I was wrong about the G87 M2...
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Hated this car when i first saw the leaks. Went in person april 2023 to my local bmw dealer and placed an order right on the spot. Took delivery of my manual 24' zandavoort blue November 2023. Since then i've taken it to the track and it's a beast and it's my daily driver. Fits my 2 year old in the back seat no issue. Fits my golf clubs and stroller in the trunk. Ultimate driving machine for sure. Owned a 2020 Camaro 2ss and hated that it couldnt fit my golf clubs in the trunk, i do miss that v8 sound tho. I also own a C5 Corvette Z06 which is my dedicated track car and honestly might sell it. The m2 works as a daily and my track car.
I ignored all the hate on the internet because i remember all the hate the E92 received back when it first released and how everyone changed their minds. E92 was my dream car and it's why i went for the G87. Reminds me of it minus the v8.
Btw don't sleep on the zandavoort blue. Literally yesterday a guy chanced me down to tell me how much he loves my m2 color. First day at my local track, everyone ran up to my car to tell me how much they love the color after seeing it in person.
My Toronto Red manual will be here at the end of June
@@davidtennien39 when did u order it or placed the order for it?
Just got mine, super upset the 2025 has more horsepower haha
I like how original and unique the design is. Its like a mini muscle car. Personally the rear end tail lights are the coolest part.
For me, I really like the front end but the rear is very odd. Interesting!
I love the rear taillights. The part he points out on the rear bumper is what kills me.
Haha it’s the opposite for me; I can’t stand the head and tail lights, they just don’t have that BMW look to me. The G80 and G82 designs seem more like an evolution of the F generation but the G87 seems more like a revolution.
@@dashuntas.m4045 yea ur def right. It's a complete redisgn in all areas. From someone that never liked the m2 because it looked like a smushed together baby m3, I actually like this new one alot more with subtle aftermarket parts added. R44 latest vid of their m2 is absolutely gorgeous. Bmw made the m2 it's own unique car now which is how it should be.
@@G82Wattsits unique in its own way but it pays homage to older model m3’s more than the modern m3 imo
Yeah you definitely have to see it in person, It actually looks good
Most modern cars get bigger and heavier with new a new generation, that’s what happens. These things rip. S58 power is insane, and the handling is amazing.
Best car I ever owned! Bought it without seeing it in person. It’s white with a sunroof, which is perfect for So Cal. Daily driving it for a year now. Like you said, extremely comfortable car, but once everything in sports and sports plus mode, it becomes a beast. Its handling is incredible, and once in MDM mode, it will become a tail happy fun little car. Thank you M division!
Black G87's look sickkkk
Only thing stopping me from the g87 is the head lights, if there is an aftermarket halo/ angel eye design i’ll buy it tonight
@@TehNiCoLaSeventually soon enough once people will get over it’s “ugly” design, then so much more aftermarket will come.
@@TehNiCoLaS for me its the tailights. i saw someone edit the g87 with more tailight, like a small extension going more into the trunk making them overall longer horizontally with a shape sorta like the f82 m4 tailights. looked much better and no longer like an FRS.
the new GR86 sorta does the same thing but they extended the tailights the other direction - on the outer edge into the rear quarter. so its a sideways teardrop but going the other direction, and it looks MUCH better than the original FRS. the small round tailights just dont look good
Do it! Buy One! Would love to see you build one and go nuts and maybe a track focus vs HP monster or vice versa. I am not a fan of the buckets to live with on the daily or long drives. Heavy car though and that has been my draw back for picking one up. Also color matching that lip is the play!
The guys in car community just get wet by creating a car that has a lot of horse power but never use it, just like saying how fast it goes 😂
Selling my 600hp RS3 for a manual G87 M2. From the second they released I wanted one in Toronto red with a carbon roof - it is for sure the best combo
I rented one of these on turo for the weekend it was optioned with a zf8 and i can tell you right off the bat its way more peppy then the manual, especially with the shorter gearing it just rips
I bought my 240 in Mineral White. I absolutely love the exterior color. The metallic gives it a pearl matte look in late day sunlight. If I move to the M2 in a few years will most likely go with the Red, but hopefully by then they will add the individual color option to the cars built in Mexico.
Considering going for one of these..
What's the steering wheel like and interior quality like?
I currently have a 2023 Surpra
As usually I think you’ve just sold me on another car😂. Thanks dude, great review
Vorstiener really sold me on this car with their kit and in red 👌🏼 I like the updated screen, I feel like bmw made the pre-Lci G8x look outdated fast when they made the change
I've just gone from an E46 m3 to F83 M4 to one of these in the space of weeks and can confirm, it doesn't feel as big as the measurements suggest. Its very nice. My F83 is a nicer interior clad in leather and better plastics, but its a 55k miles 8 year old car. The loaner I have from BMW is brand new and tight and insanely easy to drive.
They have made the ZF behave like the DCT too. The selection process is more DCT than ZF and it doesn't creep like a DCT.
Light colors really show the angles. Need more unique options though everyone has black or red
Favorite CZcamsr just enjoy anything this man posts
I like everything about it apart from the front end, if aftermarket can provide a decent solution I’d be tempted
Black. I agree with your opinion about the rear boxy bumper ...
I really like the car though. The design is pretty daring. Black for sure.
Damn bro you drive all the way down to Waxhaw??
I knew everyone would start liking these cars. I loved them from the moment they came out fr
I had a 2020 X3M and I took it on tail of the dragon and it did amazing so I'm not afraid if the weight of this car especially if they come out with and all-wheel drive competition version
I was the same way and hated the rear end. Now having seen a few with a more aggressive ducktail spoiler or even Adro's swan neck GT style wing, it helps balance out the chunky lower portion of the rear IMO
When these cars are modded like at 3:04 on, I do start to see some resemblance to like an E30 DTM car or the old 3.0 CSL race car. Very aggressive for such a small car.
I know it still looks like a Lego, but I may purchase one. I'll 100% wait for the G87 M2 Comp or M2CS version though. Might as well since they're coming out in the next year.
A great review! I disagree on the gripes with manual though. The delay is there, but you just can’t replace the feeling of connection you have with the car. Paddles don’t do it for me, and the whole allure of the M2 is that it’s one of the last manual M cars they will make. There is just something special about that, and the small shifting delay is not enough to overshadow that.
This car is a monster. Incredibly quick, aggressive, loud and looking like 1M $ (esp. in black). True M machine with no compromises
Dravit would've been such a dope color on the G87! I'm the same way about the rear. It's like dating a cute girl with a very disproportionate rear end. Kind of puts me in limp mode 😂
The adro stuff don't look like a fix to me. Stock bumpers w aftermarket grills are the way to go on the G8x's
I love the rear end
i thought people were ganna give me hate for my m2 but received only thumbs up. the m2 pulls so hard its so fun. best car for the price.
Best colour 👍 (from Toronto Red owner 😄).
i feel like it’s cool but they look bloated to me like how the mx-5 got chubby in 2006. u may have said it but do u like it better than the g80/g82?
I actually want one next. Think a dual M2 garage would be dope! And ya know s58 👁️👁️
My brother and I went to BMW Track days at Road America and he loved that car. Did auto cross with it and he set the fastest lap in it. He said he enjoyed that car more than the G8X that it’s more engaging and fun to drive.
You guys by chance drive the g42 m240i as well? If so, can you compare
I love the zf but you have to try the s58 with the cvd delete and upgraded clutch . Completely changes the car
It's not as bad as many thought initially but still... Even if we all agree that look is subjective, weight is not. Also I hate the fact that BMW killed DCT for the sake of ZF. This really says a lot about current goals of the brand. Long live the E82!
Rear > front all day! Paint match is a must
Hey bro, I'm from Long Island. If you wanted to do a video on my car for comparison, I think that would be pretty cool. You just did the 740whp M3, I have a 780whp M2. If you're interested, let me know!
Currently I'm driving a 2024 Supra MT and I must say that the M2 is growing on me too. I have to test drive one soon. The only thing I really disilke are the tail lights. Wider tail lights in the style of the M3 would fit much better. The LCI will be in 2026 and in 08/24 there will be a small +20 hp bump and new color options (with one of my fav colors Grigo Telesto grey, yeah). Maybe I'll trade in my Supra and order one in 2028 (2029 will be end of production for G87) in grigo telesto if I really like it. But not sure If it will be a MT or Auto.
I hear you. I have a 23 Manual Supra in red, that I love. But drove a Manual M2 and it just hit the sweet spot. Maybe because I owned a 2014 Manual 2 Series for 9 years before the Supra. Been seriously thinking of selling the Sup and ordering a 2025 M2. It will be either exact spec as the red one in the video, or black with the dual tone wheels. I love many cars that people hate, and this M2 wins me even over. I wish I could keep the Supra and get the M2 as well 😅
For me I bought the 2024 M2 in Brooklyn gray with the standard wheels that have the chrome outlines. The totally black wheels just disappear under the car. Carbon fiber roof a must. I got all options except the carbon seats. The carbon seats just are too tough to get in and out and the padding is too thin. I weigh 155 lbs and my butt and back would hurt in those seats after 50 miles. I went with the auto since I find 8 gears are better than 6. The manual transmission is a 20 year old product and can barely handle the torque. Next year BMW is kicking up the power 20 hp and the torque up to 475 or so, but if you get a manual, the torque stays at 406…because the manual can’t handle the extra torque. The auto in the fastest shift mode shifts at 150 milliseconds which is close to dual clutch territory. And it’s a no cost option. I always prefer a lighter color since it doesn’t show the dirt as bad as the red or black. The grey also has a hint of blue in the sun, which I like. The auto is faster (11.7 @ 122 mph vs 12.2 @ 118) and 0-60 (3.5 vs 3.9) courtesy of Car and Driver Magazine.
I had an e92 M3 for 11yrs. Skipped the F series. Had to have the mighty S58. I've had my G87 M2 for 1 year and 1 month. Spacers and lowering springs the thing looks sick and is seriously fast. The manual in the G87 is a little better than the my manual E92 M3. The throw is a little shorter. I was skeptical at 1st but when you see it the flesh its mean and purposeful.
I love the look of the buckets but I don't think they're worth the $.
Given the opportunity, would you take a new E92 or G87?
I just love this car...
That baby blue is so dope
Love these reviews
I'm excited to see the new frozen portimao blue
The rear end is like the prelci e90m3 tailights. They looked terrible but thankfully was fixed with lci update. Bmw should use this opportunity to do just that for rear ends in m2s and front end bumper grilles of m3/m4s.
Also Wish they kept that iconic fender grilles that M models all have
I don't understand in which context you compare E92 pre LCI taillight with the G87, they are not even close! Personally I prefer the pre LCI as they resemble G80 taillights more imho. Not a lot of individual LEDs in a dotted pattern, that's really ugly and there's a reason manufacturers has moved on from those...
@@TheRealDr.Mabuse bud did you even read my comment?
The E90m3 is in no way shape or form the same as a e92 tailight so i have no idea what you yourself are refering to as i never wrote anything nor mentioned anything about the e92 tailight.
People that know the e90 chassis know the precli tailight shape was really ugly and the lci version that had the shape redone on the trunk portion had improved the look 10 fold.
@@vlad23i Sorry, my bad. I read it as E92.
@@TheRealDr.Mabuse no worries, e92 tailights were the perfecr shape for the car, no question there 👍
I had the auto A90 Supra and now manual G87. I'd take the manual in the M2 over the auto all day. Auto gets boring on the street.
I don’t hate the car: with mods it looks great overall, the S58 is an amazing engine, the interior is very nice. But the rear end, the big screen you stare at while driving, how heavy it is for a M2, and most of all how much these will depreciate in the next 5 years. All these things are a really big turn off 🤷♂️
I see you pulled out nice and easy at 6:39 when you saw that police truck.
They should have released it in the m240 purple. That is the best color BMW makes right now and it’s a shame it’s on on the M2
Agreed. That midnight metallic purple is going to be wanted by the car community on other makes once it gains more traction. Similar effect to the midnight jade I hope.
You trippen frozen gray the best color on the m2
Fan of Alpine Weiss. These are slightly faster than a Dark Horse. It think for the money it’s a bargain.
As an OG M2 owner it sucks that the G87 exterior takes so much away from how capable this car can really be…the cost of modifying it doesn’t make it easier either, it would be nice to see updates to the bumpers and more companies offering affordable aero as the years go on. We would consider it for sure 👍🏾
We need a review of an auto!
Is that 6spd the same one found in Supra?
No. I believe the Supra and Z4 BMW share the same manual transmission. There may be a couple of slight differences though.
I sold my auto Supra and I’m shopping for a manual. How does this pair up? Manual vs manual
I have a 2020 Supra and I drove the M2. I went and found an M2. The M2 feels and rides better on the highway and city. However the Supra to me is way more fun for spirited driving in the city. The M2 for me makes the Supra feel outdated interior wise. I still have both and swap between them during the week.
Best thing BMW has produced in years. Love it.
Its a shame about the manual, you arent the only person to have said that. Lots of journalist said the same about the manual in the G80 m3/m4 too
I feel the same about the rear end of the two series
I drove one 3 weeks ago and the front end is ugly. The interior is nice and it’s fast but felt rather boring to drive and felt heavy!
More colors and power bump for 2025, I'm thinking about it
This car needs the purple from the m240
I actually like the rear end more than the front end of the M2
Interesting, I think the front is beautiful and so aggressive but the rear just ruins it for me 😂
@@musawaseem8417I have a g87 and it looks much better with a rear spoiler, the trunk looks naked otherwise
I only like this car with the Vorsteiner Kit on it
After seeing the M2 with silver wheels, I have to say that people don't realize its looks are seriously hurt by black wheels and certain colors.
A face and ass only a mother could love......"the car designed for $20K to make it look right". :-D Honestly, i still cant choke this down, obviously, it drives amazingly well but it's not one of those cars where i would turn back to look at it after i parked. I think the majority of BMW superfans are backing off of the hard position when this launched, simple because of the performance. Similar to the current M3/M4.
100%
100% my next car 🙏
Carbon 🪣's? No heat, no a/c and no thank you ‼️💯👍🏿
Frozen Grey and Frozen Portimao Blue > all colors for this car imo
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Just like everyone I hated the G87 M2 when it first came out. Picked up my BSM G87 6MT February of this year. It really is a car that slowly grows to you.. been enjoying mine very much.
Lego car lol F8x > G8x's
I think of the G80, G82 and G87; The 87 might be my perfect favorite. Definitely seems like it would be the most raw and exciting of the bunch, and likely the lightest
Also, The manuals come with delay valves that I would imagine really hinder the performance and feel. My VW had one and my god was it horrendous before
You would think, but they all weigh the same
@@NA-gm5sxit’s the same situation as the f8x where the m2 is only slightly lighter. The g87 mechanically is exactly the same as the RWD g82 except for a slightly shorter wheelbase and different bodykit, for $20k cheaper
Red for sure!
Red is badass
The problem is simple: the last generation was bourgeois, the full screen looks bad too
If you want the automatic, wait for the x drive, it will be a long wait. Or buy this now, then trade up to the xdrive when released.
Xdrive will not happen in the M2.
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It will in 2026
I think the launch color was definitely not helping it
Dead wrong 💀😏
The hood has a gap between the headlight housing I can't stop seeing. Makes the M2 look cheap.
WTF-amazing car!
Black sapphire metallic
Black looks best, it hides the hideous rear. The rear ruins it for me. I saw that light blue and from behind I hate it. In person doesn’t matter . It looks terrible in powder blue .
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I've been saying red does the g87 a HUGE favor.. looks really good
I really like G87, much more than G80/82
The square vents in the front, the area below the taillights you pointed out below are awful parts of the exterior. The car absolutely needs a body kit to fix those because they ruin the design. I like the taillights. The interior I really can’t stand the 2 foot wide iPad on the dash and not a fan of then M stripes in the door card. I’d like to see some better colors offered, like greens and blues. The car COULD look great with some adjustments. Haven’t driven one but I hear they’re heavy as hell.
Speed doesn't make up
For looks lol y'all cope hard😂
IF THIS CAR CAN GROW ON YOU/US....ANY CAR CAN! LOL
I think I would have to go individual.
There is no individual for the g87 (yet) unfortunately
why are bmw fans hating on this? around the same size as an e46, MANUAL TRANMISSION, no big grille, flared fenders like the e30, big horsepower, sure it is heavier than the last m2 but it is so much faster
I was one of those BMW fans that hated this car so much. Then I bought one.. 🤣
@@patc8653you cant be behind an M car and not have a smile on your face. They are so much joy. M motorsport at BMW really know what they’re doing.
I hate the screen lol feels like too much , I like the raw look specially in a track inspired car idk
It’s a shame to drive that car only 1,300 miles after only 1 year
I've said this before, but the biggest issue with is this car is that the F87 M2 was created, The thick hips and the curvy lines mixed with the "Traditional" BMW look makes that car beautiful. Naturally when this car came out looking different you had something to compare them. When this car was released I tried not to compare to the F87 and when I did it looked pretty good. I don't mind the rear end, the font end looks good, but can look strange and un-proportional from certain angles and pictures. The stance from factory could be better. The interior isn't bad, I do wish the screen had more of an integration into the dash to make it look like it had some thought put behind the design. Also if BMW does what Ford is doing with the mustang and release different gauges from other model years to make it look like an older style you could choose from would be pretty cool as well.
Just finished the Vid if Nick wants to sell the car in the near future I would be very much interested in taking it off his hands. Seriously get me in contact if he is ever interested
If you never have to look at the front its a great car lol I want this platform but the front is so ugly. Get rid of the squared off stuff pig nose grill that is too high up on the profile.
From an M8 owner, I love the M2...its one of the best looking beamers to date. How can you not like the rear and front end. Weird.