Iconography | Iconoclasm
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- čas přidán 19. 09. 2016
- ICONOGRAPHY | ICONOCLASM
Hieromonk Patrick (Doolan) of St. Gregory of Sinai Monastery in Kelseyville, CA discusses the heresy of iconoclasm. This is the 3rd video and the final installment of Hieromonk Patrick's interview regarding Orthodox Christian iconography.
HIEROMONK PATRICK'S BOOK:
www.amazon.com/Recovering-Ico...
CHURCH OF THE GENUINE ORTHODOX CHRISTIANS OF AMERICA (GOC) WEBSITE:
www.hotca.org
SAINT GREGORY OF SINAI MONASTERY WEBSITE:
www.gsinai.com
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Seems like a really nice guy.
Honest straight talking, seems very genuine imo :)
"The martyrs died for not practicing idolatry."
Thank you. Only now saw this. Excellent explanation. St. Stephen was martyrd for disregarding the image of the emperor, even though he was not despising the emperor himself, only making a point. That being so, it would seem to me that great woe may come to those who despise and destroy holy images.
I do believe that this issue, although a stumbling block, reveals deeper issues that those who reject icons don't want to acknowledge, such as the authority and holiness of the Church. (Even with the faults of those in it, we earthen vessels.)
Thank you..
Thank you for these videos. I’ll be sending them to my “non-denominational” mother who is worried about my inquiry into Orthodoxy.
If Icons are idol worship then photographs of family members is also idol worship.
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True
Yep that’s right..🤷♂️
I guess someone's about to destroy photos lol
I found the description of the iconoclasm issue very enlightening....
Excellent talk. Thank You.
Wonderful video ❤
beautiful
Thank you for this explanation of icons and images, and for being so clear and thoughtful.
This is interesting and helpful,
i thought it was St. John Crisostom who was put before the emperor and disrespect the emperor's coin.
BTW, very Good Argument.
Thank you for your complete explanation. I was baptized Orthodox as a baby, but I spent most of my upbringing in between various protestant churches, most being fairly iconoclaustic. I'm considering reconnecting to the old faith. I have a question though. Is it worth trying to get into religious iconography/artwork so late in life (23) or should I honor God in other works that I have already cultivated? Thanks again, and God bless.
One can always become an Iconographer if one does it Canonically, of course. If you have the drive to become an Iconographer (or even just to practice Iconography) then may God bless you in your journey, my friend. If not, then do what it is you feel more connects you to the Faith. God bless, my friend
Follow where your heart leads you, for the heart is close to God. May the Theotokos pray for you, and may you be guided aright. God bless!!
@Etaipo 23 is still very young, you follow your heart , you can practice religious iconography/artwork , anytime you want, an hour before lunch or hour before bedtime, etc make time a fes hours here & there soon adds up .
I was a biker , involved in all kinds of things that weren't good,.
At 29 yrs old I enrolled at night classes with UCL (L= London ) studied field archaeology and 3 years later graduated with a degree.
That was almost 30 years ago I'm also specialising in small finds - artifacts, coins brooches etc .
I love my job I'd probably be dead or in jail had I carried on as I was,
Its never too late to change direction..
Good luck follow your heart , life goes too fast especially when you get to 30 , time just flys . I can't believe I'm 58 this August
Do something that you love and have passion for.
I love archaeology , I love going to work.
Its more than a job it's a passion,,,
Holy orthodoxy!!!
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God bless you and your beautiful work
Can you imagine all of the art we would have from the middle ages had so much of it been destroyed by zealots
If Christ is the image of the Father, what is the Orthodox position on icons of the Father and the Spirit? I have read that the Moscow Council in 1666 forbade such icons, but it doesn't seem to deter their use.
I never saw an icon about the holy spirit and the father, its forbidden. Only the son can be on icons because he was 100% human as 100% god.
@@Sendo664 These icons seem to be more common than expected. The most famous one that I know of is on the ceiling of the central dome of the Cathedral of Christ the Saviour in Moscow. There's lots of other examples depicting each person of the Holy Trinity.
Strictly speaking, the iconography of the Trinity in its full form is impossible, because even if God the Holy Spirit was visibly manifested in the form of a dove during the Baptism of Jesus, God the Father was never revealed, and we do not know what exactly Moses saw on Mount Sinai! We also do not know what exactly the forefather Jacob, who received the name Israel, saw when he fought all night with God. One thing we know - Abraham met three holy travelers going to Sodom. And this event gave rise to the painting of the icon of the Trinity...
As one Jewish Rabbi told me, "we only bow down to Invisible statues" LOL
Lol
You throw perls to pigs. And I m a Serbian orthodox in 10 knee.
Emperor Leo III was a hero banishing idol worship!
why is he in hell then?
Yeah yeah it's all idolatry. This is why Orthodox always give long answers. They can't speak with the plain truth.
He provided an answer, you on the other hand provided nothing, idolatry is just a buzz word for you
Take it easy, pal
It takes a long explanation to get through to the protestant iconoclasts. Still you reject the truth. All those beautiful pieces of scared art which you find so offensive will not disappear on your say so.
Icon bad!
(furrows brow)