What are Clean and Dirty Feeds on ATEM Video Switchers?

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  • čas přidán 1. 06. 2024
  • What is the difference between a Clean Feed and a Dirty Feed? Why would you use one vs. the other?
    00:00 Introduction
    02:18 Signal flow
    04:56 How is this useful?
    06:20 Isolated Feeds
    07:08 Wrap-up
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Komentáře • 33

  • @RealRickCox
    @RealRickCox Před rokem +1

    I love how simple you've made this for people. Since you get more unique clients that have diverse needs, I suspect you use the clean feeds more than me. But this is super helpful to show clients who want to understand the differences so they can at least communicate "I need a clean/dirty feed to X location".

  • @carlwingard8241
    @carlwingard8241 Před rokem

    Just stoped by to wish you Happy Hollidays from Sweden. And thank you for a year with so many good and informative videos.
    I really shouldn’t work now so I’ll check this video out next week. 🙂🎄

  • @LandonGingerich
    @LandonGingerich Před rokem +1

    Great video Doug!

  • @Iamdebug
    @Iamdebug Před 11 měsíci +1

    Thanks for the video! I was wondering what the difference was but have never been asked for clean feeds yet.

  • @H1111111111123
    @H1111111111123 Před rokem

    Doug, I love you I was about to buy a whole other switcher lol thank you for making this content i need this lol your the best honestly

  • @tvproducer0111
    @tvproducer0111 Před rokem +1

    Thank you for sharing we really appreciate you

  • @hotshoestudio
    @hotshoestudio Před rokem +1

    cheers thanks. great content

  • @105wielki
    @105wielki Před rokem +1

    Thanks mate 👍

  • @ifiokudoh4447
    @ifiokudoh4447 Před rokem

    Much thanks sir

  • @FallenStarFeatures
    @FallenStarFeatures Před rokem

    Thanks for the detailed explanation of clean feed video outputs. What I'm wondering is which stereo audio sources are embedded in each of the PGM, AUX, and channel SDI outputs on ATEM switchers. I know the PGM output contains the built-in audio mixer output, but what about AUX output switching? Does it contain audio from the AUX selected source, or is it the same mixed-down audio as the PGM output? Likewise with the individual channel SDI outputs, do they all have mixed-down output on audio channels 1+2, along with talk-back audio on channels 15-16?

    • @djp_video
      @djp_video  Před rokem +1

      All of the outputs contain program audio (Left and Right). The one exception to this is the new Television Studio HD8, which allows you to map other audio channels onto the various SDI output channels.

    • @FallenStarFeatures
      @FallenStarFeatures Před rokem

      @@djp_video - Great, thanks. So if you for example set AFV on video input 1, you'll get audio from input 1 on both PGM and AUX outputs whenever video input 1 is ON AIR on PGM?

    • @djp_video
      @djp_video  Před rokem

      Yes. All SDI outputs have the same program audio.

  • @kingsleyakiri3372
    @kingsleyakiri3372 Před rokem

    Thank you for the exposé on clean and dirty feed.
    Please I've had this concern on my M/E2 blackmagic switcher, My clean feed still carries a media graphics stamp on it after my video production recoding, please how do I get rid of this entirely from my clean feed recording to have no stamp in my clean mix. Thanks as I get your poss solution feedback on this issue

    • @djp_video
      @djp_video  Před rokem +1

      If you're using an Upstream key (USK) to create it, there's nothing you can do to prevent it from being included on a Clean Feed output. The Clean Feed functionality only omits elements added using the DSK.

  • @clintroberts6226
    @clintroberts6226 Před rokem +1

    Does the Clean feed only effect the down stream keyers ?? does it still pass the up stream keyers ?? if so ... can they be eliminated somewhere in the software ?? Thanks

    • @djp_video
      @djp_video  Před rokem +1

      Upstream keys are included in the Clean Feeds. There's no way around this, as they're already mixed into the video signal before the transition block of the switcher, before the clean feeds are tapped.

  • @marcobillardello1382
    @marcobillardello1382 Před rokem

    Very interesting video, but I have a question for you. If I make a multicam with three cameras, two entering the atem via hdmi, and one entering via a wireless transmitter like the mars400, how do I delay the two hdmi input cameras so that all three are in perfect sync?

    • @djp_video
      @djp_video  Před rokem

      There's no easy, practical, affordable way to do that. The better solution is to get a wireless system with no latency.

  • @lewishayden8908
    @lewishayden8908 Před 5 měsíci

    Hi Doug! Thanks so much for your videos. I have a quick question that may or may not have a simple answer. I think I know the answer, but I want to get a clear yes, no or...sort of. Are Upstream Keys considered part of the "clean feed"? Can you get a clean feed without Upstream keying? We have a BMD Constellation 8k for reference. Thanks so much again!!

    • @djp_video
      @djp_video  Před 5 měsíci

      Upstream keys are applied before the signal path reaches the Clean Feed stage. So there's no "clean feed" for Upstream Keys. That's by design -- otherwise the USK couldn't be mixed in before the transition.
      The simplified signal flow through ATEM switchers goes like this:
      Video source -> Upstream Key 4, 3, 2, then 1, Transition effect, (Clean feed 1 tap), Downstream Key 1, (Clean feed 2 tap), Downstream Key 2, Fade to Black

  • @ganerdali72pcr87
    @ganerdali72pcr87 Před rokem

    hello, sir we need to know how can we make a self-hosting server that others view any device anywhere. Not Rtmp, with SRT compatible.

  • @JCuervo330
    @JCuervo330 Před 7 měsíci

    😮 didn’t know this was even possible! If using upstream key, is this is simple swap to downstream?
    We use an ATEM 1 M/E and put lyrics on screen, BUT if edit in post these limit my options - I’m not sure if we use up or down stream to accomplish.

    • @djp_video
      @djp_video  Před 7 měsíci

      That depends on the type of key you're using. If you're doing a Luma key, it can just be moved straight across -- the DSKs have the same capabilities. But if you're doing Chroma key, that feature isn't supported in the ATEM switchers on the DSK.
      Generally speaking, overlays that are meant to stay on screen through transitions between shots are handled in a DSK, but that doesn't have to be the case.

    • @jakebennett8895
      @jakebennett8895 Před 7 měsíci

      if the lyrics are there in post there's a high chance they're being mixed on an upstream key, I have had to navigate this issue myself. We use DSK1 for lyrics and record a clean feed.

  • @JorgieMathew
    @JorgieMathew Před rokem

    Hi, can I use old atem mini as surface control if I have atem 2 m/e to control 2nd m/e?

    • @djp_video
      @djp_video  Před rokem +3

      There are ways of putting some pieces together to make this happen, like using triggers in Companion. But nothing supported natively by Blackmagic Design.

    • @JorgieMathew
      @JorgieMathew Před rokem +1

      @@djp_videothanks, yes that is the one option I was also looking at,
      this is a problem for people like me who have started on HDMI and have level up to all SDI environment. So always looking for a second opinion before getting another equipment.

  • @mindgaming_002
    @mindgaming_002 Před rokem

    my HyperDeckStudio HD Mini show video but not record and not connected with switcher i think ip is not match please help me

    • @djp_video
      @djp_video  Před rokem +1

      I'd need more details about your setup to help you figure out your recording issue.
      For the switcher to connect to the recorder they need to have unique IP addresses that are in the same network. So the first three numbers in the IP addresses have to match but the last number needs to be different... such as 192.168.10.10 for the switcher and 192.168.10.30 for the HyperDeck.

    • @mindgaming_002
      @mindgaming_002 Před rokem

      @@djp_video ok i will try sir

  • @mindgaming_002
    @mindgaming_002 Před rokem

    Video on transition visual effect in live

  • @marcesmack
    @marcesmack Před rokem

    Great stuff! I’m working on expanding SDI workflows. I think you’ll like what I’m making. Would love to get your feedback! Let me know if you like the idea of testing it :).