As a matter of fact, it did have a larger coal bunker. The Niagaras had a coal capacity of 46 tons, whereas the Big Boys had a coal capacity of 28 tons
I don’t know how the Niagara’s fuel consumption compares other than it had to be less than the big boys. But I can explain the increased capacity. The New York central used track pans to refill water on the fly. This allowed them to shrink the water tank and increase coal capacity. As a result on some routes only a single refueling stop was required.
I always thought those Niagaras looked weird and heavy and slow but I actually really appreciate them now just by seeing how fast they could go in this video. I'm not sure if this is very fast, but at 2:32, it looks like that Niagara was going *fast* I guess this is more sighns telling us to not judge a book by it's cover.
100+ mph was not unheard of if they were making up time. I think they were designed to handle the stresses of 125 mph. That's what my Dad said and he was qualified and ran steam on the NYC. He ran mostly Mohawks though.
Yes. When built, they had steam whistles only, installed next to the stack. But many engineers complained that they could not hear the whistles when the train was going at high speed.
Not in this one but Volume 1 has footage around Indianapolis and the IN locations. Also, Steam & Diesel on the NYC Volume 1 has great footage out of Lafayette to Kankakee, IL and from Cincinnati to Greensburg, IN.
I keep hoping you will come out w/a Don Krofta Toledo Div West DVD (which is my area) like you did for the East end of the Toledo Div. But I bet Don didn't film much, or any, that far west.
The Southern had some magnificent steam locomotives, but it did not have any Hudsons. In fact, it did not have any locomotives wth a 4-wheel trailing truck.
If you are referring to the smoke deflectors (aka Elephant Ears), some railroads found them successful in lifting smoke up and over the cab when running. Some rail fans like them, some don't. Either way, if you don't care for them then go find other engines that don't have them.
Always good to see some Mohawk action
I've bought the DVD, we'll worth the money. Consider to buy the other New York Central DVD too.
It's so sad of the Hudsons where scrapped and greetings from México 🇲🇽
Another amazing video by Herron Rail. I wish I had more money - I would love to have them all!
For the tender looks like the niagara eats more coal than a big boy.
As a matter of fact, it did have a larger coal bunker. The Niagaras had a coal capacity of 46 tons, whereas the Big Boys had a coal capacity of 28 tons
I don’t know how the Niagara’s fuel consumption compares other than it had to be less than the big boys. But I can explain the increased capacity. The New York central used track pans to refill water on the fly. This allowed them to shrink the water tank and increase coal capacity. As a result on some routes only a single refueling stop was required.
I Love Hudsons,
Darn you, Alfred perlman l. For getting rid of these steam engines
A Hudson departing Toledo!? That sold it i need to get this program!
Niagara ; ultimate steam locomotive . Nothing comes close !!
THE NIAGRA HAS AN AIR HORN!
Yes, they were equipped with air horns.
@@herronrailvideo1169 I Like Hudson 5406 that's my favorite Hudson .
They also had Hancock 3 chimes, correct?
I always thought those Niagaras looked weird and heavy and slow but I actually really appreciate them now just by seeing how fast they could go in this video. I'm not sure if this is very fast, but at 2:32, it looks like that Niagara was going *fast* I guess this is more sighns telling us to not judge a book by it's cover.
100+ mph was not unheard of if they were making up time. I think they were designed to handle the stresses of 125 mph. That's what my Dad said and he was qualified and ran steam on the NYC. He ran mostly Mohawks though.
@@jamesrader9893 My Hudson is Number 5406.
I just think without the (i forgot the name, it's the plate on the side of the boiler) looks weird
0:40 RDC on the tail! Is that Mr. Harmon's voice?
Yes, he has narrated several of our productions.
Steam Diesel and Electric on The New York Central Railroad.
Did the Niagaras have horns?
Yes
@@herronrailvideo1169 like horns, not whistles? Ik they had whistles to
@@ilikeguitars3511 both
I didn't know the NYC 4-8-4 Niagaras were equipped with air horns when it comes to pulling passenger trains.
Yes, they had air horns and whistles.
They used the horns more than the whistles.
Yes. When built, they had steam whistles only, installed next to the stack. But many engineers complained that they could not hear the whistles when the train was going at high speed.
Yes i think the use air horns to people to now that comes a express passener train like the sorthern pacific 4-8-4(the 4449 like an example of those).
Any footage from the central Indiana region?
Not in this one but Volume 1 has footage around Indianapolis and the IN locations. Also, Steam & Diesel on the NYC Volume 1 has great footage out of Lafayette to Kankakee, IL and from Cincinnati to Greensburg, IN.
I keep hoping you will come out w/a Don Krofta Toledo Div West DVD (which is my area) like you did for the East end of the Toledo Div. But I bet Don didn't film much, or any, that far west.
We have produced most all of Don Krofta's film.
@@herronrailvideo1169 Thanks for the reply. I figured as much.
Is that Danmy Harmon doing the narration?
Yes
2:31
It looks to be maybe an actual recording of the Niagara horn.
It is. The film and recording are both by John M. Prophet, II.
i know no nyc hudsons were saved but i know one from the southern was saved and a canadian one was saved
The Southern had some magnificent steam locomotives, but it did not have any Hudsons. In fact, it did not have any locomotives wth a 4-wheel trailing truck.
@@Toledo1940 The OP commenter was probably thinking of 1401, which is a 4-6-2. She’s still a beauty however
Can we all just agree that 2 steam engines look terrible? Union Pacific and New York Central both look like Japanese engines.
They look pretty awesome to me.
idk what engine you're talking about
oh no, i think he meant all the engines of these railroads
If you are referring to the smoke deflectors (aka Elephant Ears), some railroads found them successful in lifting smoke up and over the cab when running. Some rail fans like them, some don't. Either way, if you don't care for them then go find other engines that don't have them.