Can We Get Over America’s Labor Crisis | Best of 2023
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- Can We Get Over America’s Labor Crisis | Best of 2023
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As someone who has been welding for 20 years I am tired of being offered 23hr to weld. Switched careers to otr trucking now bring home 700 900 a week net which is terrible considering I work 60+ hours a week.
The non college degree jobs pay terrible. It’s not an opinion it’s a fact. But Mike and Dave have not taken the time to go online and just look at the what jobs are actually paying.
That’s something these guy’s won’t admit.
I went to school for welding and worked as a mig and robot welder. Alot of these jobs are starting even at $16 and $18, it’s insane.
i am also retired navy person- 24 yrs both active and reserve , but also worked as mfg/ weld engineer in automotive. spent lot of long days trying to get robots to run , but it seems companies does not understand value of my experiences and talents, from being older - i am open to a good paying engineer or robot tech but it seems we are not valued - so i am just not actively looking - we have a small property that grow our garden and cut some wood - i am totally done of going back into bad companies and management
There is no labor shortage. Biggest shortage is full time jobs.
huh? no. there are millions of open full time jobs. there is definitely a labor shortage in most industries. im in construction. we are always looking for more people, just like every other construction company. in construction, the pay generally makes minimum wage irrelevent because the pay is good. im so tired of hearing people say there are no jobs, because in reality those people are saying there are no jobs that pay well and dont require them to actually work
As a small business owner, I can assure you there is a significant labor shortage. Fortunately we have had very little staff turnover over the past 23 years, and typically are able to fill those positions quickly and select the best person for the job. In the past two years we have been trying to fill a position. We get incredibly fewer people to even interview. We have now hired three people over the past 2 years for that position, spending a lot of resources training them etc. The first person after being there for a few months, texted my office manger Sunday night saying they went out of town that weekend and weren’t able to come to work on Monday as they decided to extend their trip, so she decided she really didn’t want to keep working and quit. The second did the same thing after a few months, so we fired her. Just this week while on Christmas break, the third person for that position told us she decided to book a last minute trip over new years and a few days, and we don’t even work until the second so everyone can do whatever they want New Year’s Eve. She will be replaced. The truth is that with so few people wanting to work, it’s incredibly hard to find people that are dependable. Low pay isn’t the issue either as we made a huge pay increase to all employees a year ago, in addition to the typical 4% yearly raise, as I recognized inflation far outpaced wage increases. These newer employees in the last 2 years started at higher salaries in an easy position than some of my 15 year employees were making in more thought provoking and demanding positions (until I recognized this an really rewarded all of my employees generously), and they still just can’t be bothered to come to work. I’m very suspicious it has to do with unemployment benefits that were beefed during the pandemic which sort of created a welfare live for free without contributing to society mentality, but I could be wrong. For sure though, with unemployment being as low as I’ve seen as a business owner, it seems like only low functioning people are willing to even consider $25 and hour for easy work and are very undependable. I suspect there is no insight into the future, because I believe that once they get out of immediate financial danger, they seem to decide they’ll just take a long vacation and then get another job when the creditors start threatening again. Low unemployment is great for society as a whole because it’s terrible if productive people can’t find employment to better their futures, but it’s terrible for small business owners and very hard on my support staff who has to pick up the pieces when these people just decide staying at home is more desirable than working for their future. It’s not sustainable and it will certainly correct itself in the future, but it’s a strange time for sure.
@@randal3122nobody wants to work construction.
It’s very hard to find a good crew to work with. Most of the time you’re dealing with alcoholic with bad attitudes.
@@rileydavidjesus yup. meanwhile there are tons of people fighting for minimum wage laws and complaining that they dont make more working at mcdonalds. that is why i have run out of empathy for them. there are tons of good paying professions, but it requires hard work. people just dont want to do them
It’s wage stagnation
I think I've heard this conversations like 3 times on different Ramsey channels
Currently, most college graduates cannot find jobs, and I'm not referring solely to liberal arts degrees; this situation applies to virtually every degree except for teaching and nursing. Obviously with the exception of a few more. What shortage... the crap jobs?
We don’t have a labor crisis.
We have a wage stagnation crisis!
Welding jobs are starting from $18 & up while cooks at Panda Express start at $19 an hr.
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Not all of us out there hold to the new ideals. When we go to hire, we can still find honorable hard working people between the cracks.
yes but it is getting more and more difficult to find those people. when i started my business, there were always young people wanting to get into the trades. they are still out there, but very few and far between. i have seen a huge change
Am I the only one who doesn't think there's a labor shortage??
These young people aren't lazy they just don't want to work for you. And a lot of them don't want to do the stupid jobs their parents did. Most of them try to start their own business. If you need entry level workers, try to let some of the thousands of people at the border in. If you need skilled workers and you provide a good working environment you will not struggle to find employees
Yes you’re the only one. These younger kids are delusional, entitled, lazy, and have been pampered all their lives with participation trophies and safe spaces.
Correct! You are the only one with a brain here. These two guys want people working for a company for 30 years, underappreciated and "suck it up." Today's generation don't believe in that America dream BS with is another way of saying "work for 100 hours a week. You owe your life to a company." Young people are working and building their own businesses
not true. skilled trades are the hardest to find people. there is a shortage of labor in skilled trades that pay well. a lot of people just dont seem to want to put in the time and effort to develop a skill. i am a business owner in a skilled trade in construction. the problem i see is that young people dont seem to want to get their hands dirty. this is why there are constsntly people arguing for a higher minimum wage, while there are shortages of people in the type of labor that pays well. for example, its not very hard at all to learn how to weld and get certified. and minimum wage is absolutely irrelevant to certified welders. but people dont want to put in tbe time to learn. the same can be said for any other skilled trade
Single men don't need money.
@@randal3122can confirm, 14 years in trades, 10 as electrician... After my divorce, I immediately went to a job that paid less than half as much with under a third of the hours. It's not the money. We've created men who don't need money, have no reason to care about money.
Yes, it's a culture battle. Everything these days is a cultural battle. It's honestly exhausting. These cultural issues will bleed into the workforce, which deters people who do a good job to look elsewhere, so it's a rotating door for people coming to work at a company. I have the privilege (not really but I sometimes lie to myself) of seeing this so close up being in IT. I have to term and add users constantly to the company because people from higher up don't care enough about their employees and employees' motivation for doing a good job is at a low. However, if you do work on a skill job then there is big money in a lot of places right now. Also, a huge part of the workforce is retiring within 5 years and it doesn't seem like they care enough to properly train the next generation on the job.
How can u train someone who cares not to be. Also why would a person want to be a robot ??
you cant train someone that doesnt want to be trained
A TV host and a radio host complaining there's not enough people working in the Trades 😂
So are they not allowed to make a statement of fact? Smooth brain
@fkillah It's called hypocrisy. Dave's kids don't work in the Trades either
@@daveassanowicz186 uhm, no. He's not saying that all kids should work in the trade industry but that it's a labor market in high demand that's understaffed. Seems like your just making up reasons to not like Dave.
@@fkillahstop trying to defend multiple millionaires that have never worked a labor job a day in their life!
@@ericnewman6523 I'm defending common sense and the truth. What did I say that was false? Name it, you can't so you resort to a baseless, emotional argument. Dave just became a millionaire by doing nothing huh? Sounds like your just a jealous grunt. If you want to be a millionaire, you can. Do something about it and stop whining about it.
When a job cannot provide a home or place to live, a job isn't worth doing. Having the borders open has screwed everyone over. Dave and Mike point of view massively misses the point. We should be doing backflips and celebrating these people. You know who wasn't counted as the workforce forever, the small farmer, the Sheperd, the chicken farmer, the housewife. A whole generation needs to opt out of the system and grow food, raise livestock and move to cheap area of the country. What typically happens is young people and immigrants are moving to the big cities for the jobs located there. The home prices go crazy, billionaires love it, big government loves it, the IRS loves it. As much as Dave and Mike talk about the trades what about the small solo entrepreneur who is a plumber but just in a really small town. They aren't counted, it doesn't mean they are lazy, it means they are done making the 1% richer and done paying crazy taxes.
there is nothing wrong with someone being a small solo entrapaneur, but i dont think that makes a huge portion of that statistic. just read the comment sections of any video on this topic. We have a huge problem in this country with work ethic
@@randal3122 i don't think so even in the slightest. Almost every single person I know has a full time job and a side job. A few even have two full time jobs. A great example was 2008 and 2009 NOT one media outlet was saying how lazy workers were and quiet quitting. There were millions unemployed and millions more out of the workforce. No one can say in 15 years a whole demographic shift happened to now workers are lazy all the sudden. Before covid you didn't hear all this workers are lazy crap.
@@jamisonmunn9215 in 2008 and 2009, they werent working purely because there were no jobs. there actually was high unemployment then, and millions of people lost their jobs or businesses. today, there is a labor shortage in good paying jobs. not all workers are lazy. in fact, probably most arent. but the fact is, we have a larger sect of the population now that is lazy and straight up doesnt want to work. it has been a major cultural shift that has exactly coincided with the radical shift towards communist-like authoritarianism we have seen in the past few years. its a cultural issue, and i dont think people realize how much worse off we will all be if it keeps going in that direction
@@randal3122 not really, how come pre covid only 3 years ago no one was talking about this? Shifts don't happen that quickly. What is happening is people are waking up and realizing, paying tons for college to work at Starbucks isn't going to cut it anymore. Young people all move to the same 12 cities after colleges and compete for the same jobs all while making the rents and home prices skyrocket. It doesn't make sense anymore. If you can't afford a house why have the job?
@@jamisonmunn9215 well i actually agree with you that it doesnt make sense to go to college to work a basic hourly job. and i dont think its a good idea to move to a big city in general, especially if its not because of a high paying job. but you dont have to live in a big city to make a good living. like i live in california. i would never move to san francisco regardless, but it would make even less sense if i was going there to make under 200k a year or something. what i have seen is that people in big cities dont make enough of a premium to make it worth it. you can never afford a house in an area like that unless you are making over 200k a year. even that would be pushing it. but there are plenty of areas where you can make a good living without being in a crazy expensive area
As one of the 7 million working age men not in the labor force, I had to make a very hard decision about my career when I left the labor force 4 years ago. I knew not having the extra income (I also get VA disability) would keep me from being independent but I needed to retrain to have a better career. I live with my siblings and their families so housing hasn't been a problem. I am feverishly working on finishing my degree so I can actually have a decent career and not just a halfway decent job as a CAD Technician making $16/hour.
is your schooling intensive?
@@randal3122 what do you mean by intensive?
@@KiLLED5639 like is it full time
@@randal3122 no I'm part-time. My mental health disability makes hard for me to be full-time.
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I don't see the ROI on 4 year degrees these days honestly. I stopped halfway and learned a trade and instantly started making enough money that I didn't feel the need to finish. 20 years down the road or so I am making more as most of my former college friends without the debt.
Bingo
I retired from the military in 2022. I was enlisted for 9 and an officer for 12. I had a job lined up before I was out. I had 4 days of "retirement" and I was working my civilian job. Humans are built to work. I can't even imagine sitting around day after day after day.
People think they don't want to work. Really they just hate their job. If they could find something that they derived some meaning from, that is what would actually be the best for them. I think part of the issue is the education system. Beyond reading comprehension and math, almost nothing else you are taught in public education as a kid is useful as an adult, and the schools are designed to push kids into college that don't belong there. The ones that don't go are then seen as losers or under achievers.
Some of the dumbest people I know are some of the most educated people I know, and I live among doctors, lawyers, engineers, and software developers in a neighborhood with the average house price around $1.7 million. I'm a jeweler, dropped out of college, learned a trade and started my own business.
@@Jackaroo. and some of the dumbest people I know work dead end jobs and live paycheck to paycheck. Meanwhile, some of the smartest people I know have professional degrees and live in million dollar homes. Aside from anecdotal evidence the stats back me up on this fact too. But go ahead and try to paint the false narrative doctors and lawyers are dumb people as they laugh to the bank.
Yes….yes it is.
According to the CPI inflation Index, Making $40k a year in 2000 (livable but tight) is over 70k this year. Since Many companies aren't even paying 70k to their employees with full degrees...yeah makes the younger generation discouraged to even enter the work force. If companies paid new employees 70k as a starting pay and actually gave them proper raises not only to combat the cost of living but also additional incentives on top of that...the younger generation would be more eager. Covid exacerbated this when inflation hit like 7% a year for a few years straight and wages didn't really increase at all in that time. 60k was a decent wage and obtainable wage in 2000. Today that would be around 110k a year. Only very strictly chosen vocations pay that much anymore.
I agree with your notes on inflation etc.. I will note that it's a lot easier to say " just raise wages" than to actually pay for the exponential increase that puts on a business..
I'm a small time contractor and just raising wages to get bodies leaves little room to pay the exceptional producers well...
@@dustinmarquand5301 For sure. It's definitely a slippery slope
honestly part of the problem is people like dave are just honestly kind of out of touch with people who just dont make more then 100,000$ a year and seem to think its a choice to make anything less. and the obvious soultion to them is start to make over 100,000$ a year if you dont and then go from there.
no hes right though. it is a choice. anyone can get paid 100k a year. you just have to be willing to work hard and stay in a trade long enough to actually develop a skill
@@randal3122 honestly I don't think it's like that at all. Like unless you grew up with tons of advantages in your life you would be lucky to make over 100,000$ a year no mater how hard you work and effort you put in.
@@thewewguy8t88 not true. you are flat out wrong. and there has been by far enough people that have done it to prove my point. do you have any idea how many people there are even in blue collar trades that make over 100k a year? do you think most of them started out with tons of advantages? absolutely not. hell, i know quite a few ironworkers that had rough pasts including jail time that now make 100k or more, not even including side work that many of them do. i know electricians that make 100k+. i know concrete guys that do too. same with hvac guys. same with heavy equipment operators. nurses make 120k easily in my area. real estate agents can make that easily as well. same with unskilled people that prove to be responsible and logical and can take enough responsibility to be a manager. those are just a few, and the only one that requires schooling out of those are nurses, but single mothers go through nursing school all the time. im sorry, but if a single mother or an ex convict can get to that, you have absolutely no excuse. most people start out making very little. the people that work hard and have ambition can easily get to 100k a year. yes, it is absolutely a choice
@@thewewguy8t88 stop the victim mentality approach. You control your destiny. Go to school, learn a trade, improve your skills, start a business, etc. Most importantly, stop your whining. More than 90% of wealthy people are self made and weren’t handed a golden ticket.
This fact is always missed: People are giving up on work because $30/hr cannot put you in middle class….so, why try? Jobs just don’t pay. Most skilled people make the same money as decades ago. Two income families are working themselves to death to “appear” to be middle class. Why work hard when living “poor” in America is about as good with all the welfare. Only the very rich and the poor can afford to have children. Sounds ridiculous, but it’s true.
There isn't a labor shortage. There's a salary shortage. Younger people becoming wiser and aren't chasing difficult jobs that don't pay.
the difficult jobs do pay well though. they just dont want to do the difficult jobs
Younger people are more entitled and lazy. You want to make money? Do a difficult job. Flipping a hamburger doesn’t count
@@fkillah agreed. they want pay like they are working a difficult job with a lot of responsibilities, but they dont want difficult or responsibilities
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No, there's a shortage of jobs that pay enough to live on. Why should anyone work a job that pays so little they still have to live out of their car? If I'm working 40 hours a week I better be paid enough to afford rent. If not, forget it, keep your joke of a job.
Bouillabaisse is right!
Labor is heavily taxed, investments are not. When you incentivize not working, less people will work. Dave wants to talk about the "Good book" rather than actually doing anything to oppose the system.
Quiet quitting? More like tired of being taken advantage of. If you want me to go above and beyond, my pay should as well.
You shouldn’t expect something for nothing right?
My generation had 1.3 children. I’m a gen x. My parents had 2.5 children they are boomers. My grandparents generation had 4 children. The problem is my generation that had 1.3 children also lost 1/10 to 1/5 of our people to the opioid epidemic.
You will NEVER get any honesty on CNN or MSNBC.
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You could uber or lyft so no job
There’s a lot to raising kids and apparently no one wants to be bothered with raising them. It must interfere with the parents Instagram watching😅
These are millionaires, sticking to their brands to keep making their millions. Nice gig if you can figure out how to get it. Good for them, but they are out of touch and this sheer entertainment, nothing more.
Are you kidding me? What crisis? There are jobs everywhere. People can go other places if they don't want their current employer, and unemployment is at all time low. These two guys are just mad they can exploit employees anymore. Many people are working from home and doing side hustles online. Too bad Dave can't make people work 80 hours at week every week. Deal with it.
America needed men like fish need a bycicle, so... This is just beginning.
There isn’t a labor shortage. People are finding other ways to make money. People are sick and tired of working for companies that aren’t paying. For example, a nurse can make more money creating content about life as a nurse than actually working in the field as a nurse. Dave, I love your mission but stop it with the labor shortage crap!
I like Mike Rowe and his message. BUT…he puts a lot of blame on young people, parents, teachers and government for young people not going into the trades. He should be looking into the camera when he goes on Fox News or Ramsey and telling the trades that they need to do better as well. The trades historically do not pay well or treat their employees well. I worked in the trades for a long time so I know. Mike holds everyone accountable except the trades themselves. Mike has a platform to tell the story but he’s only telling part of the message. Not sure why he’s not telling the whole story. Likely because he has not spent enough time in the trades to truly understand how the trades really work. I love the trades but they really need to do better.
Some points you have there.
Growing up in trades it always seems like you're training your future direct competition... Some guys really use that as an excuse to be terrible in many ways.
Dave and Mike row need to get their butts to work then!! Yall are mad because people are trying to make a living in the same fashion that they are… on CZcams or other none labor work!
Smooth brain you are
@@fkillah Thanks! Smooth name you have.
@@ericnewman6523 what a lame comeback 😂😂 is that the best you can do?
@@fkillah shut up and go play with your daddy Dave balls some more!
They want less competition on youtube lol
Bible does not equate consequences to cause and effect.
You guys are misreading the word.
Jesus says that “He is the ‘cause’ and the ‘effect’” and he came so that you would NOT face the consequences for your sins.
Thank God he was not as ignorant about Cosmic law as you guys are.
They all are sitting at home making youtube videos. All videos need to be demonitized.
You have the choice to not watch and help monetize if that’s your thing. But ask yourself how much quality content would be available if everything would be demonetized? But continue to sit at home, complain, and watch CZcams videos 😂 🤦🏻♂️
Thinning the herd since 2021 lockdowns 😂😂😂
I see many opportunities🫡
This is America and ONLY lazy people say you have to be sleeping to have the American Dream. Well that is TOTAL BS. I know young people who are making money and living the American Dream. I meet with two of them today. One owns a roofing company and he does all my rental property roofs. The other guy owns a used car lot, and I rent him some land for his owerflow of vehicles. Both guys are living the American Dream right now. So stop complaining because you are either lazy or too afraid to succeed. Which is it?
Preach. Nobody wants to hear the truth because it’s easier being the victim.
If the opportunity was really there for the majority of Americans this video wouldn’t exist. We have wage stagnation.
@@J19118 ONLY YOU CAN OVERCOME ANY obstacles. I did it without any education. It's how hard & smart you work. Opportunity is EVERWHERE.