DON’T Say You’re an NBA Fan Until You Know These Players (C-E)
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- A new series, where I give a short summary of many different under-appreciated players in NBA History.
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Have you seen your choice in the series yet?? Who are you waiting on?
Stevey franchise
Amare Stoudemire
Caron butler
saw quite a few players in here that i wanted to see, props to you
Yes I've seen a few! Thank you!
Seeing Mark Eaton in the thumbnail earns my respect 🫡
Celtics fan 🤫
@@BallStar4D2He appreciates old and new basketball why does it matter what team he likes. Plus your favorite team just had the worst 1st round upset ever.
One of if not the most underrated centers of all time. Arguably the best shot blocker in history
RIP
Bro averaged like 7 and 9 for his career… I’d rather have Time lord !
I think Nate Thurmond and Sidney Moncrief both deserve a mention in this series. Both were so incredible on defense and were key contributors on very underrated teams. Awesome series, I loved both videos
I think Nate Thurmond doesn't belong in this list. He is a hall of famer and in the NBA Top 75 (even if I don't think he belongs in this list).
Sidney Moncrief always comes to my mind when I think of the NBA's most underrated players. People don't realize how good Bucks teams of the early '80s were because they didn't get to the finals, but that's only because of how great the Celtics and 76ers were in that era. Besides Moncrief, the Bucks also featured Bob Lanier (another of the most underrated players ever) and Marques Johnson.
Thank you for including Eaton! Despite not being the best offensively, he was a machine on defense and is probably one of the most consistent players that are at least 7'3"
-- i've always seen Eaton's stats. He's a solid big b/c AVAILABILITY is the best ability. His blocking game is monstrous.
Offense? 45FG and his eFG? Also 45%. That's pretty rough. Regardless, shout out to Eaton, RIP 2021.
I sat next to Mark in an econ class at UCLA... A great honor.
Between Eaton's blocks & DPOY awards, Malone's scoring & rebounding, and Stockton's passing & steals; the late 80s Jazz would've probably been seen as a superteam nowadays. But the top teams were just more stacked & deep back then.
Louie dampier is a name I’ve never heard of. And he was shooting 7 threes a game in the 60s!? That’s crazy! I wish I knew how many of those he was making per game or what his efficiency was. Definitely a pioneer in long distance shooting that I never heard of. Thanks Johnny
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@@TheIcemanthomas dumb comment. Threes weren’t tracked back then so checking that website would be useless. Common sense is definitely not your friend
Baron Davis was one of my favorite PG's growing up! His dunk on Ak-47 was NASTY!
B.D. ayyeee 💯
The 2007 NBA Playoffs game between the Golden State Warriors and the Dallas Mavericks was absolutely incredible. That game was the biggest upset in NBA history.
I met Darryl Dawkins in the early 2000s when he was the coach of a minor league team. I am 6'5" and generally regarded as a big person by most people in normal life. Darryl's hand completely swallowed mine when I got to shake his and in general, I looked like a little kid next to him. You wanna talk about a BIG dude that went toe to toe with the legends. Great gregarious demeanor, as well. RIP, Chocolate Thunder.
A 6'5" Mr Bean is a terrifying prospect
Great concept! My player suggestions...
Terry Cummings, Buck Williams, Sydney Moncrief, Kevin Willis, Michael Adams, Tom Chambers, Mark Price, Bernard King, Larry Nance, Ron Harper, Cliff Robinson, Terry Porter, Mitch Richmond, Wayman Tisdale, Cedric Ceballos, Nick Van Exel, Steve Smith, Rod Strickland, Mark Jackson, Kendall Gill, Tim Hardaway, Sam Cassell, Vin Baker, Chris Mullin, Sarunas Marciulionis, Drazen Petrovic, Kenny Anderson, Otis Thorpe, Detlef Schrempf, Brad Daugherty, Reggie Lewis (just don't those last two to be forgotten)
He already did sam cassel
Great list of players. He did a couple of those guys in the first video. It was great to hear their names again. 👍🏻
Fat Lever, Bobby Jones, Ricky Pierce, Marcus Johnson, Terry Cummings, Jeff Ruland ( before all the injuries) Gus Johnson…….this is such a great topic. Love your content but this one will give a history lesson to the young and old. I have more but I’ll wait for the next video
You know who just dawned on me? A.C. Green
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Adrian Datley, what a player. For some reason I remember his low post play and the step back, but my memory can play tricks on me.By the way, most of the players you are showing I thought they were well known, at least for people of my age (50). Love these series. Well done.
I’ve met Dantley while working at the Basketball Hall of Fame. Very humble guy and very respectful of the era in which he played even though he essentially gets forgotten hence his inclusion in this video. Dangerous scorer and one of the better players to have played
I'm 34 and know all of them even without watching them. I'm a student of the game but I have to say I learned of them from the NBA 2K series.
I hope Alvin Robertson gets in this series. God he was a nasty defender and a pretty good scorer, and has one of four quadruple doubles ever recorded. As much as I love Terry Cummings, who the Spurs traded Alvin for, I'm still sad we never got to see Alvin with David Robinson together. Us Spurs fans were so excited to see it when David was doing his Naval commitment. The Spurs defense would have been so nasty having a guy like Alvin who was a great pickpocket of the ball handler, outstanding in the passing lanes, and strong as an ox to throw on guys like Clyde Drexler, Terry Porter, Kevin Johnson, John Stockton, etc who were enormous thorns in the Spurs' side in David Robinson's prime.
This is a good series; I doubt you'll name anyone whose career idk about, but there's a serious lack of knowledge and/or respect for players from previous basketball eras, and this'll help to educate some.
This channel is underrated af, I'm a relatively new nba fan and this channel is like the bible
His videos are more entertaining than today's NBA games.
Love the spirit behind this series. Giving some shine to some forgotten greats. Love it! I'm sure it means a lot to them and their families. Learning about the past is important!
Yoo!! You nailed it! As a Spurs fan, that shot by Elliot does feel like the beginning of the dynasty.
You had to have been here in SA. You could feel it in the air that something special was happening.
I have never heard a stadium as loud as the Dome that day. When Stoudamire was shooting free throws right before that shot people started paddling on the seats in front of them, and since they were hollow plastic they made a thundering echo when you'd hear hundreds of people in the area hitting them. It sounded like a train coming by and got Stoudamire to miss one of the free throws. Everyone was jumping up and hugging strangers when Sean hit that shot and then when Dave got the rebound and dribbled out the clock at halfcourt off Jim Jackson's miss. Everyone in my section was high fiving every other person they passed by as we left that game. God the Blazers came out so demoralized in Game 3 after Sean stole that Game 2 from them. RIP to my boy Ram who I went to that incredible game with.
When I was a kid, Dale Ellis was the first player I ever saw that I wanted to pattern my jumpshot after. It was one of the prettiest shots I've ever seen. He had a perfect form with a quick release. If I'm not mistaken, he is also the first player in NBA history to hit 1000 3-pointers. Much respect to Dale Ellis. It also makes me wonder how great the Mavericks could have been in the 80s with Ellis, Schrempf, Perkins, Donaldson, Davis, Blackmon, and Harper. That 80s Mavericks team was loaded.
I commented on the last video that the entire Dallas Mavericks of the 80s should be a subject of their own video. Definitely a team that could have done more but we're unable to get past the juggernaut Lakers
@@NaptownsClassic wow, never knew that as a youngin. Knew about Harper, but didn't know they had the rest of them.
I once bought a pack of NBA Hoops and all that was in it were 13 of the same Dale Ellis card. You would've loved it. :p
Even though Dale Ellis never won a championship he was still solid in a lot of payoff series and clutch in key playoff games. Also, Dallas could have drafted Barkley
Imagine Barkley on that squad.
Rick Mahorn would be a great guy to talk about. Just perfectly encapsulated his team and era
T.R. Dunn is easily one of the most forgotten about defenders of the 80s, I've always been a fan of defensive players so seeing players like Joe Dumars, Mo Cheeks, and Mark Eaton made me happy.
"T.R. Dunn" sounds like a the name of a megachurch pastor 😂
I didn't remember the name, to be honest, so I'm really glad he was included. Nice to know that the offensive juggernaut also had an elite defender. ;)
@@MPHswayze ong 💀
Such a shame Cheeks was overlooked because Dr J and Moses Malone were the frontrunners of the '83 squad. MARK MY WORDS: The Sixers don't win the title if either he or the "secretary of defense" don't suit up that year
Btw please mention Bobby Jones in this series
Andrew Toney too. God I wish he could stayed healthy.
Man, he's even more underrated! Everyone, including me before I did research thanks to your comment, neglects how effective he was as a 20ppg 3rd option shooting 50/100 as a perimeter player. He could have carried many franchises as their superstar, maybe even the Sixers alongside Chuck. I can't believe we never got the chance to witness a prime Andrew Toney. The man was out of the league by 30 and never found his former self after 27, the age most players take off! Damn injuries. Maybe he, young Chuck, aging Dr J, Mo Cheeks and still elite Moses could emerge as the mid 80s conquerors of the loaded east! If he were healthy, maybe Moses would never leave! Imagine what justice it would be for Dr J, Moses and Chuck to have at least one ring more. Cheeks and Toney would also be remembered and honoured more as key contributors to a 76ers DYNASTY! Bobby Jones would also be remembered as a Pippen/ Rodman status defender now, because he was.
@@marykalyva225 Believe me, as a Celtics fan who was in his 20s in the '80s, I know how great Toney was. He's the main reason we traded for Dennis Johnson. Those Philly teams were fantastic, even before they acquired Moses Malone.
@@kevinhouse4376, You are one of the few pleasant exceptions. Not many pay attention to those details unfortunately. Most of us fans don't acknowledge players like Toney who were very good but not superstars, especially because many weren't born when Toney played
The most underrated player on those squad was Bobby jones
Wildest thing about Sean Elliott was his kidney function was so low that he needed dialysis in the 1999 playoffs, but he put off treating it until the end because he wasn't going to lose what looked to be his final shot at a title. And no one knew about it until a week or so after the Spurs won the title when he finally announced it and then announced his only real option was a transplant. Luckily his brother was a match to donate one and he got the transplant not too long after. I was at the Memorial Day Miracle and to this day it's the greatest game I have ever gone to, but I can't imagine how insane the crowd would have been at that game had we known the sacrifice Sean was making to get that title.
Honestly Antoine walker would be a pretty good choice he had an underrated prime in boston
ADRIAN DANTLEY 4 YEAR PEAK(31 PTS/6 REBS/4 ASSTS ON 56% FROM THE FIELD .. 2 SCORING TITLES) IS 1 OF THE GREAT OFFENSIVE STRETCHES IN NBA 🏀 HISTORY ..
Superb video, Jonny! I hadn't heard of Louie Dampier, but it was awesome getting to learn about him and I want to read up more about him now thanks to your video :). I know I listed some players earlier when I commented earlier but thought of another one - Scott Pollard. I think he was a good role player for the Kings and a solid backup for Divac.
Awesome video again, Jonny! Have a nice day.
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I too love the inclusion of Dampier. A lot of people who visit the Basketball Hall of Fame don’t understand why he is inducted and it is simply because people don’t respect the ABA. He as explained is a pioneer of the game as we see it today and without him and other key ABA players such as Artis Gilmore, Mack Calvin, and Dan Issel don’t get mentioned so thank you for this comment!
Glad to see someone highlighting Elliott and dale ellis. Both couple of my favs growing up. Hope i see guys like Eddie jones, glen rice, tim hardaway, mark price on here Jonny. People didn't like Tim for his off court comments but he and price are 2 very underrated pg's.
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I know he's a hall of famer, but as a Knicks fan, would love to see you talk about Dave DeBusschere if you go for a round 2. Walt Frazier and Willis Reed get lots of credit for those two championship teams (rightfully so) but Dave's defence and long range shooting seems to be somewhat forgotten in comparison. Would also love to see you talk about Bernard King, people still forget how great he was even after he was traded to Baltimore with multiple 50pt games after his knee injuries.
You are so good at this Johnny. Every video is the perfect mix of quality, entertainment, and learning something new
I watch all your videos bro. Love your takes. Finally nice to see someone who is an experienced basketball wizard like me 💪🏾
I really love this series. Thanks for creating so great content.
Great video. It's nice to see some of these lesser known legends get some praise for what they did so well.
Glad you are continuing with this series. Dunn is the first one I am unfamiliar with. Good work. Nice shoutouts to Cowens and Dumars.
I didn't know of Darryl Dawkins, Sean Elliot, Dale Ellis or Laphonso Ellis. Thank you for the video and I look forward to the rest of the series!
While I don't always agree with your vids, I always make sure to watch and enjoy them. This list/series though is very good and keeps on surprising me. The likes of Eaton, the Ellises. Thanks and keep up the good work.
Great list and great video as always
great series... loved learning about Louie
Really like those videos. You are a great basketball historian my man.
Thank you again Jonny!
Great vid again jonny
Congrats for the criativity to came up with not only new but dope topics! Shoutout from brazil!
This series is great and so educational please keep it up I must become a hoopgrids god
Great vid💯🏀
Baron Davis was a good player. The style that combines power and speed was quite exciting. Also good at passing. You had the ability to be selected as an All-Star about five times.
Davis tends to focus on scoring and dunking, but he was also very good as a point guard.
Davis is an underrated NBA player.
Kobe and Baron were my favorite player growing up.
Jason Richardson perfect guy to pair with Baron
Love these videos
Nice vid Jonny
I love this series! Stellar work. How about 5'8 Slam Dunk champ Spud Webb for later?
Not enough people know about Micheal Jordan, an unknown/unappreciated shooting guard from the University of North Carolina. He played with the Bulls, alongside the also criminally underrated Scottie Pippen, in the 90’s, you should do a video about him. Please!
It won’t be done. The media hates him. I can’t find any footage of him. They are clearly bias for Bias
LETS GO I LOVE THIS SERIES
I grew up watching all these guys. They were great players. Sad thing is that most of the basketball world and media almost forgot them. Thanks for giving them their long due recognition.
I'm so glad you mentioned Sean Elliot. I had a comment ready to say you needed to mention him 😄
Love this series
Hey, really love your work. Have you ever thought about a series talking about the unknown mvp's in league's history? that would be aesome, i believe. Greetings from Mexico.
Love your channel!!!! Keep up the good work! What about Dell Curry?
Love the videos Johnny keep doing what your doing and filling us up with more basketball knowledge! I don’t like making suggestions because I know you are very capable of deciding who to feature but if I could just shout out one name for next video which would be Horace Grant, one of the most underrated players of the 90s who impacted every team he was on, never missed the playoffs in any season, and is a borderline hall of famer. You don’t have to take this suggestion if you don’t want to but keep doing what you do and thank you for all that you’ve done for the basketball community
Great video! I would love to hear about Campy Russell, Cleveland Cavaliers small forward.
Loving this player. I know most of these 9layers and happy you are giving them some shine.
Micheal Cooper won DPOY while coming off the bench 🤯. How have I never heard of this man?!?
Great content and idea for a series!!!
Great series. Have a bunch of players:
Rolando Blackmon
Brad Daugherty
Alex English
Sleepy Floyd
World B. Free
George Gervin
Darrell Griffith*
Elvin Hayes
Connie Hawkins*
Spencer Haywood
Gus Johnson
Kevin Johnson
Bernard King*
Bill Laimbeer
Fat Lever*
Reggie Lewis
Jeff Malone
Moses Malone
Johnny Moore*
Alonzo Mourning
Chris Mullin
Ricky Pierce
Chuck Person*
Drazen Petrovic*
Kevin Porter
Terry Porter
Paul Pressey
Mark Price
Michael Ray Richardson*
Alvin Robertson*
Jeff Ruland*
Detlef Schrempf*
Pervis Short
Jack Sikma*
Peja Stojackovic
Roy Tarpley*
David Thompson
Otis Thorpe
Andrew Toney
Kelly Tripucka
Buck Williams
Kevin Willis
I put an “*” by some of my favorite overlooked players. Also added English, Gervin, Hayes and Moses because I feel like people forget just how great they were! Keep up the great work Jonny!
My family’s from Philly and my pops has this legendary story of himself at just 15 yrs old meeting Darryl Dawkins at a movie theater back in those 70s. They were just casually standing in line right next to each other to get tickets. Darryl said what’s up to him and it practically left my pops speechless from what I was told, haha. All this to say, I just peeped both videos you have for this series, and you’ve got a good thing going with this. I can always appreciate those that respect the history of this game. Looking forward to the next
I’m hoping to see ilgauskas and mehmet okur in future videos. Great series, keep it up!
So what’s it mean if you knew the name of all 4 from the thumbnail before watching 😂. As a fellow fan and longtime student of the game I’m really glad that I found your channel. Great series as well.
Did not know about Dampier, loving this series so far. Although you didn't mention Eaton's nickname, "the Human Detour."
I hope to see a full series
god this is going to be a good series
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 I didn't know about Louie Dampier, a lil homework to do.
Ive never heard of tr dunn, thank u jonny!
i think ben wallace belongs on this list as well. despite being fairly well known even by the majority of people, i still think people forget how good he was
Louie Dampier's name should be immortalized in the discussions of pro-basketball lore.
Love this! Dantley was absolutely a problem in the locker room, complete Prima Donna. But, his stat-line meant that he consistently yielded considerable trade value. That fact combined with the shift in inter-personal chemistry is why teams uniformly improved after moving him on.
As soon as you started talking about Cooper, I immediately thought of the Rock the Baby dunk. There are others in this video that I knew about beforehand due to specific moments in their careers. For example, Dale Ellis played the most minutes in a single game in league history with a very nice 69.
Cooper is one of the most criminally underrated defenders in the history of the game. Eight all defensive selections is nothing to bypass. The fact he is on the same level and, slightly above, another Laker great defender in Kobe just shows the impact of his game for those iconic teams. Great comment!
my mom has met Mo Cheeks numerous times (through a former football player). and i have a signed basketball from him. and he also left us post game tickets when we were in Boston one time. Mo Cheeks is a great man.
As many times as I've looked at the all time steals list, I never noticed Mo Cheeks was that high. Also, love this series. I've learned quite a bit about a handful of players I knew next to nothing about.
4:01 I was looking away and I actually thought you said Erick Dampier and I almost spat my drink out.
Baron Davis mentioned!
This was a great idea for a series. So many guys get forgotten you could do this forever
Never have I ever heard of TR Dunn, well Dunn Jonny😂. Learned something new
This series is going to be great.
I think one player that could've been brought up is Brad Daugherty. He was one of the great centers that played during the 80s and 90s who played with the contending Cavs teams during that era. If his back injuries didn't shorten his career, he could've been a hall of famer.
I also think that a lot more ABA players should be mentioned in this series as well. The likes of Mel Daniels, Marvin Barnes and other ABA greats that are forgotten to time van the recognition that they deserve.Definitely am enjoying the series. I can't for the next one.
Love it! Eaton was a great add, he was a monster in his time.
Just a few players I would like to see get more recognition are Detlef Schrempf, Terrell Brandon, Kevin Duckworth, Mitch Richmond, Steve Francis, Eddie Jones, Glen Rice, Fat Lever, Dan Majerle, Nick van Exel, Mike Bibby, Arvydas Sabonis (is my Blazers bias showing yet?), and Mookie Blaylock.
i havent heard of Louie Dampier & T.R. Dunn, this series is rlly cool
Dell Curry, Nick Van Exel, Andre Kiralinko, Derek Harper, Ron Harper, Horace Grant, Dennis Scott, Kenny Smith, Mitch Richmond, Chris Muillen, Tayshaun Prince, Jermaine Oneal, & Shawn Kemp
Good content. The next E maybe Van Exel
Mark Eaton’s story is crazy. Let’s put it this way, we bash older generation players saying they were going against plumbers and such. Mark was a professional mechanic before becoming an NBA player.
This guy was a back up on his high school team. Worked as a mechanic, and then he was discovered and did the whole college theme. He was a 26 year old rookie when he made the NBA.
He then played his career against Magic, Bird, MJ, Olajuwon and many others.
If his life hadn’t of happen I wouldn’t of believed a story like that.
Please more!!
Thank you for putting me onto TR Dunn 👌🏿👍🏿
Dantley was my fav player after West... Loved his inside game too. Tried to play like him vs bigs too, didn't quite work as well for me.
Really hope you cover Calvin Murphy, before Hakeem he was absolutely the greatest Houston Rocket of all time and at 5'9" is one of the original "Short Kings" of the NBA and to this day is the shortest player in the Hall of Fame. Even after all the great players to come to and be drafted by the Rockets he's still a Top 5 all time Rocket.
Calvin Murphy is a great suggestion. You could add Rudy Tomjanovich as well.
Ben Gordon is a name that should be talked about more. Bulls fans know how fun Big Ben was in his prime
Byron Scott!! Definitely underated!!!
Dennis Johnson has to be one of the most underrated players. People only know him for his work on the Celtics when he played a defensive/playmaking role and have no idea about his amazing 1983 season with the Suns or his finals MVP on the only championship winning Super Sonic’s team. In his prime Dennis was an incredible slasher and sacrificed his numbers to win and help a system
Second time saying Nate Thurmond so he doesn’t get forgotten🤞🤞
I totally forgot about TR Dunn. Good job J.A.
Love to see Randy Smith included in this series.
Vlade Divac (Formerly of your beloved Lakers; Evented the flop)
Tim Hardaway (First NBA player to be recognized for a 'killa' crossover)
Andrei "AK47" Kirilenko (Great nickname)
Chris Mullen (Arguably the 2nd greatest bball player from NYC)
Glenn Rice (Efficient scorer who would who played in an era that didn't suit his game)
Bryant "Big Country" Reeves (Great nickname)
Detlef Shrimp (Spelled his last name incorrectly on purpose)
Deron WIlliams (Battled CP3 for best PG in the late 2000s)
Hopefully going forward, we'll see Sam Jones, John Starks, Anthony Mason, Byron Scott, Mike Riordan, Kevin Johnson, Dan Majerle, Terry Porter, Glen Rice, Mark Price, Brad Daugherty, Ron Harper, Allan Houston, Latrell Sprewell, Eddie Jones, and Marcus Camby.
A lot of people are talking about how you including Eaton which don’t get me wrong I love the inclusion but the inclusions I like the most are Maurice cheeks and Michael cooper since they are VERY underrated defenders that a lot of people don’t talk about because they aren’t high volume scorers and their stats don’t pop out like other players who get recognition often.
Love the given recognition to the forgotten names ❤
great series idea!
a few i'd like to see: bernard king, michael ray richardson, gus johnson, dick barnett, bobby jones, terry porter, buck williams, jerry lucas, lou hudson, lenny wilkens, terry cummings, bob dandridge, bob love, ... i guess i could go on for a while.
Great suggestions! I especially love that you included Gus Johnson, Lou Hudson, Bob Dandridge and Bob Love.
You are doing some serious needed education to our young folks and those that love basketball should know about these guys to be some educated fans and why eras matter.
Nick Anderson also; underrated role player, one of the best imo.
Love it
Wow Sean Elliot, Joe Dumars brought back memories ! I would like to see Isaiah "JR" Rider and Abdul Rauf in future series!
I've got a poor memory but as a kid watching Cheeks, the dude never missed an open jumper when the defense sagged towards Moses and Julius. He was automatic from 15 feet.