How I Fake Kodak Aerochrome
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Damn your lab must be confused as all hell when they see aerochrome photos on the freshly developed ektachrome 💀
genuinely cannot believe im seeing a grainydays video on digital photography
If you're going digital, might as well utilize Kolari Vision's IR chrome filter. I'm happy with the results straight out of camera.
I was about to make the same comment. Much easier process and no need to use PS
Much different looks between different filters, I have ir chrome, 560 an 720
I have been testing it on a very low tier digital camera and am very impressed, as well! I bought the full five-layer filter to start but just ordered the “lite” version - seems to be a little less heavy-handed. Might result in a little additional processing but it really is amazing how close you can get in camera.
You get the red one?
Do you still need the full spectrum conversion or do the filters work on a standard camera?
It's my full spectrum z6's time to shine.
Jason: Here's a cheap way to emulate aerochrome
Ektachrome e100: are you sure about that
Your sons legs look as strong as a tripod!
Not the studio tripod but that cheap one you got off ebay back in the 90's. We are both amazed that those legs held up for 10 years.
After you rip out the Infrared and IR cut filter you have a great starter camera for astrophotography. Since now your camera will be able to capture most of the bandwidths that nebulas emit that would have otherwise been blocked.
I’ve been using the Kolari Vision IR chrome filter on my full spectrum camera to good effect.
Same here, works great
I came here to say this. Much easier.
Same, dig the look you can get it it for sure.
I was going to suggest this filter too
What a timing, my full-spectrum converted camera has been lying on eBay for a while, hopefully this video can make it sell...
Lol Ive been meaning to sell mine but now don't want to after this video
Maybe you can get Harmon to come out with an Aerochrome alternative?
I find the easiest way to shoot natively in camera without the need for filters, is simply to set the white balance to the sky. The camera then adjusts accordingly and foliage turns out reddy/pink. Depending on what I’m after I also use 680 and 720nm filters. Of course, adjust in post but a heck of a lot simpler process!
Buy a Foveon camera (SD1 ideally) and a Triple Bandpass Filter (Green, Red, IR), then you'll get Aerochrome straight out of camera --- without the postprocessing... includes all color changes (red to yellow etc). Cheers...
where can you buy one of those filters?
100% agree, but I would go for an SD14 or SD15 to maintain a filmic look. The SD1 is way too crisp.
Search Midopt Triple Bandpass@@eatenbyopium
Have you tried the TB on those cams?@@the_real_iceman
I've been keeping up with your aerochrome blog and have been using your instructions for the orange/green filter. I agree that the IR channel subtraction doesn't seem to be work without ending up with weird results vs just doing a straight channel swap.
Can't really justify buying a foveon so I'll be sticking with my d5200.
I use an Aerochrome filter from Kolari and I don’t half to do a lot of editing on a photo.
I've owned two different infrared converted DSLR's over the years. I also shot my fair share of IR film before the digital days. What I found out about IR in general was that the only people interested in IR are other photographers interested in IR. Non photographers are just confused by it.
Richard Mosse actually was awarded the Pullitzer Price for his work in the Congo. Basically the greatest Price you could get as a Photographer
I wondered if you would eventually go digital with these shots (or if you had gone digital in the closet). I picked up a Fujifilm X-T100 with the full spectrum conversion from a vendor on eBay who regularly sells converted cameras. After getting a filter and learning how to white balance with a grey card, I've found it really easy to get fake areochrome images. I went down this rabbit hole all because of this channel. Thanks...I think.
What a nutty process, glad someone had the patience to show us how it's done.
bro is a closet metalhead. drop a playlist guy 😎 those clips kinda sounded like rivers of nihil?
ps loving the fred durst style inspiration.
psx2 baxter 😍
I’ve been trichroming Rollei IR for about a year now and it’s awesome to see your process. I saw Willem Verbeeck’s video on transferring digital images to film and tried it with my final trichromed images, so it’s cool to see some overlapping ideas between our processes. This gives me some inspiration to keep developing my method :D
I have also been playing with trichroming Rollei IR. Bought a 100’ roll of Rollei IR.
I have a converted D70, and a Kolari Blue filter.
Next project is going to be using an orange filter with Lomo Purple.
@@67ratsrule I’ve never seen anyone use an orange filter with lomo purple, how cool. How does it change the final images?
I absolutely love your video processing. The filmic color and bloom really compliment the aspect ratio.
I fake aerochrome with trichrome and swapping the red for infrared, green for red and blue for green. Hoya R72 filter. It’s a lot of work and requires a still scene but it looks a lot more like aerochrome than out of the camera digital aerochrome fakes. (Responding to comments not the video, your images look great)
Please @kodak bring back aereochrome and save this man life
Saving lives one picture at a time, keep it up! This is some awesome stuff and wonderful photos!
was great meeting you in hamburg keep doing what you do my legend
I didn’t think I’d see the day when you stopped chugging FHMD.. at least until the film was brought back. Now I can say I’ve seen it all.
fuck yeah jason, way more process and technical videos PLEASE
Love the aspect ration btw.... makes me tingle in places that should not be tingling as a hassy shooter
Imagine the guy at the lab seeing the insane colors on the E100 he just developed.
Cheeky one staying with film, but I use a Bronica SQ-Ai with two backs - one with Rollei IR and the other with FP4, shooting the former with a R72 filter and the latter with a green filter. Combining these in Photoshop with the green-filtered shots set to the green and blue channels and IR set to red, seems to work 90% of the time.
Don’t think we forgot about Ektachrome Christmas 6
Finally you listened, got tired of commenting on every aerochrome video you made.
Easiest, shoot whatever, import into Lightroom, Presets -> RNI 5 Infrared Pro -> choose your flavor of Aerochrome.
When people write in the comments that they can’t get it to work and they’re wondering what they did wrong, seeking your wisdom and tutelage to help them from the hell they’ve created for themselves…
You should just reply with “Errorchrome”.
They may hate you but they’ll damn well respect the hell out of you.
Cool stuff. I always just removed the visible light for some IR only shots, but I have to try this at some point.
I do very much appreciate what I assume was a purposeful balance of hat to background color - possibly even a tip toward the red of IR.
Welcome back
Baxter's yoked. And excellent description of the process. Very cool.
Wow this is so much work. I'm impressed by how many fake aerochrome you've posted so far. Quite a time consuming process.
Series of Sigma SD cameras equipped with removable IR filter - no need for conversion.
…and they even have film like sensors!
Excellent post. Thank you.
"A difference that makes no difference IS no difference." Something I heard 50 years ago that still rings true. You have a complex process to get to a result that is not reasonable to achieve the straightforward way. The images have been worth it.
Baxter looking stout!!! You’re probably already aware and/or been told a hundred times by now, but digital-to-film capture devices - basically a black box with a screen at one end and a lens mount for a camera at the other - existed for quite some time. One of my first jobs in the industry back in the mid-90s was shooting digitally generated presentation slides - before Powerpoint existed and VGA projectors were widely available - to actual slide film and running it down to the local lab for processing and mounting. Back when labs could turn around E6 in two hours 😂 Whether or not one of these things would produce better results than an iPad and MF macro lens, I don’t know, but if you came across one that still worked and was cheap enough, it could be worth a go.
I will be using that hashtag now, thank you for that little droplet of wisdom
thanks for the kelvin tip. going warm is much better. using the kolarivision ir filter
"You should also definitely shoot RAW." - Jason Kummerfeldt (grainydays) December 2023
I got my d800 converted to full spectrum love it. Shoots pretty good video too
6:59 I lost my job, it's really the lowest point of my life. But happy new year Jason
I must say i love your stuff
wake up babe new grainy days just dropped
One thing to note about the Hotspotting issue, I am fairly certain it's because IR light is at longer wave lengths than normal light and because the lens is only designed to focus normal light, sometimes it can mess up IR light. I'm an idiot though and I'm just rehashing a memory of an article I read at some point in the past so that this info with a grain(y(days)) of salt
THIS MAN IS A GENIUS
those metal titles are absoulte vibes on a thursday afternoon. 👌
It's that time of the year again
Love it, thank you for sharing the recipe
Accurate focus with shallow depth of field is def easier on digital when shooting IR
If you're using a full-spectrum camera, you could pick up a Kolari Chrome filter. Way less processing
Baxter’s legs were looking very powerful there. Looked tall in that photo
and so, at last, the flaming hot Mountain Dew arc of Grainydays comes to an end. Can't wait to see what 2024 brings.
Would love a tutorial on how you composite in Nuke and AE if you ever get a chance one day. Havent used Nuke since college but would love to get back into it and AE I use regularly.
This would be a great job for a film recorder. Look into them. They connect to your desktop via SCSI though.
Good thing I’ve had a bunch of SCSI ISA cards in a box in the attic since about 1998.
@@PrebleStreetRecords the big question is .. 4K quality good enough for a 35mm frame? It was in 1998. Management Graphics Sapphire model 700376 film recorder.
Ok big Jase, let's go!
For all the people recommending the kolari fitler, you can mimic THAT filter with a blue filter and a weak uv/ir cut filter (hot mirror) with a custom white balance set using a white surface in the sunlight - might save you a couple hundred $$
s/o to the one guy theorising exactly this in one of the past videos. You wizard
I read that one as well, it was under the hawaian vacation video
I got my old Canon 80d converted to 550nm and then swap the red/blue then blue/green in photoshop because of an article I saw on Kolari a few years back. It works pretty well but wondering if going full spectrum would have been better.
The extra step of going back onto film is cool though, good stuff.
Going with yellow filter gets him down to around 450nm range. He goes old school with yellow filter but you can get infrared specific yellow filters that are 450 480 nm. You can get same results with 550nm filter the editing process is just slightly different. If you shot yellow, 480 and 550.and edited them all you could end up with same results even though the starting images would look a bit different. 480 looks more like Lomchrome purple before editing.
Can we expect an Ektachrome Christmas this year?
Kind of really long process to get why you want but !! Who i am to judge you !!! Must have a lot of time to spare !!! I just go with my own preset and it’s look exactly the same !!! Great to see your video man !
Finally a use for my old Nikon D90. but who does that kind of conversion and what does it cost?
You can do it yourself if you have JIS screws and patience
the only downside is sensor aligning afterwards, which isnt too bad if you understand the fact the image is inverted relative to the screws and have a printer to print off a lens test sheet
all that photoshop stuff could be recreated as a LUT. The Flickr algorithm was made before LUTs became popular in the digital photography world, so that kinda makes sense why it's like that.
With a LUT you could use it on video right?
@@braxtonrussell998 potentially, yes. Could be interesting, but would definitely need some major fine tweaking even with a LUT in photos, and for videos it would be pretty difficult to color grade.
What about "Lomo Lomochrom Petillant" ?
I still haven't shot with it, but i do plan to try it out.
Maybe a LR preset can push the colors to get close to the original
Jason always hits the nail on the head of my mental state, at the time of watching his videos🎣
Hey I think I was able to write some Python code that does what the original VBA code is doing. Is there any chance I can get a .RAW test image to test this out?
The Steve Yedlin quote really got me.
Well, that's dedication.
You can buy pre-bulk rolled Ektachrome for cheaper. Around $18. I was thinking about bulk rolling it my self
What do you think about the difference look of C4 1 versus E6 process
I think you'd improve the process if you - shoot actual aerochrome, develop, scan, adjust to normal colours, reshoot from the ipad with the infrared a7, do all the stuff from the video, reshoot the scanned e100 shots with a Rollei Infrared with r/g/b filters and assemble again in PS. That's Part 1
Jason, have you tried any presets to achieve the aerochrome look? I use a preset that basically gets photos looking a lot like aerochrome and only requires a few minor adjustments in Lightroom. I understand that sometimes it’s more fun to do it the laborious way, but the preset is definitely a simple option if one wants the aerochrome aesthetic.
Hey there, would you be willing to share your preset? That'd be awesome.
@@mrcrtnd I use RNI labs aerochrome 16. They have several different versions of it.
@@mezayrapetyan131 thanks
Babe wake up. The newest grainy boy vid just dropped.
Also first.
bro beat me by 2 seconds
@@prophet1193 14th coke zero just hit the blood brain barrier and I was so it. GGWP
You are legendary
More death metal transitions please 🙏🏼
Banger video but I’m not gonna lie the whole time I was thinking “thank god I don’t like infared that much so I’ll never have to do this”
To be honest, I’m here for the Baxter content! Haha.
Great video. Kodak bringing back Aerochrome, however unlikely at this point, might save you an aneurysm, and appease the rest of us, but looks like I might need to give this a try!
Awesome work as always.
The Lightroom SDK looks pretty simple, even if it is in (gag) Lua.
I might be able to knock out a simple plugin that runs this process.
CRANKIN THE HOG MENTIONED
Looking forward to An Aerochrome Christmas 1 btw
okay i have 2 questions, didn't really get why you shot with film on your digital images then scan again, what was the purpose of that? maybe just didn't hear you say something about it. And also isn't lomochrome purple a kind of similar film? I have never shot it so not really sure but feels like it should be at least a bit similar.
Baxxxxterrrrrr❤
You lost me at hello 😂
This had more steps than AA, so i'm absolutely shocked that you've had the patience to explain it. So, Aerochrome for Christmas special ?
I have a few rolls of 120 Aerochrome in the freezer. I'm just waiting for the going price to get to the point it can fund my retirement.
I would shoot a color photo with an IR/UV cut filter with auto white balance an one with an IR Filter + UV filter. Then I develop the color picture normally a n the IR one to maximum Kontrast. In Photoshop I would delete the blue channel of the color photo and open the IR photo. In the next step is to shift all information in the blue channel of the IR Photo and pull the blue channel to color photo. Than I shift the red into the green, the green into the blue and the blue, our IR Channel into the red channel. After that I would correct the contrast.
hey Jason, there is no Christmas Ektachrome this year?
I was wondering the same thing 😢
maybe it's later, the last ektachrome christmas was posted in january
agree@@GTXTi-db5xu
Genuine question.. RNI film aerochrome is indistinguishable for me. Why not just use this?
i've been making aerochrome-style images by blocking red light, so the red channel becomes infrared sensitive and the blue-green light from the sky can be corrected in post, the colors aren't super accurate though
A deep cyan filter is a red blocking filter. Isn't it?
You can also make this whole process in Photoshop a custom action.
The circle is 35mm vs 645 but the lens is 67? Why the scheme is not 67, too?
14:11 Let's not forget that Velvia is $30 a roll.
LOL!!!! OMG enough with the aerochrome!
Jason I love you
Is this secretly the 2023 ektachrome christmas episode? XD
I need to get that pentax 6x7 to nikon f mount, what is it?