From David Duke to Donald Trump: The Rise of ‘Middle-Finger Politics’
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- Donald Trump can seem like a political anomaly. You sometimes hear people describe his connection with his base in quasi-mystical terms. But really, Trump is an example of an archetype - the right-wing populist showman - that recurs across time and place. There’s Jair Bolsonaro in Brazil, Boris Johnson in Britain, Javier Milei in Argentina. And there’s a long lineage of this type in the United States too.
So why is there this consistent demand for this kind of political figure? And why does this set of qualities - ethnonationalist politics and an entertaining style - repeatedly appear at all?
John Ganz is the writer of the newsletter Unpopular Front (www.unpopularfront.news/) and the author of the forthcoming book “When the Clock Broke: Con Men, Conspiracists, and How America Cracked Up in the Early 1990s (us.macmillan.com/books/978037...) .” In this conversation, we discuss how figures like David Duke and Pat Buchanan were able to galvanize the fringes of the Republican Party; Trump’s specific brand of TV-ready charisma; and what liberals tend to overlook about the appeal of this populist political aesthetic.
This episode contains strong language.
Mentioned:
“Right-Wing Populism (www.rothbard.it/articles/righ...) ” by Murray N. Rothbard
“The ‘wave’ of right-wing populist sentiment is a myth (www.washingtonpost.com/news/m...) ” by Larry Bartels
“How we got here (www.slowboring.com/p/how-we-g...) ” by Matthew Yglesias
Book Recommendations:
What Hath God Wrought? (global.oup.com/academic/produ...) by Daniel Walker Howe
After Nationalism (www.pennpress.org/97808122516...) by Samuel Goldman
The Politics of Cultural Despair (www.ucpress.edu/book/97805200...) by Fritz R. Stern
Thoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at ezrakleinshow@nytimes.com.
You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more episodes of “The Ezra Klein Show” at nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast. Book recommendations from all our guests are listed at www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-....
This episode of “The Ezra Klein Show” was produced by Annie Galvin. Fact-checking by Michelle Harris. Our senior engineer is Jeff Geld, with additional mixing from Efim Shapiro. Our senior editor is Claire Gordon. The show’s production team also includes Rollin Hu and Kristin Lin. Original music by Isaac Jones. Audience strategy by Kristina Samulewski and Shannon Busta. The executive producer of New York Times Opinion Audio is Annie-Rose Strasser. Special thanks to Sonia Herrero.
If you have any doubts about "trumpism" being a hate movement just watch a rally in totality. The only time the crowd responds at all is when Trump says something racist.. That's it
I mean, you're supporting a guy who voted to kill millions of non-whites in Iraq.
I don't find Trump charming or funny . He's dangerous and obscene.
Funny like Moe of Three Stooge's.
No, stooges are not funny. Trump's MAGA world is full of unaware stooges, and it's dangerous.
These guys are saying what the left has been saying for years...Republican voters are motivated by racism, tribalism, and social issues not factual analysis of policy issues and ideological divides on public spending. If they were motivated by the latter they would almost surely vote for Democratic politicians
Many do. I think that's the point. Empathy isn't sympathy.
@@jakebarnes28 You're completely right. There's a real failure of imagination on the left that keeps people from understanding how people could possibly like Trump.
What Trump did when he characterized Mexicans as rapists and drug dealers is that he brought language from the private, and in some confessional spaces into the civic and public sphere. In doing so he legitimized the use of such language.
a lot of people that i knew that i thought were good people came out then. it was kind of the great unmasking, when people showed how hateful and bigoted they really were.
John Ganz far over-reaches in his take on Trump as a rakishly charming populist who has his finger on the pulse of American discontent. He extols Trump's supposed virtues, describing him as " charismatic, funny, highly intelligent," and that his movement is "joyful and a lot of fun." He compares him to an endearing mobster like Tony Soprano, saying that he "gets" the appeal and that most Americans like gangsters. Give me a break. I don't like gangsters or "humor" based on cruelty and to me Trump is none of those things. While it may be fun for his supporters to play "Middle finger politics" and party at rallies does that make the cruelty, racism, autocracy, bigotry, anti-science, nihilism, etc-OK? The Romans thought it was fun to watch people and animals fight to the death, should we bring that back too? What happened to ideas, policies, ethics and morals?
The creature is unintentionally funny to me.
Trump,Freddy Krueger'son,unintentionally funniest speeches.
"We pledge to you that we will root out the communists, Marxists, fascists, and the radical left thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our country," he told a New Hampshire crowd.
So Trump is going to be rooting out the fascists,and then it goes on to use fascistic language, slogans and analogies.
so is it going to be rooting out the embodied fascists within itself is it, it's going to exercise it's own personal demons.
So are you Americans voting for Trump in November, are you all voting for Freddy Krueger's son?
So come November, will it be Freddy Krueger's son versus cowboy joe, the so-called leader of the free world?
is it going to be tweedle dee or tweedle dum, probably partners in crime aren't they?
Vote Freddy Krueger's son back in, in November and people can get back to the golden age of insults, not so golden for those on the receiving end, was/is it?
Let's all hope and pray, that Trump (Freddy Krueger's son) doesn't have a judge who is impervious to evidence. lol
Seriously, people swooned over Hitler, and regular people participated in Nazi crimes. It's not amusing and underscores the danger to the country. Give people more credit, we all don't live thru the lens of ignorance, sensationalism, and find the snake oil salesman ," legit and entertaining".
Yes , I agree , our collective humanity needs a Renaissance of Unity , Vision , ideas , Universal Values and Principles to evolve toward human solidarity on the Real Important Issues afflicting humankind and find solutions !
He would agree with most of your points. Obviously, those of us that listen to this podcast do not see any virtues in the "face of fascism". Ganz is only trying to help us understand how MAGA-ism gained the solid support of at least 25% of the American public. As well as its roots in American culture. (KKK, Lindbergh, Pat Buchanan etc.)
every sunday our 'gladiators' compete in the coliseum too .. americans spend $350 billion a year on beer chips and sports betting but won't support our allies for a fraction of that expense ...
Now i finally understand the term "big dick energy", it's not having one, it's BEING one...
As I see it, Trumpism is a professional spectator sport model of politics. You cheer for your home team, even if the home team has bastards on it, or even if the other team might have some redeeming qualities. THAT is the level of engagement with politics that many people have, and dare I say it's probably what motivates most of those who cast votes. It's sad, it's reductionist, it's pathetic ... but it's reality in the US, where pre-college education has been gutted, teachers have been shafted, and the economics of the family has everyone working to pay higher and higher costs of living and higher education. You can't expect most people to take politics seriously if the society doesn't take them seriously enough to see them through to being invested in that society.
Hope Trump doesn't have a judge who is impervious to evidence. lol
Trump's unintentionally funniest speeches.
"We pledge to you that we will root out the communists, Marxists, fascists, and the radical left thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our country," he told a New Hampshire crowd.
So Trump is going to be rooting out the fascists,and then it goes on to use fascistic language, slogans and analogies.
so is it going to be rooting out the embodied fascists within itself is it, it's going to exercise it's own personal demons.
So are you Americans voting for Trump in November, are you all voting for Freddy Krueger's son?
So come November, will it be Freddy Krueger's son versus cowboy joe, the so-called leader of the free world?
is it going to be tweedle dee or tweedle dum, probably partners in crime aren't they?
Vote Freddy Krueger's son back in, in November and people can get back to the golden age of insults, not so golden for those on the receiving end, was/is it?
That might be the best way I've ever read it explained!
Frank Zappa - Lost Interview - Problems with Democracy(6-7)
This segment features Frank dissecting democracy. He reveals that 1 man 1 vote can be manipulated by the control of information.
Both teams are bastards and Taylor Swift won't change anything by getting young people to vote,
Same problems now as frank Zappa spoke of
in the video.
Excellent analysis. Just so very sad.
Wow, Pat Buchanan was on the forefront of mainstreaming the "Great Replacement Theory."
It isn't a theory
@@kg356 So what....it's dumb to be scared of it. It's been happening since the beginning of time. We replaced the Neanderthal.
@Despondencymusic Nothing is mote frustrating than when people act like the result of immigration policies are some kind of force of nature. "Since the beginning of time." No - population replacement is happening now in the West because our politicians are allowing it to happen. The question is why.
@@kg356 Do you really think it can be stopped with "immigration policies". I'm talking about the "replacement". This is so naive. 1. About 90% of the population of Earth is not White. Think about it. Nine out of every ten people are not White. 2. The population of the world is ever more mobile. Because of everything - advancement in communication, advancement in transportation, desire to get better education in other parts of the world, everything. 3. The young population is mainly in Africa and Asia, the predominantly White nations are old (Europe) or not young (North America). I do not know if many people can even imagine a country like Pakistan, in terms of total population and its age. 244 million people with average age of 20(!) How about Nigeria, with its 225 million people at average age of 17(!!) Somehow that ocean of young, active people will remain locked in place? In 21st century? No, it will not. It will go all over the world - some in Europe, some in America, most will stay home ofc, but these are just 2 of the countries, I can write 5 more examples. Or ten. 4. More and more the companies, employers, institutions are recruiting worldwide (see point 2.) and do not care if the person who fits the requirement is White or American. From their perspective is dumb to care about that. If you want a fun, "mirror" example, look how NBA got 'whiter', when the recruitment went worldwide and the biggest stars are guys like Jokic and Doncic... I can give you at least three more major points, but let's cut to the chase - the really dumb thing is to see all of these things like "a conspiracy against the White people". Somewhere, an evil cabal is plotting how to replace them with Black gays! Nope. It's a natural process and that is the main reason to be "unstoppable". And the idea that somehow, we (I'm as White as they come, btw) are going to build a big fence and live in our own world is nonsense.
@@kg356maybe because it's not illegal to seek asylum here. Unless you're Native American you're an "immigrant " too. In fact , an "invader".
Modern right-wing ethnonationalist populism has a lot to do with the rise of social media IMO. It's difficult to think of another reason why politicians like Trump, Modi, Bolsonaro, Duterte and so many others would suddenly get elected in countries across the world. Ethnonationalist demagoguery and conspiracy theorist fearmongering is probably just the lowest common denominator to mobilize people, and where previously elites were able to smooth off the rough edges with their control of party politics and the media, with social media and the internet the floodgates opened.
Holy shit!!! They FINALLY get it!! Congrats sir!!
Thank you, Ezra, at 1:10:20 for calling the only question that matters at all in the situation where the nation finds itself. Given what we all witnessed on 01/06/2020, how can he be polling as he is? To characterize John Genz's response as unsatisfactory is an understatement.
The truth is sometimes unsatisfactory 😢 most of those who will vote have made up their mind where they stand on the issue, which leaves people who are apathetic enough that they might not vote. These are the type of people who don't really pay attention to politics. You and I are here at the New York Times podcasts - they are watching March madness, or football, or influencer content about makeup tips or how to invest right or deal with crooked friends. Fox News and other right-wing outlets are more likely to migrate into their stream of recommendations. And they don't care, they are not making a herculean effort to curate things in order to get the best opinion for what's good for the country they just have a feeling about how things are, which they have gotten from what is lying around, and that will guide how they vote if they do vote at all. Jan 6 was an ugly day, but it was just a day, life went on, and most people are not afraid of democracy being in danger. The country looks too deep-state-ish and sclerotic to change that violently in that direction to a lot of them (truly, little do they know).
The truth sucks sometimes. Here's hoping the Dems can turn this around, but there's no denying it's where we're at.
@@Pafemanti Well stated.
@@Pafemanti So come November, will it be Freddy Krueger's son versus cowboy joe, the so-called leader of the free world?
is it going to be tweedle dee or tweedle dum, probably partners in crime aren't they?
@@Pafemanti "The truth sucks sometimes."
It does with all those Zionists sycophants, doesn't it?
here's some truth for you all, can you handle it.
$100,000 worth of fibroblasts from a single foreskin, now YOU know Why YOU don't have a foreskin.
Is the male Circumcised penis, the mark of the slave,the mark of the beast
the slave mark of yahweh?
I still recall I had my best life in my best places, my best partner and dreams and my best plan for the future 4 years ago under Donald J Trump's watch. Clearly the core message is that Fascism has not and will not work for the economy, cost of living and most of all, overall happiness. Big Corporations and Boomers should not try to hold the rest hostage for their own short term ideologies. Pls take personal accountability first about what went wrong and what can I help before being too judgemental and opinionated just by repeating the MEDIA'S narrative in politics. He got paid for a script but not the rest of us, the audience Make your own opinion and then decide the best candidate for the country. Not for your job, your retirement etc but for the country. Thank you
Absolutely the BEST interview about our former president, including the historical pathways of how we got here. I’ll probs listen to it again.
Definitely will listen again.
Really interesting!!!! Just fascinating
Thank you
“Vote for the crook. It’s important.”
What isn't offered is a deeper understanding of how the human mind is hard-wired. If there was more understanding of the psychological make up of people, then how people are attracted to ethnonationalism, racism, and bigotry wouldn't seem so foreign, nor would Trump and other Right Wing appeal be such a mystery. Trump may only appeal to a certain percentage of the electorate, but that electorate represents every type of person in society, from the most educated and wealthy to the less educated and poor. As for Trump not having an organized group of Brown Shirts, if elected again, he aims to deputize the sheriff departments across the nation as well as having the US military at his disposal.
I suppose I gotta order this book, but I’ve got another book to read, Limitarianism.😅
Ezra, you’re really juiced about Trump😊😊😊😊😊! You’re sincere and persevering in the Gaza series, but with this topic you bring a whole lotta energy to this discussion 😂😂l😂
Its not that people like him, its someone and something else making him relieved!
Good discussion. Don’t forget how music, rhetoric, and attention drums up a following. I am hearing an excitement from John that troubles me. Because trump can incite - doesn’t mean it’s organic,. That ‘my fellow citizens’ - as our population is known as- are being led, steered, humored, humiliated, confused by media doesn’t allow journalism to get on that train.
That he creates fear in the people they want to feel afraid… rings so true to me
He combines the traits of a stand-up comedian, a revival preacher, and carnival barker. He's not lovable or smart or morally upright. He convinces you that society is falling apart and then says "Look who is in charge now - Obviously we need another way of doing things" As a total techocrat, I admit its hard to say "trust the experts" at the same time as "trust the average joe"
How could you ignore the influence of Ross Perot had in 92. Ross had it won until GWHbush spooked him. That summer poll I can still see on the CNN screen 33/30/30 Perot was in the lead (then Ghwbush spooked him...
He has also gained a lot of support because certain people think he is going to bring back the good old days.
The days when you could move through a city without being carjacked?
Look at who the electorate has been electing. The advocate of change candidate. Anybody who not the same old, same old.
Bill Clinton cool sax player, Obama is real change a blackman. Hillery an old bureaucrat; to unexciting, John McCain greatest generation grandfather a perfectly exceptable cross ballot candidate goes nowhere. Bernie Sanders scarse the hell out of the establishment, fine anybody else.
Trump is let it all burn down vote.
Excellent by Ganz. He seems to get it.
Yeah, imagine how funny Hitler and Mussolini were. Horrific crimes against humanity, especially for the out-group can stop the functioning of one’s funny bone, don’t you think.
brill convo
Very interesting history lesson.
you know there's left wing populism too right? and if the right/left populisms ever combined....look out
I say, if two left the front door of a house and one went right and one went left they would meet in the back yard. Someday right and Left will combine for a Third way- Perot. Trump, JFKjr, somewhat
One thing for certain NO WARS right and left agree on that.. And how that's accomplished is Trade/ Business/ which is what trump does.
Lookout for those Maoists!😆
@@56spider you see that is what is truly dangerous. The notion that Trump is this business /deal wizard is just completely detached from reality. He was born with a silver spoon in his mouth - he was a troubled malevolent kid - who's father admired that type of behavior. They were mob associated and played the system to maximum economic advantage. - His father capitalized on post war building boom and government subsidized housing -and made a fortune - always breaking laws / norms to do it - but always had ways of paying people off or protection - the son attempted to expand on that and has failed every time. I grant you he is a talented self-promoter - but in terms of business or negotiations - he is a buffoon and a legend in his own mind. Our most arch adversaries - are ecstatic about the idea of Trump presidency. He is a vulgar ignoramus that is turning US hegemony into a laughing stock. I love the story Chris Christie told about working with him on the transition team after he was elected in 2016 - a couple days after the election - he gets a call from the president of Egypt - to congratulate him - in the process - Trump mentions to him that he always loved the song - "walk like an Egyptian" I always find it ironic that no one makes the connection - that Trump grew up only a mile or two away from where Archie Bunker lived - Astoria Queens. That character was supposed to poke fun at an archetype of uneducated bigot - Norman Lear just died a couple months ago - I would have loved to see what his answer would be - to the question - did you think it was possible that Archie Bunker would be elected president? That is how far we have fallen as a country
“If you can make the least successful white man believe that he’s better than a successful black man you can get him so worked up that he will let you pick his pocket” -LBJ (roughly)
There are four spaces, both physical and sociological. The first is the private sphere, your home, hanging with your buddies, internet chat groups. There your speech is uncensored, you can say whatever you want, racist and sexist it may be.
that was great
... There was no alternative to Donald Trump, because most of the Candidates - other than Chris Christie - were just Trump Lite ... If you WANT Toxic White Lightning bootleg hooch, a bottle of cheap beer ain't gonna cut it - nor is the dull Rosé on offer by Nikki Hally ...
They were too low energy and didn't know to put up a fight. They were weeded out quickly.
@@zuzanazuscinova5209 ... " Low Energy " ... from Trump's mouth to your tiny, biased ear ...
These two men and their knowledge of politics then and now is awesome & correct. I'm 82.
40:28 - “I wanna get at why this ripens ….” Well, how about the things that have already been written about ad nauseam? 1. anger over the 2008 financial meltdown and how the government bailed out Wall Street but not Main Street; 2. backlash to the election of an actual black person to the highest office in the land; 3. backlash to a female person (worse yet, a female person with impressive ties to the establishment, both personal and professional) being a major party’s candidate for the highest office in the land. I haven’t finished listening yet, so let’s see if you bring those things up …
Updates
49:28 - OK, good-there’s part of it …
53:57 - oh, yeah-marriage equality also provoked a backlash, 👍.
"black person to the highest office " lol
Another controlled puppet you mean.
"Change you can believe in " and his so-called Administration is stacked full of
Goldman Sachs cun*ts.
They are not about changing anything, they are
about maintaining the status quo.
Ain't his mother a Bush
♥️
Imagine paying the bank back on time with interest and being fined for it
While some of the author's views on the appeal of Trump are true, Trump would not have succceeded if we were not in The fourth turning. Read Neil Howe's book, "The Fourth Turning Is Here", and you will better understand the economic and other conditions that are the main reason that Trumpism works. I don't believe the time or the conditions were right for Trump to succeed during the time of Duke or Buchanan.
Trying to break history into predictable chunks or “turnings” is just an appeal to numerology or providence. There is a more precise analysis of the moment we are in: late-stage capitalism. The United States is too overstretched abroad, the gulf between the wealthiest classes and the rest of us is wider than ever, and the demands of corporations for profit are ravenous. And when the lowest tier of the ruling elite-whites- begin to see their wealth decline, they start looking for demagogues to rescue them.
The NY Times ain't what it used to be.
NY times is what its always been
What a depressing show. I get that you are talking about the electorate that supports Trump, which you both kind of charmingly seem to agree with it all, like, “no wonder Trump is so popular, he’s like a funny mob boss”. I guess you are calling out the believers in him, and what is so captivating for some, but it so depressing.
No he's not funny. But the rest is right
The second is the public sphere, the space of everyday life. You may object to Muslim women wearing the hijab but you are not going to tell the woman in your office that she is oppressed, you all have to get along and not make inflammatory comments
Love this guest! First time hearing John Ganz and believe his openness to Trump’s appeal helps. He seems spot on, approachable and not preachy.
Good Title by the way it has a Fascinating History.
The Middle Finger: A Fascinating History and Meaning
Are you curious about the origins and meaning of the middle finger gesture? This video takes you on a journey through history to explore the evolution of this controversial gesture. From ancient Greece to modern-day America, we learn about the various cultural interpretations and associations with the middle finger.
He is a Bush
Trump is Fun. Best one yet Ezra keep up the good work!!
"Trump is Fun" lol
Let's all hope and pray, that Trump (Freddy Krueger's son) doesn't have a judge who is impervious to evidence. lol
And EV's will leave skilled workers out even more. Think of the mechanics in every town that can tear apart a combustion engine put it back and tune it to perfection. Gone. Climate change BS putting a thumb on farmers (worldwide) , mechanics, people that work skilled crafts with their hands.
41:00 correct we love Trump!! (even if things don't work out) (we're not going away) we love that Smile!! that wacko but smooth dance to YMCA!! We laugh at msnbc/maddow/colbert/stewart/kimmel they are pure jokes to us!! SNL ended for us, 40 plus years ago when chevy chase dan aykroyd left!! lolol We know Trump as a businessman just like our fathers who started independent businesses after wW2 Never watched the Apprentice in my life!
You wallow in your own ignorance like a pig in shit.
Trump put many family business out of business by not paying them. Filed for business bankruptcy 6 times. Has his supporters paying hundreds of thousands for his legal fees. Not a salt of the earth businessman. He's lived in litigation and will die in litigation.
Is he going to accurately label what is happening in Gaza as a genocide? Has he done that yet?
Is it a Genocide??? If Israel intend to kill Palestinians why did it drop 3 million fliers or placed x10000 of direct phone calls to civilians asking them to evacuate. Did the US or UK did it in Iraq or Syria?
Why do all NY Times people soun NPR gay?
Why do people who feel the need to say something like this sound like OAN bigots?🤔
What does MAGA mean,Make America Gay Again?
Wow, your show typically doesn’t dive into ad-hominem attacks. Personally, I don’t like Trump, but as you guys were leveling non-stop attacks, I found myself rooting for him just so the arrogance of the “analysis “ would stop. You can (and usually do) do so much better than what you put out today.
Calling someone out (Trump) factually is not an attack, it's just a fact. Besides, don't you ever listen to how Trump speaks? I guess only those with ears to hear.
its hard to describe trump without describing him, he is an evil bigot, he is a modern day George Wallace, minus the pretend religious redemption later in life. you cannot really describe him as anything other than what he is.
We still love even tho he's a billionaire or more or less, he seems one of us. Biden is a politician and made his every dime in politics (ugh). Trump built/has things/ we can golf in /or stay a night at/ or have lunch in. Tangible things. Like our fathers after WW2. Small Business. Trump is big business but the vibe is same as my dad starting a car lot in 1948. Trump speaks our language. Biden does not
and... a businessman can fix and guide this country ...a politician cannot... because the World is Business. Business with China/India/ Russia/ North Korea/ any where PEACEFULLY. Politicians do not know or Do this.
We wanted Perot in 92 for the same reasons (as we liked and want/ wanted Trump) GHWBush scared/threatened Perot and he dropped out but until then was on his way to a victory in 92
Trump is Perot Revenge for us
Trump has ripped off so many "family businesses" and put them out of business. He has spent his entire life in litigation, and will die in litigation. Filed for business bankruptcy 6 times. Not the model " businessman,".
Trump killed a million Americans in his four years and he did not build his own business. It was handed to him by his father along with 400 million dollars cash. He was and is nothing like your dad but has lied through his capped teeth to make you believe it and you’re dumb enough to believe it all and ready to give him your last dollar. No wonder he’s a winner.
The great white hope
DEAL WITH IT.
"Fact-checking by Michelle Harris"
Fact-checked by our cherry picked ministry of truth experts. lol
Hope Trump doesn't have a judge who is impervious to evidence. lol
If you're not fact-checking the fact checkers....then you're doing it wrong. You have to show WHY it's wrong or correct. Not just deny it or confirm it with no explanation.
Excellent! I first unserstood the gangster appeal of Trump when I saw Greg Gutfield lay it out plain as day. He actually said we need a gangster to deal with foreign powers, the libs, and so forth.
Truth-tellers are silenced, while the liars have their voices amplified. A crime against humanity.
@perceivedreality7933
There is no Democrat or Republican, Left or Right, there is only insider and outsider. Until the outsiders come together like the insiders, nothing will change! @gearoidt6761
“The only real threats to national security in the world are the military and the intelligence agencies.”
- Dr. Katherine Horton
The patriots are not protecting the nation of a America,the patriots are protecting the nation of the masonic crime cartel -Dr Katherine Horton
They are all a gang of psychopaths.
politicians don't become criminals,criminals become politicians.
Dabrowski believed that the most important aspect of human development is the emotional one, since only in the area of emotional growth, transformation of behavior and character is possible.
The great majority of population lives on and rarely grows beyond the level of primary integration. The most primitively integrated character structures are observed in psychopaths and psychopath-like individuals, who suffer from “emotional retardation,” characterized by inability to experience empathy and guilt.
Let's all hope and pray, that Trump (Freddy Krueger's son) doesn't have a judge who is impervious to evidence. lol