star.
Yeah hahah, well I can see why this has been uploaded now ahahahah.
Awesome interview.
Cutting the crap Gen was a idealistic individual that wanted a better society. GEN wanted people to find their full potential within this chaos of this world and being fearless.
Fascinating interview!
丰 L-Ov-Ǝ 丰 Back in no time... until then, will miss my sister Gen. Rest In Power. Gen & Jaye, together again (Re-United.) 丰 TЯ23 丰
How in thee hell did u make the psychic cross character?
@@acidbat4441 丰 also translates from chinese to "abundance"
the psychick cross is found in quite a lot of cultures in the spirit of gen; it is shared & belongs to no one
@@acidbat4441 It is thee (simplified) Chinese "fēng" - en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E4%B8%B0
"It was first seen in oracle-bone inscriptions. The ancient characters looked like trees planted on a mound."
"(Mandarin) The appearance of lush vegetation."
"fēng" pictogram. The shape of an oracle bone, with a jade shape on the top like a utensil, and a "bean" (ancient container) on the bottom.
Therefore, "feng" was originally a ritual vessel containing valuables. "a device for rituals."
WƎ are thee device, WE are thee vessel.
Thee symbol can be saved, copied & pasted. We enjoy your performances & music by the way.
丰富
proud member of thee temple of the psychic youth here!
What is Vince Neil talking about?
trying to get people to buy tickets to the crue reunion shows!
ah yes, throbbing gristle, major throwback
Crazy how spot on they are about everything that has happened. RIP Genesis
Thank you, Arte
Heck, Gen! You were on the money, mate!
what a fascinating human
GODSTAR
A true genius, one of the last poet that lived.
PTV and TG changed my perceptions and my life
the things i would do to be in this library RIP Legend
Fantastic 👍 This explanation of infinite economic growth is spot on. It's total bullsh!t
She literally predicted corona virus
I like génesis... A lot.... specially with Peter Gabriel!!!!
quel bel esprit...!! intelligence, clairvoyance...et surtout LIBRE !!!
Oh Genesis ❤️🙏🏻❤️
ULTIMATELY CAPITALISM AND ECONOMIC GROWTH IS UNSUSTAINABLE ! ! !
Makes you wish more people were as intelligent.
I miss you, Genesis . You were so beautiful.
Come on.
@@bungle3912 Well, here we go again. What I find absolutely mind blowing, is that I cannot make a positive statement on an artist that I admire, without reading an opinion from somewhere in the Ether. If you personally don’t like the video or the person being interviewed,;or maybe you have no idea who the person being interviewed is, that’s fine. On to the next video, right. I suggest watching a video about football or bikini bike week. By the way, the ability of a person to create a following and a tangible lifestyle unrelated to any current form of superficiality, from just an idea is a thing of beauty. Since you felt the need to comment on my statement. Now, off you go.
@@jeffsthill8208 There are many positive things you could say about her, but beautiful? Come on.
My goodness, you’ve got a lot of time on your hands. Clearly you weren’t listening to what was being discussed during the Interview; nor did you read what I wrote in its entirety. Let me spell it out for you. A mind is much more beautiful than the body that houses it can ever be. Did you understand that statement? Did I confuse you? Oh well, I have to start working. Tschüs !
@@jeffsthill8208 You’re the one sending waffle replies. You’ve clearly got time on your hands.
speaking oh how viruses gonna get us all and him dying in 2020 when the pandemic started is just another level.
Son appart était super bien rangé !
Thee GOAT. Love you Gen.
Whats neato is Genesis and all he/she did got so incredibly big in America almost to the point of mainstream at the time they died - that he/she will be looked into like into Burroughs well into the future. I'm glad he/she put out the books and articles to remind the future in case they forget what/who he/she was.
Yeah, Burroughs is still the Father of all that is good in the Post Industrial Universe. You a fan?
was/were
@@Valhalla13375 good juan
Merci Tracks ♡ j'ai acheté La Bible Psychique . RIP GENESIS
Merci ❤
Gen always was clairvoyant. ♥︎ Big love to Lady J. One of my heroes.
Lady J would of lived longer if she hadn’t hooked up with Genesis.
I sure don't know. Their love seemed genuine stomach cancer- like love never guaranteed
What a majestic intonation and a manner of speech
So inspiring interview. I'm glad to finally watch Genesis 'live', even though I read his/her interviews for a long period of time, it's always a new thing.
Anyone know that song in the end, though? It sounds so lovely... I would love to know who wrote that. If it's PTV, then forgive me, but I don't know well discography :
The song at the end is "Kiss Me (Maggot Brain)" by Psychic TV & PTV3.
@@TRACKSARTEFr Thanks so much, ARTE
The song is based on "Maggot brain" by Funkadelic (1971), an incredible guitar solo by Eddie Hazel.
My goodness- he predicted COVID becoming the dominant life form on the planet. S/He was an amazing individual.
"She" "Elle" c'est son pronom
Excellent.
"Kondole" m' avait beaucoup marqué au début des années 90, mais aussi "towards thee infinite beat" et "direction ov travel"
Kondole the Whale
Fantastic.
Mi adorada Genesis, ahora bailando eternamente con la Lady J
Miss Genesis P so much !
Thank the Gods for Genesis!
9 years later ....Gen did indeed meet Lady Jay.....
Lasted a lot longer than we "have"? have means we're no longer here.
I'm fairly certain we're still here lol
Sacré personnage avec un sacré esprit, mais j'aime beaucoup
Ask Cosey about like with 'them'. Abusers take many forms, but their essential nature shines through.
Haha between 2:00 and 6:00, it's like an interview of David Brent.
wahahahahahahahahaha.true.hahahahaa
Ahh, Genesis, one’s heart is warmed at the sight of them.
Those wonderings are deep, but not deep enough.
How can a sane human culture exist outside of a healthy natural environment?
Being utopian and idealistic, are you serving the world or you're serving your inner traumatized child that still wants it all "as it should be"?
Isn't self-hatred, though justified, just the other side of self-aggrandizement?
Key piece of information: humans didn't appear on earth to build this civilization and to become us. We are just one culture among thousands that existed before. We are only one culture that went crazy and turned the world into itself. But this was not meant for humans from the start. Read some Daniel Quinn, Derrick Jensen or Stephen Jenkinson if you want to learn more.
I still love you immensely for your music!
Good point on utopianism but it would be nice to have a world that admits to what it really is, and it's real intentions, rather than wearing a mask.
Was this part of the regular Tracks on TV or an only online doc? Thanks!
Genesis P-Orridge aka quand t'arrête jamais le chimique
so much love
Is not only :Break and cange your life. Sometimes is: keep your Kind of Life,but change your Reflexion about your Kind of life. ...so much is first a Mindthing
What an interesting person.
In pics when he was young he was ALWAYS unorthodox looking. Saying he was 'ahead of his time' is a lame lable- but he was.
I used to like Genesis P-Orridge.....until I read Cosey Fanni Tutti's autobiography.
Yeah, I’ve heard bad things about it. Care to sum it up?
@@duckacid Some physical abuse but mostly extreme mental abuse and mind games. They finally split up and she started dating another member of the band but somehow still worked together. I don't know how. They even did some reunion work later. I saw Gen one time when he was playing with a band called Pigface headed up by ex-PIL and Killing Joke drummer Martin Atkins. Those were great times.
A couple of murder attempts on Cosey, chucking cats around, and multiple tantrums directed at anyone and everyone just about covers it
The real reason why he escaped from UK is even more disturbing.... He/she /them was a genius artist but very obscure things about him/her/them and surrounding him/her/them...
@@danielabassano9528How so? From what I understand, he didn't "escape" anything (he was safely on vacation in Thailand!), and only used the situation to his benefit by playing the martyr card.