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- Before music streaming… Before file sharing… We had the Columbia House Music Club. How did Columbia House make boatloads of money giving away stacks of free vinyl records, tapes and compact discs? I'll tell you in this video -- Part 2 of my look at the Columbia House Music Club.
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when i was a high school kid in the 80's i opened an account with Columbia House in my dogs name and got an extra 12 more cds after already getting my own 12 cds. My dad got really mad at me when he found out and told me not to be using the dogs name anymore. LOL
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HAHAHAHAHAHA.....Omg man that's the finniest shit Ive heard in a while. Literally made laugh out loud more than any YT comment Ive ever read. Kudos brother! I fucked em out of a few CDs myself LOL
I feel like this was a Simpsons episode hmmm he uses Santa's lil helper on credit card
@@jerknorris2483 I think that was "Married with Children" too. The dog got a credit card.
I opened it in 3 different names
I would get all my free CDs and immediately buy one at full price and quit. Then they would offer me 12 more free CDs if i came back. So I would do it, pay for my one CD immediately and quit again. This cycle repeated itself until there was nothing left in the catalog i wanted.
This is how I did it as well. Much cheaper doing it this way than visited your local music store.
I did the same and i loved it!. I had no problems at all!
I also did the same thing, couldn't beat that deal!
@@gimcrack555 yeah but if you were like me, an underground music fan into thrash and metal and pre-alternative stuff, the record store was the place, you were outta luck with that Columbia catalog if you wanted Black Flag or early Slayer and Metallica stuff.
I never quit I would just through their bills in the trash and let them assumed I had died or something. Now that I'm old I send bills from hospitals for the 20% my insurance didn't pay in the trash. Not dead yet.
Nothing was better than opening a box of LPs in the 80s and staring at the covers for hours.
Oh yes you are 100% correct I remember getting my first motley crue. Poison, ozzy, and judas priest records I thought I hit the freaking jackpot. My parents learned real fast who twisted sister was at the volume of 10.
Except doing itt in the 770s wwas even better. Lol ☮️💟🎹
Album art!
I had the best collection of music...better than ALL of my friends...because they didn’t know about Columbia House!
Iron Maiden had the best covers!!!!🤘🏼
If it wasn't for the Columbia House Record Club I wouldn't own half the music that I did as a teenager.
God bless this company, they supplied the entire nation with free music then went broke...... RIP you were heroes
and we the villains benefitted mwahahahahaaaa!!!!
@@darthXreven (Mr Burns) excellent.....
@@ianmeadows956 Dr. Evil: laugh with me...mwahahahahaah ,wahahahahahaaa!!
@@darthXreven mwahahahahahaha
That’s not really what happened.
I loved Columbia House. I started my CD collection with them and took advantage of any discount offers they had. Every delivery to my mailbox was like opening a Christmas present. It was kind of addictive.
You're right. I loved opening the mailbox and there was a cardboard box with Columbia House on it. YES!
Our mailman hated me, there were boxes on top of regular mail, on the ground under mailbox and sometimes he even knocked and hand delivered them
Right on. I do, however, get the feeling you actually were legit. That's a good thing, though.
Don't forget the book clubs too.
@@countfloydschillerhorrorth2090 Ah yeah. I joined a book club once and liked it. I got 4 free and bought 2, I think.
When they called my house my mom would just yell at them, "She's a CHILD! You can't make a child pay!"
She had a good point! Those were the days.
Frank
LOL, my grandmother use to do the same thing when my dad would get those 11 records for 1 cent, he said he and his cousin must have hit them 5 or 6 times each. He still has boxes of records I never even heard of in his closet.
Not my mom...when she got the call and found out about my eleven year old brother's secret stash of LPs she made him work off the rest of the contract of four more albums. AND - she picked them out :DD
@@67lilbear Go mom!
Yep that was me too - I was about 13 at the time.
I was a Columbia House member back in the 90s. I kept a running log of every CD I got from them and how much I paid for each one - including shipping on the "free" CDs. And the way it worked out, the longer I stayed a member and the more CDs I got, the lower my average payout got. By the time I shut it down I was to the point where I was averaging about one dollar per CD. If you stuck with them, it was actually a good deal. And a good way to build your collection.
I use to work at their call center and my mom worked at the factory. It is now Sony. When it was Columbia House it employed most of the town. They would bring in carts of cds and let us take what we wanted. It was a fun place to work.
An elderly, disabled woman I used to take care of. . some how SIGNED up for that Record Club. (1980's) I'd get her mail at the Post Office and carry them back to her apartment, open the package! She didn't like most of them, one record I had to put on her record player. With in a day or two I resealed the box and I HAD TO USE MY INCOME TO SEND THEM BACK! ! More records kept coming. . .she didn't like them either? I asked her WHY join that Record Club if you aren't buying any records? She said it was something to do. SHE REFUSED TO GIVE ME MONEY TO MAIL THEM BACK! ! I had to use my meager income to mail them back! I WAS GOING BROKE, so I quit taking care of her ! ! ! !
I don't care what anybody says, Columbia House was the best deal going. I signed up, fulfilled my obligation, and got a lot of good music at a reasonable price. The internet destroyed the music business.
Me too. I miss the club. If not for that club I would have never been able to swap all my tapes for CD's. I got about 95% of them swapped out using it.
Me, too. It was a good deal. I recall with Columbia HOuse you got 12 tapes then you had to buy 3 or 4 at retail price in a year. That averaged out to about $3.50-$4.00 per tape. Much cheaper than the record store. That was a good deal. CDs were a little more but tapes and records were my preferences. Tape players were common in cars at that time and CD players were not. YOu could record your records onto tape and carry it with you.
It destroyed the business? I pay 10 bucks a month and have instant access to 99% of any music I could ever think to listen to. From a consumers perspective this is an absolutely incredible time. Back in the day, if I didn’t own the album I couldn’t listen to the music unless it came on the radio.
And on the other end of things, it’s easier than ever to get your music out there as a recording artist. Sure not every artist is going to rake in wads of cash for their music, but they’re also not beholden to getting a label to sign them and distribute their music anymore either.
The age of labels and radio stations dictating music and profiting off of massive album sales was basically an anomaly in the history of music brought on by the advent of new technology (for the time) when audio recordings were made possible. Everything we associate with this era of artists becoming massively famous and wealthy off of their music was purely just a product of that relatively short and unique era.
And fittingly that age is coming to an end as new modern technology changes the landscape. And really the way things are going now is probably more similar to how the music industry worked for centuries before: with artists making money off of patronage from people that enjoy their music rather than via IP laws granting monopolies to distributors.
I'm pretty sure record execs destroyed the music business (for everyone who's not a teenage girl)
@@moonlitegram A hard copy of a CD or I don't own the music. The internet and downloading just sucks.
I was a member of both BMG and Columbia House as a teenager. I've used a nickname my entire life, so somehow I would get flyers under both my real name and my nickname (probably because I also subscribed to a TON of magazines). My real name can also be spelled several different ways, so I would get more flyers under my real name, but with a slightly different spelling. I used this to my advantage, and had probably a dozen different accounts going at once between the two companies. I kept a notebook with album titles I wanted and their corresponding order numbers, so no matter what catalog I recieved I could order what I wanted. I always paid my Bill's, and was VERY careful to always decline the selections-of-the-month that I didn't want. I used countless books of stamps sending those cards back in the mail. I ended up with hundreds of CDs, boxsets, and VHS tapes. It was almost addictive. Damn, I miss those companies.
There's actually an episode of Leave it to Beaver where the Beaver gets in over his head with a record club. Season 6 Ep. 9 😉
Too funny. I will have to look that up.
Thanks for that. I will look for it.
Ward was a little tough on the Beaver, last night.
@@billygunn7180 *hard
Huh. That actually sounds like one of the ultimate anomalies: An actual cool "Leave It To Beaver" episode!! 😂
I was an avid Columbia House member from 1974 until they shut down. My god I bought a ton from them. I use to get some much stuff shipped in because I never sent back in my cards. I never did any of the deceptive stuff lol. They use to have a once a year half off box sets that I saved up for every year lol. My collection was built on Columbia House and BMG as I had no record stores by me. Fun video. Steve
I joined in early Seventies also....after buying enough lps to cancel...they would send out lists of cool records for 79 cents...bought Jerry Garcia, Weather Report, Trapeze and tons of great lps on the cheap.
So you're the guy who kept them in business.
I think I was 13 when I sent in one of those ads for free stuff. Not only did I get EIGHT cool albums they sent me TWELVE more over the next several months before they realized I was just a kid who was not able to enter into a legally binding contract, haha. I still have those albums. Some of the crap they sent me later turned out to be classics. The Police: Ghost in the Machine turned out to be amazing.
I was a Columbia House member for years -- always in good standing -- and still got amazing deals without cheating the system.
For me, it started when I was a little kid of about 12 years old. I perused the Columbia House catalogs that my brothers had. I saved my money and one day, I wrote them a letter telling them that I was just a kid, but I wanted to purchase two cassettes -- The Eagles Greatest Hits volume 1 and volume 2. I sent them cash with the letter. Not long after that, I received the tapes I ordered. I was not pressured to become a member or anything like that. Some kid sent them cash and they sent the albums. It was probably pure profit for them to do that.
When I got older, I became a full member and bought hundreds of cassettes and then, later, CD's.
Well damn
Congrats, all you did was help make greedy scumbag marketers rich while ripping off the artists you loved. The "big secret" about CH simply not paying the musicians is the whole point of the video.
@@dogslobbergardens6606
How could any of us have known that back then?
Furthermore, as teenagers we all assumed the well known artists were multi-millionaires anyway, and we were just kids with part-time minimum wages jobs if we even had that.
The thought of well known artists not getting paid handsomely never even crossed my mind until Metallica’s fight against Napster started. At that point, I was completely on Metallica’s side.
However, in retrospect, I don’t really see how Napster was any different than what everybody with a tape recorder did before the Internet existed both by taping songs off the radio and by making copies of cassette/8-track tapes, CDs, or albums/45s and trading them with friends and relatives in order to expand each other’s music collections. The only thing the Internet did differently was facilitate it to being done on a larger scale.
On a side note, does this also mean that Book of the Month Club doesn’t pay the authors for their work either?
@@charlesbolton8471 I guess I just assumed that other teens understood there's really no such thing as "free" and that big companies routinely rip off the people who actually do the work.
I agree about the Napster thing, the first thing I thought was "hell I'd never have heard of Metallica in '85 if not for tape-trading, what the hell?"
@@charlesbolton8471 I don't actually know about Book of the Month club's operations, but if I had to guess, I suspect it's pretty similar.
I lived in an animal house during the '80's. An old farm house 1 mile from U. of Maryland campus. 3 students and 3 construction workers. Turnover was so big that we had the electric bill in the name of Robert Zimmerman. And then Robert Zimmerman joined Columbia House. They spent 3 years trying to track "Robert" down. We always had good tunes and they never figured out that Bob Dylan didn't live with us.
They probably figured if Bob was there that was punishment enough. Been back to Maryland lately? A lot has changed since the 1980s.
@@robertthomas5906Born in D.C. and never left the area. Oh yes, the State and the University have changed. Anyone who hasn't been back in a while wouldn't recognize the U.S. Rte. 1 strip. New arena, new Arts building, heck, new everything. I grew up with neighborhood covenants, forced busing, and the "white flight" to the outer suburbs. Don't miss those days at all. I'm in Laurel. 20 minutes will put me in D.C. or Baltimore. I love everything about Maryland except the high cost of living. But with my proximity to two large cities, there is tremendous potential to earn money.
@@calliecooke1817 Ever fly into College Park airport? OMG. Last time we flew right over the M. Used to be before 911 you could fly over Washington DC. Now you have to have a special decoder ring as we put it to go in and out of the Washington-3, College Park CGE is one of them. Still the oldest continuously working airport in the world.
@@robertthomas5906Nope, always Free State. But that house was right next door to the old MVA. The airport was about a mile down the tracks. No Metro to College Park yet, so one could walk the tracks. We'd walk down to the airport and wait for a plane to come in. The lights would come on real sudden and the plane would come in over our head. Cheap tricks. Had a girlfriend who waited tables at the Aero Squadron. Neat little wax museum. Oldest operating airfield in the U.S.
Now I know why the commercials would say "NO P.O. Boxes" lol
I got mine at a P.O. box for years
Still have tapes, cds and vinyl from them. Shit forgot about movies till you mentioned it. Never screwed them seems they did enough of that for both of us. Man I miss the good old days.
I have cassettes dating back to 1978,i switched over to CDs in the mid 90s and I still have a lot of cds also, i haven't bought any new music since about 2010
I never ripped them off either. I bought what needed to fulfill the deal and quit. Then I would sign up again. It was a cheap way to get a lot of albums.
yesssss, i was in the vhs club too, haha
I'd wait until they had a "Buy 1 Cassette, Get 2 Free!" sale and would go crazy. I still have hundreds of cassettes, though I no longer have a cassette player.
@@HarryBuddhaPalm Cassettes ere good in your vehicle. Better than 8 track.
I do miss this. I haven't purchased a cd in forever, but if these existed still, I'd probably keep buying them.
I remember buying albums from the metal section without ever hearing of the band. Since I owned the album, I would really focus on listening and truly hearing the music. Now that it's all so readily available, I believe there is a reduction in true appreciation for full albums.
My family moved when I was a teenager in the 80s, and when I went back to visit my best friend about a year later (we were both 17), he showed me his hidden stash of letters from Columbia's collection agency. He also showed me the leather jacket and Polo Cologne he had shoplifted. I was shocked, but also a bit jealous of his ill-gotten success.
I almost forgot about this. My dad loved it. He got a ton of albums. He signed us up at one point, and I think he signed the cats up too
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People used to give their "dire warning" that it's a ripoff and "whatever you do, don't sign up!" But, I crunched the numbers and it made total sense. As long as you bought ONLY the minimum number of units to fulfill your agreement, it was a big win. Don't even buy a single (overpriced) extra unit or you stop saving. This was CDs for me. You just had to be vigilant about declining the selection of the month-even if it was something you wanted. To my utter amazement, every time I closedy membership, they'd offer me another one??? Awesome.
Yep. Me and my best friend did the exact same thing. I ended up re-joining every time they asked me to, and I kept getting those 11 for 1 deals, then canceling immediately again. I figured they made their cash on the shipping costs I paid, and I saved a ton of cash versus buying those CDs in the store (after paying for the 1 CD, and the shipping for the other 10, the costs worked out to between $5-7 for each CD, versus the $12-15 each, plus tax, that they would have cost in the stores).
I never cancelled but when I ordered my first 12, there was an offer to buy something like 2 more but then get 6 more free (I don't remember the exact numbers, I just remember it being a great deal compared to what it would have cost me at Turtles)
My then teenaged brother did this as well. He would also order during "sales" and pretty much everyone in the house would order via his accounts. We didn't get stuff day one but he had a great CD collection as did I.
During the 70's in college we had back door access to the PO boxes for the students. We would fill out the CH cards with random names and valid PO Box numbers and since the albums did not fit into the PO boxes, they would gather for us to manually retrieve. Engineering students can get very creative.
I was a BMG guy. I would sign up and take the tons of mailers I received to school and sell my classmates into signing up. I'd have my selections already written on the form. I felt like they character in Fast Times who sold concert tix. I would also cancel my membership after months of refusing the cd of the month only to signup again. Kept my same name and address though. Figured if they mailed me another, they wouldn't care...and they didn't. I miss those days. Also, just subscribed! Great video!
Actually my experience with Columbia house was a good one. Overall I was able to get music a lot cheaper thru them than locally. Of course I was very diligent at sending the No cards back.
I did the same with a couple of book clubs too.
I figured out that if you only bought their albums at regular prices, then yes you were paying more, especially with shipping. But they usually had some special going on, i.e. buy one get the second at half price, and if you took advantage of that, then it actually wasn't a bad deal. Of course, the discounted items didn't count towards fulfilling your obligation -- just the ones you paid full price for, but it wasn't a big deal since I was buying a lot of music even before I joined their club. So it took some time, but I was able to abide by the contract and also manage not to get ripped off.
In the subdivision I lived in, we used to gather friends together, fill out a Columbia House order. Six friends paid $5 each, and got two albums. The money somewhat covered the costs of the overpriced albums a person had to buy. Once all obligations were fulfilled, someone else did the same thing. We did this for years, and got a lot of great music for cheap.
What an idiot I am!!! I always paid them. Must have been my upbringing.
I always fulfilled the contract and paid them too. I had numerous accounts... but all were paid. I loved it 😎
Ha ha ha!!! You were raised by Conservatives
@@toosweet6046 Yup. And proud of it.
I do miss getting a package of tapes or cassettes in the mail.
I don’t feel bad for then, they were relentless at getting people to sign up. They wouldn’t leave me alone. Sure I’m 12, I’ll join.
I have NEVER laughed so hard in my life watching this...comedy video of the year.
I've only discovered this channel recently. Frank, Thank you. Your hard work has not gone unnoticed. Love it!
Actually Columbia House was quite ethical at the time for a company in the record business. The record labels' lack of ethics at the time would make C.H. look like saints.
Man, I used BMG and Columbia House multiple times each to my same home address. It's almost like they didn't want to learn a lesson, and they wanted to give a teenager a bunch of CDs for free. A good 50-60 CDs in my collection where from those services when I was a teenager.
I never paid for any of the probably 100 albums I got
I think I did this twice. Never bought one. That was a good deal.
Another issue seldom talked about: When manufacturing vinyl or tapes, Columbia House used substandard (cheap) reproduction technologies, and their recorded media was barely mediocre compared to those of record labels, resulting in poorer-quality sound with lower volume and limited frequencies. Many wouldn't notice, but it was obvious to those that could appreciate quality recordings.
THAT! Was the first thing I noticed too. I had no idea about different pressings, all I knew is that the vinyl ALL sounded like crap. Great point Broe.
I "joined" when CDs were first introduced and cost between 15 and $20. .... So I got 3 - $400 worth of CDs for $1, never ordered or received any more and they never contacted me. ... as HARD AS I TRY now, 25 years later, I am incapable of feeling guilty about it.
I loved Columbia House. I got tons of free albums and paid for very few. I'd cancel and rejoin a few months later to do it again. There was a book club that did the same thing. It was great.
Thank you for reporting on this. I was a member.
Most antagonistic win-win-win ever. Thanks for the videos!!! 🎤🎤🎤
I use to have 10 names i used lol and my house turned in a 6 unit apartment building 😆
This is one of your best videos ever
Thanks!
Absolutely
LOVE this one. Really cool follow up to the original Columbia House video. I've always heard bits and pieces about how they actually made money, but is was sweet to have all the info in one spot!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Interesting. Thanks for taking the time to make this.
Did this so many times never paid a dime.
Did anyone ever pay them anything? Seems impossible that they ever made any money at all.
My dad paid and the movie's also. I just did it when I was younger for CDs then eventually movies but mostly CDs.
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HAHAHA me either. Fuck those guys
Breakin the Law!! Breakin the Law!!
I remember ordering so many free cd's when i was 16.... good times
Hi Frank,
Very interesting. A part of me missing this incredible feeling of choosing 12 titles and then waiting to get that box of goodies in the mail.
Ah.... the good old days. Almost as great as shopping in a record store.
Thanks for the lesson,
Tino
Former subscriber...loved getting multiple CDs in the mail!
In the 70's that's how I started my album collection, and than in the late 80's that how I started my cd collection. Not to mention all the cassette tapes I gotten from them also. Wish they were still around.
Hi Kerry. This is how I started my CD collection as well. In fact, I ordered the CDs even before I got a player. This would have been around 1989. Those were the days!
Frank
The thing about this is that everyone knew the score with Columbia House. You just had to read the fine print and send everything back that you didn't want. It formed the original basis of my CD collection when I transitioned from tape.
I joined, bought the amount I needed to fulfill my agreement canceled my membership then rejoined. I did this numerous times. I never ripped them off. I still have most of the cassettes and records I got from them. I loved Columbia House and really miss them. Cool shirt by the way.
Eye opening Frank. I remember when my parents were a part of this record club.
As bad as this set up seemed for the business and artists, it was still eons above what the music industry has become now. I grew up in a small town with few music stores so I was a member on and off all through my teens and 20's. I discovered a lot of great bands because there was little financial risk for me and later on would see many of them live and buy their merch. Honestly if they still existed, I would still be a member.
This made me think of that episode of The Goldbergs where Adam made up a bunch of fake names to get tapes from Columbia House.
RIP George Segal (aka Jack Gallo of Blush Magazine...)!
Or Newsradio where the secretary is caught by Columbia House for doing that with CDs. Except she’s done it for so long that she’s hoarded CDs and turned them into household decor like coasters and shiny beaded curtains.
There was an episode of Leave it to Beaver about it
@@l.salisbury1253 Just Shoot Me was a great sitcom. Sad to hear that George Segal died. Rest in Peace.🕊
Really like the in depth historical recap. Love your videos!
Much appreciated!
it was always nice coming home and finding that Columbia House box filled with the audio goodies !!! alas the times we live in now not so great with streaming but oh well maybe a Columbia House substitute will eventually come along again Frank !!! LOL !!!!!! keep on spinning!!!!
Getting a box of music -- especially as a teen -- was great. Thanks for the comment Ritchie.
Frank
I wish they were around today, I’d sign up and pay !
Me too.
Ditto that!
I don't lol
If you want Disney and now Fox Blu-rays and 4k Blu-ray's, there is a Disney Movie Club similar to C.H., though not quite as ethically challenged. If you like their DMC exclusive classic titles, they're the only way to get them to own on Blu-ray.
I must be the only honest person commenting here. I always bought my other records or CDs in full after my freebees. I know, I call it honest, others call it stupid. lol
You're not the only one. I was a legit customer as well.
I was honest and purchased the albums at their prices afterwards as well. Not all of us are thieves!
Same here! I joined Columbia Record Club in 1966-got 6 free LPs, and bought 1 a month for the next 12 months. Then I quit.
In 1976, I joined RCA Record Club, got some free LPs,made cassette copies, and sent the LPs back. Still honest!
I was a legit customer too... my cat, however, was not so honest.
Another Great video Frank. Had a similar thing in the UK called Britannia music club. you bought 4 x CD for £1 each and then you had to commit to buying 6 CD's in the first year and 3 in the second year at full price. Never joined it at the time. Love the T-shirt by the way. I was an Atari kid in the 80's with Space invaders, Pac man and Missile Command. Keep on spinning !!
In the early 1990s, I would sometimes bring in a stack of BMG compact discs to "CD Warehouse" to trade in for some new titles, and the clerk was frustrated by the lack of UPC codes. He couldn't "scan" them in to the system and had to look up each one by artist and title.
Omg me too!!!
Ttt
Some places wouldn’t and still won’t take them
What is the statute of limitations on this?
I'm asking for a friend.
:)
Depends on your state. Anywhere from six to ten years.
I'm safe! I mean, my friend is safe!
I got so many cd's and cassettes from them. Loved poring through their catalogs of music.
When I was a kid in the 1970's what some people did with these clubs was sign up, get the free music and then send the club a letter stating you were a minor and therefore voiding the contract. At the time at least in our state, contracts with minors were not legally enforceable unless they were for goods or services that were necessary. Once you voided the contract, you were under no legal obligation to do anything else. You didn't even have to return the free music. There was nothing the club could legally do. They couldn't even send a collection agency after you. We learned this from a friend's father who was an attorney and it worked like a charm.
Interesting loophole... it makes sense.
Frank
Yeesh. I didn't realize that it was at the point where the artists didn't even receive anything from it. Man .. that is worse than streaming platforms. Crazy stuff. Great show as always Frank.
Thanks Gil.
Every Teenager of the 80s and 90s were all getting music
And 70’s😎
Love it! Haven't thought about this in ages. My mom and both joined and split the free albums. I think we even continued on after we fulfilled the contract. Never had any issues..got lots of free music and great deals too
Beautifully explained 👍
Thanks for the memories man!
Flea market gig was brilliant 😂
...Well for a little while
I am guilty as hell of buying their albums under different names back in the '80s and in the 90s I did it with CDs..lol
I signed up for this one time and got my shipment within a few days. They sent all the selections I wanted and then a week later they sent a letter indicating they had made an error in my approval and demanded I send back all the CDs unopened. Yeah, right. Like I got a box of CDs in the mail and just let the box sit around the house unopened for a week. I played most of those babies the day they arrived. 😄
I think I said this before but I loved Columbia house because they sold albums on reel to reel tapes, which I could never find in the store.
I still have my Akai reel to reel player along with many pre recorded reels from Columbia House.
hey frank...nice in-depth reporting there...i do remember belonging to both columbia house and rca record clubs back in the 60's...my favorite part was the catalog you got in the mail every month...i would salivate over those pages and pages of different albums to choose from...and i would read them over and over and over again....it sucks to hear that it screwed the artists, but like you said, it certainly did give them exposure, especially artists you may not have tried otherwise....excellent video my friend...stay well...rocky
Hey Rocky-o! Like you , I remember pouring over the ads and catalogs. A much simpler time, for sure.
Stay well,
Frank
I kept a few of those catalogs from back in the 80s and they even sent a deluxe catalog that I still have. The 80s catalogs CDs were new and the price they charged were extremely high.
I joined Columbia House when I was 13 or 14. I got my 11 records or whatever, then my mother found out when the next couple albums arrived (which of course I didn't call to opt out of) and the phone calls for non-payment started. She called them herself and told them the contract was unenforceable because I was a minor. She had worked at Consumer Affairs for years (prior to that) and so knew the laws pretty well. I got to keep my dozen-plus records, never had to pay for anything, and got out of my contract. They just wiped out my membership while she was on the phone with them, and we never heard from them again.
I played by the rules with them. On the first group of 12 they sent me a wrong album. I returned it quickly and they never could get me the right one. When they called about more payments I would just say contract void until you get me my original order.
I remember a guy in Canada wrote a letter to CH telling them to stop sending their junk mail or he would charge them for each one he got. They ignored him, so he sent invoices.. They ignored them too and he took them to Small Claims Court where he WON..
As a former employee who worked at their Canadian operations in Scarborough, Ontario from September 1998 to October 1999, I recall the messages people would write on them when they returned them (more along the lines of “go stick in a place where the sun don’t shine”).
Good to see you Frank! Have a great week!
Thanks, you too!
They made their money back by charging outrageous shipping fees, especially on their laserdisc club.
I fulfilled my agreement. I can't be the only one
Me, too.
I did too.
Another honest person here- I never swindled them.
You had me at Columbia house, awesome two vids and keep up the great content please
Thank you!
I'm digging the channel. Great stuff! I subbed!
I love this video! I don’t know if you watch the Goldbergs or not but there like a sitcom and they have an episode about this
I have not seen the Goldbergs, but I will check it out.
Cheers,
Frank
THIS explains why Napster WAS NOT BAD for the industry. It was played by the industry to get the upper hand on streaming
I think it was Lars and James from Metallica that really hammered Napster, wasn't it? I think they had massive lawsuits filed against them, and were a big hand in shutting it down. I loved using Napster when it was available. It got wiped out and simply opened up the gates for others doing the exact same thing - file sharing.
Great story, Frank. Still workin those journalism chops.
I’m still grateful to Columbia House, as it started my music collection off with a stack of vinyl. I still remember so many of the albums I got with that first shipment.
Columbia House: What is your musical preference?
Me: HARD ROCK
Selection of the month: Mariah Carey....
Ohh ha ha ha ha so rel
They would make harassing phone calls even after you completed your obligation.
Never give your real phone number to anybody but family members or friends, especially when applying for credit cards.
That's why you use fake numbers
@@bleeding4721 I'm generally an honest person., Thusly: commiting fraud is not in my nature.
My mother signed up with Columbia House in 1968 for me when I was 10 years old, she knew I loved music. Even after we subscribed and started receiving records they kept sending us invitations to join or sign up - they were such greedy assholes they couldn't even keep up with their own shady business practices...
@Free Trump Wow, that made no sense whatsoever.
I was a customer for a long time and amassed a good size collection. when I listened to ALOT of music. They always offered a buy 1 get 3 free type deal. It did not take long before I exhausted the viable options. I was left with Meatloaf, Air Su;pply, and Earth, Wind, and Fire. The story is the same with BMG, which had more desirable artists in my opinion.
This was an interesting video, thank you for putting it together!
I did this so many times thru the 80's and early 90's. I still have them all.
Damn do you remember that "New Tape Smell"? Loved it
Yes!!!
I can close my eyes and still smell it from memory
I just opened a 40 year old reel-to-reel tape... It smells soo good..
In the late seventies my brother joined Columbia House. He received his 10 albums for a penny...then never ordered another album.
He joined the Navy and told my sister to write them and tell them that he died. Ha!
I remember the excitement of opning up the mail box and seeing that my Cds were there. 😊😊😊
Top quality reporting. Thank you.
Much appreciated!
Was it just a coincidence both biggest clubs (BMG & Columbia House) were both located in Indiana? (My home state)
Kinda don’t even feel bad for ordering those CDs under Wilma Flintstone. 😆
Fond memories of Columbia house. Didn’t have much money so getting 12 cds for next to nothing was fantastic!
I sent in the card you taped a penny to. Selecting 10 albums and then looking around for tape and a penny was fun. My mom called and canceled once the bills started showing up.
They never came after me. I was only 12 without credit to ruin. I have WAY more Kiss albums than I wanted lol
Now I don't feel so bad about not paying them for all the LPs they sent me. They still got a lot of my money.
Thank you Columbia House!
Maybe they had a Kinder and Gentler version of Columbia House up here in Canada. A bulk of my 90's CD purchases came from being a member of it. I also bought out and completed my obligation eventually when CD's finally started coming down to a "reasonable" price. Hey, that's how the old cats did it before MP3's came along.
They took advantage of people's laziness to not cancel the membership when it started costing them and it racked up huge payments. A milder version of what drug dealers do with the first hit free then people get addicted to it and keep coming back
That "first free hit" is a meme. I have never been offered free drugs nor do I know anyone that's been offered free drugs, and I've known a lot of drug users.
@@phubans obviously not as many as you think you know since it happens in schools all the time